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abandon building flare up.(still 2 alarm)
well were back at holland street a few hours after the first fire.this time it was getting severe.this time we still called in a 2 alarmer with the the units there before and new units there.mcfd command 1 and mcfd battalion 1 and mnfd battalion 4 and mcfd tanker engine and tiller1.and engine 4 returned with engine 1 and ladder 1 and brush 1 mini pump 1 rac 1 and air unit 1.and mcems ambulance 4 and on its first call ambulance 9.and mass casulty bus 1.we useuly dont use that type of ems unit on these calls but considering its getting hot out there these busses carry large quanteties of water.
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  July 15, 2013
Quoting Harrison McNeill Adam, to avoid all of this, just watch some firefighting training videos on YouTube or read some stuff on Firehouse.com. You'll learn some stuff and avoid the conflict.
thank you.
  July 14, 2013
Adam, to avoid all of this, just watch some firefighting training videos on YouTube or read some stuff on Firehouse.com. You'll learn some stuff and avoid the conflict.
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  June 29, 2013
Quoting BrickCity101 11 I've seen. The comments didn't seem all that bad but again there was chatter about it. I agree with Michelle. These things don't have to be perfect.
i agree.
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  June 29, 2013
Quoting BrickCity101 11 Guys, this is getting a little ridiculous. Yes, I do agree that the incident definitly would've been more realistic if Adam had used all the proper firefighting gear and methods but arguing like this over a incident contiuously is ridiculous.
i agree you see what i have to put up with!(on eb)
  June 29, 2013
Guys, this is getting a little ridiculous. Yes, I do agree that the incident definitly would've been more realistic if Adam had used all the proper firefighting gear and methods but arguing like this over a incident contiuously is ridiculous.
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  June 29, 2013
Quoting Michelle N they're legos, we don't have to be perfect
im with her:)
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  June 29, 2013
they're legos, we don't have to be perfect
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  June 29, 2013
Quoting Martijn Meijdam Your department has the latest info, but does things different? Yup, its a mess, maybe you should ask Grants Pass Rural FD for tips. And I'll send a rig to your city, to participate in the funeral processions.
really really funeral? thats a nice thing to say!(sarchasam)
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  June 27, 2013
Quoting Dalton Stender After looking at this again, I would have to agree with Martijn and ID-1X. My dad has been a fire officer for 11 years and since I'm 14, I can hang out at the fire house and observe things and listen in on meetings. Going into the fire, you have some very important equipment with you. Your air tank, your air mask, your gloves, an ax, a halogen bar, and a thermal imager camera. The first firefighter into the building is usually going to carry a thermal imager camera because he is going to be looking for other hotspots and trapped people. After the fire is confermed extinguished, the firefighters go in and tear out any materials that could be a fire hazard. That's what I've seen happen from my dad's fire house.
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  June 27, 2013
After looking at this again, I would have to agree with Martijn and ID-1X. My dad has been a fire officer for 11 years and since I'm 14, I can hang out at the fire house and observe things and listen in on meetings. Going into the fire, you have some very important equipment with you. Your air tank, your air mask, your gloves, an ax, a halogen bar, and a thermal imager camera. The first firefighter into the building is usually going to carry a thermal imager camera because he is going to be looking for other hotspots and trapped people. After the fire is confermed extinguished, the firefighters go in and tear out any materials that could be a fire hazard. That's what I've seen happen from my dad's fire house.
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  June 27, 2013
Quoting Martijn Meijdam Okay, and what is that supposed to mean, without me? I'm giving you real advise, I'm a firefighter for 7 years now, and I just gave you some tips to improve your story, and make it even better, but if you want to act like a know it all, be my guest. And thermal cameras detect heat sources from 100 meters away, so your firefighters could be at a safe distance. And on the 1st fire your crews rescued a squatter, so there goes your whole so no one can go in there talk right out the window, 1 firefighter would have gotten injured? FYI firefighters work in teams, so that would be 2 firefighters at risk, I hate to say it, but your dept is bit of a mess aint it? So learn some standard operating procedures before mouthing off to me.
excuse me? we have been taking the apropriate action needed in a fire we do have thermal censors and yes we have been doing this a long time without you our department is up to date on lastest fire info. and our department does things in a diffrent way.and weve maintainted that we were still on the scence with 3 well albled units on standby they where clearded to leave but the fire marshal was there along with our fire chief who called us back and by the time we got back its what you see here.so we are denying our department is a "mess" our department is well organized the county witch we asked to come and check us checked and double checked and passed us our town runs a clean operation.
  June 27, 2013
Okay, and what is that supposed to mean, without me? I'm giving you real advise, I'm a firefighter for 7 years now, and I just gave you some tips to improve your story, and make it even better, but if you want to act like a know it all, be my guest. And thermal cameras detect heat sources from 100 meters away, so your firefighters could be at a safe distance. And on the 1st fire your crews rescued a squatter, so there goes your whole so no one can go in there talk right out the window, and 1 firefighter would have gotten injured? FYI firefighters work in teams, so that would be 2 firefighters at risk, I hate to say it, but your dept is bit of a mess aint it? So learn some standard operating procedures before mouthing off to me.
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  June 18, 2013
Quoting Martijn Meijdam From another professional standpoint, as ID-1X explained, firefighters do overhaul for a reason,they literaly scrape the building clean, tearing down wallpaper, breaking out wooden floors, untill there is really nothing that can ignight,and if they find a hotspot, or heat in one of the load bearing members, they douse it untill its cool, or they call in demolition experts to tear down the structure right away. If it was a used structure, there would be different methods, but for a abandoned building, they either let it burn down in a controlled way, or they scrape the building clean when the fire is out, so in my point of view, I have to agree with ID-1X, and wonder why neither your firecrews and the command unit crew took the time to go over the building with a thermal camera, and for the wearther conditions, thats a load of BS, 80'degree weather is far too weak to reignight a fire or evaporate the water in mere minutes, especially after the building was hosed down with thousands gallons of water, if in this situation the fire did flare up, it had to be because there was a forgotten hotspot somewhere. But I have to give you credit for the REHAB part, that is pretty good.
thank you and i understand but weve been doing this a long time without you each incident is a learning point for us so we will know what to expect next time.and as i mentioned some of our units 3 of our units were still there and ready to clear out the building was too damaged to check.and considering its a top floor building the floor was at risk of falling and one of our firemen would have gotten injured!and another thing the building was condemed unsafe before the fires so no one can go in there only the garage is safe enough to examine.
  June 18, 2013
From another professional standpoint, as ID-1X explained, firefighters do overhaul for a reason,they literaly scrape the building clean, tearing down wallpaper, breaking out wooden floors, untill there is really nothing that can ignight,and if they find a hotspot, or heat in one of the load bearing members, they douse it untill its cool, or they call in demolition experts to tear down the structure right away. If it was a used structure, there would be different methods, but for a abandoned building, they either let it burn down in a controlled way, or they scrape the building clean when the fire is out, so in my point of view, I have to agree with ID-1X, and wonder why neither your firecrews and the command unit crew took the time to go over the building with a thermal camera, and for the wearther conditions, thats a load of BS, 80'degree weather is far too weak to reignight a fire or evaporate the water in mere minutes, especially after the building was hosed down with thousands gallons of water, if in this situation the fire did flare up, it had to be because there was a forgotten hotspot somewhere. But I have to give you credit for the REHAB part, that is pretty good.
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  June 18, 2013
Quoting ID-1 X I must say from a professional stand point, sounds like your department didn't properly execute the "O" in RECEOV/S! Strange, with so many units on scene for such a small structure you would expect all the hot spots were successfully extinguished.
if tempeture conditions are right and knowing the 80' degree weather weve been having the water will evaperate.and 3 of our units were left and ready to leave when we got called back.
  June 18, 2013
I must say from a professional stand point, sounds like your department didn't properly execute the "O" in RECEOV/S! Strange, with so many units on scene for such a small structure you would expect all the hot spots were successfully extinguished.
 
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