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Super Star Destroyer - Construction Journal Entry 1: Design
The design stage for my biggest project to date, the Super Star Destroyer from Star Wars Episodes 5 and 6.
About this creation
Intro
After building “Home One” I thought I’d get sick of building large ships and move onto something else. But it’s just too damn tempting! So next up is my biggest project to date (in fact it’s about twice as big as all my other ships combined!): The Super Star Destoryer from Star Wars Episodes 5 and 6.

Given the enormity of the project I’ve decided to document the stages of its assembly using construction journal entries a la Kelso. Entry one is a look at the initial design stages. The design process takes a while but its neccessary to make sure everythng will look good. I don't want to spend a year building the ship and then realize the angles aren't right!

Step One - CAD
The first thing to do was to find the appropriate design program. There’s basically four possibilities: MlCAD, LeoCAD, SR 3 Builder, and Lego Digital Designer. The first three can load large models, but being able to manipulate the pieces gets slower with each additional brick. I decided to use Digital Designer to design the different segments of the ship because LDD’s response time moving brick around is nearly instantaneous, even in 10,000 piece models. After each segment is complete I will export it to Mlcad and assemble the whole ship there.

Step Two - Size
If I wanted to build a super star destroyer to scale with Lego’s official star destroyer it would Literally have to be 39 feet long, contain about 1.6 million pieces, weigh about 2500 pounds, and cost about a quarter of a million dollars. To be reasonable, I decided to go with a 1/3 ISD scale replica. This still makes it a whopping 13 feet long. The piece count will be about 100,000 and the cost about US $10,000-$15,000 if using used parts.

Conclusion
Below are some pictures of the initial design work along with my commentary about them. Thanks to all of you who visit my mocs and comment on them, without you none of this could be possible... ah who am I kidding, I still could do it.

Check out higher resolution pics in my Brickshelf folder.






It took forever to get the shape correct. I decided not to use wedge plates for the edges of the wings beacue the angles of the ship would never be accurate. Instead, I made the angles of the wings custom by connecting stright edges with hinge pieces.






The reason no one (as far as I know) uses this technique is because of the ugly jaggedy shape that is created at the cusp of the wings along the ship's length.






To hide all the jagged edges I'm going to use another layer of tiles, one plate height higher, that can slide smoothly over the lower layer. Thanks to Kelso, I now only do SNOT ships, this one will be all SNOT.






The ship will be 485 studs long or about 13 feet. The actual model used for the movie was around 8 feet in length.






I'm still not sure if I want to add any transparent blue tiles along the trench and in the city on top. At this scale, they would not look realistic, but they would look damn cool all lit up!








After I did a basic frame of the ship I went into the more detailed aspect of the design, I started with the hardest part, the engine section underneath. Just this part took about six weeks.








The lower image is one of the few detailed shots of the real engine section I could find. It was taken by a fan at a convention and posted on the Star Wars tecnhical commentaries website. It doesn't help that the left side of the ship is NOT a mirror image of the other, now I gotta do twice the work! My engine section above already contains around 8,000 pieces. Notice that I'm only one third of the way done the back!






Close-up of the portside engines. I wanted to make this ship as close to the real one as possible, including the small details. The Dark Gray engine cylinders are just place holders, I still haven't decided which exact pieces to use.





The styrene chips the model makers used for greebles on the real ship are mimicked using my patented greeble technique of alternating 1x1 modified plates. I discovered it by accident when I ran out of 1x1 gray plates on my banking clan frigate.






By some miracle I was able to make the bent part underneath the wing mix nicely with the straight segment towards the center. Making double sided mocs is a pain in the butt!






For an approximate size comparison I compared the overall length of my ship with a Lamborghini Gollardo. I think I'm gonna have to build this in my garage.






The empire uses millions of slaves to construct their warships. Here, slave Kelso is hard at work on the carburetor.





Comments

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  November 10, 2013
Big props to you my friend. I use LDD for all my mocs because for one I dont own any physical legos anymore and two its faster than sifting through a pile of bricks. Most impressive. Will be looking forward to the finished work.
  September 7, 2013
I like what you have done & wish to see your version. I too have built and I am again building a nearly twelve foot version. I would suggest using the engines from the Ultimate Collector Series Star Destroyer if you can find them. I plan on having mine completed by the next Comicon in Phoenix Az., 2014. Good luck with your build!
  January 19, 2012
Any progress? Mayby some pics of the building stage?
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  November 17, 2011
can someone please send me an ldd file demonstrating how to get the wedge shape of a star destroyer? cannot figure it out. my email is sangyoons@gmail.com
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  March 31, 2011
Hey that was some preety cool building. I love Star Wars, (who dosn't)? So keep up the good work. (P.S. that was relly funny stuff with slave Kelso, I think you where realating to Mark Kelso. HAHAHAHAHA
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  January 18, 2011
Ahh screw it, I'll add another post next week.
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  January 14, 2011
I wish you success in your model, both the LDD and real version. I wish my computer could show that many parts on LDD.
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  January 14, 2011
Man, this looks awesome! But, if you´re going to build this for real, you are probably gonna die as an old man with a long beard and an unfinished MOC. Btw, what are going to sell in order to buy all the parts? Your car, your house, your wife?? Ups... ;-P Just kidding. Hats off man, you are a briliant builder! ~Cheers
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  January 13, 2011
I was "praying" for the suite of this KJE.HG,UFKHG,NIZL,SKLSIKJG ship !!!!! From so far it is one of my favorite ship !! But HOW will you recognise the plan ?? I mean, you gonna have thousand and thousand parts so how will you remember the first section you draw on LDD ?? How will be the beginning of construction ??
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  January 11, 2011
Quoting James Evans When is the next construction journal ever going to be posted? I've been checking Mocpages since the day this was created, once or twice every twenty four hours. But recently this has become a chore as nothing is happening! Still, I'm very impressed with the model so far, I know it will look great when it is finished. You should make a careeer out of Mocing!
Wow, twice a day? You need a life! I took a break to work on my screenplay, but am currently back at it. I never realised how tedious it would be to design the city on top. That alone has taken the last three months and I'm only half done! The next post will likely be the finished design, expect it in six months. :)
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  January 11, 2011
When is the next construction journal ever going to be posted? I've been checking Mocpages since the day this was created, once or twice every twenty four hours. But recently this has become a chore as nothing is happening! Still, I'm very impressed with the model so far, I know it will look great when it is finished. You should make a careeer out of Mocing!
  October 30, 2010
why is the ship seem wider then longer??
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  October 21, 2010
post instructions please
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  July 22, 2010
Ohh, holy crap.....I belive you may match and even triumph over mr kelso. this will be most epic when finished
Thomas Benedikt
Jasper Vinkenvleugel
  June 17, 2010
I see that you have used lego LDD, get that program does not slow when you have so many stones? to me that is precisely true. greetings jasper
  June 17, 2010
it might be a st up id question, but how far have you come on it? sorry for asking, i would reallly like to see it finished! XD
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  May 19, 2010
Wow, you must really be patient to sit and design that all. Do you place most pieces by "hand" or do you copy and paste sections to save time? That is truly amazing.
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  May 15, 2010
awesome moc, I would never have the patience to build that.
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  May 7, 2010
WOW!!!!! that looks amazing! i cant wait for the finished one! btw i was wondering if you could comment on mine http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/201578
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  March 14, 2010
Good job so far. Enterprise-E might be able to help you out a lot with a high poly 3D model of the SSD: http://enterprise-e.deviantart.com/art/Ave-Executor-87883221 Or at the very least, here's another picture of the back. Hope this helps
Thomas Benedikt
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Michael Sloper
  February 14, 2010
Wow, this looks like this will be huge! The engine detail made my jaw drop. I had no idea how someone could add that much. Oh, and if it's not too much, could you comment on my executor when you get the time? I would really like your opinion on it. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/185676
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  February 11, 2010
Amazing creation, can't wait till you're finished, by the huge amount of parts you're using i'm suggesting that you can extract the part count somehow on LDD, could you tell me how you do this? I'm currently busy making a battleship myself but i'm not sure if i counted all the parts right. Counting everything manually gets kinda annoying when you're using several thousand parts.
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  December 11, 2009
Looking great so far. Oh, and by the way, the link to James Harrison's page on your homepage is not working. He's still here though, so I suggest you redo it.
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  November 29, 2009
holy... how much does it cost?
  November 25, 2009
lol "slave Kelso". It's going to be just short of impossible to complete, but if you manage it, this will be one of the greatest Lego MOCs ever created
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  November 8, 2009
Im curious how much this is going to cost...
  October 27, 2009
Look's like you're doing it again, we are going nuts with these projects you keep popping up with, please have mercy on our sanity.... Another great job coming up, thanks for this work, you ARE the best on the web. btw, might these pictures help you with anything ? http://www.theforce.net/swtc/exhibit/executor.html
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  October 24, 2009
i like it i like it a lot ! but that does not mean that you are not insane!
  October 19, 2009
"I always design my mocs before actual construction" Does this mean that you have the complete instructions? (digital) Is it possible that you can put it online? Or is that to much work?
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  October 18, 2009
one word for you wow!!!!
Thomas Benedikt
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Jack Bacchus
  October 17, 2009
About 80 instruction booklets for the whole thing.
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  October 16, 2009
Whoow!! This is going to be so awesome! Please keep us posted on your progress with the design and when you start the build, i want lots of pictures. A couple years ago i build the super star destroyer that lasse deleuran's has designed, but this one is going to be like 3-4 times as big!
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  October 15, 2009
Great work! I honestly can't imagine being able to ever do that. Yeah, "That LDD Guy", that's what kids used to say in kindergarten: Yeah I would have/could have _____, but I didn't want to. Now it has evolved to: Yeah, I would have/could have/did _____, but the computer crashed.
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  October 14, 2009
Very ambitious undertaking. I cant wait to see the finished product...when will it be complete, 2013? ;-)
Thomas Benedikt
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That LDD Guy
  October 9, 2009
People, before we bought a new computer, I had a 18 foot long, massively more detailed version of my XWV-17B starship. But then (tear drips from cheek) we got a crappy new computer and I lost every single LDD file I had. This is to all the people marveling at how big it is. Don't get me wrong, its great but its not SPR HUGE.
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  October 9, 2009
Quoting That LDD Guy People, before we bought a new computer, I had a 18 foot long, massively more detailed version of my XWV-17B starship. But then (tear drips from cheek) we got a new computer and I lost every single LDD file I had. This is to all the people marveling at how big it is. Don't get me wrong, its great but its not SPR HUGE.
OMG...Nub...This is just the design process for the REAL build. By the way, unless you can prove it, the most amazing digital design ever is what this guy, http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/67193, is working on.
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  October 9, 2009
To LDD Guy: It's not that the LDD version is huge that we're excited about, it's the fact that Thomas is going to ACTUALLY build it! That's what takes it over the edge in our minds. ~ Chris.
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  October 7, 2009
Incredible. your best creation yet! you should add 1 by 1 red round pieces on the engnes. You should also do the blue in the cotex but not the side. I did an experiment on my version of lasse deleuran's executor (he used the same technique) and it looked quite nice (even better lit up)also the engines look great for place markers. you might as well not change them!!!!!
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  October 3, 2009
That thing is ENORMOUS!!! Just the engine section blows me away!! and thats just the ENGINES!!!! When I get older and have a decent paying job and some dang money, If this is still available on LDD, I will buy it.. hands down.. and make sure some of the money gets to you.. like 4/5 of it.. so u can buy supplies for new ships (if you still do it in like 20-25 years) XD
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  October 2, 2009
WOW! The enormity of this project makes my brain bleed and my eyeballs swell! But, if anyone can actually build this thing, it's you. I do think you should use trans pieces for some of the details, cuz this thing lit up would be beyond awesome. Good luck!
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  September 29, 2009
Haha ... i like that last pic ... "slave Kelso" hard at work building "your" Super Star Destroyer. (lol) =]
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  September 26, 2009
Its so big, my head cannot comprehend it's enormous scale. 13 FEET!??! DANG!!!! On your voyage to the completion of the Executor , on behalf of Kuat Drive Yards, may the force be with you.
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  September 26, 2009
OMFG!!!!! to big to even think about!!!!!
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  September 25, 2009
bow down!
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  September 25, 2009
After this, we can all get together and build a minifig scale version of this ship! I think the Cincinnati Bengals have not used their football stadium in a while, we can build it there! We might need a government bailout to pay for it, and if we did that, we would need a minifig of Obama sitting in an imperial throne somewhere on the ship, but it might be worth it.
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  September 24, 2009
This is quite possibly going to be the best lego executor, ever. Good luck!
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  September 24, 2009
i wish i could sware because this is beeping amazing i love this this will take more than a day to build goodluck
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  September 23, 2009
@Robert: This ship will cost between $10-15K, so building another of roughly the same siz ewill cost roughly the same amount. ----- Jesus christ thats big! How do you plan on standing it (if it is ever built)?
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  September 23, 2009
I've seen me a lot of Super Star Destroyers, but none of them as large in size of yours. Can't wait to see the final result.
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  September 23, 2009
.....awesome. you should build the Eclipse to scale with this monstrosity of a ship. did you know that the Eclipse is smaller than the Executor? Eclipse - 17.5 km Executor - 19 km
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  September 22, 2009
Holy mother of god. That is probably the most impressive thing I have seen on here. If I see that completed, I may just wet myself.
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  September 22, 2009
This...is...AWESOME!!!!!PLEASE join my group,"501st Commandos!"
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  September 22, 2009
You sir are insane. Also build it with the lights.
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  September 22, 2009
lol, slave Kelso :D
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  September 22, 2009
wow you have a lot of time on your hands and a fast computer. whenever i try to build something huge my computer like just freezes
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  September 22, 2009
This will be fun to follow. Thanks for sharing.
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  September 22, 2009
Hey, with a potential masterpiece like this, I'm just happy to be involved! So when do I get a bathroom break? (ps - this should be the end all, be all for Star Wars ships in Lego. Best of luck, and looking forward to it!)
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  September 22, 2009
sweet
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  September 22, 2009
This deserves an MOTD, and I'm gonna add you to my Fav builders.
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  September 19, 2009
as he said below me W.O.W. World of WOWness!i can't even comprehend how awesome this minifig scale super star destroyer really is.
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  September 18, 2009
W. O. W.
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  September 17, 2009
meep
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  September 17, 2009
Nice! How long did it take you to build this?
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  September 17, 2009
This is incredible! 13 feet! Thats amazing!
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  September 17, 2009
speachless
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  September 15, 2009
when it's done i forgot and you are skilled. You make lego builders suck wait they aready do but realy good job i hope you can upload it to lego.com so when people open it and build it they will thank you for doing this
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  September 15, 2009
Dude can u send this to the gallary i want this so bad it would give me something to do when i'm bored.
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  September 15, 2009
Wow, 13 feet. You'll be booked for a while man, but I think that it will be great in the end. Can't wait to see the finished product. Good luck! -Dylan
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  September 15, 2009
Hey, you said it's a CAD, but which one is it? It looks like SR3D builder, but I'm not sure. Also, what OS do you run? There's no way my computer could handle something that big, but I run Vista, so I'm wondering if that's why.
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  September 15, 2009
You give me the shivers. Where are you now, then park the Lamborghini, if you build in the garage :-)
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  September 15, 2009
If you're doing that sorta stuff... minifig scale?
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  September 15, 2009
Hey everyone, thanks for all the kind words. Responding to a few comments: 1. Yes I know it's a CAD, I always design my mocs before actual construction. 2. All my mocs are still intact (somewhere) since I sold most of them for parts. 3. I didn't want to do an 8-footer because this master builder who works for Lego already built one: http://www.millionaireplayboy.com/toys/jenslegodesigner.php
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  September 14, 2009
*blink*
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  September 14, 2009
WOW! $10,000 !!! I DO hope you plan on seling this to George Lucas to at the very least turn a 50% profit on it. How long do you think this will take? It would take me 10 years to get this MOC past my Appropriations Committee (the wife). I'll keep my eye on this one for sure. I pretty much just build sky-scrapers, and getting to visit them before I start them let's me take LOTS of pictures, to help me get the colors and angles right. I can't imagine building something this big without getting to see one in quasi-real life first. Good Luck, and may the force be with you!
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  September 14, 2009
ofcourse it is supposed to look like star destroyer (imperator class so the common one) for one thing it's built by the same people, Mon Cal ships look similar to eachother too
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  September 14, 2009
This is NOT one of my favourite ships, it reminds me to much of the imperial star destroyer, however when Thomas is building it on this scale and with such a detail this will become my favourite ship. Looking at the LDD pics it feels so mighty, that it is not human anymore. After all what would you expect...Mon Calamari was the absolute top, can he do even better, bigger? You're the best...To be continued.
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  September 14, 2009
The scale of this is just... just... beyond words! You picked a helluva project for yourself. Can't wait to see the next progress!
Thomas Benedikt
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CEO Wraith
  September 13, 2009
This will redefine the word awesome when complete. You must have a really good performance computer to do this, I primarily build with LDD and mine has issues with large models.
Thomas Benedikt
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* Padfoot *
  September 13, 2009
*0* !wow! *wets himself*
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  September 13, 2009
Oh my God. That is amazing! I can't wait to see it all laid out it bricks - this is so cool.
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  September 13, 2009
This is only gonna cost you what... 7 million dollars? I can't wait 'till it's done!
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  September 13, 2009
Poor Kelso but I're gonna spend a LOT of time in this. I'm anxious to see the final result!
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  September 13, 2009
I am frild that you have decide to build this and I hope that you can do it we are all provde here on MOCpages, Good luck.
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  September 13, 2009
Looking Awesome! Can't wait for the final build
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  September 13, 2009
man! you really need a hobby! What? Oh. Lego's, right...
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  September 13, 2009
HOLY HORUS SON OF OSIRIS, YOU ARE A GOD!!! This is comparable to the construction of the Pyramids, my friend- just keep building.
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  September 13, 2009
and the beast shall be built! but wait, its not over! if he finishes this he wont contain himself! and he will build the eclipse! ~gasp~ ha. well good luck buddy. i hope you actually have the gray to do this! (or the money for bricklink)
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  September 13, 2009
Whoa... Dude... One day I'd like to make something this big. That's still years off for me though. Hope you can get all the money nessacary for this, you'll have the greatest SSD in all the lego world.
  September 13, 2009
If you really do this It'd be great! Man take photos of it as soon as you do it!
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  September 13, 2009
Wow this would be like over 2000 dollars! It's cool but I don't like that fact it's virtual.
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  September 13, 2009
All i have to say: OMG. Btw, how much did it cost on ldd? Wow, that must have taken a long time to build on ldd.
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  September 13, 2009
OMG! THIS IS GONNA BE HUGE! I'M ADDING YOU AS A FAV AND KEEPING TRACK OF THIS! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT DONE!!!!! AND THE SLAVE KELSO THING WAS FUNNY! ANYWAY GREAT DESIGN AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT PART!
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  September 13, 2009
So far so good! Now I would love to see this thing next to Kelso's Invisible Hand.
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  September 13, 2009
Simply amazing. Wondering if 1/5 ISD, which would be closer to studio scale, couldn't work as a result of the flat section build ups, detail challenges, or whatever. Looking forward to Kelso's adventures.
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  September 13, 2009
I'm already incredibly impressed and excited. I feel like I should say "good luck" on your endeavor, but after seeing your previous works, I know you won't need luck, because you've got all skill.
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  September 13, 2009
Wow man that is looking great and it is going to be huge! I think you should go with the lights to light up the city, it would look great
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  September 13, 2009
My god. If you finish this you will truly be the god of Star Wars LEGO. I do have to ask however, how many of your models are still built? =)
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  September 13, 2009
You are a master Thomas! I can't wait to see this masterpiece, what could be one of your greatest, finished! Keep us updated!
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  September 13, 2009
Haha, this is madness indeed. But the very best kind of madness, of course!
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  September 13, 2009
Well, what is left to be said. But, if this is to be done, then you are the man to do it. My hat is off, and "break a leg". Lee
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  September 13, 2009
First, the choice of model : The Super Star Destroyer is the best ship I ever seen in a movie. This construction journal entry is also very well done (slave Kelso ! lol) - In conclusion : you must be mad. But I love this kind of madness ! Can't wait to see it finished. Totally awesome !
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  September 13, 2009
Thomas, you are rediculous.
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  September 13, 2009
Can't wait to see this done! The size of it looks quite stunning.:D Hehehe, slave Kelso... ~ Ghostman :)
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  September 13, 2009
Good to see someone who is taking it serious all the way... I will stick to the process and am already extremely curious on how you take the advantage. Great that you will document the process! THANKS!!!
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  September 13, 2009
o.O
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  September 13, 2009
o_O Woah. The details, and sheer size os this craft are amazatastic! That's not even a word, that's how awesome this is! Now, just wondering...*clicks price check button and faints*
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  September 13, 2009
'0'
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  September 13, 2009
f-f-f-first....YOU...im so speechless...this is...frickin my eye is seriously twitching im not kidding. You make some of the best stuff on this site, i mean Home One wasn't enough? Hah! Now we have the brilliant Executor! I cant wait to see this finished it will be beautiful. If legos were to create a soul of themselves out of human flesh it would be you my friend XD best of luck and I hope to see it in person one day!
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  September 13, 2009
how much does this cost!? astounding work thomas! you continue to amaze me! 5/5! even if its still a WIP
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  September 13, 2009
I'll never figure out how you have that much spare time and money do do these things, but whatever is keeping you going is just amazing! You know if you still have your Home One, and if you made an assortment of other scale ships like corvettes, there could be an accurate representation of the battle of Endor.....you just need the Death Star.....
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  September 13, 2009
seriously just build it in CAD it looks great and we get the idea. if you build that 39 foot monster there wont be any LEGO left on the entire east coast. :o do it.
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  September 13, 2009
Dude... I have no words here. The thought of creating a SHIP that size is just... mindboggling! Our minds CAN'T repel greatness of that magnitude! (ok, that joke woulda gone better on "Home One" but hey, something about beggers and choosers here) All I can say is good luck man and we're all cheering you on! Get to it! ~ Chris.
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  September 13, 2009
OMG! Simply astounding! When I saw a new creation from you I was so excited! I'm sure it will look formidable when it's done.
 
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