It’s time for another Secret Santa Quiz. Have a look at the beautiful present I received and try to find out who my Secret Santa is.
I took the liberty and created a little story around my present.
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thank you for being so polite, and I hop I didn't come across as rude. I do agree that homosexuality is part of human nature. I also agree that homosexuality is not hurtful, and realize my logic was flawed. Thanks for pointing that out. I do indeed believe that it is wrong, but your creations are fantastic, regardless of your sexuality. I felt obligated to comment on this issue, but I now have stated my case. Future comments will be related to LEGO. |
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March 2, 2013 |
Quoting Hudson B.
Okay.
I understand where you're coming from on the "I'm old, your new" section of your comment. I was not intending to lecture you, or act like I was better than you in any way. I apologize if it came across as rude or insulting. I do, however, view this topic as highly controversial. It is where I come from. As for the part about where I draw the line, you raise an excellent point. I admit readily that I am unsure myself where I would draw the line. Matters of religion are fine in my opinion, as long as no insult is meant by them. However, I do not view discussion or mention of homosexuality/bisexuality as something which belongs on a LEGO site. I respectfully disagree with you on this point. I am all for freedom and human rights. But all things should not be tolerated. (I do not want to offend you with the following comments, but I fell obligated to say the following. If you are greatly aggravated, do not read the rest of this comment.) For instance: Serial killers. Serial killing should not be tolerated. Stealing. Stealing should not be tolerated. Torture. Torture should not be tolerated. The fact is: Things which are morally wrong should not be tolerated. And Homosexuality is wrong. I'm sorry if you disagree, and I assure you that I have nothing against you, and mean no disrespect. I am simply stating what I believe to be right. You have a right to believe differently, and I believe that you have a right to post this MOC. I just view it as offensive, as it promotes something which I believe to be morally wrong.
I wish you the best of luck.
Actions or behaviours that are hurtful are wrong indeed and shouldn't be tolerated neither here nor anywhere else. Homosexuality isn’t hurtful and doesn’t fall in this category. Furthermore it’s not a chosen lifestyle but a biological default nobody can change. Homosexuality is part of nature, otherwise it wouldn’t exist. If you really think that homosexuality is wrong, then I’m very, very sorry for you. Maybe you’ll arrive in the 21st century one day, like the rest of us. Until then, it might be better for you to stay away from my MOCs, because I’ll definitely post more like this. |
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Okay.
I understand where you're coming from on the "I'm old, your new" section of your comment. I was not intending to lecture you, or act like I was better than you in any way. I apologize if it came across as rude or insulting. I do, however, view this topic as highly controversial. It is where I come from. As for the part about where I draw the line, you raise an excellent point. I admit readily that I am unsure myself where I would draw the line. Matters of religion are fine in my opinion, as long as no insult is meant by them. However, I do not view discussion or mention of homosexuality/bisexuality as something which belongs on a LEGO site. I respectfully disagree with you on this point. I am all for freedom and human rights. But all things should not be tolerated. (I do not want to offend you with the following comments, but I fell obligated to say the following. If you are greatly aggravated, do not read the rest of this comment.) For instance: Serial killers. Serial killing should not be tolerated. Stealing. Stealing should not be tolerated. Torture. Torture should not be tolerated. The fact is: Things which are morally wrong should not be tolerated. And Homosexuality is wrong. I'm sorry if you disagree, and I assure you that I have nothing against you, and mean no disrespect. I am simply stating what I believe to be right. You have a right to believe differently, and I believe that you have a right to post this MOC. I just view it as offensive, as it promotes something which I believe to be morally wrong.
I wish you the best of luck. |
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Upon further consideration, I realized that I worded my last comment poorly, and also realized that my logic was deeply flawed. Allow me to correct myself: I agree with the message of tolerance in this MOC, as coexistence is vital for everyday life. Please do not misinterpret my comments as rude, arrogant, or hateful, as I intend none of these things. |
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February 28, 2013 |
Quoting Brick Savage
... And I must say its nice to find a deity who doesn't promote hate but promotes love and understanding. Three cheers for Cthulhu!!!
Thank you, Chris. I'm sure Cthulhu appreciates your comment. I certainly do. |
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February 28, 2013 |
I can't believe I didn't see this before. What a great build and story. And I must say its nice to find a deity who doesn't promote hate but promotes love and understanding. Three cheers for Cthulhu!!! |
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February 28, 2013 |
Quoting Hudson B.
First off, it's an interesting build.
However:
Regardless of whether or not I agree with this, I will say that MoCpages is not the place to introduce, promote, or spark this type of debate. This is a site intended for recreational purposes, and is not an appropriate place to introduce controversial topics, such as this one. You can agree with this message: that's your decision. However, that does not mean that taking a relatively peaceful place, such as this one, and sparking a highly controversial debate is okay. If you must promote a g-a.y agenda, please use more appropriate place.
Leg Godt,
Hud
Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry to say that I disagree with most of what you have written. ----- First, I think it is a bit strange, if not even a bit presumptuous, for somebody who is absolutely new to MOCpages, without any creations, favourite builders or groups, to lecture somebody who is active here on the pages for almost 3 years now.
----- Second, this is neither a controversial, nor a highly controversial topic – I merely stated a non-hurtful opinion on my page. I don’t force anybody to come here.
----- Third, I have the feeling that you didn’t read the text well enough. Otherwise you would have realised that I didn’t promote a g-a.y agenda, but was just asking for more general tolerance in the world. As an example, I chose the g-a.y topic, since I’m concerned personally and, as a result, knew what I was writing about.
----- Fourth, let’s say I follow your request and give up my right of free expression. Then I’d like to know where you draw the line? For example, there are many good people here on MOCpages who accentuate and talk a lot about their religion. Following your definition, religion is also a highly controversial topic. Do you also want them to stop? |
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First off, it's an interesting build.
However:
Regardless of whether or not I agree with this, I will say that MoCpages is not the place to introduce, promote, or spark this type of debate. This is a site intended for recreational purposes, and is not an appropriate place to introduce controversial topics, such as this one. You can agree with this message: that's your decision. However, that does not mean that taking a relatively peaceful place, such as this one, and sparking a highly controversial debate is okay. If you must promote a gay agenda, please use more appropriate place.
Leg Godt,
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December 27, 2012 |
Wow, I'm honored that everyone thought I was Hans. Cool stuff. |
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December 27, 2012 |
Love the build and story! I'm greatly disappointed with the people who don't agree with the message, they should at least respect you by keeping their opinions to themselves. |
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December 25, 2012 |
Gio.~H |
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Nice Moc. I do not agree with the message at the end, however. |
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December 24, 2012 |
This looks to be built by Han. |
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December 24, 2012 |
Merry Christmas Xeno :). Peace and equality to all. Love this creation - it has a darkness that only Han could produce. |
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December 23, 2012 |
This is a wonderful creation and message, but I would like to reply to Tim C about saying he is being hypocritical for agreeing with this and denouncing those that disagree; this is promoting a message of peace and tolerance, which, last time I checked, does not offend any directly, while disagreeing with the acceptance of peace and tolerance is quite wrong, and is sure to offend many that suffer from intolerance.This is no common matter of 'Coke vs. Pepsi' opinion, so really only those that disagree are at fault. |
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December 23, 2012 |
Quoting Tim C
I must say, when I returned to look over this excellent piece of building genius, I found myself a little angered by the comments of some people and how they "disagree with the message." You know, the message of how people should be free to be who they are. I felt that this should not be made out to be a political platform, where we should judge others for the lives they lead, but rather respect what one person can do with a pile of plastic bricks. But then I realized that I am no better by agreeing with it. How can I feel justified to agree with what someone says, yet feel that others should keep their personal beliefs to themselves. "What a hypocrite!" I yell at the mirror. I deeply respect your decision to make yourself vulnerably known to the many builders on this site. If it's something you've done before, I haven't, to date, come across it. Kudos, sir, to your bravery. (That, by the way, is neither agreeing nor disagreeing with the message). That being said, I would, therefore, like to retract my earlier statement and simply say, "Gee, what a nice MOC. It would seem to me that there should be some message to go with it, but I'll be a monkey's uncle if I can find one."
Tim, thank you for your very thoughtful comment. This quote comes to my mind: “Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters.” Everybody shall think or believe in whatever he or she likes, as long as they don’t hurt others, of course. The message here is not “Hey, I’m g-a.y!”, it’s simply “Be tolerant.” Simple as that. As a result, it is identical to what you just wrote. Nobody should keep their personal beliefs to him- or herself, because asking them to do would not be being tolerant. ---- Also, nobody should judge others for anything that is not their fault. I didn’t choose to be g-a.y, just like I didn’t choose my eye colour or my shoe size. It’s a fixed part of me and I have to live with it. And I’m doing quite well. I’ve had my coming out 14 years ago and it came to many people around me as a surprise, cause I’m not very female-like, but rather the opposite. Guess. Nobody cared. Nobody. Not my friends, not my family, not my co-workers. Not one single person. Thanks to my coming out, I traveled to the USA and I published 3 novels. I don’t feel vulnerable, but it’s kind of you being concerned. About 10 percent of mankind is homosexual, that is 700 million people. I’m definitely not the only one here on MOCpages. Thanks to bullying, the suicide rate among them is about 5 times higher compared to the one of heterosexuals. Maybe my example will help a few to deal with their lives a little bit better. It would be nice. |
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December 23, 2012 |
I must say, when I returned to look over this excellent piece of building genius, I found myself a little angered by the comments of some people and how they "disagree with the message." You know, the message of how people should be free to be who they are. I felt that this should not be made out to be a political platform, where we should judge others for the lives they lead, but rather respect what one person can do with a pile of plastic bricks. But then I realized that I am no better by agreeing with it. How can I feel justified to agree with what someone says, yet feel that others should keep their personal beliefs to themselves. "What a hypocrite!" I yell at the mirror. I deeply respect your decision to make yourself vulnerably known to the many builders on this site. If it's something you've done before, I haven't, to date, come across it. Kudos, sir, to your bravery. (That, by the way, is neither agreeing nor disagreeing with the message). That being said, I would, therefore, like to retract my earlier statement and simply say, "Gee, what a nice MOC. It would seem to me that there should be some message to go with it, but I'll be a monkey's uncle if I can find one." |
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December 22, 2012 |
Love the present agree with the message (you should build some political messages into your other builds or gifts) |
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December 21, 2012 |
although i dont agree, its not my problem.
I'll guess Hans |
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December 20, 2012 |
Yeap, we're all gonna be wrong... but I'll go with Hans as well here. ~ Chris. |
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December 20, 2012 |
I just love this time of year...it looks like Santa brought you an awesome vig, made by either Leda or Chris, so I'll go for Hans. No wait...sigh*, here we go again... |
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December 20, 2012 |
Hans or Tyler... but I go for Hans - pretty awesome, so or so! - K. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Great build, showing off a great present. I'm in full agreement regarding the message too. Merry Christmas. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Love the build and the moral! :D People really should just accept that,you know? :/ |
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December 20, 2012 |
Great chair! |
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December 20, 2012 |
Thanks to everybody for the kind comments so far. Work and other tasks didn't allow me to be very active here on MOCpages during the last months, but I'll try to become more involved again. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Quoting Flare .
Can't agree with the message you're trying to push in the end, but I think I'll agree with the others that it was Hans
The message is: "Don't be prejudiced, be open-minded instead." The fact that you don't agree says a lot about you. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Quoting John W.
"A mad Arab?" I do not appreciate your racism.
The so called "mad Arab" is Abdul Alhazred, which is nothing but an alias for the famous author Howard Phillips Lovecraft. It is also the fictional character who wrote the Necronomicon and, as a result, went mad. --- There is no racism involved. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Very nice. |
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December 20, 2012 |
Great story and a fitting present. To bring a new name to the board, maybe Phipson? |
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December 20, 2012 |
Cthulhu Santa, what a blessing. :P ... Nice build and a pretty good story also. :) |
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"A mad Arab?" I do not appreciate your racism. |
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Can't agree with the message you're trying to push in the end, but I think I'll agree with the others that it was Hans |
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December 19, 2012 |
lol! great concept, I had ideas for origins of santa, and that s very good one! the creator went as far as re-designing him, wich is beyond what I had imagined, bravo! superb piece! |
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December 19, 2012 |
When in doubt (which is just about always for me, when it comes to secret Santa), go with the popular flow! Hans? |
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December 19, 2012 |
I'd have to go for Hans. |
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December 19, 2012 |
I'm going to take a left turn and guess Stuart for reasons unknown, even to me. |
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December 19, 2012 |
Wow, somebody really knows you well! This is a really lovely creation: and it found a perfect home. I feel like it has the current theme of Tyler's work, but I'm going to stick with the trend and say Leda. |
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December 19, 2012 |
I see Hans in this beauty. |
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December 19, 2012 |
Not Leda... It doesn't have her artwork... Hans, perhaps? |
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the message is great, and i'm going to go with... Leda Kat. HA, Cthulu Claus! |
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December 19, 2012 |
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Heath. Excellent build and message! |
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December 19, 2012 |
Great message, couldn't agree more. It pains me to know that people will hate people for things they can't control, such as homosexuality. Cthulhu shall be my god now. He seems like a great guy. |
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December 19, 2012 |
That says Hans to me! Great work on the supporting builds! |
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December 19, 2012 |
Haha, that is just too awesome. I'm going with Leda. |
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December 19, 2012 |
boy would I love to get involved with this SECRET SANTA! |
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December 19, 2012 |
Giovanni. |
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December 19, 2012 |
Lovely creation! I vote Stuart. |
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December 19, 2012 |
Fantastic story, build, and message. I vote Stuart. |
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December 19, 2012 |
Great stuff. And I love the message, Mr. Xenomurphy. There are many people in my country as well as the rest of the world that could learn a thing or two from your Cthulhu's tolerance. It is our differences that make us beautiful. As to who sent you this, I feel confident that I recognize this excellent parts usage and slight touch of whimsy as the building genius of Leda Kat. I mean, Cthulhu Claus? Who else would come up with that? |
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December 19, 2012 |
Haha, cool story! This looks like the work of Dave Kaleta!!! Or Leda Kat. Pick one. Great gift to get though! |
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