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Post Apoc Character #1
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About this creation

Well, I'm back!...with a minifig? Can the underachieving get any worse? Will you survive this latest addition to my collection? And if I don't stop asking so many questions, will I survive as well?



Being a die-hard underachiever, you might have noticed that all I did for the head of the minifig was turn around the 2x2 dish on his head and the face piece. After that, I stuck it on a minifig body and called it a creation. Aren't I awesome?



Well, I will admit that the black rebreather is new. Don't you feel so much better now?



I also added a pirates hook to the back. The joint is pretty schweet if you ask me, (I'm tellin' because I know you wouldn't) and because of it, you can bow down and kiss my feet at this time. Or take a photo with me, I'm getting desperate.



I bilt teh kustum gun1!1 lol!11



I bilt teh kustum gun1!1 lol!11
0_o

And lastly, as promised to Phong, here's a pic me. Knock yourself out, kiddo.


Lol!11 I iz teh monkee man climing up ur wals!!1





Comments

 I like it 
  May 16, 2012
I like how you managed the head.
 I like it 
  January 24, 2011
why does he look like a bird? sorta weird, but don't get me wrong, it's cool!
 I like it 
  December 3, 2009
lolz monkey man XD
  November 17, 2009
is this supposed to be something from fallout 3 it had better not be!!!!!
 I made it 
  October 25, 2009
Quoting Birdboy ! LOL DRAMA OVER TOYS
LOL I CAN TYPE IN CAPS AND NOT USE PUNCTUATION TOO
  October 24, 2009
LOL DRAMA OVER TOYS
 I like it 
  October 17, 2009
Hey awesome man, but Did your mum drop you on your head when you were young, cause you seem to want to fight everyone, please don't fight me :( . lol. If you think getting dropped is offensive, then you must have got dropped! >_<
 I made it 
  May 9, 2009
Quoting teh teabagger you want to know what I want to point out? I'm tired of seeing pics of people's awsum clone troops?
Heh. You fail at staying on-topic.
Quoting teh teabaggery don't u try bilding something original? like yur mum
NO U. What I find hilarious is that your shoddy mech is your best creation.
 I like it 
  May 9, 2009
because it's true? lol.
 I like it 
  May 9, 2009
Hey, "teh teabagger" is actually Areetsa C. He made another account just to post insults on other people's MOCs. Don't listen to him.
 I like it 
  April 28, 2009
Yo Will! Where are you man?! haven't heard anything from you for the longest time.
Will Thomas
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Alexander Dojlido
  March 19, 2009
That was one long arugument lol! Nice Minifig
 I like it 
  February 26, 2009
Que bonito! Nice!
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  February 17, 2009
hey man sup will??? i got a new mecha... tell me if i did bad or good... here it is: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/99597
 I made it 
  February 17, 2009
Quoting Lt. Colonel Ghostman Cool, still arguing for the last 4 months just because Phong said something imature, which isn't true. Phong had a right to defend himself from Jeff Norton's rude comments.
Actually, I cut it off about 2 weeks ago. I do realize that he has the right to defend himself [which I still don't advise], but calling someone "homo" goes a step beyond, in my opinion.
 I like it 
  February 17, 2009
Cool, still arguing for the last 4 months just because Phong said something imature, which isn't true. Phong had a right to defend himself from Jeff Norton's rude comments.
 I like it 
  February 12, 2009
ok guys, these comments r getting kinda annoying, and phong, WAY too many words! so try to make ur comments easier to read by making them SHORTER, cuz i dont know if anyone has time to read all ur 500 word comments... lol
  February 10, 2009
Wow. Pretty deep stuff for a Lego website.
  February 10, 2009
I made this as brief as possible. This is why I said LOL. Irony! None of your counters gave you the right to say, "Gotcha!" You actually fell right into my trap! 0: Even If you delete this, you never countered me. 1: I never said you ignored me. I said you misanswered it. Either way it was made to be used an example. You seem to always mix examples with my main point. 2: So what if you don't understand Googoo. I was wrong on that, but it's not even the point. 3: The God works in mysterious ways thing actually does prove back-up. He does things that people may think are wrong, but he has good reasons making them right. <-Gray areas. People don't know those reasons, so it seems mysterious to us. 4: It's sad that you're so fixed on judging others that you believe that God only meant man can't judge man to eternal life. You can judge actions, but not the man. <-Gray area! Find it in the Bible, you misinterpreted, not me. 5-the striker: Haha! I never was trying to say you were in denial. I know you aren't. I put that in there so you'd try to counter it. I knew you would. It was a trap. In order to deny the absolutes I put in front of you, you would have had to use gray areas. That you did Will! Great job! You passed. You used gray areas, showing you that gray areas actually do exist. Another win for me. (For the record: My bad on using the word 'un-important' to describe what you thought of gray areas, instead of using the word 'non-existant.' Still, dispite my misuse of the word, my point stands.) 6: You said I was better, not great. I know. However, I said you and I probably define 'great' differently. I consider it to mean much better than good, and you probably thought I meant it as greatest. I know I'm not the greatest, but I'm pretty bricken good! Either way, I actually have improved a lot, but you let it pass you by. Not so easy to counter now. I left those holes knowing you would answer wrong. Your argument was highly predictable. I knew you'd focus on the fake holes that would actually lead you to your defeat. I made them appear as holes, but they actually were quite fail-safe. Therefore, even the things you countered, really weren't countered to begin with. Due to your lack of attention, you missed the variables that I added that closed them in. You thought you countered them, but you never did. 7: You now see that your argument was completelty based on false counters. You fell right into my trap. Don't worry, you got me on the whole Googoo thing. Too bad that was aside from the point. I seriously doubt you even put any thought into reading my comments. You simply read parts of them, and tried to counter. However, If you were to actually to read AND acknowledge all of the variables and back-ups that I stated BEFORE replying, you would have realized that you couldn't really counter my points to begin with. Isn't it ironic that you called me thick headed? Oh yeah, and Will....Gotcha!
 I made it 
  February 6, 2009
Gotcha. Just because I didn't answer everything correctly doesn't mean I'm ignoring it. I said the same thing to you to prove a point. Do you understand that? Also, half of the time when I take the time to read Googoo's comments, I don't understand it, even after reading it multiple times. You're wrong on that. Also, you seem to have a thing for mis-interpreting the Bible. The "God Works in Mysterious Ways" reference won't fly, as you have no way of proving that it backs up your point. End of story. Also, you previously referenced the quote "Man can not judge man", and I countered it. My counter still applies, as God was specifically talking about judging pertaining to eternal life. Also, if the before comment was directed at Shadow, post on his page, not mine. Furthermore, the reason I said I was done was because I'm through putting up with you. I'm not in denial, just get that through your thick little head. Here's another failure in your arguement: you said I called you "one of the better mech builders on MOCpages", but then said you're not a great builder. That's true, but saying you're "not great" and also "one of the better mech builders on MOCpages" are two different things entirely, and both are true. And lastly, I do find your arguements very easy to counter. And lastly, I give would give you a Failstar if it weren't for the no HTML review rule, as I didn't say gray areas are not important, I said there's no such thing. I'm done with you Phong, go hang out with Alex, Googoo, Joris, and all of your online pals. Any review by anyone [not just you] pertaining to this arguement will be deleted, as I'd rather spend my time building then argueing, especially with you.
  February 6, 2009
The humbleness thing was directed to Shadow, and trust me Will, someday you'll understand why there is a difference. Also, you said you can counter my comment. I know you say you're done, but if you really can counter it prove it. The comment has holes I left on purpose for you to answer. It's not as much to argue as it is to get you thinking. Once you get to thinking straight, you'll understand why I've won, and why your reasoning is flawed. If you want to stick with your beliefs, you'll have to face losing, you'll have to label yourself a quitter who's in denial, you'll be someone who actually lost but thinks he won, you'll be being close-minded, and you won't learn anything. However, if you are to agree with my points, you'll still lose, but you'll come out more mature. Counter away Will. If you counter you'll lose no matter what. You'll see what I mean when it happens. Anyway, back to this argument: I am self-confident. I think I'm great, not the greatest. Trust me, with the lack of good joint parts and only less than a year of mecha experience, I believe I have earned a good title for what I build. It's not arrogant to talk good about yourself. How do you even know the extent of how good I think I am? You act like most of the world; you'll call someone arrogant when they truthfully compliment their self, but if they lie about their skill and be modest, you'd tell them that they're really great. Before I ever complimented myself, you did call me a great builder, so what's so wrong with saying it about myself? I'm not rubbing it in people's faces, and I know I have room to improve, but I know I great as it is, and I won't lie about that. It's ironic that you say that I'm not a great mecha builder now, because back with our argument with Jeff, you replied to him, calling me something like "one of the better mech builders." If I'm better than good, doesn't that make me in a sense, great. I don't say I'm the best, but I know I'm very good. Very good is the definition of great. Perhaps to you it means something different, causing confusion, but if not, remember this: The people of MOCpages DID decide that I'm a great mecha builder. You said it's for them to decide, and they did. Now, I believe I have the right to think of myself as great. I don't believe that because thay do, but because I have faith in myself, and won't talk down about myself. That's who I am. If you don't like it, that's you're problem, because I know I'm not arrogant, and all of my friends do too. As far as you thinking you can easily counter my argument, you failed. You chose a gray area that was between what I said, therefore taking into account that you shouldn't always deal in absolutes. I believe your reasoning is very off to believe that gray areas are not important. You just won't take the time to think and discover what's hidden between black and white. Besides, If you deal in absolutes, why would you have a reason to quit other than loss? If you had a reason between what I stated, you dealed in gray areas. You lost. My point was not to really argue with you as much as it was to persuade you to think more deeply and not judge, but in order to do so, I had to argue. You might not know it, but you deal in gray areas all the time. If you believe judging others is OK, read the Bible. You have no right to judge. If you think you have the right to judge others, doesn't that make you a bit arrogant? To think that you are so high and mighty that you can label others in ways that are often illogical, is that not arrogant? I have self-confidence and know I'm a great person, but I have flaws, so I know not to judge others for theirs. Try looking at your own flaws before judging others for theirs. For you to call me kid is illogical for many reasons, but I'll name 3. 1: We're the same age. 2: You using the term to refer to me as immature makes no sense seeing to how you aren't anymore mature than I am. (You haven't even grasped the concepts of not judging and gray areas.) 3: Calling me "kid" is a way of talking down to others and referring to yourself as higher. That would make you arrogant, unless you actually have grasped the point of self-confidence, but even then, you're no better than me. Once you mature a little bit, you'll actually accept your loss, and chances are, you'll find that it's wrong to judge others, and gray areas are important. They can mean more than absolutes if you actually think deeper.
 I like it 
  February 6, 2009
Oh, and I might have to steal that hook design. It might work pretty well for mini scale stuff...(bows down).
 I like it 
  February 6, 2009
I know u guys r having a serious debate, but I invited you guys to my new contest. I hope you guys take up the challenge. I will be entering one mech, which I will probably post tomorrow. Anyways, please come take a look.
  February 6, 2009
Will, re-read this comment and think more deeply about what I'm saying, because in reality, you're dead wrong. I know you won't read this, but I'll say it anyway. It was a misunderstanding. I misinterpreted your reasons to ask what you did. There's a difference between misreading and misunderstanding. I never ignored anything on purpose. Besides, I tried best to answer correctly. You never answered my grudge comment how I intended, but I don't get on your case. I don't assume that you see things only how you want them to be seen. I see you forgive everyone. I was using forgiveness as an example. I know you and I believe differently now, and I can't force my opinion on you, but I know I'm right. I may sound arrogant and brunt, but I know I'm right. You said that Googoo makes no sense or something like that, but if you take the time to understand, it can make sense. You said God deals in absolutes, but remember that it's said that God works in mysterious ways. Is that working in absolutes? I see you're taking my ideas from our previous arguments and trying to use them against me. I.E: Different beliefs. This shows that you're either arguing in a way that's dishonest to your beliefs, or you've finally taken my points into consideration and agreed. Which is it? If you know how to deal with details correctly, then you won't "bend backwards" or whatever it was that you said, you're opening your mind to possibilities. If a judge had the choice to sentence someone to jail because they stole food, or the choice to let him go because they understand he was starving, they should look at the details of the situation so they don't wind up sending a starving man to jail. If you're not willing to look deeper into things past the absolute, then you're being close-minded or are just not mature enough. You accidentally missed or in your words "ignored" many of my points. I had a feeling you haven't matured enough to understand my points, but you probably will later. BTW: I've had multiple occasions where someone was to filled with pride or desire to not be proven wrong that they told me not to respond. Either your mind is clouded with dillusions of a false victory, you're in denial, or you don't want to admit you're wrong. These are absolutes. If you want to stick with dealing with absolutes, then you'll have to agree with me. The only way to prove me wrong is to deal with "fuzzy" details of the in between. Are you in denial? Do you have a false dillusion of victory causing you to believe that you've won? Do you just not want to admit that you're wrong? Or do you have a good reason that's somewhere in between? So Will, which is it?
 I like it 
  February 6, 2009
Wow, really cool minifig, I really like the backwards helmet idea1 =) I also really like the last picture! Also to show how I feel in this "war". I don't care where someone is from, I care how kind they are, and Fed deserves to be treated well! =(
 I like it 
  February 6, 2009
Will Thomas is great and his banter is the greatest. So to all you hatters of great people, take your hate somewhere else.
 I made it 
  February 6, 2009
Phong: your dead wrong as far as humbleness/arrogance pertaining to me, and also in general. Most people are arrogant, and I do not think of myself as a great builder, honestly. And you're also not as great as you think you are. Lastly, I just went back and read that post that you said I was "ignoring". Quite frankly, I find it weak and easy to counter, but I'm done with this arguement. I'm not admitting defeat in the least, I'd just rather spend more time actually building instead of talking, and with you no less. The phrase "Less talking, more MOCing" comes to mind. Take your arguements elsewhere, I'm done with you, kid.
  February 6, 2009
Glorius Shadow, (In reply to your comment on Will's Post Apoc Character) I don't rate my MOCs up anymore. PS: The reason people think talking good about yourself is bigheaded is because they have yet to draw the line between self-confidence and arrogance. The majority of the world believes that people should be modest, but when people are modest, when they are very skilled at something, people will wonder why this person isn't being honest about his skill, and saying how good he is. They'll tell him that he is great. Why not do the same for yourself? In a way, modesty is lying. If you're good at something, but give yourself half the credit you deserve, you aren't being honest about your skill. Take for example, your job application. When applying for a job, you're supposed to say what you're good at. If you were to be modest and say, "Oh I'm not that great," chances are, you won't get the job as opposed to someone who is straight up honest about their skill and doesn't demote themself. If the majority of the world knew the difference between self-confidence and arrogance, nobody would have told you that you have to be modest. They'd tell you to be confident, and give yourself credit for your skill. Unfortunately, the majority of the world is wrong. It may be a bold statement to challenge the beliefs of the mianstream world, but just because the majority believes something is right, doesn't mean it really is. Take for example, The Civil Rights movement. Before the CRM, the majority of America believed that racial segregation was right. However, one man and his followers believed otherwise. They knew segregation was wrong, so they stood up for what's right. These few people had the courage to stand up against the majority, and changed the world. They brought equality to the world, and ended America's segregation. The man who lead America out of racial segregation was Martin Luther King JR! To think, one man, and a few other people who had a belief that clashed with that of the majority's, was able to change the world! If the majority could be proven wrong before, why not now? I am trying to do the same with the concept of self-confidence as MLK JR did with the concept of equality. I believe that everyone is created equal, however, each individual has a special talent making them unique. I believe that they should be able to express this talent and give themselves credit for it, without being called arrogant. People shouldn't have to call themselves any less skilled at something than they truly are. They have the right to say their great. And if you have right to say you're great, then say it. If you're good at something, let it out. Don't let people tell you that your self-confidence is arrogance. Quite frankly, those people don't understand the difference between self-confidence and arrogance.
 I like it 
  February 6, 2009
in response to ur question: i never saw ur comment...try typing it again
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  February 5, 2009
kk... will..i made v2,,, and more mechs... come and see the v2 to see wut i did... ul be amazed! here it is: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/96716
 I like it 
  February 5, 2009
im waiting 4 more mocs from u!!!
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  February 5, 2009
thnx 4 the tips on my mecha... i just uploaded a new one... my inspiration is ur mech (click the link to see my mech) (its inspired by 2 of ur mechas, the HIM, and the SAR Mk 1 Hardsuit) http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/96586 THERE HE IS!!!! thnx 4 the inspiration... tell me if i screwed up on this dude or did good.
  February 5, 2009
hey will... I'm working on a Mecha right now (I'm not to good at Mecha) and when I'm done with it, would u come and comment on it... (its not 4 the score... I'm trying to get better at Mecha, i need your' opinions, really) and here is one i made a little while ago.. tell me what needs to improve (because i know i need to improve) http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/92579
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  February 3, 2009
omg rofl lol! muhahah! this is sooo funny... ut oh i called anime lame... phong will KILL ME?!?!?!!! ahhh.. ANYWAYS good luck in the contest will
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  February 3, 2009
What a discussion... Shame I cant join,its to long...I like discussions. But I do have one thing to say. Will Thomas,you have strong opinions and often come into discussions. And Phong Chang,some people think when you say that your mech is the best,they think your bigheaded. And some dont mind. Rating up your creations is laughable,if you use many accounts. And I must admit,I do think you are a bit bigheaded,but thats because Im one of the first person type I mentioned. You,Phong and other might not care,or take it as bigheaded and bragging. Im not saying this to offend and I hope Im not doing that. And having Internet friends is awesome. I have Phong,Joris,Andrew Colunga and Sebeus Inwium and Alex Ruiz + More! But dont get me wrong,youre a great builder,Phong! And I respect you Will Thomas. I usually do that when people have strong opinions. Oh and Nice moc! Heh.
 I made it 
  February 3, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang Woah, no need to get rude! I was messing around. Are you sure you're not holding a grudge?
I'm not, just take your random comments somewhere else.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  February 2, 2009
Will, I have a deal for our "you had much to much time to built"-problem: For the mech round I can make 2 entries. Well I want to make 2, because I have 2 good ideas and I canīt decide which one would be the right for this MOC-Off. I think if Iīm making 2 entries, which would both count like they would be my only entry we wouldnīt have to think about your to much time thing and I wouldnīt have to decide which one of my ideas would be the right. Do you accept my deal?
  February 2, 2009
Woah, no need to get rude! I was messing around. Are you sure you're not holding a grudge?
 I made it 
  February 2, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang I have to go into my epicness corner now... O_o
Go ahead, and don't bother coming back around here anytime soon.
  February 2, 2009
Oh no you didn't just call Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann |ame! LOL! Trust me, I have a friend who hates anime, but he got a view of TTGL, and he couldn't resist! TTGL isn't like most animes. It's pure action, and no 5 episode talk scenes before a fight! Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann! WHO THE HE11 DO YOU THINK I AM?! So Epic I had to say it! LOL! I have to go into my epicness corner now... O_o
 I like it 
  February 2, 2009
i am not a big anime fan either... lol... but phongs mechas r awesome... so that makes something lame into something epic! ok that did not make any sense!
 I made it 
  February 2, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang My buddy icon is so epic! (You gotta see the anime to understand.)
lolwut? And actually, anime's lame, not epic. VERY lame.
 I made it 
  February 2, 2009
Fine, I don't care. That said, with you calling all of the shots in this MOC-off, I'm not going to think much of it if you win.
 I made it 
  February 2, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang My buddy icon is so epic! (You gotta see the anime to understand.)
lolwut? And by the way, Anime is quite l*me. Go post your random reviews on Googoo's and Alex's pages, as this as well as many of your other reviews have no point.
 I like it 
  February 2, 2009
Yeah, sorry for inviting you twice, I invite a lot of people, and it's hard to keep track who I did, and didn't invite.
 I like it 
  February 2, 2009
My buddy icon is so epic! (You gotta see the anime to understand.)
 I made it 
  February 2, 2009
Quoting CC-7576 "Rex" Will, you should really come up with your entry now, Iīm getting the feeling that you are building a new one since you saw my Venator, if that should be really happening, you should know that that would be unfair.
Actually, no I'm not. I tried to finish by Thursday, and I almost did. I have only a few hours of building left on my creation, and here's why I tried to finish by the end of Thursday: on Friday, I went over to a friend's house in the morning [b/c my parents went out of town], and I stayed until late Saturday night. On Sunday, I had church, a friend's birthday party, and another party, all of which I agreed to attend before we started this MOC-off. And today, I have a doctor's appointment, school, and my first baseball practice. Since the end of Thursday, I have had ZERO time to work on my ship. I may have a little bit today, but should have enough time to finish it on Tuesday. Trust me Rex, I could care less who wins. I only started over once, and that was because that ship would have taken entirely too long to build.
  February 2, 2009
I'm pretty sure you actually read my comment, but are just being too stubborn to reply to it. You're probably trying to look like you'll stand by what you said.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 31, 2009
Will, you should really come up with your entry now, Iīm getting the feeling that you are building a new one since you saw my Venator, if that should be really happening, you should know that that would be unfair.
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  January 30, 2009
You guys have to got be kidding me. What the heck are you guys even arguring about? A court system? Wow.
  January 30, 2009
i know u probaly arent gonna read this... but if u do... EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR OLD PEOPLE USE SHOTHAND ONLINE CUZ ITS Easier!!! bye! iv said enough here.... and maybe went to far (not so sure....) and... thers no need to ramble on anymore....
Will Thomas
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CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 29, 2009
Will, in opposite to the time when I talked about kick your..., Iīm now seeing this MOC-Off as a more friendly one (to show you this I rated again with a "I like it", still I think that you have got enough "I like it" over the disscussions below, maybe I would simply repost the MOC). I hope you see that in the same way. Oh and is today the big day, I mean will you post your entry today?
 I like it 
  January 29, 2009
holy crap, phong, that was a mouthful
 I made it 
  January 29, 2009
I'll try to make this as brief as possible. 1) It wasn't like you "misread" a word or two, you ignored half of the sentence and responded to the other part, and then drawing assumptions from what you actually read. 2) So you think it's "mature" to deal in right, wrong, and fuzzy grey areas? I don't. God deals in absolutes, and for those examples you used, both are the "right" thing to do. I deal in absolutes, and it usually means I don't bend over backwards. 3) I'm very open-minded, it doesn't mean I'm not just because I don't conform to your beliefs. 4) I can't believe that Googoo takes a conversation seriously when he won't even take his own spelling and grammar seriously. I don't think of him as id*otic are anything similar, but I can't argue with someone who doesn't make any sense half of the time. 5) I don't hold grudges, not against you, Rex, Jeff, Googoo, or anyone. This will be my last comment on this discussion. Don't bother writing a comeback statement, as I won't read it.
  January 29, 2009
PLEASE READ FULL COMMENT. SORRY FOR IT BEING SO LONG. I actually answered your whole comment, well I think I did. Sorry I misunderstood you on value of court, but it's not because I only hear what I want; it's because I just misread what you were saying. I thought it was a question of "you believing that I do value the court, but still wanting me to answer." I don't hear what I want. I don't know why you decided to look at it in a negative way rather than looking at it as a simple mistake, but oh well. I really don't care what you think of me, because from my experience, you assume things that are not true. I somehow knew you wouldn't understand what I was saying, so I will let you try to let it sink in. In the meantime, I want you to read this. I wasn't calling you immature, but I was saying that you haven't gotten the maturity in that 1 select area to understand the concept of gray areas. It's so easy to look at things in the standards of black & white or wrong & right, but it takes more maturity to see what's in between. I.E: Committing a crime to save a life, or Judging a crime, but not ones character. Both of those are O.K. If you just look at something from the basic views of wrong and right, and don't put any thought into the possibilities of being wrong, but having the right reasons, then you haven't truly grasped the concept of right from wrong. The same concept applies with judgment. You can't just think of what's right to judge, and what's wrong to judge, but you have to look at why. However the things that should be judged are the actions, not the person, You can't just judge a person as a whole, but you can judge their actions if bad enough. Judges sentence people to jail because of actions bad enough to be called crimes. However, if they just sentenced people to jail because of bad actions in general--minor and major, we would all be going to jail including the judge. Fortunately, judges are usually able to determine what is significant enough to get put in jail for and what's just an insignificant bad deed/flaw. You have flaws, I have flaws, and every human being has flaws, and because of that none of us have the right to judge one another, but we can judge eachother's actions. Here's a good example: What if a guy stole some of your food, but was actually a good guy and was starving and homeless. You weren't home at the time for him to be able to ask you, but he needed food fast and had nowhere else to go. He's a good man, but committed a bad action, but with good reasons. You shouldn't judge the guy's personality because of his flawed action, but you can judge the action, however the action had good reasoning, so you should also be understanding. Look at his personality focused on his positive traits, but don't judge him just because he has flaws. Another example: You wouldn't argue with Googoo just because he doesn't type properly. You automatically assumed that he was unintelligent and wouldn't be able to argue well. What if he had good points and could help you learn something? Now you can't see how smart he really is, just because you were too focused on how he typed, that you automatically judged him as unintelligent and declared yourself smarter. Does it really matter if he doesn't type properly so long as you can understand it? It's just a way of typing faster. Sure it may be lazy, but the only thing that matters is his point. I'm not saying for sure you're wrong about him, but how are you to know for sure if you're too judgmental to give him a chance to prove you wrong? For you to judge someone can possibly show arrogance. Why would you judge if you didn't believe you were better than him? <--(Some things can be an exception to this, but judging Googoo isn't.) If you don't understand what I'm saying, then perhaps you haven't grasped what God means about judging and respecting authority. Please don't take offense to this, but learn from it. If you aren't able to accept when you're wrong, then you are only able to hear what you want, and just need a little maturing. It's no biggy. We are all immature in some areas, and this is one of yours. I also don't want to argue, but this is something you should know. Try to be more open-minded from now on, and don't focus on what you want to focus on in order to make yourself feel better, because you can't learn anything if you don't have the will to do so. I understand that it can be hard not to judge others for certain flaws, but take into consideration that you have flaws too. Even if he judges you for yours, don't judge him for his. Simply be the bigger person, forgive him, and tell him what I'm telling you. As that may also be hard to do; once you do it, you'll probably feel better than if you were to hold a grudge. Remember to forgive and forget. (I have trouble with that myself, but we have to try our best to do what God wants.) Also Will, good luck to both you and Rex on the MOCoff. ~Phong Chang
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  January 29, 2009
hey will... i can speak proper English... i chose not to because I'm on the INTERNET! LOL!
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  January 29, 2009
Quoting Lt. Colonel Ghostman Good luck with it. May the best Moccer wins. P.S. I'm with CC-7576 "Rex" on this.
No hard feelings, as he is a friend of yours. And to be honest, both of us don't really consider it a judge of who's better, just more as a friendly MOC-off.
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  January 29, 2009
Nothing to see here folks, let's move along. Besides, I have a Gunship to finish.
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  January 29, 2009
Hmmmm. Just more arguments.
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  January 29, 2009
Googoo: I refuse to have an arguement with someone who can't write out proper English. And Phong: I won't continue to argue with you either, because you hear what you want to hear. I wrote out a sentence saying that [not quots] the way you were talking was like you don't respect the judgements of courts, I didn't say that's how you think. So in that sense, it's you who needs to mature more, if you'll take fragments of what I say and then ignore the rest, as each part plays a key roll in what I was saying.
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  January 29, 2009
well um... lets just end this HERE: cuz ut dont matter that much...
  January 29, 2009
i agree wth wut u said phong... but... the only reason i ask 4 u to check out the new mocs is cuz i upload so often that u might miss the one i just put on... ... lolz... and... i am not fully in agreement with will, but i do agree 75% and i am glad sean changed some of the things... i am onyl a DEVOUT member of ONE alliance... (even though im a member of more, the reason is cuz i accept ALL invitations.. idk y?) and that alliance is... The neo botc.. cuz they have FUN moc-offs
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  January 29, 2009
Quoting Lt. Colonel Ghostman Will, I just don't want a argument, like last time.
Same, hence my last comment to you.
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  January 29, 2009
Yeah, I see it more as a friendly one too. And I just finished all of my school [it's 10:00 a.m. here], so I'm hoping I'll be able to finish it today. I'll do my best. ~Will
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 28, 2009
Have I told you that my preview is up? Well, like Í can se I havenīt, itīs at my Lastend Venator since monday. Oh and Iīm going to post my entry today.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 28, 2009
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/80645 well I also worked at something bigger (but not so big), just scroll down when you are there.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 28, 2009
Point judgeing? In this MOC-Off I prefer the good old word decision. I thought we would make it more in this way: I prefer your creation, Will / Rex, because . . . P.S.: My entry is up.
Will Thomas
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  January 28, 2009
Hey nice. Can you not be mean to me? I mean it's just a minifigure I LOVE(ed) your creations but if you don't like it just tell me to improve it! I don't have paint that i can use i can only use sharpie... So PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ DON'T HATE ME!!!!
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  January 28, 2009
On a more serious note [to Gm], Rex and I more or less settled our differences. My problem with him earlier was the fact that he said he would "kick my a--" [in a MOC-off], but wouldn't back it up. In fact, he never even agreed to eventually do it. Now he has, and I'm letting him call all of the shots. I'm being very nice in that regard. ~Will
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  January 28, 2009
Quoting Colonel Ghostman I'm back Will.
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  January 28, 2009
Will, I do value our court system. You seem to lack understanding for my points. There are grey areas in every situation, and court is one of them. Man can't judge another man by something like a personality flaw, but when it comes to something as serious as crime, then it becomes reasonable. Also man can't judge man, but we can judge some actions. I do believe in respecting authority, but not in an unfair way. IE: Just because someone is older than another doesn't mean they should have all authority over youth. Authority should be based off of leadership skills, ability to reason, and ability to not abuse their power; not one's age or social status. Some judges do not deserve their authority because they sometimes abuse their power. I'm not saying to disrespect authority, but I'm saying that a person with power, but bad leadership skills has no authority or doesn't deserve it. Undeserved authority is the kind of authority that you shouldn't have to answer to. If a person like Hitler said to kill all Jews, you shouldn't have to listen to him just because he has a higher social status. He doesn't deserve that power in the first place, so he has no real authority. You may think my point is invalid now, but once your mind matures a little, you'll understand the concept. (I'm not calling you immature, I'm saying that you just haven't grasped the right concept.)
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  January 28, 2009
Just a question: do you think you should get bonus points for accuracy?...my vehicle is 100% original.
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  January 28, 2009
If you're posting today, that should be fine. Mine will be up tomorrow or the day after. Please let me explain why it's taking so long: I started on a really big one ship, but didn't have the time to complete. I had to start from scratch on Sunday, and I'm more than halfway done with the one I'm working on right now. It's much smaller. And could you give me a link to your preview?
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 27, 2009
Quoting Will Thomas The reason I haven't been commenting is because I haven't been on MOCpages, like at all recently. I've been writing maybe 1-2 reviews per day, and I haven't seen anything new from you. And about your latest conversation review: If man can't judge man, does this mean that you place any value in our courts system, or in our local law enforcement agencies? I'm sure you do, so the only conclusion is that God means this on the issue of eternal life. Also, God specifically mentions respecting authority. This makes your point invalid.
Ah ha, well, ok. However donīt you think you should make a group for such a discussion. This is getting pretty far away from a comment on a LEGO creation.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 27, 2009
By the way, can mech be round 2 and Diorama round 3?
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  January 27, 2009
Quoting CC-7576 "Rex" Ah ha, well, ok. However donīt you think you should make a group for such a discussion. This is getting pretty far away from a comment on a LEGO creation.
Well, it's about over. Also, I don't mind mech being round 2. I should be done by Thursday with my ship. That said, I had to switch projects on Sunday. The one I was working on before I couldn't finish in two weeks, but my new one is coming along good. It's microscale.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 26, 2009
Can you post your preview today?
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  January 26, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang It doesn't matter Will. I dont want you to add me. I just wanted to know if you were holding a grudge. You used to be all friendly and comment on my MOCs, but after the argument, you don't. I don't care for you to comment, I only care if it's some sort of grudge.
The reason I haven't been commenting is because I haven't been on MOCpages, like at all recently. I've been writing maybe 1-2 reviews per day, and I haven't seen anything new from you. And about your latest conversation review: If man can't judge man, does this mean that you place any value in our courts system, or in our local law enforcement agencies? I'm sure you do, so the only conclusion is that God means this on the issue of eternal life. Also, God specifically mentions respecting authority. This makes your point invalid.
  January 26, 2009
It doesn't matter Will. I dont want you to add me. I just wanted to know if you were holding a grudge. You used to be all friendly and comment on my MOCs, but after the argument, you don't. I don't care for you to comment, I only care if it's some sort of grudge.
Will Thomas
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  January 25, 2009
When can you post your preview? I would like to post mine tomorrow, if that is ok for you.
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  January 25, 2009
Sure, but mine would only be a work in progress picture.
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  January 24, 2009
And besides, I can think of many builders who I didn't add who are much better than you, such as: Ralph S, Kevin Fedde, Ocean, Brian K, Son Nyguyen, Chris P, Rex, Orion Pax, and Masterchief 1, just to name a few. Any questions?
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  January 24, 2009
Quoting Phong Chang This is just a question, not a request or demand. A while back when you and I were cool, we both thought of each other as favorites. I actually don't care whether or not you add me, but did you avoid adding me because of our argument? I only want a response. Do not add me if you don't want, just answer my question.
Hmmm, I never thought of you as a top-tier favorite of mine. That said, why does it really matter? I've only added a few, so here is my list: Shannon Young, JD, Memory, Sir Nadroj, Andrew Becraft [he runs TBB], Sean Kenney, Legolord, Legohaulic, Jonathan, Nannan, Kelso, Keith, Gonfu, and Blue Star. Also, I could give a legitimate arguement on how each one of those is a better builder than you.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 23, 2009
My entry is done. Iīll post it tomorrow. Also Iīll post a preview as soon as you posted one.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 23, 2009
Than you can have extra time, what do you need, 3 days, 4 days?
  January 23, 2009
This is just a question, not a request or demand. A while back when you and I were cool, we both thought of each other as favorites. I actually don't care whether or not you add me, but did you avoid adding me because of our argument? I only want a response. Do not add me if you don't want, just answer my question.
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  January 23, 2009
Sure, about until next Wednesday or Thursday. I'll make you know when I'm done, and thanks for a little leniancy.
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  January 23, 2009
Quoting CC-7576 "Rex" My entry is done. Iīll post it tomorrow. Also Iīll post a preview as soon as you posted one.
As I said before, I'm going to need some extra time. I'm not the type of builder who can just knock it out in a few days. Rex: you've called all of the shots so far, and I've given you leniancy. Fast-building is an area in which I struggle, as seen by the amount of MOCs I've posted. ~Will
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  January 21, 2009
I just noticided that Iīll have nothing to do in the next time, so i would prefer a 3 round MOC-Off now. What do you think of a Diorama in the stile of a Post-Apoc sci-fi combi for round 2? I thinlk we both like Post-Apoc, so I think that would be a nice theme. What do you think and do you have suggestions for round 3?
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 21, 2009
Oh man, I just got exactly the same idea. Lets make mech in round 3.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 21, 2009
Well, thats difficult, because my work isnīt that far (Iīm lazy, Iīm playing to much Ps3 and I canīt find the rest of my detail pieces). If my work is far enough for a first picture Iīll post it. If it isnīt I canīt post it, because that wouldnīt make sense. Itīs your decision to post a first picture, maybe you shouldnīt do it, if I canīt and you are posting one that would be unfair and this MOC-Off should be as fair as possible (like I told you once before).
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  January 21, 2009
The "first picture" wouldn't be like a teaser picture of the finished ship, it would be more of a construction log. It would also be for me to post a picture of my [and my brother's] Lego collection. And if you need extra time to work on your ship, go ahead, as I may need a few extra days as well. :)
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  January 21, 2009
Hmmm, that sounds fine. Rex: I'm going to post WIP pictures in a few days, do you want to do the same?
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  January 21, 2009
Hmmm, since I'm already working on a Post-Apoc diorama, that works out great. For round 3...I'd have to think about that. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
Will Thomas
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CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 20, 2009
Every scale is ok.
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 20, 2009
Do you think you will need more time? Well, you hadnīt read it at the posted day, so if you need more time just tell me, I want to make this MOC-Off as fair as posible.
Will Thomas
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CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 20, 2009
The one to come.
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  January 20, 2009
I'm pretty sure I could get one done by then, I'll let you know if I can't. ~Will
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  January 20, 2009
Quoting Elite corporal Brennan Actually Will I do care about politics and how Obama was elected by brain washed liberals!!
Yeah, I noticed. I said "we don't care about how you think brainwashed libs voted Obama into office, just get over it, kid." I didn't say you don't care, I'm saying everyone else doesn't care what your political views are. All I was saying was to enjoy the MOC, but not get into a pointless arguement.
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  January 20, 2009
Quoting CC-7576 "Rex" Do you think you will need more time? Well, you hadnīt read it at the posted day, so if you need more time just tell me, I want to make this MOC-Off as fair as posible.
It depends, by "next Saturday" do you mean the one about to come up or the one after that?
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  January 20, 2009
It wasn't my decision, but you're welcome anyways. :D
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  January 20, 2009
I accept. I've been working on a big diorama for the last week, [not finished because I've been amazingly busy] but I can change my plans. Also, I have no problem with the judges, good picks all of the way around. I do have a question though; what size ship are we doing?
Will Thomas
CC-7576 "Rex"
  January 19, 2009
Ok, Will can you still remember your idea of having a MOC-Off and I said that I have no time for such stuff. Well, now I have time and now I want this MOC-Off, so Will, here is my challange: One round with the theme Spaceship. Date of posting: next Saturday, judges (we can still discuss about that points if you disagree with me): Big Pappa (neutral person and castle builder, he can give us a good judgeing at the MOC itself and at the overall looking), Firas (fantastic builder, he is for overall and detail judgeing, because he is one of the best detail builders I know) and John Moffat (Sci-fi and ship builder, he knows how to built spaceships and is the most themed judge, so he can give us exllent judgeing at how good the spaceship is as a spaceship). So Will Thomas, do you accept my challange?
  January 15, 2009
You misunderstood me. I said we agree on the same concepts, but to a different perspective and extent. We both agree spam is b4d, but you don't mind it, and I do, well used to. We agree that some reactions to spam are negative or over the top, but I believe they are good by standing up for their beliefs, and you don't. I know they go a bit crazy, but that's how they voice their opinion. It still can use work though. I try to look at things more positively.You can mention the negative things, but try to recognize the good as well. Don't look at how many flaws there are, but look at how many positive things there are. We agree that the reactions are off, but we take different perspectives. However we do disagree on the whole friendship thing. I'll let you believe what you want, but put more thought into it. You didn't seem to put much any thought into your response to my comment. Please re-read it and take things into consideration. Yes I do agree Rex's argument was weak, but he had a few points. I guess saying it was a draw was exaggeration. You won against him. I agree they acted immature. Now about Googoo, You misunderstood that too. I said asking for comments by one person every singly post is annoy!ng, but asking every once in a while is O.K. I know for a fact that I don't ask the same person every time I post. It's a burden. I used to ask for comments a lot before, but that was back when I first started and didn't understand. When I got more experience, I stopped. It wasn't because of Googoo, but by me not wanting to be much of a burden. I'll still ask sometimes, but not that much. BTW: Will, If you don't value online things and people,(Couldn't think of a good word) why would we have this argument? It's because you want to voice your opinion. You care about what your opinion means to others, and you want them to possibly agree, even though it's over the internet. You might not realize it, but you feel some significance for what happens online. If you didn't, you'd just ignore this argument.
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  January 15, 2009
Quoting Alex Ruiz my comment make you "lol"?
Just the fact that you spent more time talking about your own MOCs then you did his, and on his creation, no less. And besides, Jordan doesn't do MOCpages. He comments and reviews creations from guys on Builders Lounge and Flickr.
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  January 15, 2009
Why did my comment make you "lol"?
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  January 15, 2009
Jonathan: like I said to Miggy way earlier, having a conversation in and of itself isn't immature, and this conversation is definitely not pontless. Fed: yeesh, just go away, kiddo. Just more immatureity
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  January 15, 2009
Phong: No, I disagree with you more you think; such as on how to react to spamming and online friendships". However, haven't I got you to agree about how annoying it is when people ask you to review you [you used to think it was ok, but when Googoo started with you]? Also, don't you agree with me about how immature and obsessed so many of the younger [mostly SW] builders are? And lastly, don't you get how weak Rex is in his arguement? If you don't agree with any of those last 3 [or the 2 we still seem to disagree on], let's discuss it. I don't find this arguement pointless at all. I still don't think you understand what I was doing with those Christianity principles. I was only throwing them out and showing how it pertains to the real world, here and now. I know being a claiming Christian or not doesn't play any role whatsoever in determining how mature you are. Lastly, I don't think your "cyber-bullying" example was any good, because I don't put much value in what they say. And I would think in most cases, the "bully" is younger and less mature than the "bullied".
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  January 14, 2009
Johnathan, you got my point spot on! My latest comment states that me and Will agree, but have different beliefs. I don't believe an arguement should be run on just because of different beliefs. We all need to agree to disagree. Will and I have the same beliefs, but at different perspectives. No argument should be made about it. Will, I still need you to read my last comment and respond though.
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  January 14, 2009
Ok guys I have stayed out of this argument and I try to act mature here on the pages but still guys this argument is pointless. It doesn't matter what one immature person thinks. Seriously guys this isn't a chat room. Like the fig though :)
  January 14, 2009
I just noticed why nobody has won this argument and why you haven't been able to counter any of my logic; WE HAVE AGREED ON EVERYTHING THE ENTIRE TIME! LOL! We both have had and said the same things, only phrase differently and to a different perspective at some points, and we both weren't specific enough probably due to the lack of space. This caused a big misunderstanding making the argument drag on longer than it really should be. Look back at our comments and see how many times you'll find the phrase, "I agree." I fully understand your point of people being immature and mature at different times, and everyone being immature to an extent, because I was the one who told you that in our previous argument with Jeff. LOL! We also did agree about what to believe the significance of ratings is, but we've only had different perspectives. You don't care about ratings, and I do, but we both agree that the point of view isn't a matter of right or wrong, but a matter of personal belief. The one thing we do disagree on is if people of MOCpages can be friends, but that wasn't even part of our argument. LOL, the irony of our pointless argument is pretty funny! BTW: I forgive you about the whole "claiming to be Christian" thing. Just so you know, Christianity doesn't play any part of determining maturity, doesn't play a part in our argument. Someone can be atheist, yet still mature, and someone can be Christian yet immature. I determine maturity based on one's logic, reasoning, understanding of other's beliefs, leadership, and ability to handle a situation. Both you and I are mature Christians, but other people can be immature Christians. Also, I base a friend off of their kindness to me, the fact that they converse with me about multiple things like LEGO or anime, the fact that they'd back me up in things, and the fact that they would share some of the same interests as me. You seem to have done the same things, yet wouldn't consider yourself a friend of mine. Remember this: A friend can be anybody. It doesn't matter how far apart you live, a friend is a friend. You don't have to know what they look like, and you don't have to know eachother in real life. It's just like having a friend in a previous state you used to live in. Even if you moved, they are still or can still be friends. Even if we were friends over MOCpages, the definition of "friend" never changes. Friends don't have to be reserved to reality or dating sites. (which I personally would NEVER use but wouldn't care if others do.) They can be made here on MOCpages. What's wrong with having friends over this site? Why not have a few extra friends, even if it's over the internet. It doesn't hurt to have friends on the internet.(Just make sure to never give away your adress or phone number to anyone untrustworthy. Personally, I wouldn't give those things away to anyone over the internet at all, but I'd still remain their friend.) Their are cyber-bullies, so why not cyber friends? If someone can bully another over the internet, someone can also be a friend over the internet.Some people I'm friends with over MOCpages and over X-Box Live are better friends than some I know in reality. If you don't want to have friends over the internet, just have them as cyber-friends. You do as you choose, but I'm just suggesting. Everyone, this is between me and Will; please don't interrupt. Googoo, I agree with Will; you constantly ask me for reviews every time you post. It's quite annoying. I have no problem with asking every once in a while, but every time is is getting repetitive. Will, there's nothing wrong with Googoo asking non-friend builders or ones out of his league for reviews. He simply wants advice from the pros. He should still tone down the asking for reviews a bit.
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  January 14, 2009
Sometimes, but I've seen you do it for guys way out of your leauge that you don't know as an online "friend".
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  January 14, 2009
i ask peeps to see my mocs if they r my friends... lolz... not allies!
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  January 14, 2009
I'm not mad. I don't take online sites like this seriously, which is why I don't grovel for reviews by asking people to "check out my stuff" and join alliances. I get annoyed, but not mad. And also, you can't say that you don't join alliances for reviews, as you beg for people to review your creations. My point is there is no need for alliances in the first place. In principle, it's just review-mongering and ways to spend more time wasting your free time on the internet, instead of actually building. And "wut" good will come out of it? Hopefully, I can convince builders to stop worrying about the whole alliance thing, as it will make for a healthier, more mature MOCpages. This website used to be the center of the online LEGO building community, but now it's a joke. In fact, if it weren't for some fast-thinking by Sean [changing the whole system], MOCpages might have died. Better [and more mature] builders are slowly starting to make their way back, this still isn't their "home". Guys like Ralph S and Kevin Fedde would be good examples. New MOCpages aside, this still is the sandbox of the online lego community, and it's because of little kiddies forming their clone and halo alliances. ~Will
  January 14, 2009
will, not to be mean, but ur acting just like those alliance addicts... no offence... maybe these things are better left alone... cuz there is no need 4 this... wut good will come of it? tell me? i dont see any good coming from it! and no good has yet come from it! look closely... trust me... this is not as important as u think it is! how did this start anyways?
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  January 14, 2009
k. i dont think u should be mad a alliance members, uless, they r being mean and too obsessed... i play it like a strategy game... cuz its fun! not 4 the attention. k?
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  January 14, 2009
Googoo: You still misunderstand what I think about alliances. They're immature and childish, period. I definitely agree about your theory of it being a strategy game, though. If you play your cards right, you can end up with a ton more reviews and attention. Lastly, I'm not a member of any alliance, never have been.
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  January 13, 2009
4 ur info... im almost 14... and yes... i am a memeber of those alliances... but... i know they r no REAL ARMIES... and actually will, i was not talking about u wen i said "imature" i was talking about all those "bigshot" alliance addeicts who talk all fancily to make them seem smarter... it is really dumb... actually i agree with wut u said about alliances... i think they r fun... but not REAL! so im sry if u misunderstood u!
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  January 13, 2009
Quoting Googoo The Great --CROWS ELITE-- VETERAN=-Neo Duke-= AND WE COULD CALL THE CONVERSATION, "THE most useless imature conversation ON EARTH!" it is... too much crap about the AOT! the aot is not a REAL army... its just a bunch of 13 year olds playing Indians and cowboys... or cops and robbers... they think they r a real army! lolz!
Seriously? "We?" And how can you make fun of them when you're a 13 year old who's a member of that alliance, and like 10 other alliensez? Go somewhere else, kiddo.
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  January 13, 2009
i was not talkin about u will... i think ur 100% right about alliances... i think they r fun and all... and ok to join... but people take them to seriously... i picture alliances as a big game of Risk... its ONE BIG stratagy game... but some peepes take it tooooo seriously (definantly not u will, cuz u r not a member of many alliances, im talkin about those crazy peeps who get angry and start "wars") k will? sry if u took the thing i said wrong... i was talkin to everyone BUT u!
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  January 13, 2009
@ Googo :Seriously? "We?" And how can you make fun of them when you're a 13 year old who's a member of that alliance, and like 10 other alliensez? And this whole conversation is not "imature" [*rolls eyes*] and "useless", I think it holds merit. Go somewhere else, kiddo.
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  January 13, 2009
yeah... AND WE COULD CALL THE CONVERSATION, "THE most useless imature conversation ON EARTH!" it is... too much crap about the AOT! the aot is not a REAL army... its just a bunch of 13 year olds playing Indians and cowboys... or cops and robbers... they think they r a real army! lolz!
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  January 13, 2009
yes. we could call the group, "the most pointless conversation EVER" lets stop all this NONSENSE! k? will is partialy right about groups being immature... they can get to be... if u treat them as if they were a real clone army! BUT... they r not! so lets stop now!
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  January 11, 2009
Wow...So, I was thinking you could make a group for this conversation. Just an idea, you guys. =)
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  January 11, 2009
Quoting Elite Marshal: Null-8 "Miggy" , Fed never left due to spam, it was a white lie due to private reasons concerning the AoT but he's back now.
White lie my butt. Phong: I'll get back to you when I have the time.
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  January 10, 2009
Wow.....~LL
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  January 9, 2009
Yo, Will, Fed never left due to spam, it was a white lie due to private reasons concerning the AoT but he's back now.
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  January 9, 2009
[[Part 1]] 1) Ok, then we're agreed that there's nothing wrong with protesting against spam, but going overboard is immature and childish. That said, I wasn not accusing you of taking their side and acting childish about it, I just wasn't sure because you weren't being specific on to what extent you agreed. 2) If I offended you by calling you a "proclaiming Christian" [that is NOT anyway an accusation that you are not one], I was trying not to make an assumption by staying in the middle. You are a proclaiming Christian [as am I], so who am I to judge you, especially not knowing you personally? That term is many times used, and is not in any way a sarcastic way of saying that I don't think you [Phong] are a Christian. Please try to understand that and accept my apologies. 3) Whether I have lied or not [I've done my best not to make false accusations, if that's what you're considering a lie], the "white lie" was just an example. I'm not using Christianity as a crutch, but I was using Christianity doctrines and trying to show you they apply. And tell me if in my previous set of reviews you understood the whole thing about how a person is either acting mature or immature at any given time, and that everyone is immature to some degree or another.
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  January 9, 2009
[[Part 2]] 4) Like I said earlier, I don't particularily mind them protesting spam. For me though, just ignoring them/taking them lightly makes them go away. Like with Jeff and Gm, I had fun annoying them with my logic. After a few days, they both went away. 5) Yeah, I try to leave honest reviews telling the creator where I think they messed up, but also where I liked the creation. That said, most of the time when I review say, somebody from a clone alliance, I have to beat my reasons for rating their creation low into their head over a long period of time. 6) You said that they "might or might not" be acting obsessive. 7) Fed told me that the reason he deleted his account because one of his 7 creations in one folder was rated a 4.5/5, and that was the only reason he said. ~Will
  January 9, 2009
Anyway, your comment "Part 1" was crossing the line! At frst, I wasn't mad, but when you use our religion as a crutch to win an argument, you've crossed the line! First off, I do disagree with the immature things they did as you said, but I do think taking a stand is good if not going overboard. You know I wouldn't justify voicing an opinion using insults and whatever, but you decided to use that as one last failed attempt to counter me. You and I both know that our religion has nothing to do with what we believe to be mature and immature in this context. You told me I "claimed" to be Christian?! Don't EVER accuse me of simply "claiming" to be Christian. I am Christian, by belief and by faith, not by mere claims! This is what I was talking about for your random assumptions! You will try to make false accusitions of people, but this time you thought it to be all fine and dandy to add assumptions about my religion in as your crutch! You know that religion has no part of this argument, yet you just needed an easy way out. You always try to use religion as your ace in the hole in order to get me to quesition myself! You'll ask me "Is that the Christian thing to do?" Ask yourself this: Is it Christian to use our religion as a crutch in your argument?! Is it Christian to judge other people and accuse them of merely "claiming" to be Christian?! Christianity is our religion, NOT something for you to use a crutch in an argument! The simple fact that you have to stoop so low shows your own immaturity and your defeat. BTW Will, I find it humorously ironic how the guy who makes false accusitions of people and uses religion as a crutch in arguements just thried preaching to me the sin of lying. Trust me Will, I'm well aware of that concept, but it seems you need to give it some exercise.
  January 9, 2009
I'm not talking about your inability to leave honest reviews. I agree with you on that point that it's immature, but I'm talking about dishonest ratings/spam. Sure Rex and some other select MOCers are immature by not being able to take the truth, but they can be mature by standing up against spam. Look at the glass half full. BTW: I feel your pain about not being able to give honest ratings, but you don't always need a big argument. Either ignore them, tell them the reasons, and if that's not enough, tell them they got what they deserved, so they shouldn't get mad. I remember generously giving a guy a 4 and getting spammed in return. Not everyone is like that though. I think you took such a bad image on people that care about ratings, that you let it overshadow the good views of them. I was neither on Rex's side, nor yours; I was totally neutral. I never said that him or the others WEREN'T obsessive, I said thay probably were. Maybe Fed deleted his account because he ha a bad day, and spam topped it off. Perhaps they developed O.C.D. for ratings. LOL, it's possible!
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  January 8, 2009
[[Part 2]] 4) I never called anyone idiotic besides the spammers, look at my last review. 5) Like I said before, I can't leave an honest review on a mediocre creation anymore [while giving reasons] without getting into a serious arguement. To most people, low rated-constructive reviews are a bane, they would rather have something written [with a 5/5 rating] like "Cool! Check out my MOCs!" Most people here cannot take constructive critisism without having an arguement about it. That's immaturity, and not being able to take honesty for what it is and leave it. 6) There are many more people on Flickr who laugh and make fun of MOCpages, but have you ever seen people defending it? [besides a member of the pages] There are many who stand neutral, but those who engage on the immaturity level here are almost always negatively comment on MOCpages. For that, I applaud them; because they're absolutely right. 7) Sure, I think standing up against spam and spammers isn't a bad thing. No matter how you go about it, I think it's taking the whole thing too seriously, but that's just a personal preference. The part where it gets immature [and lulzy] is when the spammers figure out that spamming annoys the given MOCpages member. Then, that person leaves hateful reviews, which puts the member into spasms and they go into a rage [ex. "We're creating an anti-spam army!!!]. The spammers aren't really as angry or hateful as they seem, but the builders are. The spammers starting name-calling and things just to get the same thing from the builders, the builders are really that obsessed and that hateful of these people.
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  January 8, 2009
[[Part 1]] 1) They took a stand, I know. But to you, do the ends justify the means? Is doing whatever it takes to voice your opinion/get them off your page the right thing? Is name-calling and threatening the "right" thing to do if the "right" outcome is reached? I really would think from someone claiming to be a Christian, you would disagree with that level of immatureity and childish behavior. 2) There is no such thing as "partial maturity". Sure, everyone is immature to some degree, but at a certain time, someone is either "mature" or "immature". As a Christian, I thought you would understand this as well. The example you're giving is like a white lie, which in theory is sin, but not really. It either is, or it isn't. 3) Oh, and my comment in the HO group, I didn't call anybody id*otic. I don't remember specifically what I was referencing, but it was somebody's/some groups actions. I don't call people names. I think I called creating a "anti-spam army" [which still cracks me up] id*otic, but I don't call people that, because everyone is to some degree, which [in Biblical terms] would mean everyone is. Now some actions are and some aren't, but wouldn't you call making that "army" pretty l*me?
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  January 8, 2009
4) And how can you think people like Fed are not obsessed with rating? He said "I wanted to make a 5 star comic series", but one of the issues was rated a 4 1/2. He then deleted his whole account. If that is not obsession, there is no such thing. 5) When you said there was tension [in my arguement with Rex], you weren't specific; you didn't say just on Rex's part, you only said "there was tension". 6) I don't value "online friendships" at all. I value those with people I interact with on a daily basis, who I meet face to face, know them personally, and who really care about me. Save your friendships for online dating sites, but keep it professional here on MOCpages. I find it slightly annoying when people say they have "friends" on the pages, but it's not one of my pet peeves, that's just my opinion on it.
  January 8, 2009
I see what you mean on some points, but sure they are immature on their reaction, but they took a stand either way. How do you know the were actually angriliy typing rather than trying to send an image of fake anger to get a message across? Trust me people do that. How can one partial immaturity in someone shadow their overall maturity? They may be very mature in other situations. You said you never called the AoTs 1d1ot1c, but you did in your comment in the HU group. You said they can't handle constructive critism or honesty; sure, but thats something they can work on. It's just lie how you need to learn foregiveness and stopping when told to. Perhaps I was wrong on their intentions of ratings, or perhaps you are. Maybe they're just obsessive compulsive on ratings or have the intentions you or me stated. BTW: Did I ever say you had tension, no. I directly sent the message to Rex. PS: Why do you refuse to make friends here?? Everyone here is a person. We talk, play, and do plent of things that real friends do. Is it that you were raised to where you were told having cyber friends is for lusers? AAH,got to go to school! And trust me Will, you have plenty immaturites to work out of your own, just as everyone else does.
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  January 8, 2009
[[Part 1]] 1) Those builders, [the "anti-spammers" as they call themselves] go absolutely nuts when they get spammed or receive a low rating. Nowadays, I can't even rate a creation a 3/5 [after giving legitimate reasons] without having an arguement insue. Their [the "anti spammers"] goal when building a creation is not self-satisfaction [even if they get it after building the creation] and not getting constructive reviews, it's all about getting an overall 4.5/5 or 5/5. I mean, even with the more "mature" builders such as Fed. He deleted his account because one of his creations had a 4.5/5. If that is not having your building world revolve around rating, I don't know what is. 2) There was no more tension [at least on my part] in my arguement with Rex. Did you ever see me use exclamation points, lots of question marks in a row [like ?????], or all caps? I'm not mad in the least at everyone. When you see me using the above characters, then I'm mad. But I almost never get mad. 3) I never counted anything you said besides the humor? In my last review [and the ones before], I tried my best to counter everything you said. If you still have specific questions/statements that you want answered, go ahead, tell me them now.
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  January 8, 2009
[[Part 2]] 4) I never called anyone id*otic besides the spammers, look at my last review. 5) Like I said before, I can't leave an honest review on a mediocre creation anymore [while giving reasons] without getting into a serious arguement. To most people, low rated-constructive reviews are a bane, they would rather have something written [with a 5/5 rating] like "Cool! Check out my MOCs!" Most people here cannot take constructive critisism without having an arguement about it. That's immaturity, and not being able to take honesty for what it is and leave it. 6) There are many more people on Flickr who laugh and make fun of MOCpages, but have you ever seen people defending it? [besides a member of the pages] There are many who stand neutral, but those who engage on the immaturity level here are almost always negatively comment on MOCpages. For that, I applaud them; because they're absolutely right. 7) Sure, I think standing up against spam and spammers isn't a bad thing. No matter how you go about it, I think it's taking the whole thing too seriously, but that's just a personal preference. The part where it gets immature [and lulzy] is when the spammers figure out that spamming annoys the given MOCpages member. Then, that person leaves hateful reviews, which puts the member into spasms and they go into a rage [ex. "We're creating an anti-spam army!!!]. The spammers aren't really as angry or hateful as they seem, but the builders are. The spammers starting name-calling and things just to get the same thing from the builders, the builders are really that obsessed and that hateful of these people.
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  January 7, 2009
Great job, i like the work on the gun, very nice
  January 7, 2009
First off, people all have different things they hate and like. It's not arrogance or revolving our LEGO world around ratings. It's that we simply like to see a just rating on our MOCs. We enjoy the feeling of having a 5. I no longer care about spam because there's no highest rated section, and ratings don't get based off of average. I can still understand that others do. Maybe they just like the feeling of having a 5. Sure they know spam and rating doesn't reflect true skill, but maybe they like having MOCs at highest rated or just like seeing 5 smilies. 2nd off, For you to assume that Rex backed down because you cornered him is wrong. I told him to quit arguing do to the fact that MOCpages is meant for posting MOCs, getting reviews, and making friends, not anger-fueled argument. Sure you and I are arguing, but there's no tension. You never won, he never won. I believe you are assuming that you cornered him as a way to make yourself feel like the better man by winning. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. BTW: You never countered anything I said in my previous comment other than the humor thing. I can understand why you find the irony funny. I do think that finding something funny and making fun of someone are 2 different things. You went into the Hardsuits Unite page mocking the ones who argued with you by calling them 1d10t1c. You were also pretty much bragging about your victory which you never had. 3rd, Even though you consider "kiddies" to mean immature, some of them may actually be mature in reality, but have beliefs that you feel to be immature. Sure Rex was wrong to call you EM0, but you were wrong to call him 1d10t1c. BTW: Even if you were to win against Rex, you wouldn't have the right to insult him and brag about it. I know my ideals on self-confidence, but what you were doing was bragging. Don't make it any harder on him. I believe none of you won. PS: You said many builders on Flickr agree with you, but many disagree with you. Someone's view of the impact of spam and significance of ratings isn't a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of personal belief. I.E. You believe spam is O.K. and that ratings don't matter at all, but others believe spam is wrong and like having good ratings on their MOCs, not for reflecting skill, but for personal enjoyment/value of a high rating. Both beliefs are equally as valid, but they simply show different views on the situation. I think it's noble for Rex to stand up against spammers, because he was standing for what he believes. Whether spamming is significant or insignificant, he felt it to be significant, so he took a stand. If that's not mature, what is?
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  January 7, 2009
My goodness! What lively banter =). That is a wonderful character!! Took some imagination to do that, good job.
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  January 7, 2009
Phong: "kiddies" is a loose term to describe [in this context] so many of the annoying, immature younger kids on MOCpages. And their point of view proves my point to the letter: their LEGO building world revolves around their MOCpages creations' ratings. And I don't understand why you think it was a draw between me and Rex: I forced him into a corner [after he claimed he was a much better builder than me] by challenging him to a MOC-off and he backed down, it's as simple as that. But with you, I don't understand why you get into an arguement, and then randomly decide to stop it after no conclusion is reached. And it's my type of humor, it's just there [because this is after all MOCpages] and I find quite amusing how id*otic the spammers are, and the passionate response of the kiddies. Take yesterday for instance: I saw a AoT guy say that he's making an army to fight spammers. That made me laugh out loud. And do I encourage spam or do it? No, but it's a part of life on MOCpages, and is something I've grown accustomed to. It's just that so many younger, immature builders can't get over their pride and arrogance to accept it. And lastly, you're exactly right on you're last statement. It's so sad, it's funny. Many of the builders on flickr agree, such as Tim ltd, T Karrde, Zach C, etc...
  January 6, 2009
I saw your rude comment in the Harsuits Unite! Group, and it wasn't cool. Will, by calling the Star Wars builders "kiddies" shows that you feel above them, proving your own arrogance, and by calling them immature just because they care about ratings shows your lack of maturity because you aren't willing to understand their point of view. Don't brag, because by what I've read about your debate, I say nobody won. I'm willing to forgive you, but you need to learn to forgive others, because you always continue arguing and bragging after they say to have a truce. Either way, people only end arguments with you due to the annoyance of your random assumptions, not because of your victory. By finding their anger funny shows a lack of maturity also. I'm all for "different people having different humors," (Mine can be pretty vulgar and random) but when you would find one's struggles or anger funny shows that you might be willing to allow spam for simple Lulz. Maybe you aren't, but maybe you are. Either way,you told Jeff that it was sad that he found our reactions to spam, yet you now say that you find it funny.
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  January 6, 2009
very nice.. I like the rebreather where does everyone get that amazing "night vision goggles" piece you used for the helmet?
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  January 6, 2009
I like the backpack antenna. I did something similar with the night vision goggles before. Very creative with the limits on size.
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  January 3, 2009
you could add a peice of that mideval armor and paint it to make him buff. cos he looks skiny abit.
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  January 3, 2009
The fig is really neat, I love the overall idea with the rubber bands and such. But, Will, in that picture of your room there is a guy who's face strangely resembles another guy I saw in a wanted poster some time ago, better watch out buddy...and is your ceiling normally fury? Might want to get that looked at...
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  January 3, 2009
i h8 that jeff norton guy... i was the first guy he picked on... i pned him... so he is getting back at me buy being mean to alll my friends... i should have left him alone and let him torture me... so u guys would not suffer... i think it is partially my fault... sry will... P.S. u seem a bit angry will... wut is wrong?
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  January 3, 2009
lolz xiazerian... im an italian american... lolz!
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  January 3, 2009
hey will! nice moc! check out my new mocs! and join my new groups i made piz!
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  December 31, 2008
Phong: the only reason I stopped was because I was somehow blocked from writing a review on your creation on the old MOCpages system. And until you grow up, just go somewhere else.
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  December 28, 2008
Miggy here. Hey, Jeff's started calling me racist too(lol). I told him to give me the translation of something and he calls me racist. Oh well, I came here to tell you that I think that this is awesome. It's not some way of begging for forgiveness, I really do like it~Miggy
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 27, 2008
Will, you are right, MOCpages is a playhouse, I noticed got that feeling times ago, but today showed me that it is really a playhouse. All this spammers, raitings and such stuff shows me clearly that everything what Sean planed went bad. You are right that MOCpages was well thought and was the best LEGO page out there, but now with all this spamming it is getting simply stup!d. Oh and by the way, how is the new 2009 system? Do you think it will help against spamming? It would be very friendly if you would answer. P.S.: I want to end our conflict now, it was only another MOCpages playhouse thing and I would prefer if MOCpages would be good again. Here you have the statement: I, CC-7576, am not better than Will Thomas.
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  December 27, 2008
Love it! The gun looks a bit touchy though, maybe you could turn the binoculars the other way, use a revolver as grip and the clip as barrel. Anyways, nice moc!
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  December 26, 2008
Wow guys, all of you are ganging up on Will?! It's pathetic! MOCpages is a site for making friends and building, not for making enemies. As far as I'm concerned, you guys are being pretty immature. Sure Will can be rude at times. IE: Julian Acosta's incedent, accusing Alex Ruiz of public stuntage, etc, but everyone has flaws. Will just needs to work on his as we do ours. Arguing will not help. PS: Will, if you never got the message I sent to your Ainiki,(Bro in Japanese. I watch lots of anime.) Merry Christmas!
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  December 26, 2008
*Yawns*
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  December 26, 2008
Maybe so, Jeff. But you're almost as bad as Ghostman.
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  December 26, 2008
Ok, I'm going out of the house for the next few hours, it might be up today.
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  December 26, 2008
C'mon. Give me a way to take the picture a certain way or put a certain object in the pictre. You know I could find a pic of an umpire uniform on the web.
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  December 25, 2008
Actually Ghostman, this thing between Rex and me started a long while back, and I didn't start it. And there has to be someway to prove to you that my umpire jersey really is mine...how about taking the pic at a funny angle, or placing an object on it?...just to settle it.
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  December 24, 2008
Ghostman, And whos ever in on this spamming thing . YOU SHOULD STOP and forget all what you've said and have a GREAT holiday and be nice to each other. Because its the Holidays!! REMEMBER??
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  December 24, 2008
May the spirit of Christmas light up your heart, and fill your life with love, joy, and LEGOs!! "MERRY CHRISTMAS"
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  December 24, 2008
Hey Ghostman: why are you accusing me of spamming Rex's page? I don't spam, kiddo.
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  December 24, 2008
1) I can't just up and build a MOC, especially over this weekend. 2) that wouldn't be very fair, would it?...doing one theme, and that being your speciality.
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  December 24, 2008
Ghostman: do you seroiusly think that you're winning this arguement? I've mopped the floor with you the whole time. And to prove this, tell me to put like an object on it, or take it at a funny angle so it is proof. Lastly, I'm not doing school anymore so I'm not on the computer all day, I was cleaning out the roof gutters on my house. Sheesh. Fed: sorry, I can't build over the weekend, and I won't do a 1-round SW MOC-off with someone who's playing on their own field.
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  December 24, 2008
Fed: if you don't want to be in this arguement, just leave. But if you do want to do the MOC-off, we need to set up the guidelines. Ghostman: when did I say that Rex is poor and boring? I really don't remember it, and do you still want proof of my job?
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  December 24, 2008
Do I agree to a MOC-off Fed? Is that what you're asking?
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  December 23, 2008
Who is here the fake and who is the real Gm??? Iīm getting really confused. Real Gm say what only you can know, the thing we talked about.
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  December 23, 2008
340...340...
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  December 23, 2008
I could post a picture of me in my umpire uniform. Would that satisfy you? And I'm not sure if Rex is better than me, but if he would accept my challenge, then we could settle it. Why don't you talk to him about it, Ghostman? You seem to get along with him real well.
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  December 23, 2008
Real ghostman (I think) Nope, I do games at my local ballfield, with the 9-10 and 11-12 year old leagues. And like I said earlier, I don't lie. And fake ghostman [I think it's you] linky please?
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  December 23, 2008
If you live in America, you'll know what it is. I'm an umpire.
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  December 23, 2008
Fake Ghostman (I think) - That's a good idea, I'll ask Fed again in a week or so. Real Ghostman (I'm pretty sure) - I'd love to carry on this arguement, but I can't, as I'm arguing with two different people going by the same name, so I'm not sure who I'm talking to, making it hard to go back for reference statements by that certain Ghostman of saying this or that. And it wasn't that I have better things to do [I find this whole arguemnt quite entertaining between Gm, Gm, and JN], but I was Chrsistmas shopping all morning, with money that I got from my job. *Cough Rex Cough Cough*
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  December 23, 2008
Fake Ghostamn and Jeff Norton- Will has better things to do than reply to you low lives. I know I said I wouldn't comment anymore but I had to say that.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will at this point, you should get to know something, I a Elite Commander and you, usual MOCer, arenīt compareable. Two completly different types of persons. Lets just say we both are good builders without saying that anyone is better and anyone worser than the other one. Will at that point I think we both should stop talking about that theme. Just one thing, I respect you as a good builder and you should respect me as a good builder, too. This whole situation came up, because of the comment of someone who thought that we would have problems here. The situation we have now got worseer and worser with this talking. I say we end this here and never think about that here again. What do you think?
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
I said already that I have no time for this stup!d stuff, Will, I would really like to kick you in your !%$, but I canīt. God damn this, get it in your head and if you donīt like my MOCs donīt comment and if you comment say why it isnīt 5 of 5. Man you are !%$, Iīm not going to continue this sentence. Oh and Iīm not going to take back what I said.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
take your pills
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will if you are SO much better than everyone here why are you still here, I really think if you hate this page so much and if you are so god damned good why are you still talking to us lower creatures huh and why havenīt you left jet???
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will, I really would recomment you to leave this page, I mean look at you MOCpages destroys your soul. You are to angry, you should try to calm down and think if this is normal what is going on here, Gm is a very friendly person (usually) and look how far you brought him.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Oh and Will, I just saw that you never builded a vehicle similar to my tank, only tha thing in the MOC-Off with JD Luse, still you rated my tank with a 4 of 5 and a lot of better builders than you said that it would be 5 of 5 (Sebeus, Apple Pie). And if I look at that black tank I can see that your tank-vehicle-thing is not better than my tank. Maybe some time ago I was a weaker builder, but not anymore, want to see that Iīm right, look at my big Mygeeto and at my MOC-Off entry no.2 (Hunting Ventress) with Fed. I could beat you, but I have no time and I have no money to order a lot of pienes in the moment. Oh and had you ever had a MotD, I had!
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Oh and Jeff stop attacking Gm, or are you like Will???
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
mocpages.com/moc.php/83780
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
are you LIKE Will, not are you Will
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
ht tp: //ww w. moc pages.c om/mo c.p hp / 83 78 0 , just leave out the " "
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will, the only thing you have is that I say no. Well, but we have much more arguments. Oh and you are a freak, look at you.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Ok, Will, I hadnīt wanted to say that, but now I got the feeling that you canīt control yourself anymore. I think you hate me so much, because you are a god damned good builder and I am a god damned good builder, too, but I have so much more than you have, my good MOCs have more comments, I have more fans, Iīm a leader of the popularest organisation here and I had a MotD and I have won much more stuff than you and I have a lot of people defending me. I started as a worse builder and now Iīm as good as the best builders here. You are started with the same and still you donīt have nearly as much as I have. In your real life you are a "king" and here other people are the "kings". I will not continue this, you should already know what I mean.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Yes Gm, that I noticed yesterday, too.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will has lost, the rest weīll hear from him is bu[[$h!t and even more bu[[$h!t.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Yes Gm.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
1st, why am I a leader of the AoT, because Iīm good, 2nd you donīt have any answer to the king argument have you?
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Uhm Will, just noticed something, I have much more different types of MOCs than you have, Iīm a better alrounder than you. Iīm finding more and more stuff in which Iīm better, oh and if you are wondering why I have the time to do this here, Iīm watching TV during Iīm talking to you, if I woudnīt it would be getting boring when you are ever writing the same. Uncreative Will.
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Gm, tell him to leave MOCpages!
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Come on Egg Head Will, whats up with the king, Iīm not sure if e.g. Phong Chang could beat me in SW Dioramas. To say it clear on my terrain Iīm better than he and on his terrain he is better than me.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
I just wanted to show you something, but you missed the lesson.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Nice useing of google
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Ohi, such a wise guy we have here! Will, some news for you, with that we are getting away of our theme.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
Will are you able to answer the question???
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
My question is the same as always, why are you so fixed in showing that you are better than me and why are you at MOCpages if it is such a playhouse of bad builders?
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
I just said that noone of us is better than the other one thats a way of saying that my first comment was uncorrect.
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 22, 2008
I canīt talk to you anymore, you are to crazy for me.
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  December 22, 2008
Rex: linky - http: / / sjvs.flvs.net / educator / student / frame.cgi?bderryberry1 *wthomas1* mpos=1&spos=0&option=hidemenu&slt=8Np6UqG22 / 6Gc*2205*http: / / sjvs.flvs.net/webdav/educator_whist_v8 / index.htm
  December 22, 2008
Hey i just want to let you know you didnt win the arguement i just dont wanna agrue with someone so immature. Besides you jsut want attention
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  December 22, 2008
Hey just to let you know i didnt lose the argument i just am not gunna argue with someone so immature. Besides all you want is some attention and im not gunna stoop down to your level
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  December 22, 2008
I undertstood bits and pieces, but I just started Spanish 1 >,>
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  December 22, 2008
Muchas Gracias Fed!
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  December 22, 2008
You misunderstood me. I said I already asked them, and they said no, Rex and Fed.
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  December 22, 2008
Ask Fed - the whole conversation wasn't on this page. I proposed it to Fed and Rex, but not Fett. Ask Rex and Fed. Both.
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  December 22, 2008
Actually, I already asked them for a 3vsME, and they all declined. And I never said I was a good builder, but I did say I wanted to hear Rex back up his mouth. Ask Rex or Fed, they both know about me asking for the 3v1 MOC-off.
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  December 22, 2008
Idon: is there anything wrong with having an arguement? Is that immature in and of itself? And how is critiquing Rex's arguement immature? I have not talked in caps, called people names, or lost my cool at any time.
  December 22, 2008
There you go again Immature. be the bigger person step down from the argument yourself. This will be the last comment from me.
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  December 22, 2008
Rex: I'm just trying to drag out of you either you want to put your self-proclaimed skills to the test, or get you to back off what you said. But then you started to deny the fact that you made that comment. I'm not crazy, I'm just way out of your league. Next time you feel you're ready to take me on, I'll be right here. Idon: are you serious? you stoop down to my level? Me being immature? Really? I haven't called anyone names [like Rex, egghead guy, Jeff, etc], I haven't screamed [writing in caps], and I'm not angry. I just finally decided to stoop down to your level to have this arguement, you're just stepping back down to flounder in your childishness.
  December 22, 2008
Hey just to let you know i didnt lose the argument i just am not gunna argue with someone so immature. Besides all you want is some attention and im not gunna stoop down to your level
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  December 22, 2008
Nope, you first said "I kick you in your A., because my level of detail is much better than your level". So are you or are you not taking back what you said?
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  December 22, 2008
And furthermore, I never said I was a better builder than you, I just want you to prove it, while you said that you're a much better builder than me.
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  December 22, 2008
You're missing the point, because that's now what you said in your original review. You said you're a much better builder than me. I challenged you after that, and then you backed down. So are you backing down from what you said earlier?
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  December 22, 2008
That's what I thought. I win - epically.
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  December 22, 2008
And are you able to give a straight answer to my answer? Seriously, the MOC-off doesn't have to be right now, it can be later, whenever you want. I'll take you on any time, any place.
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  December 22, 2008
I'm not interested in being better than you, it's the annoying fact that you're claiming you're better than me, but you don't have the gut to back it up. And why I'm staying is my own business.
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  December 22, 2008
And eggs don't have teeth.
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  December 22, 2008
You're a persistent little booger.
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  December 22, 2008
The latter. Thought you were leaving? And I haven't lied once yet.
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  December 22, 2008
What would that be, Rex? I'll be happy to answer any of your questions.
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  December 22, 2008
Gracias, el gustio es mio!
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  December 22, 2008
Thanks Rex, I'm glad you feel that way. How am I the coward, Ghosthead? Eggman?
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  December 22, 2008
Cool! Nice try, but it's background reading before I get to the real part of the lesson.
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  December 22, 2008
Well, I just burned you. Eat pavement, n*ob.
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  December 22, 2008
Ooh!!11!!!11! i can haz cookiee?
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  December 22, 2008
The Renaissance was indeed a period of rebirth. Florence, Venice, Genoa, Milan, and Naples were cities that flourished during this time. Wealthy Italian families, who gained their wealth through trade, commissioned artists to create pieces of art to display throughout the city. The wealth of these patrons of the art was demonstrated through the number of artists and pieces they had financially supported. By the late Renaissance, artists became well respected and less dependent on patrons. New techniques were developed. The incredible masterpieces of Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo brought great attention to Italy and to other places in Europe. *That was part of the lesson I'm reading*
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  December 22, 2008
Obviously. But I don't want to be king. And you're not, anyways; besides your messed up alliance.
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  December 22, 2008
I did both, while doing school. Eat it.
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  December 22, 2008
Like I said before [I did say it] I don't want to be king of n*obpages, and I never will.
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  December 22, 2008
Errr, Rex? I didn't say anything about a MOC-off between you two, I meant you two arguing vs me. You phail
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  December 22, 2008
And sorry, I'm on the inside. :P P: And I'm the army of 1. I'm M4573R CH13F
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  December 22, 2008
You better believe it, Ghosthead.
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  December 22, 2008
Yeah, tell me off! Hack my account! W00T! And Rex, you're a big sissy. Building yourself up, and then backing away when I corner you.
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  December 22, 2008
Nope. I'm homeschooled, I'm getting extra work done so I can finish the second semester early.
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  December 22, 2008
The tough guys the one with the account, and not afraid to post his MOCs. You were saying?
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  December 22, 2008
Do you want to put that theory to a test, Rex? And I'm doing school while talking to both of you.
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  December 22, 2008
Your desire is my command, master.
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  December 22, 2008
Actually, I've won arguements with Joris Blok, Martin Stenbekee, Phong Chang, Jeff, you, Idon, Rex, Tristan, and Julian Acosta. Any more questions?
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  December 22, 2008
Yes, I do Rex: first of all, I don't care about my status on MOCpages, which is why I don't join alliances and ask people to review my MOCs. ~Egghead
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  December 22, 2008
i r iz teh egghed
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  December 22, 2008
Yeeesh. Immature kiddo. I hope you don't find the LEGO pools on Flickr.
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  December 22, 2008
And actually, I have a lot more reviews than him, 3 MOCs with 50+ reviews, not counting this one. Can you read?
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  December 22, 2008
Okay, but actually, I have 3 creations with 50+ reviews, not including this one. And what does he have to do with all of this?
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  December 22, 2008
Actually, you don't have to: this quote is taken from his homepage: "For the people who donīt know: Iīm a part of the Army of the Trinity, there I am a Elite Commander , that means one of the three leaders, so look at it, too."
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  December 22, 2008
Rex is, ask him.
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  December 22, 2008
Are you serious? He's in the AoT, the biggest alliance on MOCpages! Wow, you win? You're a laugh a minute, Gm.
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  December 22, 2008
Rex: what I have is that you've called me emo and unstable [that med joke]. And the only reason you get a ton of reviews is because you're a member of a huge alliance, which is a major popularity stunt. I don't self-promote like you do, and I don't care that you're a leader in an alliance. In fact, I'd respect you more if you weren't in any of those alliances. And do you want to know something Rex? You can have MOCpages, as it is the sandbox of the online LEGO community. So you can have your alliances and your childish .com's for all I care, merry Christmas. Gm: Jeff's not Asian, and talking about chinese cookies isn't racist.
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  December 22, 2008
About 10 reviews ago, you said that I was a good builder who puts a lot of detail into his MOCs. Perhaps getting a little mad, are we? *waits for example*
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  December 22, 2008
Danke = Thanks. I challenged Rex to the MOC-off, and he won't accept. So if anyone's a coward [not assuming that he is], it would be Rex.
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  December 22, 2008
Ghost: Rex is the one who won't accept my proposal, so who's really the coward? I'm willing to put his theory to the test, but he's not. And where's that example?
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  December 22, 2008
Eh, Ghost: it's because I haven't posted a bazillion MOCs [and the MotD choice is completely random, I have many eligible creations], and I do have a life outside of MOCpages. And name an instantce when I insulted Rex, just one. You're both the same, making outlandish clames without backing them up.
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  December 22, 2008
So, you're chickening out? Yep, leave it to a MOCpages clan n o o b to act this way. What a complete sissy.
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  December 22, 2008
And you wouldn't have to do the MOC-off at the very moment, but soon.
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  December 22, 2008
Um...nope, I'm not Gm or Jeff. They're both too hilarious to be me.
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  December 22, 2008
Rex: to my soul? Are you serious? You're the one rampidly insulting me, not the other way around. You shot off your mouth, and now won't back it up. I know you have the pieces to build, so either back up your claims, or whistle dixie.
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  December 22, 2008
Actually, I wanted to see you two fight it out over who has a life. And doing this and school at the same time is soooo counter-productive.
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  December 22, 2008
Cool! Now prove it.
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  December 22, 2008
Hmmm, how can I shut up and say something at the same time? And where's Jeff when I need him?
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  December 22, 2008
Wow, you two can go ahead and argue about who has a life, as you both claim it. Jeff vs. Ghost, in a 15-round bout! And Ghost: I think we're close in building skillz, and he can talk all he wants, but I want to see him prove it.
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  December 22, 2008
I'll admit it when he blatently beats me in a MOC-off, Ghost. And your repitition is very lulzy. Stick around, kiddo. You're worth a fortune.
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  December 22, 2008
And why do I get the feeling that Jeff and Ghost are the same person? Either way, glad to have you watching, Jeff. That means more lulz, this time from the press box.
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  December 22, 2008
And you really do amuse me, Ghost. Your blithering mouth is a fountain of delight for me.
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  December 22, 2008
I'll admit it when he beats the cr*p out of me in a MOC-off, like he said he would if he ever does it with me, which he says he won't.
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  December 22, 2008
And actually, lolspeak is not spammer language, it's actually making fun of people who do it in real life and can't write out a sentence.
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  December 22, 2008
Well, I want to see Rex prove it. And my lulz just went to a lol, as you call me egghead in every comment. Pretty soon, it may become a ROtFLOL
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  December 22, 2008
I was doing lolspeak when talking to Jeff, who is a self-proclaiming spammer. And after talking about cookies for a little while, he started speaking in a foreign language, so I asked him if he wanted a chinese fortune cookie, which is the only type of foreign cookie I know of. And Rex is the one insulting and making rude remarks, not me. So who's immature now?
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  December 22, 2008
Actually, I could easily name at least 25 builders on MOCpages [not including myself] who are better than Rex, and maybe even 100. And I want to see Rex prove that he's better than me, instead of talking smack and then running away like a sissy. And is "Egg Head" the best insult you can come up with? That made me lulz. I like you, Ghostman.
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  December 22, 2008
And also Ghostman: I'm not angry at Rex, I'm slightly annoyed by how immature he's acting. And he's called me emo, spoiled rich, etc...and you talk about me having anger management issues? Wow, way to go, kiddo.
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  December 22, 2008
Ermmm, actually, I'm not a spammer. And actually, I'm talking to Rex because he called me a spoiled rich kid after calling himself a better builder than me and then won't go versus me in a MOCoff. Rex: thanks for reminding me!
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  December 22, 2008
Miggy: and since when am I not allowed to critique others, as far as if they do alliances, and also their building skills? And the reason I answer so fast is because I do all of my school on the computer, so I check MOCpages about every 30 minutes. Tom: Cool!
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  December 22, 2008
Right, Phong, I didn't say that people who enjoyed their hobbies have no social skills, I said that Will didn't because he was mean to people and if he has social skills in real life, why is he always on MOCpages replying so quickly all the time? I am in this too Phong, yes, but how long did it take me to reply? Answer=two days, because I have social skills. But saying that, I'm sorry for saying it, Will. This is a two sided petty feud and you should end it and everyone should apologize to eachother.~Miggy
  December 22, 2008
Hey man, stop arguing. If you mess with te Elites, you mess with me too.
Will Thomas
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Lord Patrick Leon
  December 21, 2008
He looks very cool!
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 21, 2008
Will, you really think you would be such a great builder huh? NO! You arenīt, you are just a rich kid building with masses of LEGO, you got from the money of your parents. You can belive me, if I wouuld have the time for such a stuff I would show you who is the better builder here, but I donīt have the time for this. In the moment I have a lot to do and your MOC-Off idea is by far to unimportant for spending time in it.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 21, 2008
Will at that point I noticed that I canīt talk to you anymore, this is getting really annoying and I donīt want to get annoyed.
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  December 21, 2008
Mmmm, sounds like a white flag to me, Jeff. Apology accepted.
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  December 21, 2008
Fed: okay, if you don't want to get involved, this is between me and "Rex". Rex: you're annoying me by not responding. You started talking about how you and your eleet kumandur friends would destroy me in a MOC-off. So let's see it. Either take back what you said, or face me. It doesn't have to be right now, but saying you could destroy me and then not backing it up wouldn't be something a real elite clone would do, would it? And I thought Rex was your hero.
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  December 21, 2008
Why? Because Rex couldn't stop running his mouth how all 3 of you are sooooo much better builders than me, and how I'd lose so bad. And he won't accept my challenge, because he said it's a waste of time.
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  December 21, 2008
Fed: actually, I had two different arguements; one with Idon, one with Jeff. Me and Jeff were arguing about me being a r a c i s t, and me and Idon were arguing about the AoT and lego in general. About a few of the things you said: first of all, I'm not great. I've been getting soft lately, not always reviewing when I wanted to tell to tell them that their MOC isn't as good as they think it is, and also being really nice giving 5/5's when the creations didn't deserve it. And Jeff doesn't make me angry, or hasn't brought me down in the least; I just had an arguement with him. He called me emo, a r a c i s t, a b * * * *, and a few more, but I kept my cool. I don't call people names like he does.
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  December 21, 2008
Wow Rex, so you're backing down? And actually, I'm not a "rich spoiled kid", I have a real job that pays fairly well which gets me the money for most of my legos. The others are Christmas/birthday presents. Compared to some, sure I'm spoiled. I have my own bed, I have a computer, and I have parents who will drive me to my job. But no, my parents on most occasions have nothing to do with the amount of legos I have. In fact, I would venture to say you probably have more than me. When I make a MOC, I put in as much detail as I can, and make it as big as I possibly can while still maintaining that level of detail. And it's amazing the ridiculous claims you can make, but don't have the stomach to dry and back it up.
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  December 21, 2008
Phong: I know you're trying to help, but just let Rex run his mouth. I haven't "won already", and he and I both know my Kashyyyk is old.
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  December 21, 2008
Jeff Norton below: seriously get a L I F E. i know you don't have one so don't reply back to me that you do.
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  December 21, 2008
that is really cool
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  December 21, 2008
Now Will, remember when you called me arrogant? I kinda think Rex here has just showed you the difference. Rex, you and Fett arent better than Will. Will's Kashyyk is old too. You think your better than him? Feeling all high and mighty just because you made one MOC better. Take a look around at some of his other MOCs. It's his victory. I can't believe you were so rude. Will, I know we're not exactly friends, but when I see that kind of behavior, I have to step in. Miggy, I absolutly h a t e when people act like people who spend time on their hobbies have no social skill. That kind of belief is a b s u r d. Don't forget, you're in this too.
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  December 21, 2008
I have some Chinese in me due to my Filipino heritage, and Will isn't being racist. He won Jeff. Quit picking on people. It's childish.
Will Thomas
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  December 20, 2008
1st: Look down, if anyone would be emo, it would be Rex, eough for me to say that you callled me emo. 2nd: I will not accept, because you wrote about all three Elite Commanders, there is no way how T Fett, Fed and I could built together at one MOC (Iīm living in Germany, Fed and T Fett in America) , so this challange is impossible.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 20, 2008
Hey Will, why have you rated my MOC low, I never said anything against you since our conflict ended, only Jeff did so, it would be friendly if you would change your raiting or explain why only 3 of 5. O.S.: The helm of this guy here is awesome, the gun, too.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 20, 2008
I was not talking about you when I was talking about the spammer, look at my CC sig-fig, there youīll see the spammer I mean, all the bad comments there came from the same prson, to annoy me he left his e-mail adresss everytimes.
Will Thomas
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Elite Commander CC-7576
  December 20, 2008
OK, now you made me angry, too, calling me emo, bad idea and you really want to challange T Fett, Fed and me, huh? T Fett would kick you in your A., because he has huge creations, Fed kicks you in your A., because his storys are perfect and finally I kick you in your A., because my level of detail is much better than your level, I mean look at your Kashyyyk and at my newest Kashyyyk (you can find a link to oit at my homepage), come on you would loose. Oh and I only said the truth to your MOCs, they are awesome, but I donīt like unfriendly persons like you. P.S.: Infact MOCpages isnīt that what it was at itīs beginning , but bow it is better, even you should see that.
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  December 20, 2008
Did I call you emo? No, but if any one was acting emo then, it would have been you. You were absolutely out of control, and then I rate a different creation of yours a 5/5, and then you go in the complete opposite direction. Is that emo? No, but it's a lot closer than me telling you to stop making fun of them when they might have a disorder. And no, the MOC-off is not impossible. I do a 3 round MOC-off vs all 3 of you, one at a time. That said, I can't do it at the moment, as I'm trying to finish this semester of my school [I'm homeschooled] and also am waiting on an order of bricks. So not yet...but soon.
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  December 20, 2008
After you answer me.
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  December 20, 2008
Miggy: actually, you'd be surprised at how many adults build with legos. And in fact, I usually don't spend very much time on MOCpages, but this conversation is proving quite interesting. Rex: so you're accepting it? And I never called you emo, YOU called me emo a while back, and I thought you were insulting me on your page yesterday.
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  December 20, 2008
Jeff: you still haven't answered it. You started talking in "German", and so I talked about foreign cookies. The fortune telling chinese cookies are the only ones I know of, so there you have it. And talking about cookies is not racist, no matter who makes them.
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  December 20, 2008
If you had social skills in real life, you wouldn't be spending all day arguing on MOCpages. And lego is a kid's toy, it was made for kids and just because a select few adults use it, it is still a kid's toy.
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  December 20, 2008
I'll ask for the last time (and I asked you first) - how is talking about chinese fortune cookies being racist? Wow, for all of those languages you speak, I guess you didn't learn how to answer a question.
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  December 20, 2008
Jeff, Erlaubnis jetzt. Niemand sorgt sich über Ihre Meinung.
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  December 20, 2008
Errrrrr...it doesn't look like Russian, but I'm not a language professor. And once again, I'll ask you: how is talking about a foreign cookie racist? And I never said I thought you were Chinese.
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  December 20, 2008
I did use cookies before, and then you used a translator to start speaking in other languages - and chinese cookies were the only other kind I knew of so...there you have it. And I didn't even make fun of the cookie, so how is mentioning it being racist?
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  December 20, 2008
Well first of all Jeff, prove to me that I actually have to defend myself. How is talking about chinese fortune cookies being racist? And if anyone's emo, it's you Jeff. You rant, rave, curse, vow to get me for it, etc...
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  December 20, 2008
I'm in the AoT but I'm not a kiddie and I ain't getting involve here. Just saying my Opinion. ~Alex
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  December 20, 2008
I read the whole thing and Will I'm here to back up D3 M0NK3Y-M4N.(I'm talking to Martin Steenbeeke and saw your comment.) Sooo... LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE. LOL. No really. Jeff, G E T A L I F E A N D B A L L S. Was that to many words 4 you? ~Alex
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  December 20, 2008
Jeff: if anybody's emo, it would be Rex. I gave him a 2/5 for his emo-pwnt MOC series, and he called me an emo spammer :o After that, I rated one of his other creations a 5/5, and he pretty much kissed my feet. So you tell me, who is it that's emotionally unstable. And honestly Jeff, go ask all of the guys on Flickr if MOCpages is the best place to be. They'll all tell you the same thing. And someone please, please tell me how talking about chinese fortune cookies in lolspeak is racist? Somebody? Jeff, could you please back up your claims somehow?
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  December 20, 2008
Miggy: you just put yourself in the arguement, so here I go: is rating someone's creation a 3/5 and giving 3 reason why spamming or being immature? And LEGO is not only for kids, it's for many adults too, and quite frankly, it is the online LEGO community's play house. Spamming, bribing for reviews, bickering, calling people racists *cough Jeff cough cough* are normal things, which is makes this site so ridiculous. Mkay, so I lack social skills? Maybe, but not in real life, where I value relationships a lot more then in this little sandbox. And also, you gave me a good idea. I just might challenge all 3 of the Elite Commanders to a MOC-off.
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  December 20, 2008
Frog: I don't want to leave this site, but soon, it may come down to that. But I'm going to stick to my guns until they run out of ammo. And would you call rating a creation a 3/5 immature, especially when I gave valid reasons? That's all I did, and Idon went nuts. And I know there's no way I could stop an awesome alliance such as the AoT, and I'm not trying to. But, I am trying to give them a taste of reality.
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  December 20, 2008
First of all, I am going to say I don't want an argument and I'm not going to spam. But what you have said to people is really mean. You seem to think that you are the best and quite frankly, the three elite commanders are a lot better. You can call MOCpages a 'playhouse', but lego is a kid's toy, so you're just contradicting yourself. Just because you don't have social skills, it doesn't mean other people can't have friends and ask people to comment on their stuff. You are probably the only 1 person here who doesn't like doing that, so no-one really cares about your opinion. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
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  December 19, 2008
Frog guy - I don't want to leave MOCpages, but it's coming down to it. I'm going to stick to my guns until the ammo runs out. I'm standing up for MOCpages, or at least what's left of it. And no, the only reason I get them mad is to get them to argue with me, all I have to do is touch a button and their skimpy little b o m b goes off. And theres no way I could disrupt any alliance such as the AoT, their leader runs MOCpages.
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  December 19, 2008
Idon - actually, you're dead wrong on a lot of stuff. First of all, this whole argument with you, Jeff, and frog-jedi or whatever is giving me lots of fun. MOCpages is not cool - it's a LEGO playhouse for the little infants. It's this flood of creations from bad builders that has ruined this site. First it was Halo, now it's Star Wars. Why would I want to make your life miserable? It's because you've been doing the exact same thing to me for months now, and I just can't stand it anymore. And I give myself a two because I don't give a flying cr*p about my rating.
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  December 19, 2008
DUDE you sick just sick why would you want to make kids lives miserable that is a sign of immaturity and i know now you are a spammer huh to bad your MOCs are pretty good to o well guess not. O and what kind of person gives them selves a 2
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  December 19, 2008
frog: and chineese fortun cookie aslo can hsa ur futur on et. taht r iz teh coolst
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  December 19, 2008
Wow, frog. So I should leave this site because I don't like alliance and other forms of immaturity? On the other hand, you're probably right. MOCpages has fallen so far from what it used to be, I probably just should leave. But I'm sticking around, and I'm going to make the little kiddies lifes' miserable.
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  December 19, 2008
lolz... is this a spammer familly riunion... it is that FROGGY DUDE! lolz! and THE FAMOUS Jeff Norton... P.S. jeff... u were pwned.. so wut r u tryin to do... get revenge at us all.... back odd "Chineese cookie" LOLZ! JK! ahahahah!
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  December 19, 2008
That is the biggest lie i have ever heard. I know lots of members who know there creations arent that good but its because they have FUN now lets think about that word FUN. That word is something you dont get i joined MOCpages was becasue it was cool and i like to show ppl my creatios not because i thought i was the best. The members dont ruin this site its ppl like you that ruin this site.
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  December 19, 2008
Seriously??? I mention them and use bad spelling of the word "China", just like the rest, and you call me a racist? How?
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  December 19, 2008
I dont care.
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  December 19, 2008
Hey Jeff, that friend wouldn't happen to be Phong by any chance? And I had no "rascial" [nice spelling btw] intentions, you just kept talking about being foreign, and I wanted to keep talking about cookies, so I combined them. I was being silly, and wasn't poking fun in the least at any heritage. I was doing lolspeak, and trying to make up a foreign cookie joke. jeff no liks cookie frmo Chinu? he strat beeing meen insetad?
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  December 19, 2008
O and that comment ego the size of everest man that was funny
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  December 19, 2008
U do have a good point he doesnt run the site but he gives those ratings so ppl do start trying to move up in rank thats the purpose of his allaince i understand that you hate the AoT and stuff but he is a kind guy and he is a great builder so can we call a truce. Also could you look at my comic and tell me what you think of it
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  December 19, 2008
OO i dont care about the rating at all i could care less doesnt affect my ships rating at all. I told fed because hees the leader of the AoT and we encourage good building not discourage it like you i am not telling you what grade i am in Sorry i just dont do that. Anyway as i said before i dont not like you you have great MOCs its just i dont want you thinking that i hate you i dont hate anyone your MOCs rock and thats all that matters i hope you arent mad
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  December 19, 2008
So who cares greeblys and SNOT are overrated who cares about that why not use classin old bricks.
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  December 19, 2008
Uhhhh ya sure i would like to know why
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  December 19, 2008
Ya i know i am smart so dont mess with me or Hawk-eye or fed for that matter please change your rating. Also wanna join the massari coaliton
  December 19, 2008
Hey u did u say you were going to join the trinity i know because i live by hawk0eye and i asked him so there you go i know
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  December 18, 2008
What do you mean be Lies?
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  December 18, 2008
forin pursen wantz chineze cookie instaed?
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  December 18, 2008
did u guys here taht? i iz gonig 2 join teh trinetee!!!11!1
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  December 18, 2008
Hey to answer your question about being in the AoT. I am no the leader Elite Commander Fed is. So just ask him if you can join either on the Trinity page.
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  December 18, 2008
Oka, dis tim i give u frehs bakd masive cookie. u lik tihs time????????
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  December 18, 2008
But u wantz cookie?
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  December 18, 2008
No can has watur.
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  December 16, 2008
What do I have to say about what? I don't get how you're testing the new MOCpages. How do I test it? PS: Read my comment below this.
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  December 16, 2008
What new MOCpages test? PS: Why don't you consider MOCpages people friends. Just because we're over the internet, doesn't mean we can't be friends. The only difference is the fact that we don't know how each other sounds and we each live in a different state. We still interact, compliment, and chat with each other. A lot of people have called you a good friend, including me, and you act like a friend. I'm not such a supporter of internet dating (seems kinda creepy) but having friends is ok. Call it hipocracy, but internet dating has predators, but not MOCpages. I think it's fine to have MOCpages friends. Kinda like X-Box Live friends.
  December 16, 2008
Hey Will, I joined your group, but then somehow got kicked out, and I can't join again, help me please!~LL
  December 16, 2008
I see the ULR worked well, spread the word Will!~LL
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  December 16, 2008
Will, if none of that works, go to my Homepage, it should be white. Then read down to JD's name under my favorite builder's list, that should take you the New Mocpages.~LL
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  December 15, 2008
READ ALL OF THIS COMMENT. SORRY IT'S SO LONG. Telling people to check out my MOCs was not self-glorification. I simply wanted comments. I don't do that much anymore, but it was never self-glorification. You calling me arrogant is absurd. I never called myself the greatest. I said that I am a great mecha builder though, and you know it. You even said I am one of the better mecha builders. Why am I not allowed to agree just because it's me? I'm not trying to brag. The only reason you call it arrogance or bragging is because the compliment is coming from me, to me. There's nothing wrong with complimenting yourself if you have reason to, and you need to understand that. Modesty is lying, and I'm not the type to make up lies about myself, just so people think I'm modest. To me modesty seems like a way to get attention and sympathy from others. If I was arrogant, I'd think I'm the very best mecha builder. I'm one of the best of my age, but the true best are: Izzo Yoshi, Ryu Kwi, Brian Kescenovitz, and so on. I'm not the one who calls myself the best on this site; other people do. As I do disagree with them, I'm flattered by their compliments. My goal is to become as good as Izzo, Ryu, and Brian, but I have not yet reached that goal. Until I'm better than them, I will not call myself the best, and I never have. If you have a problem with my self-confidence, don't bother speaking to me. I'm not arrogant. I'm sure that you think you're a great builder too, but you are too afraid that people will call you arrogant for saying it. Have some courage. Don't let people tell you how you must think of yourself. Self-confidence is not arrogance. If you're one of the best at something; say it. There's nothing wrong with complimenting yourself if it's true. Just don't get too filled with pride that you're rude to others. You're one of the great vig makers of your age. There's nothing wrong with you agreeing with me. Why bother telling people that you aren't as good as you really are? You know why people call self-confidence arrogance? It's because people are too narrow minded to understand the difference. Arrogance is where you are rude to others just because you're better than them, and brag to rub it in. Self-confidence is when you talk good about yourself without being rude about it or bragging. I was never blinded by delusions of my own greatness. I simply have self-confidence and can see the world more clearly. Perhaps you are to blinded by the illogical rules of society and fear to stand up. Be yourself; don't be modest just so people can think your a better person. In reality, you'd be lying. Self-confidence makes you a better person. If they are to immature to handle your self-confidence, tell them what I'm telling you. Let them learn about self-confidence too. If they don't listen to your advice, let them stay at the bottom, and let yourself rise to the top. Even if people call you arrogant, don't listen to them. Their words are senseless and insignificant. They simply lack self-confidence. ~Phong Chang
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  December 15, 2008
Self rating isn't wrong if you deserve it after spam. You and I are different. My jokes are immature. I'm just that kinda guy, but my true personality is neither immature nor arrogant. You called me out on the homo thing after I apologized. I stopped, yet you dwelled. I said I was finished, so stop this calling me immature and arrogant. It's reflecting your disability to let things go.
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  December 15, 2008
sweeeeeet! check out my new mocs!
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  December 14, 2008
I guess slip out wasn't the right phrase, but I made those rude paragraphs without really thinking straight. They seemed well thought out, but they weren't. Please read the latest comments I posted on my Vulcan. Will, why are you letting this 1 bad event ruin our friendship, and change how you think of me. I am not an arrogant guy, but you don't seem to know the difference between self-confidence, and arrogance. Also, I'm not immature, but you dont seem to recognize the difference between an accidental fluke of behavior, and immaturity. I will say this one more time: DO NOT MAKE FALSE ACCUSITIONS OF ME. Now can you tell me that I'm not arrogant or immature so I know you've forgiven me and let this go? This whole thing is bugging my conscience.
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  December 13, 2008
I wasn't being arrogant. I accidentally phrased that wrong, so you tok it wrong. But what's wrong with talking good about yourself. That's why people have resames.(I think I splelt it wrong) Self confidence is good, just so long as you don't get overcome by pride. Now will you please quit accusing me of being immature and arrogant?! You and I were good friends once, but you seem to be talking down to me quite a lot. I admitted I was wrong, and you keep ranting on to me. I HATE being accused of something I'm not. I'm not sure if you still want to be friends, but I still do. I hope our whole arguement doen't get you to think wrong of the Phong. (Sorry, got a bit cheesy with the jokes. It's your choice, but NEVER call me immature or arrogant.
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  December 13, 2008
Don't worry, you don't fail. I got some 'caps of that page also. Oh, I totally realized i've forgotten to review this the whole time! I really like the figure's gun. Nice night vision-like goggles also.
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  December 13, 2008
I have had this question for a while: Did you just randomly decide to climb your wall like a monkey, then take a photo? LOL!!!! Anyway, since we're on at the same time; you, Johnny Boy (I've had the urge to say that for a long time.) and me shold have a MOC chat.
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  December 13, 2008
Will, that banning thing was supposed to scare Jeffery! I hope he didn't see your comment before I deleted it. >.> (Dagger eyes)
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  December 12, 2008
Phong Chang here. I saw your comment on Matt's FORGE entry. The point is to unite mecha builders in a new alliance style. It's quite fun. Anyway, you said his heli-mech was the best. Don't get me wrong; it's amazing, but I just posted a new mech to make you eat those words. Check my real page.
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  December 12, 2008
Hey, I'm actually thinking about posting some minifigs myself...after Luseville. Not bad! That torso is perfect. (Monkey Man!!) ^^
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  December 10, 2008
This is a very cool custom character. I like this helmet and the weapon. - Can you please check out my new starfighter?
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  December 9, 2008
Ok, I deleted it. I will try to talk to Phong, but I think first you need to understand the FULL story. On flickr, there is a group called "Because it's MOCpages." It's a group where you can find screen captures of funny comments or adds from MOCpages. I only had ONE picture of Phong's MOC because I thought it was funny that he posted his theory of the fourth dimension on MOCpages. I had a lot more screen captures of other funny things from MOCpages, but I deleted them to save space. Also, if you notice, I never insulted Phong, I just posted a picture and left the commentary up to the readers.
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  December 9, 2008
This one is so simple and complicated at the same time! ton of pieces on a figgy! any way good job, also good work on ROTATING the last pic up side down ;p .. keep it up >>> peace.. Fofo :)
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  December 8, 2008
Can't really see it. Love the minifig. Please say it's for Facetag #5 and tag someone! ~Alex
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  December 7, 2008
I like the character! The gun is nice and the mask is awesome! Check out my new moc!
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  December 5, 2008
Lmao! You iz da monkyz cleaning da wallz!1!
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  December 5, 2008
Awesome! I can't remember if post-apoc deals with post-nuclear war or zombie invasion, but your dude looks ready for both! Whoever rated this a one CLEARLY doesn't have a reason to :)
 
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