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On Posting Opinions and Arguments on MOCpages
WARNING: PRETENTIOUS SOAP-BOX SPEECH FORTHCOMING...
About this creation
Good afternoon, Ladies, Gentlemen, and Clonies. I’m Sig-Matty, speaking to you from Matt’s incomplete light studio. I was quite pleased when I got this gig, being Matt David’s sig-fig. After all, it’s been almost a year and all he’s made until now have been those silly little tanks.


I was excited to be appointed to this place of honor, but now…now I am depressed.


You see, it would appear that from the ashes of the “epic” sharpie-clone debate, a new trend is emerging. Now I know that I am the “new guy” around these parts, but even I know something screwed up is going on here. So, allow me to step up onto my soap box for a moment…

I joined this site to see MOCs…you know…LEGO creations. I did not join a LEGO community website so I could read all about someone's fantastically interesting opinion on who-gives-a-lick.


Don’t get me wrong—I appreciate the fact that people have opinions. The reason we post MOCs is so we can share with others and get feedback on our LEGO creations. I'm talking about this new trend of posting...."MOCs"....that are ONLY intended to show the world a person's opinion. This "On this..." and "On that...." thing has got to stop. We're here to see LEGO creations-don't post something just to give us your thoughts on lord-knows-what. It's cool if you want to make a memorial, say, for Iraq war veterans, because it is your opinion that they deserve support. It is NOT COOL to post a picture of a fig and say "I believe blah blah blah." If, for some unknown reason, you want to discuss and debate about whats-a-ma-call-it here on MOCpages, do it in groups. We all have opinions, and most of us express them in the appropriate place.


Let me extrapolate: Just now, you stumbled onto this page. Judging by the fact that you are a member of MOCpages, it is reasonable to assume you have arrived here expecting to see a MOC. However, you have not been presented with a MOC.


Instead, you’re stuck listening to Sig-Matty blabber on about an opinion of his. Annoying, is it not? Just think: you could be checking out Keslo’s progress on the Eye of Chaos, or reviewing the Rusty Ferret, or….sorry, Chris, didn’t mean to leave you out,….. saying your farewell at “RIP, Dolly.” But you’re not. You’re here. Wasting your time.

To help me drive this point home, I’ve invited MOCpages’ favourite insane Englishman, Stuart Delahay, to take a quick trip across the pond, and, together, we will share some of our useless opinions with you.


MATT: Bloody good of you to swing bye, Stu, glad you’re here. Throwing all attempts at avoiding national stereotypes aside, I’ll assume you’ve come by way of a combination of velocipede, double-decker bus, and a broomstick, is that right?
STU: An ocean separates our continents, Matt. I flew into Detroit on a 747.
MATT: Right, right, at which point you tipped your top-hat to the chauffeur, paid him ten quid, and rode a flying umbrella the rest of the way to my place, right?
STU: We’re going to crush you in the Cup.
MATT: No doubt. But, Stu, all joking aside, I must say, there is definitely something different about your appearance…

STU: What, my gold tooth? Yeah, well…some jerk was giving me trouble about being a Derby County fan at the pub the other night, and we had a bit of a scuffle…
MATT: Sounds awful, but I was referring to your complexion. You look…not as pasty as usual. Radiant, almost. Have you been at the beach?
STU: Nope. It’s just next to you Michigan folk, even us Englishmen look tan.
MATT: Ah, makes sense. Well, Stu, to business, shall we? Have any completely non-LEGO-related opinions you feel like sharing with the world today?
STU: Sure, I’m game. Here goes…

On Cheese...

I think cheese is a bloody good food, but I just wish it wasn’t so fattening…

On “Bring-Your-Own-Beverage” events…

Look, if I’m taking time out of my could-be-busy schedule to come to your daughter’s open house half-way across the country, you should at least have the decency to have an open cooler…

On David Beckham...

We thought marrying a Spice Girl was the big joke, but not until he joined the LA Galaxy did we realize the true punch-line.

On Bottled Water...

PAY for water? That's like paying for air!

On Lengthy Radio Advertisements...

"Just get to the music, man!"

Well, Stu, I think we’ve made our point. Until next time, mate.


If you are laughing right now, but are somewhat agitated that you just spent your time reading an opinion instead of checking out a cool LEGO creation: congratulations, you are sane. If you are offended by this post, my guess is you should spend more time building and less time pontificating. For crying out loud, it’s LEGO. LEGO!

SIG-MATTY----------------

Because everyone else does this, and I have zero resistance to peer pressure...


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Well, that's enough of that rubbish. I don't want my fanboys to worry that I've ditched my war-machine builds--I'm finishing my next Mandatory Arbitration MOC as we speak. Here, I was merely trying out a new table-top light studio, and figured I'd go ahead and squeeze in an official sig-fig, as well as make a bit of a statement. A bit pretentious? Definitely. But, hey...I warned you.




Comments

 I like it 
  August 3, 2010
Ah... You're wit is cutting and to the point, in a round-about (hint hint) sort of way. Top o' the day gov'nah! MEP
 I like it 
  July 23, 2010
I like it ESPECIALLY with the bottled water thing it is like paying for air!o well can't go of and blow up the bottled water manufacturers (or can we.)
 I like it 
  July 7, 2010
Quoting Matt If you are laughing right now, but are somewhat agitated that you just spent your time reading an opinion instead of checking out a cool LEGO creation: congratulations, you are sane.
Hmm... I wasn't laughing, but I was somewhat agitated, so I suppose I'm half-sane. Interesting topic.
Matty  .
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Black Paper Moon
  June 25, 2010
Hmmm..ah!your bodyguard's head is my sig fig's head!hahaha!
 I like it 
  June 23, 2010
I love how this is funny, but it says all the important stuff at the same time. Awesome work, Matt. P.S.- I like that SigFig of yours! Kool...
 I like it 
  June 21, 2010
You should have been here a coupla of years ago when the Clonies and sharpied Clones were at a height! I tell you know, it was a horrible sight to see Mocpages crammed with ugly and disfigured clones.....
 I like it 
  June 16, 2010
THANK YOU!!! I thought nobody would ever speak up about this topic. it's so ridiculous that people are wasting MOCPages with their stupid little arguments.-TheCh33f
 I made it 
  June 16, 2010
Quoting Brick Star YES! I just looked through my figs and I have the parts for it! He is cool! Matt keep an eye on my page,I`m posting a vig for you called "The Hand Off". Your thinking like~What could he be making?~ I`ll post in soon. 5/5
Oh my.
 I like it 
  June 16, 2010
YES! I just looked through my figs and I have the parts for it! He is cool! Matt keep an eye on my page,I`m posting a vig for you called "The Hand Off". Your thinking like~What could he be making?~ I`ll post in soon. 5/5
  June 16, 2010
Most discussed MOC.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think all the folks on the "Pages" helped to make your point. Think I will post a fig on my arse. Not enough Lego and body part MOCs out there.
 I like it 
  June 16, 2010
The action going on behind in the background just made my day ;) Love the humor
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  June 16, 2010
Quoting Malik Primus Isn't it funny whenyour sigfig frowns? His stubble seems to disappear!
Right. What sig-matty is actually angry about is his irritated skin after shaving.
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  June 16, 2010
Quoting Stuart Delahay Nyuk, nyuk, tee hee - Seems that same poor munchkin who tried to correct my use of English is also trying to point out to you that your post is (SHOCK HORROR) an opinion! I must have missed that one laughing at myself. Seems like now would be a good time to start planning for that school of satire, or perhaps just a course on stating the obvious - on this site it will be well attended mate.
Indeed. You can instruct your own course: Puns, Paronomasia, and Witticism.
 I like it 
  June 16, 2010
Isn't it funny whenyour sigfig frowns? His stubble seems to disappear!
  June 15, 2010
Not even going to rate... Why comment you ask? to say I'm not even going to rate. There's some wisdom hidden beneath this "comment". Even if I don't know what it is.
 I like it 
  June 14, 2010
Nyuk, nyuk, tee hee - Seems that same poor munchkin who tried to correct my use of English is also trying to point out to you that your post is (SHOCK HORROR) an opinion! I must have missed that one laughing at myself. Seems like now would be a good time to start planning for that school of satire, or perhaps just a course on stating the obvious - on this site it will be well attended mate.
Matty  .
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Dr. N
  June 13, 2010
I like it, but dude, you shot yourself in the foot. This is, like, an opinion post. Epic irony, dude. But hey, its all good. And I, like, totally agree. really
Matty  .
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Scorch Rocks!
  June 13, 2010
Amen, Matt. I totally agree, we should ban these opinion pages. The "Clonetards" page says custom cloning is clogging up MOC pages, it's actually THAT crud that's clogging up the place.
  June 13, 2010
Oh, and did I mention you'd make an excellent speech writer?
 I like it 
  June 13, 2010
Hilarious. And if it hasn't already been stated, this is one of those opinion pages everyone seems to want to ban. I agree with you, of course, but still, that's kind of funny, don't you think?
  June 12, 2010
Don't watch what you're not interested in. Unfortunately, these kind of "entries" get far more attention than the ordinary mocs...
 I like it 
  June 12, 2010
Nice page, man. Completely postal, mind you. But nice. If you open a page and there's a discussion instead of a cool MOC, just skip it and everyone will be happy :)
 I like it 
  June 12, 2010
Eh, freedom of speech, what can we say? If I don't want to read something, I don't click on it. Otherwise, I'd rather deal with these Mocs than dozens of 'awesim' (sic) clones on plates. Brainfood is what it's all about...
Matty  .
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Dr. N
  June 11, 2010
Well, I think that clone and the SWAT in the backround of those first few photos make this a MOC. And I, like ttally agree with your points. MOC stands for My Own Creation, not My Own Complaint. Dude.
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  June 11, 2010
Quoting eric waite Irony... YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Or a genius, and I'm kinda leaning towards the later... Seriously though, I love how ironic this post is... You made an opinion post about how much you hate opinion posts? lol. And, unlike the recent clon3tards post, and the displaying minifigs tutorial, I can't go around using this as a post, because it's just too Ironic to take serious... brilliant. I hope? And, as an after-thought... I totally disagree. If people (and by people I mean non-idiots) want to argue on my building style, my mini-fig hair color choice, ect., then I'm totally ok with that. After all, criticism is a great way to get better! ;)
The irony is purposeful. Seriously, I'm starting to think I need to open "Matt David's School of Satirical Comedy." Also, again, I'm not bashing criticism. In fact, had you read through the whole post, you'd see that I openly praise it and welcome it..."after all, that's one of the main reasons we post creations at all-to gain the feedback of others"....I think is what I said. What I'm against are people causing drama on the website over ridiculous topics unrelated to anything that the website is actually about. Like "women in the military", or religion, or politics.
 I like it 
  June 11, 2010
i agree, mocpages should not be filled with all of these useless complaints and arguments. also, what font did you use for the title of your "Sig-Matty" pic at the bottom of the list?
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  June 11, 2010
Quoting Dr. N MOC stands for My Own Creation, not My Own Complaint. Dude.
HA! I love it!
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Matt David You know me--I'm a one-man army of self-righteous-ness.
Yep. I'm sure Ghandi and MLK would be proud.
Quoting Matt David And go easy on sig-Matty, he's new.
So much I could say, but know I shouldn't... What I will say is that i'll try-ish.
  June 10, 2010
Irony... YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Or a genius, and I'm kinda leaning towards the later... Seriously though, I love how ironic this post is... You made an opinion post about how much you hate opinion posts? lol. And, unlike the recent clon3tards post, and the displaying minifigs tutorial, I can't go around using this as a post, because it's just too Ironic to take serious... brilliant. I hope? And, as an after-thought... I totally disagree. If people (and by people I mean non-idiots) want to argue on my building style, my mini-fig hair color choice, ect., then I'm totally ok with that. After all, criticism is a great way to get better! ;)
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Andrew Somers My first day back from Calgary... and you've decided to try and rid the 'pages of eediotic arguments and pointless blather through the use of a post.
You know me--I'm a one-man army of self-righteous-ness. And go easy on sig-Matty, he's new.
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Chris Phipson I see you got that soapbox reinforced like we were talking about. ~ Chris.
Don't be jealous. I'll get you one for your birthday.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
So cliche...~H
  June 10, 2010
I think that the clonetard argument had some legitimacy as it was at least related to our own lego community, I do see your point of view and I think you have a good point.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
I see you got that soapbox reinforced like we were talking about. ~ Chris.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
My first day back from Calgary... and you've decided to try and rid the 'pages of eediotic arguments and pointless blather through the use of a post. What ever happened to the good old days? You know, find the address, mail the death threat? And to add to that, I had to read through this whole post in my sleep deprived state. I'm not even sure I know what the help I'm typing at this point... Good moc-ish by the way. Now that you've outed your siggy, I can have fun. Heh heh heh...
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
you really shouldn't post a fig and then rant at us, in fact there's this great moc that someone posted that could help you with your problem: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/207100
  June 10, 2010
Hah, so very true! Love the satire, Matt. Especially love the background bit with the clone trooper. I feel inspired to make a vig.
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Ribbits M You brought up some great points, and I have to say I agree with them. Overall this was an excellent presentation, despite the lack of a MOC.
AHA! But you see, the lack of a MOC is indeed part of the statement! A subtle point to the fact that when people post to argue or to debate, the quality of their work often suffers! You see!? BRILLIANT!
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
You brought up some great points, and I have to say I agree with them. Overall this was an excellent presentation, despite the lack of a MOC.
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Josh LaFollette so basically you spent this time to attack a single person on MOCpages by doing exactly what he did, but not posting anything of much worth. you did succeed in making it annoying though, if that was what you were aiming for. just because something has an opinion doesn't mean it isn't a MOC. Luc's stuff is actually MOCs, this isn't. and you tried to do what he did, and even mentioned that you did what you were not supporting, but never justified doing it when he can't.
I'm not attacking anyone. I'm attacking what you're doing right now---arguing on MOCpages. It's LEGOs. On the internet. Leave it alone. And, yes, I'm doing the exact thing that I am making fun of here--its called satire.
  June 10, 2010
so basically you spent this time to attack a single person on MOCpages by doing exactly what he did, but not posting anything of much worth. you did succeed in making it annoying though, if that was what you were aiming for. just because something has an opinion doesn't mean it isn't a MOC. Luc's stuff is actually MOCs, this isn't. and you tried to do what he did, and even mentioned that you did what you were not supporting, but never justified doing it when he can't.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
Luckily for me I don't look at people opinion mocs, unless they are well dressed. Nice bit of business in the background. Fun idea. see ya. garth
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting 'Mano . You watch it, 'mano, I actually built something with that opinion.... ;)
Hehehe
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Will Jones was that iraq war thing pointed at me and my "you can not step in the same river twice for the river in which you first stepped has moved on" moc?
Not at all, my friend! In fact, I hadn't seen it. No no no, you've got me all wrong. What you did was this: you actually BUILT a creation to honor a belief of yours. That is perfectly fine! What bugs me is when people just post a fig and ask something like "Do women belong in the military?" just to cause a debate.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
I think you nailed it right on the head. Everyone has an opinion. It's just a matter of where is the proper place to voice it. This is MOC pages so basicly keep brickin, make friends and admire ours and our fellow MOC'ers creations.
  June 10, 2010
was that iraq war thing pointed at me and my "you can not step in the same river twice for the river in which you first stepped has moved on" moc?
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Space Pirate Ah OK. Didn't know there were that many of those MOCs out there...but 2:00am? Just to get your opinions across? :D Have a look at that: http://xkcd.com/386/ It really isn't worth it. Life's short ;) Don't think it will change anything at all...
Nope...more like staying up until 2:00 am to get my light-box working. I absolutely despise arguing and debating on the internet. That was my whole point here.
  June 10, 2010
Ah OK. Didn't know there were that many of those MOCs out there...but 2:00am? Just to get your opinions across? :D Have a look at that: http://xkcd.com/386/ It really isn't worth it. Life's short ;) Don't think it will change anything at all...
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Space Pirate
After re-reading this thing, I realized that it was very easy to take what I was saying the wrong way. I've edited it so that, hopefully, my point is more clear. Hey give me a break, I wrote it at like 2:00am.
  June 10, 2010
I'll debate Stu on World Cup!! Where is that Limey?
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
That does it, I'm going to have to redo my sigfig using a less used head.
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Mister Bones Hmmm, you used a lot of long words in there, we be not but humble MOCers.
I know--I'm such a tool.
Quoting Mister Bones At any rate, I am disinclined to join in this debate.
Exactly! That's the point! There should BE NO debate on MOCpages.
Quoting Mister Bones Oh, the hair is not called messed up sexy. It is called Mister Bones Sexy!! YA BABY!
Yep. You definitely rock it the best. Lee: second-best. I'm just following the crowd.
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Stuart Delahay What's not to love? I'm honoured and flattered to be included here and thought of as MOCpages resident anything, nevermind English madman. My wife will be so proud when she comes home from shopping down the market for my pork pies, black pudding and jellied eels. And that's just for breakfast. I've realised i've got the parts for your siggy too, so be afraid....
Once I put together your siggy I knew I had to use him. Maybe next time he can help sig-Matty process clone fuel, who knows.
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Alex Fojtik But your tie is blue, not white. Totally different *snicker*.
It's a "power" tie, for intimidation in meetings, as opposed to Lee's slick black tie that he uses for....well we don't want to know.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
Hmmm, you used a lot of long words in there, we be not but humble MOCers. At any rate, I am disinclined to join in this debate. Now, the MOC was funny as all Hades, loved the action going on in the background and the chat with Stu. Oh, the hair is not called messed up sexy. It is called Mister Bones Sexy!! YA BABY!
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Carter W. Oh, peer pressure. Its like drugs, but deadlier! nice lighting box so far, and i love the MA troopers in the background dragging the dead clone away. That made my day at 6:20 in the morning. Thank you.
I'm glad you caught that--that was my favorite part!
 I made it 
  June 10, 2010
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J This is like a "clone without a plate" build. Ludicrous! Wait, I made a "figgies on a dashboard" ... never mind ...
Figgies on a Blue Screen. It's all the rage.
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Jake Savage However, your description of it made me slightly annoyed followed by laughing my ever-loving arse off, nice work making fun of an annoying issue:D
Mission Accomplished.
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Space Pirate I don't really know what you mean. I didn't notice a flood of opinions. I'm glad when people have an opinion on my MOCs and tell me what they think about it. Would you prefer short comments like "Cool" "Awesome" and so on? And other than this clone debate, I didn't notice any arguments either. It's the same with smoking. As long as there are adults who smoke, there'll always be children too. So as long as adults are making fun of clone sharpiers, kids will do the same. Hey, it's cool! Usually these arguments don't happen on the MOCs that I look at anyway. What?! I read through all your opinion, so I can at least expect you to read through mine as well. :P Btw, your MOC is like fighting for peace.
Nope, you're absolutely right. I'm not talking about people having opinions on MOCs (that's the whole point of posting creations-to get others' feedback) I'm talking about how people are starting to post "MOCs" that only express their opinions about some unrelated topic. Those "On Clone---" and "On Artists" posts were bad enough, but I saw one the other day that was "on women in the military." That's just insanity. I feel it's certain people trying to cause drama just to gain attention. I don't like drama. I know myself and a lot of other people use LEGO and its community as a means of escape from the drama of the every-day, so it bugs me when I see people just causing it for the heck of it.
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
Hmmm, I agree that its agitating to try and see some nice mocs here, but instead get wrapped up in a firestorm of trash talk. However, your description of it made me slightly annoyed followed by laughing my ever-loving arse off, nice work making fun of an annoying issue:D
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
This is like a "clone without a plate" build. Ludicrous! Wait, I made a "figgies on a dashboard" ... never mind ...
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  June 10, 2010
Oh, peer pressure. Its like drugs, but deadlier! nice lighting box so far, and i love the MA troopers in the background dragging the dead clone away. That made my day at 6:20 in the morning. Thank you.
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  June 10, 2010
What's not to love? I'm honoured and flattered to be included here and thought of as MOCpages resident anything, nevermind English madman. My wife will be so proud when she comes home from shopping down the market for my pork pies, black pudding and jellied eels. And that's just for breakfast. I've realised i've got the parts for your siggy too, so be afraid....
  June 10, 2010
I don't really know what you mean. I didn't notice a flood of opinions. I'm glad when people have an opinion on my MOCs and tell me what they think about it. Would you prefer short comments like "Cool" "Awesome" and so on? And other than this clone debate, I didn't notice any arguments either. It's the same with smoking. As long as there are adults who smoke, there'll always be children too. So as long as adults are making fun of clone sharpiers, kids will do the same. Hey, it's cool! Usually these arguments don't happen on the MOCs that I look at anyway. What?! I read through all your opinion, so I can at least expect you to read through mine as well. :P Btw, your MOC is like fighting for peace.
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  June 10, 2010
Opinions? They're like annoying relatives -- everybody has them and unfortunately they often become "The Thing That Wouldn't Leave." Hmmmm, that might be a comic . . . DIBS!
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  June 10, 2010
But your tie is blue, not white. Totally different *snicker*.
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  June 10, 2010
Quoting Shannon Young Matt and Lee - Separated at birth? http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/101945
Darn that generic hair piece! Funny, I've never seen that -- I've always known him by his brown jacket and Indiana Jones hat. Oh man, next thing you know I'll be making manhood-shaped spaceships and lord-knows-what-else.
  June 10, 2010
Matt and Lee - Separated at birth? http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/101945
 I like it 
  June 10, 2010
I like you, spunky. Points for using extrapolate.
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  June 10, 2010
Clever-ish. I dunno. Normally I'd say something. Good job. I guess. Keep on Brickin'.
 
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