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The Doomgiver WIP #5 (Aug-11)
About this creation
My final WIP before the Doomgiver is finished, I expect. Not too many pictures this time, I want to save centre page spreads of the completed ship until the end. By which time hopefully I'll have learned how to use a camera.

So I've been pretty busy building of late and finally finished the underside and flipped her over. I've been mostly working on the (angled) top plating and tiling. The angled plating has been a bit of a headache in trying to (smoothly) transition from flat plating at the front of the ship, to angled plating at the back. Lots of trial and error, but I am 95% happy with the results.

ďHow hard can this be?Ē I can imagine some of you will say. ďItís just an imperial star destroyer with a bit of the nose chopped out. Well yes, it looks like that, but no, itís entirely different.

The Doomgiver is essentially a large flat wedge plate (necessary for the pods that hang underneath) with a plate sloped top. An imperial star destroyer is sloped on the top and bottom, but in a different way. It slopes from the back to the nose (top and bottom) (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/2/27/ISD_TFU.jpg) and from the centre to the sides. So it's like four triangles joined together into a huge wedge.



On the other hand, a large part of the top of the Doomgiver slopes from the center, a line parallel to the underside, to either side of the ship, which also tapers to the bow (http://imperialbastion.ru/images/doomgiver-carrier.gif).



I first thought I could make a huge long wing, like the Imperial Star Destroyer, and tack it on to the flat top at an angle, but no, it sloped down to the bow so wasnít parallel to the top deck of the ship. So instead, the entire top sloping section is made up of 6 stud width plate combinations, hinges and the odd 1 x 6 plate to boost hinge height to give just the right angle so that the tiles tuck under the slopes which are parallel to the base.

Got it? Neither have I. Itís not perfect, but itís as near as and 95% happy is good enough for me.

Anyway, enough mathematics. Another major headache was the curved section mid-ship, which coincided with the angled plates. Lego is just too straight sometimes. Again, Iím pretty happy with how it transitions (By carefully shoving tiles up under the slopes)but if anyone else has a better idea, Iím very open to suggestions.



Here's an example of some of the things I am adding to the tiling of the ship. A Dark Bluish Gray thingy. Definitely will be the largest non-LBG structure mixed in with the plating. Not sure what it is, but I felt the LBG-ishness of the ship needs to be broken up with some 'colour'



I'll call it the Shield Generation Facility Thingy for now.

So whatís left to do?

1. Top side tiling, I have seriously underestimated the number of tiles I needed for this build. Actually I seriously underestimated the number of parts full stop. There are just over 7,000 studs on the topside to cover, Iím 50.17% (please see my sad sad sad tiling tracker) through the tiling process, and Iím very much out of 1 x 2 LBG. I'll be cutting it fine on 1 x 1 LBG and 2 x 2 LBG as well. 1 x 4 LBG left the building a long time ago.



Like Gordon Gekko said, green is good. Obviously I have extended that to red means tiles needed. Yes, very sad.

2. Greebling, the Dark Bluish Gray sides are ready for detailing, but Iím currently arguing with myself on how this should be done. Tiles, studs and grills only, or should I also throw in the odd phone, wrench, clip, bar, etc. Part of me says "It's a wrench you idiot!" and another part of me says "No, it's a power conduit converter matrix stupid!" About 2,350 studs to cover here...

This is the stern of the ship, I need to greeble inside before attaching the top plate and building up towards the top of the ship. I started greebling before stopping to argue with myself.



3. The top bit. This is also going to be tricky, going by this picture (http://imperialbastion.ru/images/doomgiver-carrier.gif), in so much that it could be quite easy to make it look ugly and sloppy. Once again, I think Iíve underestimated the parts needed, woo hoo... Iíll be holding off on the greebling until this is done. That picture also shows the flat nature of the ship.

I had an idea of how I was going to build this section, but today I've been using LDD to develop a few ideas before potentially changing the design.



Rubbish quality picture taken with my phone this morning. This is how the stern will play out eventually. The important part is integrating the DBG build (front & center) into the LBG stern. I want to make it 'organic' without harsh straight vertical edges. The right hand edge of the upper most LBG part in picture is very vertical and very straight at the moment because I built that part separately as a test. I'll be breaking up that edge with DBG once I can decide how best to build that part. We will see how it turns out but I have a good feeling about this.



DBG slopes in the centre of the LBG slopes will become LBG.

4. I need to re-tile the stand, Iíve robbed it blind of all tiles in an effort to tile around/under the slopes on the upper deck, which is now done as per the sad tiling chart.

5. Take pictures, post them on MOCPages, sit back and wait for the multi-trillion dollar offers to stream in, or the George Lucas lawsuit, whichever is sooner.

Question for you all, I was planning on two rows of slopes with a two plate thick DBG detail mixed in the middle, as per the first picture. Then I had the idea of putting in a Ďholeí midway through the section, see pictures below. Not sure what to call it, hanger bay? Toilet disposal facility? Anyway, I thought it might break up the monotony of slope after slope.

Here's the 'hole.'





So what do you all think? Hole or slopes? Comments welcome.

Shocker of a picture related to the comments on the hole.






Comments

 I like it 
  December 15, 2013
Wow, this is absolutely fantastic!
 I made it 
  March 27, 2012
Almost finished. I thought I had ordered enough parts on my last visit to Bricklink, but oh no, I can't count can I. This means the bridge is 75% done. Only two other things need completing then, and I have these parts on order or to hand. (hahahahaha, you fool...) 1. Looking at the first blurry picture with red bricks visible, the two 'wings' either side of the bridge, need the tops finishing off. 2. The base, I'm not going to re-tile it after robbing it, I've got something else in mind which could look quite nice. To be revealed later.
 I like it 
  March 3, 2012
Looking forward to see it finished
 I made it 
  March 3, 2012
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist Thought I'd stop by again and ask how progress is going. What part are you at now? (I just can't wait to see this finished!)
Can I cry on your shoulder? I've been through about 4 or 5 different "bridge" finishes. First one I realised was too big, but only once I'd finished it. Took me a while to build, but I ripped it off, broke it up and ignored it for a while. I also wasn't overly happy with the shape. I now believe I have something I will be happy with and I'm about 1/3 the way through building it. Ultimately though, I don't think I'll be 100% happy, is this big ship blues? :o( I've also removed one layer of slopes from the top side. I was never happy with a double layer of slopes and I couldn't find a way of breaking it up that satisfied me. It's a lower profile now and blends in a bit better I think. I had finished the tiling on the very top centre bit, but I have also taken that off. Looked a bit too flat, so I'm working on some features that will break it up a bit, including extending a sloping section that extends from the bridge. It'll all make sense once I've finally finished it and posted pictures, I hope...!
 I like it 
  January 28, 2012
Thought I'd stop by again and ask how progress is going. What part are you at now? (I just can't wait to see this finished!)
 I made it 
  December 10, 2011
Crikey. Well, the main tiling is 95% complete and all the greebling done. both of those have taken some time, or is I've just been lazy? Stern is assembled and now I'm building up towards the bridge.
 I like it 
  October 6, 2011
I don't know this ship's backstory, but it looks epic MAKE SOME FORCE UNLEASHED MOCS NEXT!
 I like it 
  September 13, 2011
YES ! Finally, somebody's making the Doomgiver... and doing a very impressive job of it, too ! I had a go at this ship once, when I was a lot younger, and short of many parts... didn't look very good lol I loved Jedi Knight II, and the Doomgiver levels were great - I wish you the best of luck with this ship, and can't wait to see it finished ! - Dan
 I like it 
  August 19, 2011
Wow. You've got to be the most technical guy I've ever...Met? No. Read?...I'll go with that - and it's awesome! Your text is very engaging and fun to read. Nevermind the ship, you're a straight-up engineer man! Let's see, theres the small-scale ship, auto CAD, graphs, charts...you name it! Seriously, very cool. But, to mind the ship, I'm not sure what to say about your questions. I do know Mr. Kelso has commented. That should be sufficient. Great work, man. About that $$ contract, I think the new space program could use a guy like you!
 I like it 
  August 18, 2011
very nice design, particuarly like your 'shield generator thingy', for some reason I thought the coloured lines on the first pic were just part of the model when I scrolled past them, silly me...
 I like it 
  August 17, 2011
HOOOOO this looks sooooo exciting !!!!! It start very very well !!!
 I made it 
  August 17, 2011
Quoting Mr. Black your killing me JH, im dieing to see the finished Moc. i think that the holes seperate the continuous slopes ad add nice details. you should defanitly make a Midi-Scale or Micro-Scale after the USC model
I had already thought of a micro-scale ship, it would be a lot easier than this monster!
 I made it 
  August 17, 2011
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist This is great! If you throw this into enough groups you'll be raking in the MOCies, possibly Best MOC! Personally, with the greebling I would use more than just tiles and vents; wrenches, lightsabers and other weird bricks look really good to me. Anyway, this looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it finished, good luck! (And may the Force be with you)
Ha! If they had a large ship MOC award, they'd have to make two categories to give the rest of us a chance. One for DBG builds and one for the rest of us. I've no doubt the Eye of Chaos will be a jaw dropper. Some of us have just chosen the wrong year to build! :o)
 I made it 
  August 17, 2011
Quoting Mark Kelso Looking terrific! Regarding your question: I like the notion of some dark bley detailing amidst the slopes, but the appearance of the "hole" feels a bit awkward to me (mostly due to the shape of the wedge elements). I'd be tempted to go with some dark bley detailing, but perhaps alter the appearance a bit from what you have now, eliminating the wedges, and include three or four small places along that section (instead of just one half way). Meanwhile, looking forward to seeing the finished piece! Great stuff!
TBH, I like the way it curves in, and the DBG 'grows' but I didn't like the gap at the top, the way the wedge slopes down. There are no bricks that will adequately just do the curve in for me though. I think they're probably a bit too long as well. I'm thinking more along the lines of the (poor quality) picture I've added at the end. A mixture of plates, tiles and studs that in a couple of places (and to some degree) spill out beyond the boundary of the slopes and up onto the top deck. Then build the LBG tiling around that.
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
your killing me JH, im dieing to see the finished Moc. i think that the holes seperate the continuous slopes ad add nice details. you should defanitly make a Midi-Scale or Micro-Scale after the USC model
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
Great ship man!!! I think that the idea of having the hole for a hangar is a great one.
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
I'm liking this very much, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final result.
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
look really detailed, and nice planning on how to do it , really great
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
This is great! If you throw this into enough groups you'll be raking in the MOCies, possibly Best MOC! Personally, with the greebling I would use more than just tiles and vents; wrenches, lightsabers and other weird bricks look really good to me. Anyway, this looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it finished, good luck! (And may the Force be with you)
 I like it 
  August 16, 2011
Looking terrific! Regarding your question: I like the notion of some dark bley detailing amidst the slopes, but the appearance of the "hole" feels a bit awkward to me (mostly due to the shape of the wedge elements). I'd be tempted to go with some dark bley detailing, but perhaps alter the appearance a bit from what you have now, eliminating the wedges, and include three or four small places along that section (instead of just one half way). Meanwhile, looking forward to seeing the finished piece! Great stuff!
 
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