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Latest car WIP... 1/5.5 scale !
Work in progress of my latest, most detailed car - built in 1/5.5 scale!
About this creation
Yo!

I came back home this may for summer, and my plans regarding lego were to make another big ship, and, parts permitting, another big car.

I'd previously avoided making more big cars, as I'd run out of big wheels - and buying them on bricklink or ebay isn't cheap - not when I'm used to buying huge mixed boxes of second-hand lego for around $20. Well, this summer, my brother shows me some said second-hand lego he'd gotten cheap... which included four big, old truck-style wheels... which were pretty good for a car I'd contemplated building.

So I started. Though, I thought of any major snags before starting - there were some parts of the car I wondered if it would actually be possible to build with lego; building the wings in a way that would not only stay true to the real shape, but also leave space for the wheel to turn underneath - even when the suspension is fully compressed, for example.

I started by making one mock-up wing... decided it was a fairly big undertaking, started work on my big Black Sun Empire ship, decided that was a lot of work too, finish the BSE ship about a month later (it's on my page now), and then decided to start work on this one - at least see what I could do for now. My little brother has helped with some parts too, mostly around the engine bay, so give him some credit too :)

Well... so far things have gone quite quickly. I seem to be very lucky in that, so far, most of the things I thought might be problematic have gone quite smoothly, and either by luck or by design, everything is fitting together perfectly, looking just like it should and staying true to the real car; as well as (so far at least... I doubt this will be the case for the rest of the car) managing to find all the parts I needed, in the right colours.

Unlike my other big cars, I decided that this time, instead of going just for looks, I'd give myself a challenge, and make the car as functional and detailed as I can... without compromising accuracy in the looks department. So far, again, I've been quite lucky in managing to succeed in that. My dad is slowly restoring his one of these cars, so I've got the perfect reference just outside whenever I need it :)
I'm also planning on some minimum electricals, in the form of the front headlamps lighting up. I think this will be all though, as all the other lights on the car are too small for lego lighting to fit in, and I only have two suitable lego lights anyway.

Anyway, enough for the big paragraph - here's the photo-by-photo tour...



It all started with four of these...



... for which I then designed one of these and left it to collect dust for a month and a half...



...And after three or four days of intense work, that's what it looks like now.



Like this, the wheelbase might look a little too far apart; but it is right, and once the bodywork is in place it looks normal.



Here's a view from the front. Before anybody comments on it, I'll just let you know that the odd camber angle is right for this car, which has suspension similar to how I have made it, and not double wishbone style suspension, like most cars do.



Here's a shot showing the pedal assembly, handbrake (on the left, to the top-right of the left suspension in the photo), and steering arms. Sadly, the steering is the only function I haven't managed to incorporate into the car; the steering mechanism is for dummy purposes only, and though it does turn, the wheels don't. This is due to the design of the suspension, which I wanted to make practically the same as the rear suspension, to ensure that all four wheels have the same camber angle.



A shot of the interior floor, with mechanism to lift the front seat backwards (to facilitate entering the car, if you're a fat bloke) and hinges for the rear seats attached to the rear firewall.



Here's the best bit, in my opinion - the whole rear section. This took a lot of work, but very satisfying results. The rear suspension is very similar to the front, except that, through universal joints, the rear wheels are linked to the engine; which has moving pistons and air fans on either side. Not only is the whole area as functional as possible, it's been painstakingly modeled upon the real thing, and though there are some small differences (due to using lego bricks, there are some restrictions in spacing etc), I still think it looks very accurate. We've tried to make as many of the real components you'll find in this section as possible - such as the petrol tank, battery, air filter, electrical components, etc... I'll link to a couple of photos of the real car's engine bay when I post the finished model, so you can compare.



Side view of the engine and engine frame - the cogs are supposed to be the air fans, which turn as the wheels go round.



Top view of the engine; the pistons also move up and down as the wheels turn.



Another rear shot of the rear section. It just looks so cool...



A close-up of the exhaust system and stuff.



Oh look, more engine-y bits.



Top view of the rear suspension - virtually the same as the front, but with a drivetrain - something which would have been much more complicated if this car did have double wishbone type suspension.



Another shot of the suspension. So far, two spring on either side of each wheel seems to be strong enough to keep it up - the camber angle helps here - though that might change once all the weight of the bodywork has been built onto it.



Here's a shot from underneath, showing a hole I had to make in the floor in order to let the cogs and stuff fit.



Have you ever come across really dirty, faded old manky lego bricks that look so bad you wouldn't even fart on them ? Yeah, I've got quite a lot of those in my white box - but they've all got their use. Like my other big cars, instead of a chassis, I've made a really strong flat floor - in this case (like my other big white car) it's three plated high, all cross-linked (like plywood) for strength. Only the top layer looks nice, the rest are those rubbishy bricks you wouldn't want anybody to see.... they do have a use sometimes :)
Unlike my other big cars, which in real life would have a chassis... this car actually does have a flat floor in real life - the 'chassis' is just a rectangle made of four tubes which runs diagonally across the car - possibly the lightest chassis of any production car that had one.



Here's what it looks like with all four wings on. The wings aren't finished yet. The shape is right, but I still need to alter them and parts for the lights and trim. If you get bored between reading this and the rest of the page, here's a little game you can play - it's called 'Guess how many white 2x3 plates were used on this car' (answer at the bottom for the cheaters)



Rear shot, with the wings on. All four wheels fit snugly inside the wings, and don't scrape even when the suspension is fully compressed... in the real car, though of course they aren't supposed to, the wheels actually do rub against the inside of the wings sometimes !

There's still lots of work left, obviously, and I have no idea how long it'll take me... or if I even have enough parts to finish it... if not, there's a chance that, like my TVR and Bugatti models, you ma have to wait a long time to see the finished thing if I end up having to get hold of some extra parts to finish it...

So... in my best Rolf Harris impersonation, "Can you tell what it is yet?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymu9MpXqOds :)

- Dan


(Answer to the quiz: about 3.2 million)



Comments

 I made it 
  September 22, 2011
Quoting cyberfrank 2010 wow! impressionnant! tout ces mecanismes, et les ailes, beau design! ca promet! j aimerais avoir d autres pieces a suspension, j en ai seulement 4! je vois que pour des gros vehicules, ca en prends pas mal plus! beau travail dan!!!
Merci :) Effectivement il faut bien plus pour les véhicules plus lourds... ma lamborghini (toujours pas avancée...) comporte 6 amortisseurs... et pas ces petites, mais les plus grandes - 8 mises ensemble pour faire un grand amortisseur; et puis deux comme ça par roue ! Celle-ci a l'air petite par rapport :) Les suspensions en fait sont parmi les plus grands différences remarquables entre le MOc et la vraie voiture - la vraie voiture n'a qu'un amortisseur par roue; mais avec les légos ce n'était pas possible de le construire de cette façon, et ce n'aurait pas été assez fort pour tenir la voiture. - Dan
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  August 26, 2011
wow! impressionnant! tout ces mecanismes, et les ailes, beau design! ca promet! j aimerais avoir d autres pieces a suspension, j en ai seulement 4! je vois que pour des gros vehicules, ca en prends pas mal plus! beau travail dan!!!
 I made it 
  August 1, 2011
Quoting Lego Builders Wow! Lucky you! Is your friend's Bricklink store at his/her house or at an actual store?
Luckily at his house :) I helped him sort out through a great deal of it... literally a whole week's worth of just sorting parts out into colour, type, etc... then putting them all away in little zippy bags, which were then sorted into stacks of drawers. He kept insisting on tea breaks every five minutes, and I felt guilty so I kept on working most of the time... it was worth it though, it helped him out a fair bit, and in return he gave me the UCS Falcon :) - Dan
 I like it 
  July 31, 2011
Wow! Lucky you! Is your friend's Bricklink store at his/her house or at an actual store?
 I like it 
  July 31, 2011
AWESOME! i can't wait to see it finished!
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  July 31, 2011
Quoting Jay Rhum Jolie voiture! Je suis très heureux que Christophe ai pensé à t'inviter dans notre groupe! J'était en train d'y penser moi-même, en voyant ta belle caisse!
Aaah c'est pas tous les jours que l'on fait la course pour m'inviter à quelque chose haha... Mais quand même merci de m'avoir pris dans le groupe, c'est sympa :) Quand à la voiture, pour l'instant elle progresse bien - il me manquera quelques pièces, mais je crois en fait pouvoir presque la finir cet été... si j'ai moyen d'obtenir le peu qu'il me faudra ça serait cool de pouvoir vous la présenter finie avant que je reparte pour l'université... -Dan
 I made it 
  July 31, 2011
Quoting Lego Builders I agree with you, Dan about the Bricklink orders. The thing that really hurts is the shipping cost. I just wanted to tell you that I'm working on a big secret project right now (for you it might be considered small). It's nearly finished, but I want to post some other MOCs first.
Haha I avoid bricklink... usually if I really need a part I'll scavenge from another model I give less priority to, and if it really comes to it, I have a friend in the next village with a bricklink store... so no shipping cost :) - Dan
 I made it 
  July 31, 2011
Quoting christophe corthay Mmmmmm ces courbes me stimule au plus haut point !!! MOUHAHAHAAAAA !!!! Hum pardon...je sors... By the way, je t'ai envoye une petite invitaion d'un groupe de francophone avec peut etre un gros MOC en commun... si ca te branche, tu es le bienvenue !!!
Merci; et merci pour l'invitation; que j'ai bien sûr accepté :) Depuis cette page, j'ai réussi à (presque) finir la carrosserie arrière, que j'ai pensé serait la plus difficile; tout ce qui couvre le moteur doit bien sûr laisser la place à tout ce qui est à l'intérieur; alors que la carrosserie avant laisse plus de libertés. Peut être une autre page WIP viendra, on verra... :) - Dan
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  July 31, 2011
your brother gave me a tip (Messerschmitt KR 201 Roadster Deluxe & Messerschmitt KR200)! + so many details! bricklink-hint: parts for small cars are cheaper :-P
 I like it 
  July 31, 2011
Jolie voiture! Je suis très heureux que Christophe ai pensé à t'inviter dans notre groupe! J'était en train d'y penser moi-même, en voyant ta belle caisse!
 I like it 
  July 31, 2011
I agree with you, Dan about the Bricklink orders. The thing that really hurts is the shipping cost. I just wanted to tell you that I'm working on a big secret project right now (for you it might be considered small). It's nearly finished, but I want to post some other MOCs first.
 I like it 
  July 31, 2011
Mmmmmm ces courbes me stimule au plus haut point !!! MOUHAHAHAAAAA !!!! Hum pardon...je sors... By the way, je t'ai envoye une petite invitaion d'un groupe de francophone avec peut etre un gros MOC en commun... si ca te branche, tu es le bienvenue !!!
 I made it 
  July 31, 2011
Quoting Austin Nomorinfo sorry for the double comment, but the shock I was talking about are exactly the sam size and shape, but with harder springs. here is what they look like: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/731c01.jpg Hope that helped, and the shocks that are on now look fine, I just thought this would help.
Aaaah - interesting :) I wasn't aware of these. I only knew of the light and dark grey ones this size (which both seem to have the same strength). I actually had 18 spare light grey ones, not 16 - and exactly two of them seemed to have one curl of the spring less than the others, for some reason, so I left those two out. Do you think one hard yellow spring would be as strong as two normal grey ones? It's a good idea, and thanks for bringing those to my attention - but for somebody like me with no money to burn, it's wiser to use the parts you already own, instead of buying new ones (buying individually on bricklink or ebay can work out very expensive) I've already worked out in my head how I'll be able to build most of the bodywork for this car... though I'm not confident I'll have all the parts :( For some reason, I never seem to have enough light grey 1-wide plates; and no matter how many I may have, there are rarely ever enough jumper plates, either... ah well, we'll see :) - Dan
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  July 30, 2011
sorry for the double comment, but the shock I was talking about are exactly the sam size and shape, but with harder springs. here is what they look like: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/731c01.jpg Hope that helped, and the shocks that are on now look fine, I just thought this would help.
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  July 29, 2011
Wow! Malte got it right? Lookin' good so far!
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  July 29, 2011
AHA! Well done Malte.. A Messerschmidt ? Fantastic. I'm so jealous right now :-)
 I made it 
  July 29, 2011
Quoting Malte Dorowski messerschmitt tg500 ?
Got it bang on, dude :) After 10 years on tressles (and trying to get hold of all the necessary parts... which are extraordinarily expensive and hard to find for this car) my dad has finally started restoring his one. I've helped dismantle the car, and grind off the old paint, and am quite familiar with messerschmitts inside and out as my dad's job is restoring them (usually the 3-wheelers) for people anyway. Hopefully this model will take less time than the real one sitting outside :)
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  July 29, 2011
Quoting Nick Barrett Well, well... 1/5.5 scale - most of my cars use these wheels and they're all around 1/8. So this is a car with small wheels... Right, with my Clouseau hat on, what else do we know ? It's not the moon rover thingy (good guess, Joe) because your Dad wouldn't have one of those (would he ?). Mmmm... rear engine - looks like a parallel twin, swing axles all round and a forward, central driving position. From the wings it looks 1920s/30s ish. It isn't a Rumpler is it ? That would be cool.. Whatever it is, I do admire you for sticking to the proper engineering layout; it's something I always aim for with varying degrees of success, and it's also why sometimes my wheelarches look a little expansive, to avoid fouling when steering is on full lock and suspension compressed - sometimes hard to do as you know. This is a really interesting project and I await the next instalment with bated breath...
Agreed, a Rumpler *would* be cool... but alas not from me, at this moment in time... It does sort of have the shape of a 20s/30s car at the moment, but once it starts coming together, some of its 50s styling should become more apparent. Oh, and no, we don't have a moon buggy in the garage - though that would be pretty cool too :) Getting nice, steering, suspended wheels often is hard under bodywork... most of mine (steering is usually the only function my big cars get... this being the exception with no steering, but having everything else) though the steering lock is usually quite small on those. Next instalment, you say? ... well, I wasn't originally planning on one - to be honest I think I've actually done about half of the work already - though I may not have all the parts for the rest. If I finish it soon, I'll post it; if I can't get it finished before I go back to uni at the end of summer, I'll post another update to keep you updated before I go, in the hope that it won't take forever for me to get a chance to finish it after that :)
 I made it 
  July 29, 2011
Quoting MortalSwordsman . Lets look at the clues Rolf: 4 large fenders, central steering column, super light chassis. I reckon its that aluminium moon car. Either that or classic 20 or 30s car - that i cant remember the name of. Arghh! Looking really good so far. Is that a central steering column? does it have two driveshafts and no diff?
Yep - central steering; and it does have one driveshaft with a diff (a bit awkward to build considering the layout - hence the restrictions of using lego bricks sometimes) It's actually a car from the 50s; and though the styling is true to its time, I have always thought that the basic shape - a central, thin body, with four seperate wings - was more that of an older car, so I can't blame you for thinking something from the 20s or 30s.
 I made it 
  July 29, 2011
Quoting Austin Nomorinfo very good so far. I noticed that the shocks are either soft or normal, maybe hard springs would work better, you could use probably only two for each wheel and it would save space. other than that this looks excellent! 5/5 (so far)
Thanks :) By strong shocks do you mean the bigger, dark grey or black ones? I had a bunch, but every single one is making up the total of 64 springs for my Lamborghini project. I'm not sure they're much stronger, but they'd be too long to fit underneath the wings in this car, which would rule them out. That, and I happened to have 16 of these laying around :)
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  July 29, 2011
messerschmitt tg500 ?
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  July 29, 2011
Well, well... 1/5.5 scale - most of my cars use these wheels and they're all around 1/8. So this is a car with small wheels... Right, with my Clouseau hat on, what else do we know ? It's not the moon rover thingy (good guess, Joe) because your Dad wouldn't have one of those (would he ?). Mmmm... rear engine - looks like a parallel twin, swing axles all round and a forward, central driving position. From the wings it looks 1920s/30s ish. It isn't a Rumpler is it ? That would be cool.. Whatever it is, I do admire you for sticking to the proper engineering layout; it's something I always aim for with varying degrees of success, and it's also why sometimes my wheelarches look a little expansive, to avoid fouling when steering is on full lock and suspension compressed - sometimes hard to do as you know. This is a really interesting project and I await the next instalment with bated breath...
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  July 29, 2011
Lets look at the clues Rolf: 4 large fenders, central steering column, super light chassis. I reckon its that aluminium moon car. Either that or classic 20 or 30s car - that i cant remember the name of. Arghh! Looking really good so far. Is that a central steering column? does it have two driveshafts and no diff?
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  July 29, 2011
very good so far. I noticed that the shocks are either soft or normal, maybe hard springs would work better, you could use probably only two for each wheel and it would save space. other than that this looks excellent! 5/5 (so far)
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  July 29, 2011
Really cool, even if the camber is funky (I know you said not to say anything, but honesty is the best policy) However it's hardly noticable from the side view. Those fenders are really good looking, and smooth. And not to mention the detail in what you've built so far.
 
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