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About this creation
So, I decided to change gears for a build or two. Had a pretty good haul this past Christmas and got some pieces that I’ve been waiting for to try something like this. Now that I have them, I gave it a shot. I considered this an experimental build from the start, and all things considered, I am actually very pleased with what I accomplished. Please bear in mind that I said that last line.

The whole idea at the beginning was just to see if I could pull a figure off. What I accomplished was just the simple realization that with a little determination, I can build a high quality figure. Now that I’ve said that, I am also going to say that I consider this build mostly a failure. Now, I really appreciated the support that I received for my Classic Space failure, but based on that, I feel that I should explain how I define failure in terms of LEGO or any other form of art.

The trail to artistic discovery rarely comes pre-blazed, and is always littered with failure. Failure is not defeat. It is just an unsuccessful attempt. Despite the fact that I consider this MOSTLY a failure, I have discovered quite a bit about this genre. I will make the legs longer next time. I will pay more attention to the accumulating weight of the bricks as I go. I will not focus on fitting a fig in the next one. This figure has a lot of posability potential, but ultimately he is not. I would like to show you some other poses, but unfortunately it is an exhausting task of putting him into my desired pose, then picking up and reattaching all the pieces that fell off in the attempt. Then picking him back up, (because he most likely fell over), and trying the pose again. The majority of the poses that I tried ended up being impossible, and the others that worked were…awkward-looking. So I offer only this one pose. And this one pose has to be exactly like this for weight distribution because if I drop his rifle arm to his side, he falls backward.

Now that I’ve said all that, I will also say that I like the joint connections that I used on this. The frame is largely my design, but I took a few hints from the efforts of Chris Roach. Thanks for being a genius, Chris. These connections allow for a lot of weight to be stacked on, and have me thinking about my Armageddon Walker again. I also want to mention that I have gained a whole new respect for builders like Chris, Zach Sweigart, (who has regretfully been away from MP for some time now), MortalSwordsman, CCY 8086, and Mike Nieves, who make this genre look simple. I discovered that it most certainly is not.

So, provided that the ever present possibility of a flash of inspiration doesn’t strike on my way back to my living room, I am going back to the drawing board on this build, and hopefully I will soon have another figure to show off. For now, though, I present evidence of progress. This is Maximus.

















Here's a look at my attempt to get a fig in this robot. He looks a little smashed in there, and you will also notice that I have to detach the chest plate entirely to expose him. It originally swung out pretty well, but one readjustment rendered that mechanism useless.





A couple looks at his weapon. Very basic, but I like the shape.






Comments

 I like it 
  July 10, 2013
This is pretty awesome for a first attempt at a mech! Heck, it's pretty awesome for a seasoned mech builder. I'm absolutely in love with the legs and feet, in particular. Great color usage, as well.
 I like it 
  April 29, 2013
Everything on this looks very well designed. Nice design and great color scheme as well! Thanks for the comment :)
 I like it 
  April 1, 2013
Well done! Excellent shaping all around. I like how you did that gun. :)
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  February 12, 2013
Quoting Jon B Nicely done Tim, and props for trying what I consider to be a really tough genre. You can't consider this a failure at all really - it looks great, and you've learned a lot methinks! I hear you re. bits falling off during posing/photographing, no way I'm trying a poseable figure, spaceships are bad enough! Looking forward to seeing your next one!
Thanks for the props, Jon. This is not as tough as I thought it was. My real drawback is that I always try to build larger than is probably wise. I just want to push the limit of what the medium can do, or rather, what it CAN'T do. That way, if you draw it back just a tad, you're maximizing the capability. I must say, Jon, you're one of the most talented builders I've ever seen, and to see your take on a robot warrior like this...the thought gives me chills.
 I made it 
  January 30, 2013
Quoting matt rowntree Excellent observation and rebut! I concede, with an honest smile of pleasure, that you are absolutely correct. The notion of "failure" as a failing is, as this very sentence illustrates, a simple misconception of an inadequate language. Perhaps the idea of "fluidity" may be more appropriate. Where failure and success are of equal stature and nothing more than a learning, or evolutionary, device. Failure IS an option, defeat is not. The fearless notion you present is admirable and evident in all your MOCs. It is a truly wonderful trait I wish more people had. It is essentially what drives all of us to create relentlessly. And why I, like many others, have perpetual/never ending/life intruding/mind splintering/wonderfully frustrating WIPs. This conversation is something I absolutely live for and tend to get rather wordy about #I apologize#. I hope others will contribute as well. I am honored by your astute response and hope to further engage you regarding this. That said, I must ask humbly for leiniency, for I have never posted a MOC of my own as yet. I hope that without examples to compare, contrast, critique, deconstruct, or otherwise comment on does not exclude me from the dialogue. I am a newbie and hope that I have not overstepped my bounds #street cred, you know#. Thank you, it is a great pleasure joining in and, hopefully, somehow contributing. Touche' my friend, I think this is a wonderful start to the year!
I'm glad you got to see the comment before I deleted it, then. This comment was misunderstood as a negative attack at you, so I deleted it from the page, because I believe in speaking my mind, but I don't want to anger people, #you know, if it isn't my intention#. As this comment was addressing you, it's a relief that you saw it as frindly banter and not as retaliation. Can't wait to see when one of your WIPs comes to fruition.
 I like it 
  January 30, 2013
I do not care what other people may say and/or think about this, but this is awesome. It looks amazing. Great work!
 I made it 
  January 29, 2013
Quoting Aron Chaudiere I love your color scheme, weapon design, and basic design for the mech. I gave you a rating of three because it looks great but I wholeheartedly understand the issues you had. I have never had a successful mech build myself. They either turn out great looking but too heavy and bulky to articulate or they are skimpy and lame looking but easily pose-able. This is however a great ascetic design to build a better model from next time. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Aron. Glad you like it. Hope you enjoy my current project when I get it posted.
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  January 29, 2013
Quoting kaeleb appleyard great build looks deadly
Thanks, Kaeleb!
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  January 29, 2013
Quoting Rabid Goldfish Very nicely made. Good shape and form and the coloration suits it well. I wholeheartedly agree with your view about success and failure. I would not deem this a failure however. ^Blub^
Thanks for the compliment, Goldfish. I have such respect for your skills, so I'm glad you approve of my efforts here.
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  January 29, 2013
Quoting Garry King A very wicked looking Mech warrior you have constructed. Excellent detailing all around with out going overboard. Great work. Keep it up.
Thanks, Garry. I'm always interested to hear what you have to say about my works. Any chance we may see you try something like this?
 I made it 
  January 29, 2013
Quoting Matthew Chang Mr. Tim, I find it absolutely preposterous that you call this amazing MOC a failure. Actually, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought: "My gosh, who made that? That's incredible!" I like the greebled feet and legs, and that jetpack looks quite excellent! And I am still trying to find out how you always get that minifig inside the cockpit. You must share your secrets with me some time. He looks really nice and comfy in there, yet the exterior of your robot does not appear bulky or awkward.
I use failure in as endearing a manner as possible. Not surprised that this wasn't recognizable as my work. Kind of out of my comfort zone. But, then again, my comfort zone isn't large enough, so maybe this will expand it a little. Thanks for the compliment, Matthew.
 I like it 
  January 29, 2013
Nicely done Tim, and props for trying what I consider to be a really tough genre. You can't consider this a failure at all really - it looks great, and you've learned a lot methinks! I hear you re. bits falling off during posing/photographing, no way I'm trying a poseable figure, spaceships are bad enough! Looking forward to seeing your next one!
 I like it 
  January 28, 2013
I like the old school blocky look you went with here. It makes the mech look more realistic and I've always been a fan of the one eye look myself. Can't wait to where you go this line.
Tim C
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Chris Melby
  January 27, 2013
Dude, checked back, saw the awesome drama that is happening here, and deleted the WIP comment. I had a great idea for a hip joint, but I don't want to interrupt the "day time soap". Maybe take a P to the rozac and chill it out, and plan the next build..... Peace Z
  January 27, 2013
Excellent observation and rebut! I concede, with an honest smile of pleasure, that you are absolutely correct. The notion of "failure" as a failing is, as this very sentence illustrates, a simple misconception of an inadequate language. Perhaps the idea of "fluidity" may be more appropriate. Where failure and success are of equal stature and nothing more than a learning, or evolutionary, device. Failure IS an option, defeat is not. The fearless notion you present is admirable and evident in all your MOCs. It is a truly wonderful trait I wish more people had. It is essentially what drives all of us to create relentlessly. And why I, like many others, have perpetual/never ending/life intruding/mind splintering/wonderfully frustrating WIPs. This conversation is something I absolutely live for and tend to get rather wordy about (I apologize). I hope others will contribute as well. I am honored by your astute response and hope to further engage you regarding this. That said, I must ask humbly for leiniency, for I have never posted a MOC of my own as yet. I hope that without examples to compare, contrast, critique, deconstruct, or otherwise comment on does not exclude me from the dialogue. I am a newbie and hope that I have not overstepped my bounds (street cred, you know). Thank you, it is a great pleasure joining in and, hopefully, somehow contributing. Touche' my friend, I think this is a wonderful start to the year!
  January 27, 2013
I love your color scheme, weapon design, and basic design for the mech. I gave you a rating of three because it looks great but I wholeheartedly understand the issues you had. I have never had a successful mech build myself. They either turn out great looking but too heavy and bulky to articulate or they are skimpy and lame looking but easily pose-able. This is however a great ascetic design to build a better model from next time. Keep up the good work!
  January 27, 2013
great build looks deadly
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  January 27, 2013
Quoting Chris Melby Dude, checked back, saw the awesome drama that is happening here, and deleted the WIP comment. I had a great idea for a hip joint, but I don't want to interrupt the "day time soap". Maybe take a P to the rozac and chill it out, and plan the next build..... Peace Z
Hey, Chris. Well, I seem to be developing a nasty habit of making easily misunderstood statements. I need to pay more attention to what I'm saying and bear in mind that nobody can see me smile while I'm posting my comments. I am a laid-back guy and have very little temper and the only time I have let that show here is when people were suggesting that I made my Armageddon Walker anatomically inappropriate. My comment was not meant to be hostile in the least, more to just have a bit of fun banter about wordage, but reading it back, I can see how it may look like I was lashing out at Matthew, whatever my intentions may have been. I genuinely apologize for giving you the impression that I was introducing some negative vibes to my list of comments here, and I have since deleted it. I sent you an email yesterday before I made my ill-conceived comment, and if the offer still stands, I would love to see that hip joint;)
 I like it 
  January 27, 2013
Very nicely made. Good shape and form and the coloration suits it well. I wholeheartedly agree with your view about success and failure. I would not deem this a failure however. ^Blub^
 I like it 
  January 26, 2013
A very wicked looking Mech warrior you have constructed. Excellent detailing all around with out going overboard. Great work. Keep it up.
 I made it 
  January 26, 2013
Quoting Mister Lego ~ I really like the shoulders. The chunkiness makes him look aggressive! The colorscheme is also very well thought up :)
Thanks, Mister! The shoulders are my favorite part of this build. I don't think I'm capable of a build that doesn't have a little chunkiness;)
 I like it 
  January 26, 2013
Mr. Tim, I find it absolutely preposterous that you call this amazing MOC a failure. Actually, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought: "My gosh, who made that? That's incredible!" I like the greebled feet and legs, and that jetpack looks quite excellent! And I am still trying to find out how you always get that minifig inside the cockpit. You must share your secrets with me some time. He looks really nice and comfy in there, yet the exterior of your robot does not appear bulky or awkward.
Tim C
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Chris Melby
  January 25, 2013
Nice, however Tim, although I think your list of tributes is overcooked: Let me explain: I myself have dabbled with robots, and in fact have one in the works as we speak, I have researched them to the ends of the earth, and have realized, everything has been done, twice. So, with that said, to even remotely kick out an original mech these days is solely attributed to the builder, and as I share your admiration for these other builders, this one was all you. NICE one Tim, Z
  January 25, 2013
Great figure overall. He looks impressive and stout in spite of the poseability issues. Proportionally speaking, his stance seems spot on. As for your definition of failure, I believe that you, like ALL artists, are encumbered by the inadequacies of the English language. Failure is so overused that it has developed only bad connotations. As with all Art, the most important concept is the process: What gets YOU from point A to point B. So, perhaps failure isn't complete in its description due to its extra baggage. Evolution or experimentation may be more appropriate. Either one, it is progress; and, that is always a wonderful thing. We will always be our own worst critics. By the way, I think we're all honest here, if it's a piece of junk, we'll let you know. ;)
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
I really like the shoulders. The chunkiness makes him look aggressive! The colorscheme is also very well thought up :)
 I made it 
  January 25, 2013
Quoting M<0><0>DSWIM ! Pretty awesome! I love the jetpack design and the legs, especially. I think the torso may be a brick or two too tall, though. I know it's hard to cram a minifig in there (check out my mobile suits).
I have exhaustively gone over your work, good sir. You are one of this site's masters. The Star Wars/Gundam marriage is some of my favorite stuff on this site...period. They are two of my favorite things, so combining them? Money. Glad you like my first attempt here. We'll see what's next.
 I made it 
  January 25, 2013
Quoting Chris Melby Nice, however Tim, although I think your list of tributes is overcooked: Let me explain: I myself have dabbled with robots, and in fact have one in the works as we speak, I have researched them to the ends of the earth, and have realized, everything has been done, twice. So, with that said, to even remotely kick out an original mech these days is solely attributed to the builder, and as I share your admiration for these other builders, this one was all you. NICE one Tim, Z
If there's one thing I do well, Chris, it's overcooking statements;) And thanks for the encouragement, but I think you misunderstand me. These builders were mentioned because of my utmost respect for their abilities, and they were just the first that came to mind. There are many that I look to for inspiration. You among them. However, I sat for hours staring at this thing and picking it up when it fell and watching pieces fall off, having no idea why but having to fix it anyway. I tore out chunks of my hair, (metaphorically, of course), in frustration enough to say, rest assured, I take full credit for this guy.
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
You are very welcome Tim. I urge you to check out Moodswim's stuff too. He was one of my original inspirations along with Chris Roach. As you implied I like my figures to be flexible so I sacrifice an element of aesthetics to achieve this. However more recently I have also started to build more statuesque figures, but once you remove a few pieces you can reposition the frame. T joints and/or ball joints will improve posing but they do not carry weight well (especially bigger figures like this). It took me several builds to get my frames right, and I am still tweaking with ever new build. I have no doubt that you will achieve this soon and become the next master figure builder. This moc proves you are pretty much there already. :D. Thank you so much for the mention I am honoured.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting David Roberts Wow! This really is a change of gear for you. I like how you've managed to include a mini-fig in the middle too. The poseability looks good and the mix of blue and grey works very well too!
It's still sci-fi, but definitely out of my comfort zone. Which is good, because I'm trying to broaden my comfort zone. Posability, good...balance, bad. Expect more of these.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Devid VII I really like the shoulders :)
Yeah, that's my favorite part too. Probably will be a focus for future builds. Thanks for the compliment.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Jesse Long I like it, Tim C. This mecha is more Armored Core than Transformers, Tenga Toppan Gurenn Lagaan, Aquarion, Neon Genesis Evangelion, or Gundam, though, but that's not a bad thing, either. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Jesse. Glad you like it. Transformers was not what I was going for. I have a lot of respect for the guys that can pull this off, but I would rather build an aesthetically pleasing robot without having to wrestle with it to be something else as well. I was trying to marry my own style with, specifically, Gundam on this one, so I'm glad that you saw the similarities therein.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting El Barto ! Massive! All sorts of cool design features on this beast, especially around the shoulders. Wicked!!
Thanks, Barto! Glad you like it. You hit my favorite area on this guy. The shoulders were fun and strangely one of the easiest areas to pull off.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Cody G Excellent build! I love the color scheme! You should build mechs more often!
Thanks, Cody. Building more mechs is definitely on my to-do list.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Chris Roach for a first shot this is much better than a "fail" in fact it is better than most MOCCERs can do with a good bit of practice. It's a great looking MOC and mech! Good proportions and details. PS thx for the plug too and you too DAS!
Thanks, Chris. It means a lot to me that you like it. You are one of this site's master figure builders. Hopefully I can work through this guy's problem areas and come out with something a little closer to your level next time.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Elk Guard Looks great, very original!
Thanks. I have no interest in replicas, at this point, so hearing that it has an original look spurs me on.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting David Alexander Smith This is great on many levels. The modelling of the figure and the face in particular is right; a nice mix of transformer and Japanese mech. The single eye head is always a winner in my book. The issues you describe are very familiar. Building these type of things is harder tan it looks, and if articulation is a requirement, you need to focus on a skeleton first, and then detail on top. Chris Roach is a master of this technique. On my Ultra a retro Robot, I had all these problems, and sort of fudged it with over-sized feet. All this said, I know the next attempt is going to be amazing.
The next attempt is progressing nicely through the contemplative stage. Tomorrow will be my next chance to sit down and get something going. My first stage on this mech was the skeleton and for the most part it handles the weight well. The problem is the balance. I'm going to have the problem of wanting to build high detail, with plenty of accessories, but not to overbalance one way or the other. Thanks for the vote of confidence, David. I hope my next one meets approval.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting MortalSwordsman . Lovely work Tim. I totally understand your comments and frustrations. It is great to see another 'figure builder' entering the arena. Your quest to find the best joints for the job has only just begun. The waist joint is the ultimate in my opinion - it allows for greater movement and dynamic poses. Good luck my friend, I can't wait for more. Be warned figure building is very addictive. Love the colours and his shoulders.
I'm already addicted, Joe. The dynamic poses are what I would really like to get into. My problem is I like to build big to satisfy my need for high detail. I've been thinking about building the frame of one and figuring out the pose first, then building the rest around him. It would be a bit of a statue, but it's a thought. Glad you like my first step here, means a lot coming from someone who puts out such high quality figures.
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  January 25, 2013
Quoting Westin Ou AWESOME. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED. AWESOME. PLAIN AWESOME.
Thanks, Westin. Glad you like it.
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  January 25, 2013
Pretty awesome! I love the jetpack design and the legs, especially. I think the torso may be a brick or two too tall, though. I know it's hard to cram a minifig in there (check out my mobile suits).
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
Wow! This really is a change of gear for you. I like how you've managed to include a mini-fig in the middle too. The poseability looks good and the mix of blue and grey works very well too!
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
I really like the shoulders :)
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
I like it, Tim C. This mecha is more Armored Core than Transformers, Tenga Toppan Gurenn Lagaan, Aquarion, Neon Genesis Evangelion, or Gundam, though, but that's not a bad thing, either. Keep up the good work.
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
Massive! All sorts of cool design features on this beast, especially around the shoulders. Wicked!!
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
Excellent build! I love the color scheme! You should build mechs more often!
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  January 25, 2013
for a first shot this is much better than a "fail" in fact it is better than most MOCCERs can do with a good bit of practice. It's a great looking MOC and mech! Good proportions and details. PS thx for the plug too and you too DAS!
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
Looks great, very original!
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
This is great on many levels. The modelling of the figure and the face in particular is right; a nice mix of transformer and Japanese mech. The single eye head is always a winner in my book. The issues you describe are very familiar. Building these type of things is harder tan it looks, and if articulation is a requirement, you need to focus on a skeleton first, and then detail on top. Chris Roach is a master of this technique. On my Ultra a retro Robot, I had all these problems, and sort of fudged it with over-sized feet. All this said, I know the next attempt is going to be amazing.
 I like it 
  January 25, 2013
Lovely work Tim. I totally understand your comments and frustrations. It is great to see another 'figure builder' entering the arena. Your quest to find the best joints for the job has only just begun. The waist joint is the ultimate in my opinion - it allows for greater movement and dynamic poses. Good luck my friend, I can't wait for more. Be warned figure building is very addictive. Love the colours and his shoulders.
 I like it 
  January 24, 2013
AWESOME. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED. AWESOME. PLAIN AWESOME.
 
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