Once again, I present a world first - a functioning Porsche 917K! MOC includes accurate scale and drivetrain layout, flat 12 engine, working gearbox behind the rear axle, full independent suspension, opening doors/ engine cover, and connected steering.
About this creation
The 1970 Porsche 917K - in this case, car #23 -
- was commissioned by a gentleman from spain. It was built from the parts of 8195 and 8297 - what I consider to be the two 'universal car' sets which when combined allow you enough parts to build just about any car. I'm pretty sure this is also the first time this car has been built in large scale Technic:
(original car, from wikimedia commons)
It was tricky to get the shutlines and key contours mated nicely, but I'm pleased with the result. Unlike the 250 GTO the original car does have double wishbones front/rear, so I could keep the standard wishbones. The only odd layout choice is putting the gearbox behind the rear axle, which means the engine has to sit high, and there's very little room to mount the rear suspension and differential transfer gear. I'm still using a 3-speed linear box (though this time with a tight fitting shift gate!) due to space constraints. It's got a new design and much closer gear ratios (0.7, 0.85, and 1 if I remember right) than the 250GTO. No power functions this time at the request of the customer.
Functions:
- Working steering, linked to steering wheel
- Full suspension, same type as the real car - independent double wishbone front/rear, shortened wishbone length and vertical absorber placement to increase suspension stiffness to match real car
- Working flat 12 engine, mid placement
- 3-speed gearbox with shifter mounted behind rear axle, pushrod activated shifter
- Opening engine cover and doors
Constructed from:
- 8145 Ferrari 599, and 8297 Off Roader.
- Yes, the 250GTO still exists complete; the 917K was assembled from sets acquired specifically for this purpose.
Okay, time more photos and details:
Now for some mechanical bits:
Car without doors and engine cover. Note how short the wheelbase really is; this factor contributed to the instability of the first version of the real car before it had its huge wings added.
The underside. Although there are two pneumatic springs there, they're non functional and just serve as decorative mufflers. I wanted to make the engine cover self-opening, but it turned out to be impossible as there was no room to mount the required pushrods and still keep the whole thing looking convincing - especially from the side profile.
The engine has a braced structure around the outside to replicate the tubular chassis structure of the original car. It was a bit of a pain to make it look convincing, but I think it turned out fine.
Cockpit
Cockpit II, doors and engine cover removed
Gearshift gate
Closeup of the rear suspension/engine/gearbox; note tubular brace structure also used for gearbox mount and casing :)
Engine cover
A note on photography - the majority of the images were shot with a Nikon D700 and remote speedlights, but a Ricoh GR-Digital III was used for the wide and close shots.
Thanks for looking and don't forget to add a fave if you like it! I do respond to all comments if I can.
Ming Thein
March 2010
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May 2, 2013 |
Excellent car! Very realistic. I have a question, what size of tires is there? |
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February 9, 2013 |
Excellent work!! Also with the pictures. |
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November 10, 2012 |
WOW, WOW, WOW! That is so amazing. I especially love the way how you have perfectly captured the cars shape. Well done and keep it up! |
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May 25, 2012 |
Thanks Ben. Sorry, nope - the model went to the client already. Best description I can give you is that there's a pushrod that runs parallel to and over the top of the flat-12 engine, which then drops down into the cockpit. It doesn't shift that precisely because of flex in the rod, but it does the job.
Quoting Ben H
Amazing model. Do you have any additional pics of how you set up the shifter linkage back to the transmission and transaxle? I'm trying to figure out how to set up a similar configuration for a Ferrari 312b and I want to put the transmission at the back of the car rather than under the shifter.
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Amazing model. Do you have any additional pics of how you set up the shifter linkage back to the transmission and transaxle? I'm trying to figure out how to set up a similar configuration for a Ferrari 312b and I want to put the transmission at the back of the car rather than under the shifter. |
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March 31, 2012 |
This is an extremely well-built car, the details and features are great, and so is your photography. Amazing! |
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March 26, 2012 |
I'm still in love with this! The best looking Technic car EVER! |
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November 24, 2011 |
You might want to check out my newest creation, the Mercedes transporter for this :-) Now i need to try and build the car...hmmmm |
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October 24, 2011 |
wow that is a awsome car and it realy is cooler in lego then in steal! |
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October 22, 2011 |
ravishingly beautiful! |
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April 13, 2011 |
Quoting De Tomaso Pantera
Stunning! By far the most beautiful modern technic car i have seen, one of the best cars ever created imo. The photography makes all the difference too. Great job! Please rate and comment on my mocs if you have a spare minute :)
Thank you! I'm working on a technology demonstrator now - my own interpretation of a modern LM GT1 car. Awaiting parts, but it's coming along nicely... |
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April 13, 2011 |
Stunning! By far the most beautiful modern technic car i have seen, one of the best cars ever created imo. The photography makes all the difference too. Great job! Please rate and comment on my mocs if you have a spare minute :) |
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March 22, 2011 |
Thanks for all of your continued kind comments. I'm working on something else very interesting (which again, as far as I know, has never been done in Lego) but work has temporarily stopped awaiting delivery of parts at the moment...
Quoting Tanner Bryson
I LOVE the 917 race cars. In my opinion, they are the coolest racecars of all time. How much would you charge for one, or could you send me the instructions? My dad would love one of these!
Tanner, please send me an email (mingthein@gmail.com) if you would like to discuss further, thanks! |
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March 22, 2011 |
I LOVE the 917 race cars. In my opinion, they are the coolest racecars of all time. How much would you charge for one, or could you send me the instructions? My dad would love one of these! |
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January 24, 2011 |
That is amazing! I wish that i had one of those! I am so jealous. Love all your works Ming. |
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January 8, 2011 |
I liked it so much I asked Ming to build me one too. And he delivered! With an improved gearbox.
Amazing! |
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December 17, 2010 |
Absolutely stunning Ming. I've always loved the look of the 917. It's the only Lego version I've seen and you've certainly done it justice!
You've motivated me to give it a go, so I'm going to try and build it myself over the Christmas period (fingers crossed)
I love your photography by the way. I'm also a Nikon shooter (a D300 at the moment) I'm still finding my feet but hope to get some more pictures under my belt in 2011
All the best,
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December 3, 2010 |
Hello! I´m from Austria. Is it possible to buy the lego porsche, bugatti or Ferrari? Because they are great! Could you send me an email to my adress: SimoneV@gmx.at ? Thank you very much! |
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November 12, 2010 |
i just created the page with pictures.the second pic is where i plan to put the rear axle.9 studs is the length from the one tech brick to the other. |
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November 11, 2010 |
Quoting Victor ruiz
Man that car is cool.Hey man wish you didn't take it apart.can you help me on making a rear axle for my supercar?
I didn't take it apart. It was made for a client. I just don't have the car anymore. Independent parts are generally difficult to make without seeing exactly how it's going to fit with the rest of the car. |
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November 11, 2010 |
Man that car is cool.Hey man wish you didn't take it apart.can you help me on making a rear axle for my supercar? |
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October 3, 2010 |
UNREAL! not only are you an incredible designer but the photos are equally impressive! |
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July 31, 2010 |
Quoting Nock6687 Turner
this is by far the best creation that i have ever seen!!!!! please, if there is any way, post instructions, ive already built the back half, i need more help though!!!!
Sorry, I just wing it as I go along, so no instructions I'm afraid... |
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July 30, 2010 |
this is by far the best creation that i have ever seen!!!!! please, if there is any way, post instructions, ive already built the back half, i need more help though!!!! |
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June 16, 2010 |
Like the real car! Amazing! |
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May 19, 2010 |
That's brilliant. One of my favourite race cars and done so well - bravo! |
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April 20, 2010 |
Great job! |
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April 1, 2010 |
This creation exudes brilliance...I envy the customer.
Keep the MOCs coming, you are one of the best!!! |
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March 30, 2010 |
Quoting Siddhart Jaipal
Great pics and wow! what a cool large scale model. I went to your website and also does that look amazing. I'm a Industrial design student and also my previous study was about photography and film.
My next projects are: Toyota Prius and sportscar loaded with a big cannon.
Thanks! Cool on the prius...but a sportscar with a big cannon? Like James Bond's DB9? |
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March 30, 2010 |
Great pics and wow! what a cool large scale model. I went to your website and also does that look amazing. I'm a Industrial design student and also my previous study was about photography and film.
My next projects are: Toyota Prius and sportscar loaded with a big cannon. |
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March 29, 2010 |
Quoting Capitán Skrall
Besides the beautiful car you´ve made, and the great gearbox, I love the pictures, they are great man!
Thanks! In another life I'm also a photographer. :) |
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March 29, 2010 |
Besides the beautiful car you´ve made, and the great gearbox, I love the pictures, they are great man! |
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March 29, 2010 |
Quoting LLUIS VILA
MING
Thank you for all the wonderful work done with the Porsche 917 K.
I opened the box carefully and with the illusion of a child with his first toy.
i Can't express my gratitude. I have no words to thank the enormous effort and dedication to everything including the magnificent red box and certificate.
It's a luxury to me that you built this car. He has also been a luxury all the information and the seriousness with which you responded at all.
Once again 917'S THANK YOU MING
My pleasure, Lluis - likewise you have been a fantastic customer! I think this is the best car I've built so far - by a long stretch. It's good to have it go to a good home! |
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MING
Thank you for all the wonderful work done with the Porsche 917 K.
I opened the box carefully and with the illusion of a child with his first toy.
i Can't express my gratitude. I have no words to thank the enormous effort and dedication to everything including the magnificent red box and certificate.
It's a luxury to me that you built this car. He has also been a luxury all the information and the seriousness with which you responded at all.
Once again 917'S THANK YOU MING |
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March 26, 2010 |
I love everything! Amazing. I wish I had more than 1 I like it to give you! |
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March 26, 2010 |
thi is amazing wonderfulllll |
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March 25, 2010 |
Nelis - love what you do with 'proper' lego. Everything looks so much more solid.
Jonathan and Dr. Mcsquiz - thanks! |
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March 25, 2010 |
Nelis - love what you do with 'proper' lego. Everything looks so much more solid.
Jonathan and Dr. Mcsquiz - thanks! |
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Very cool bigscale car! Looks realy nice! Check out my big scale cars sometime... |
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March 25, 2010 |
oh my gosh that is amazing! incredible work there. i wish i could build like that. |
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March 25, 2010 |
it's-beautiful 'sniff' |
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March 25, 2010 |
Quoting CC-1999 "Warfare"
wow, great job, I think even lego might use this model for a set
That'd be the day...but thanks anyway! |
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March 25, 2010 |
wow, great job, I think even lego might use this model for a set |
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March 25, 2010 |
Quoting Anthony Dunne
Quoting Anthony Dunne Simply amazing! This car is just awesome- very recognizable! The cars functional are great- like the engine, the steering, gearbox, and the opening features are just amazing! I am just wondering- how much would it cost to have one of these made? First I am guessing the customer purchases the two sets, and then mail them off to you, and then you charge accordingly to man hours? Beautiful car, once again! Keep building! -Anthony Dunne
Thanks! Yes, it's something along those lines. Drop me an email if you're interested :)
Hello Ming, what is your email address- i am interested in one of these- either now, or hopefully in the future- it is spectacular! -Anthony Dunne
Excellent - it's mingthein@gmail.com. Thanks! |
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Quoting Anthony Dunne Simply amazing! This car is just awesome- very recognizable! The cars functional are great- like the engine, the steering, gearbox, and the opening features are just amazing! I am just wondering- how much would it cost to have one of these made? First I am guessing the customer purchases the two sets, and then mail them off to you, and then you charge accordingly to man hours? Beautiful car, once again! Keep building! -Anthony Dunne
Thanks! Yes, it's something along those lines. Drop me an email if you're interested :)
Hello Ming, what is your email address- i am interested in one of these- either now, or hopefully in the future- it is spectacular! -Anthony Dunne |
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March 23, 2010 |
Quoting Flaré .
This is just OUTSTANDING! This is the best LEGO car I have EVER seen, I'm sure this was pretty expensive... if it wasn't I'd order one! =D
Thanks Flare! Well, think about it...two flagship sets plus building time :)
Quoting Ben Schevers
Realy outstanding. the way you sqeezed the functions in your model is realy great. It's hard to make a nice body if you add slot of functions. Weldone
Thanks Ben!
Quoting Stocky 10
How do you make these!? They are amazing! Great scale and nice detail! 5/5
Actually I'm not sure. I figure out what the key mechanical characteristics are, then build them bit by bit. No instructions or recycled modules, of course! |
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March 23, 2010 |
How do you make these!? They are amazing!
Great scale and nice detail!
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March 23, 2010 |
Realy outstanding. the way you sqeezed the functions in your model is realy great. It's hard to make a nice body if you add slot of functions. Weldone |
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March 23, 2010 |
This is just OUTSTANDING! This is the best LEGO car I have EVER seen, I'm sure this was pretty expensive... if it wasn't I'd order one! =D |
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March 23, 2010 |
Quoting marc van den akker
what an car the therrs offyour hand i am a fan off yuor work speciaal the red bugatti will you give me your a maili have a few qwestions a bout the bugattigr marrc amsterdam holland
mingthein@gmail.com. Cheers! |
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what an car the therrs offyour hand i am a fan off yuor work speciaal the red bugatti will you give me your a maili have a few qwestions a bout the bugattigr marrc amsterdam holland |
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March 22, 2010 |
Quoting Dude 1
Dude that is AWSOME!!!! It looks better than the real thing! Incedible detail, can't belive you built that from only two sets. 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/5!
AWSOME! Whish I could buy it!
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March 22, 2010 |
Quoting Dude 1
Dude that is AWSOME!!!! It looks better than the real thing! Incedible detail, can't belive you built that from only two sets. 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/5!
AWSOME! Whish I could buy it!
Haha. Thanks! |
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March 22, 2010 |
Dude that is AWSOME!!!! It looks better than the real thing! Incedible detail, can't belive you built that from only two sets. 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/5!
AWSOME! Whish I could buy it! |
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March 22, 2010 |
Quoting Matt James
Fantastic, saw the link and had to spend some time studying it. Love the gearbox details, and the shape is very well done. Great work mate.I wish I had more time to get more of my large scale technic car projects done!
Thanks! looking forward to see how your 8C turns out. |
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March 22, 2010 |
Fantastic, saw the link and had to spend some time studying it. Love the gearbox details, and the shape is very well done. Great work mate.I wish I had more time to get more of my large scale technic car projects done! |
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March 21, 2010 |
Quoting Anthony Dunne
Simply amazing! This car is just awesome- very recognizable! The cars functional are great- like the engine, the steering, gearbox, and the opening features are just amazing! I am just wondering- how much would it cost to have one of these made? First I am guessing the customer purchases the two sets, and then mail them off to you, and then you charge accordingly to man hours? Beautiful car, once again! Keep building! -Anthony Dunne
Thanks! Yes, it's something along those lines. Drop me an email if you're interested :) |
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Simply amazing! This car is just awesome- very recognizable! The cars functional are great- like the engine, the steering, gearbox, and the opening features are just amazing! I am just wondering- how much would it cost to have one of these made? First I am guessing the customer purchases the two sets, and then mail them off to you, and then you charge accordingly to man hours? Beautiful car, once again! Keep building! -Anthony Dunne |
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March 21, 2010 |
Quoting VILA LLUIS
Well, I'm the customer of this Porsche 917 k , for me it's a real dream have this car, The e.mail comunication with Ming was excelent , a lot of e.mails in all directions, BRILLANT WORK, and I send my PUBLIC CONGRATULATIONS to MING for this excelent car. I wait like a children with her first car toy ( I'm 45 years old), the UPS truck.
M I N G 9 1 7 T H A N K S for all.
And thanks for the opportunity - great to work with you!
Dax - yep, just those two sets. But there were so few parts left over afterwards, it makes you feel like the two original cars were pretty hollow (even though the same size)...
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Well, I'm the customer of this Porsche 917 k , for me it's a real dream have this car, The e.mail comunication with Ming was excelent , a lot of e.mails in all directions, BRILLANT WORK, and I send my PUBLIC CONGRATULATIONS to MING for this excelent car. I wait like a children with her first car toy ( I'm 45 years old), the UPS truck.
M I N G 9 1 7 T H A N K S for all. |
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March 21, 2010 |
Gotta say that this is one of the best technic cars I've ever seen :) Is it seriously made from just those two sets? Dang... |
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March 21, 2010 |
Outstanding! That's one of the finest LEGO cars I've ever seen, and it's one of my favorite Porsches, too. Also, let me be the first to say how impressive the presentation was. I always like to see some nice, high-quality pictures. |
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March 21, 2010 |
Incredible!!! This is the best 917 in technic form I've ever seen! 100,000,000,000...(1 year later),000,000/10 PLEASE CHECK OUT MINE!!! |
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March 21, 2010 |
Outstanding creation !!! |
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March 21, 2010 |
Quoting Jurgen Krooshoop
Absolutely Gorgeos, a true work of art.
Thanks Jurgen! |
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March 21, 2010 |
Absolutely Gorgeos, a true work of art. |
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March 21, 2010 |
Quoting Ape Fight
I'm not not normally a fan of 'built to order' MOCs, although they are always epic builds, but this is, well, the best car on MOCpages. My new favourite creation on the whole site - this is perfect! 10/10, I hope the buyer is pleased with the results - they'll have an amazing replica : )
Thank you. I'd never agree to build something I didn't want to - after all, it's still a hobby! |
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March 21, 2010 |
I'm not not normally a fan of 'built to order' MOCs, although they are always epic builds, but this is, well, the best car on MOCpages. My new favourite creation on the whole site - this is perfect! 10/10, I hope the buyer is pleased with the results - they'll have an amazing replica : ) |
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March 21, 2010 |
Thank you for the kind words and comments everybody!
Andy - yes, this one was built to order. If you're seriously interested drop me an email - mingthein@gmail.com |
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March 21, 2010 |
I-N-C-R-E-D-I-B-L-E I LOVE IT! PLEASE CHECK OUT MU FERRARI ENZO, FERRARI 458 AND MORGAN AEROMAX. THANKS. |
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March 21, 2010 |
outstanding! now I have to build a super car or race car. |
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March 21, 2010 |
One great moc! The picture quality is fantastic too. |
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March 21, 2010 |
amazing work and superb photos. |
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March 21, 2010 |
10/5, best moc i have ever seen!!! the porsche 917k is my favorite car!! is there any way to buy that!! that is the coolest moc ever, great, amazing, perfect, fabulous job |
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Josh L March 20, 2010 |
Unrivaled. |
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March 20, 2010 |
Quoting Bonald 1101
Yippee!! You're back! Thank God you didn't have to destroy the GTO, I might have cried... Brilliant!!!!
A long hiatus due to work and lack of parts (thank you my friend, you know who you are - the car will be on its way to you soon) - yes, I don't think I could bring myself to tear the GTO down except to build a better one. However, the 917K will be off to its new home very soon. :( |
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March 20, 2010 |
Quoting Josh L
Unrivaled.
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March 20, 2010 |
Yippee!! You're back! Thank God you didn't have to destroy the GTO, I might have cried... Brilliant!!!! |
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