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This is where you can add any lotr facts that come to mind. If you think other people might not know it please put it down.
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| November 6, 2009, 4:50 pm
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Im pretty much a LOTR nerd but im proud of it. Well here it goes...

Arwen was considered the most beautiful mortal since luthien from the silmarrilion who married beren

In the books it was glorfindel nor arwen who took frodo to rivendell after weathertop.

Tom Bomnbadil was a very powerful spirit. He had the power to overthrow sauron but found no reason to so he didnt.

Gothmog from the ROTK was named after the first Balrog of Morgoth.

Orcs are really just elves that were changed by saurons evil magic.

Ecthelion of the fountain, Gandalf and glorfindel were the only three ever to slay a balrog singlehandedly

The first dragon of middle earth had no wings.
Many of the famous weapons found in minas tirith were heirlooms of the lost city of Gondolin.

The greatest archer in LOTR history was beleg strongbow who was accidentally killed by his own friend turin turinbar.

Morgoth was the creator of the balrogs

Sauron originally lived in NUmenor

THe mother of shelob whose name is Ungoliant was feared by morgotha and was the spider that not only poisened, but suck the life out of the trees of light.

Legolas and Gimli traveled together after the lote through fangorn and the glittering caves in helms deep until finally leaving on a ship to the west after the leave of frodo.

Aragorn ruled for over one hundred years.

The horse Shadowfax that was rode by gandalf was a gift from theoden of rohan

shadowfax was one of the mayir.(or however u spell it)

Cirith ungol and minas morgul were both gondorian outposta to keep an eye on sauron but were captured afetr the guard was lowered since there was no sign of activity from sauron.

Minas tirith has 7 levels

Morgoth was never truly killed. He was chained in powerful magic inbued chains and taken to the west

The witch king was the first enemy ever to walk through the gates of minas tirith

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| November 6, 2009, 4:56 pm
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Quoting Mark Legorski
Nice, I knew most of that before, and I'm pretty sure that I'm no LOTR nerd. I only read the books twice, and I'm hoping to read more of the middle earth saga if I ever find the time. btw the Balrog were not created by Morgoth, they were fallen Maia that followed the path of Morgoth poisoned by this evil (I believe that Maia were created by Eru, but still got to read the Salmarillion)


Ur right thats what i meant with the balrog. I knew morgoth didnt create them he just sorta bound them to him basically.

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| November 6, 2009, 6:33 pm
anyone knows how the land of elvens are called??
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| November 7, 2009, 1:46 pm
<<<< Quoting Mark Legorski
In middle earth or in the time of the eldar?

I think middle earth.
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| November 7, 2009, 2:22 pm
<<<< Quoting Mark Legorski
Well on middle earth they live in the forests of Lorien, and Rivendale, and other smaller residents (ex. by the sea)

no I meant the plce where they originated from.
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| November 7, 2009, 2:35 pm
Saruman took over the Shire while Frodo was away.
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| November 7, 2009, 2:57 pm
Quoting Mark Legorski
Yup, only to die ....

Oh well, it was comin' to him.
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| November 7, 2009, 3:19 pm
And his name that the evil hobbits called him was "Sharky" which comes from the orcish word sharku, which means old man. I too, am an LOTR nerd.
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| February 12, 2010, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Landkreuzer P.1000 ratte
<<<< Quoting Mark Legorski
Well on middle earth they live in the forests of Lorien, and Rivendale, and other smaller residents (ex. by the sea)

no I meant the plce where they originated from.

If my memory serves me right they originated in valinor and then moved to middle earth only to travel west back to the hidden lands of valinor
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| February 12, 2010, 10:32 pm
Odd fact about the sword Narsil.

When the blade was reforged, It was 2/8 of an inch shorter.
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| March 19, 2010, 6:22 pm
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Quoting Aidan Moon
“Labo vi Orodruin” means "Go jump in mount doom" in elvish and “Ava vanta i salquessë” means keep off the grass.

Theodens sister was named Theodwyn

Sam had 13 kids

Ungoliant was the mother of Shelob


Thorin III was the son of Dain II

Cirdan is the oldest elf who lived during the third age

Durin's Bane was probably the last Balrog

Unknown creatures created the stairs to the top of Zirakzigil
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| April 12, 2011, 6:51 am
In the LotR cartoon movie, Legolas took Frodo to Rivendell after the "Weathertop Incident"
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| March 29, 2012, 5:53 pm
Quoting William .
Im pretty much a LOTR nerd but im proud of it. Well here it goes...

Arwen was considered the most beautiful mortal since luthien from the silmarrilion who married beren

In the books it was glorfindel nor arwen who took frodo to rivendell after weathertop.

Tom Bomnbadil was a very powerful spirit. He had the power to overthrow sauron but found no reason to so he didnt.

Gothmog from the ROTK was named after the first Balrog of Morgoth.

Orcs are really just elves that were changed by saurons evil magic.

Ecthelion of the fountain, Gandalf and glorfindel were the only three ever to slay a balrog singlehandedly

The first dragon of middle earth had no wings.
Many of the famous weapons found in minas tirith were heirlooms of the lost city of Gondolin.

The greatest archer in LOTR history was beleg strongbow who was accidentally killed by his own friend turin turinbar.

Morgoth was the creator of the balrogs

Sauron originally lived in NUmenor

THe mother of shelob whose name is Ungoliant was feared by morgotha and was the spider that not only poisened, but suck the life out of the trees of light.

Legolas and Gimli traveled together after the lote through fangorn and the glittering caves in helms deep until finally leaving on a ship to the west after the leave of frodo.

Aragorn ruled for over one hundred years.

The horse Shadowfax that was rode by gandalf was a gift from theoden of rohan

shadowfax was one of the mayir.(or however u spell it)

Cirith ungol and minas morgul were both gondorian outposta to keep an eye on sauron but were captured afetr the guard was lowered since there was no sign of activity from sauron.

Minas tirith has 7 levels

Morgoth was never truly killed. He was chained in powerful magic inbued chains and taken to the west

The witch king was the first enemy ever to walk through the gates of minas tirith


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| March 29, 2012, 8:21 pm
LOTR has a lot of deep theological meaning. (as Tolkien was a devout Catholic) some examples include:

Boromir represents a human.
Farimir represents a saint.
Aragorn represents a Priest.
The one ring represents sin.
The palantir represents TV. (this ones funny because Tolkien was trying to make a point that if you watch too much TV you'll kill yourself, like Lord Denathor.)

There's a ton more to this subject, but it would all take too long to get through.
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| March 31, 2012, 5:06 pm
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Quoting Monsterlego 1
LOTR has a lot of deep theological meaning. (as Tolkien was a devout Catholic) some examples include:

Boromir represents a human.
Farimir represents a saint.
Aragorn represents a Priest.
The one ring represents sin.
The palantir represents TV. (this ones funny because Tolkien was trying to make a point that if you watch too much TV you'll kill yourself, like Lord Denathor.)

There's a ton more to this subject, but it would all take too long to get through.

Some quite interesting facts... I didn't know about the TV thing (hehe).
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| April 1, 2012, 3:27 am
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Quoting Monsterlego 1
LOTR has a lot of deep theological meaning. (as Tolkien was a devout Catholic) some examples include:

Boromir represents a human.
Farimir represents a saint.
Aragorn represents a Priest.
The one ring represents sin.
The palantir represents TV. (this ones funny because Tolkien was trying to make a point that if you watch too much TV you'll kill yourself, like Lord Denathor.)

There's a ton more to this subject, but it would all take too long to get through.

My dear friend, I can't agree. J.R.R. Tolkien said that he don't want to write an allegory of something, every reader can see in his books what he wants. For me Aragorn can be king David and Denethor king Saul, this story is quite simmilar. There are tons of different opinions and this is the best in LoTR - everyone has his one LoTR world in his mind.
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| April 3, 2012, 2:59 am
Quoting Thomas .
My dear friend, I can't agree. J.R.R. Tolkien said that he don't want to write an allegory of something, every reader can see in his books what he wants. For me Aragorn can be king David and Denethor king Saul, this story is quite simmilar. There are tons of different opinions and this is the best in LoTR - everyone has his one LoTR world in his mind.



Yeah, i listened to a talk about this subject it was really interesting. I think your right about king Saul too.
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| April 3, 2012, 10:47 am
Quoting Aidan Moon
Tolkien did not mean for it to be allegorical. You can make it into an allegory, but Tolkien despised allegory, including John Bunyans Pilgrims Progress.


I found this online, i guess he didn't mean it as an allegory.


J.R.R. Tolkien wrote,

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."

By design The Lord of the Rings is not a Christian allegory but rather an invented myth about Christian and Catholic truths.


Quoted from.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0160.html

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| April 3, 2012, 3:02 pm
Quoting Monsterlego 1

I found this online, i guess he didn't mean it as an allegory.


J.R.R. Tolkien wrote,

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."

By design The Lord of the Rings is not a Christian allegory but rather an invented myth about Christian and Catholic truths.


Quoted from.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0160.html

True.
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| April 3, 2012, 6:15 pm
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Quoting Monsterlego 1

I found this online, i guess he didn't mean it as an allegory.


J.R.R. Tolkien wrote,

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."

By design The Lord of the Rings is not a Christian allegory but rather an invented myth about Christian and Catholic truths.


Quoted from.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0160.html

Indeed...
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| April 4, 2012, 4:50 am
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Quoting Aidan Moon
Tolkien did not mean for it to be allegorical. You can make it into an allegory, but Tolkien despised allegory, including John Bunyans Pilgrims Progress.

I agree. Tolkien didn't want it to be allegorical at all when he started his work, he just wanted to write a nice story. That's what I love so much about his books. They are free from any allusion to history or anything else.
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| April 4, 2012, 4:55 am
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Quoting Monsterlego 1

I found this online, i guess he didn't mean it as an allegory.


J.R.R. Tolkien wrote,

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."

By design The Lord of the Rings is not a Christian allegory but rather an invented myth about Christian and Catholic truths.


Quoted from.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0160.html

Yeah, that's it.
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| April 8, 2012, 3:14 pm
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Quoting Aidan Moon
Tolkien did not mean for it to be allegorical. You can make it into an allegory, but Tolkien despised allegory, including John Bunyans Pilgrims Progress.

I argee with you.
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| April 12, 2012, 1:25 pm
Did you know:
-After the Ring was destroyed, and the scouring of the Shire. Aaragorn traveled Middle-Earth in search of the rest of the Orcs, Uruk-hai, and Shelob?

-The One Ring was at the bottom of the river for almost 2000 yrs.?

-Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf hold the Elven rings of power?

-There are more than one Balrog?

-The reason Balrog's have whips, is they used to be slave drivers?

-J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the Elvish language, before he wrote the books? He used it to tell his wife things that he wasn't supposed to about the war.

I, too, am obsessed with LOTR. (=
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| April 22, 2012, 6:27 pm
Ooh, and, Frodo was able to take Sauron's place at Mount Doom, if he had wanted.
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| April 22, 2012, 6:31 pm
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Quoting The Amazing Mr. Timn
Did you know:
-After the Ring was destroyed, and the scouring of the Shire. Aaragorn traveled Middle-Earth in search of the rest of the Orcs, Uruk-hai, and Shelob?

-The One Ring was at the bottom of the river for almost 2000 yrs.?

-Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf hold the Elven rings of power?

-There are more than one Balrog?

-The reason Balrog's have whips, is they used to be slave drivers?

-J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the Elvish language, before he wrote the books? He used it to tell his wife things that he wasn't supposed to about the war.

I, too, am obsessed with LOTR. (=

Thanks for sharing Mr. Timn.
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| April 22, 2012, 8:27 pm
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Quoting The Amazing Mr. Timn
Did you know:
-After the Ring was destroyed, and the scouring of the Shire. Aaragorn traveled Middle-Earth in search of the rest of the Orcs, Uruk-hai, and Shelob?

-The One Ring was at the bottom of the river for almost 2000 yrs.?

-Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf hold the Elven rings of power?

-There are more than one Balrog?

-The reason Balrog's have whips, is they used to be slave drivers?

-J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the Elvish language, before he wrote the books? He used it to tell his wife things that he wasn't supposed to about the war.

I, too, am obsessed with LOTR. (=

I know. The Balrogs died at the end of the First Age. Durin's Bane was probably the last of his kind.
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| April 23, 2012, 9:25 am
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Quoting Michael Kringe
I know. The Balrogs died at the end of the First Age. Durin's Bane was probably the last of his kind.

Oh, that makes sense.
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| April 23, 2012, 11:27 am
You may already know this, but if Elrond hadn't healed frodo after the weathertop incident, frodo would become a ringwraith. I just find that cool. :)
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| April 30, 2012, 10:41 pm
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Quoting Zor Ember
You may already know this, but if Elrond hadn't healed frodo after the weathertop incident, frodo would become a ringwraith. I just find that cool. :)

Yeah, it's cool! I think Boromir I died by a Morgul-blade as well. Perhaps he became a wraith, who knows?...
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| May 1, 2012, 3:36 am
Quoting Michael Kringe
Yeah, it's cool! I think Boromir I died by a Morgul-blade as well. Perhaps he became a wraith, who knows?...

Yes but it was not Boromir from the fellowship.
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| May 1, 2012, 6:02 am
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Quoting Zor Ember
You may already know this, but if Elrond hadn't healed frodo after the weathertop incident, frodo would become a ringwraith. I just find that cool. :)

I can't really picture Frodo as a ringwraith;)
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| May 1, 2012, 12:24 pm
Quoting Justin M
I can't really picture Frodo as a ringwraith;)

Me neither :P
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| May 1, 2012, 3:11 pm
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Quoting Zor Ember
Me neither :P

He would be too easy to fight =b
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| May 1, 2012, 3:15 pm
Quoting Monsterlego 1
LOTR has a lot of deep theological meaning. (as Tolkien was a devout Catholic) some examples include:

Boromir represents a human.
Farimir represents a saint.
Aragorn represents a Priest.
The one ring represents sin.
The palantir represents TV. (this ones funny because Tolkien was trying to make a point that if you watch too much TV you'll kill yourself, like Lord Denathor.)

There's a ton more to this subject, but it would all take too long to get through.

What website did you get this info off of? By the way, I just realized you posted this on my b-day
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| May 1, 2012, 5:43 pm
Quoting Zor Ember
What website did you get this info off of? By the way, I just realized you posted this on my b-day


Actually i listened to a CD on the topic, although try googleing "LOTR religious meanings" and can probably find something.
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| May 1, 2012, 6:45 pm
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Quoting Zor Ember
Me neither :P

Same here=D
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| May 1, 2012, 6:50 pm
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Shall this be active again?

Minas Tirith has 7 levels!
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| June 10, 2013, 10:13 am
Quoting William .
Im pretty much a LOTR nerd but im proud of it. Well here it goes...

Arwen was considered the most beautiful mortal since luthien from the silmarrilion who married beren

In the books it was glorfindel nor arwen who took frodo to rivendell after weathertop.

Tom Bomnbadil was a very powerful spirit. He had the power to overthrow sauron but found no reason to so he didnt.

Gothmog from the ROTK was named after the first Balrog of Morgoth.

Orcs are really just elves that were changed by saurons evil magic.

Ecthelion of the fountain, Gandalf and glorfindel were the only three ever to slay a balrog singlehandedly

The first dragon of middle earth had no wings.
Many of the famous weapons found in minas tirith were heirlooms of the lost city of Gondolin.

The greatest archer in LOTR history was beleg strongbow who was accidentally killed by his own friend turin turinbar.

Morgoth was the creator of the balrogs

Sauron originally lived in NUmenor

THe mother of shelob whose name is Ungoliant was feared by morgotha and was the spider that not only poisened, but suck the life out of the trees of light.

Legolas and Gimli traveled together after the lote through fangorn and the glittering caves in helms deep until finally leaving on a ship to the west after the leave of frodo.

Aragorn ruled for over one hundred years.

The horse Shadowfax that was rode by gandalf was a gift from theoden of rohan

shadowfax was one of the mayir.(or however u spell it)

Cirith ungol and minas morgul were both gondorian outposta to keep an eye on sauron but were captured afetr the guard was lowered since there was no sign of activity from sauron.

Minas tirith has 7 levels

Morgoth was never truly killed. He was chained in powerful magic inbued chains and taken to the west

The witch king was the first enemy ever to walk through the gates of minas tirith

Morgoth was beheaded, chained and cast into the void.
I don't think Tom Bombadil had the power to overthrow Sauron. Yes, he was powerful, but I think only in his own "terretorium"
Shadowfax was a mearas, not a maiar.
Sauron lived in Numenor for a time, but he originally lived in Valinor
about the balrog part, I would like to add that they all died too. It isn't known if any balrog was slain without the slayer dying too.
the balrogs weren't made by Morgoth, he corrupted them.

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| June 10, 2013, 10:25 am
Quoting William .
Im pretty much a LOTR nerd but im proud of it. Well here it goes...

Arwen was considered the most beautiful mortal since luthien from the silmarrilion who married beren

In the books it was glorfindel nor arwen who took frodo to rivendell after weathertop.

Tom Bomnbadil was a very powerful spirit. He had the power to overthrow sauron but found no reason to so he didnt.

Gothmog from the ROTK was named after the first Balrog of Morgoth.

Orcs are really just elves that were changed by saurons evil magic.

Ecthelion of the fountain, Gandalf and glorfindel were the only three ever to slay a balrog singlehandedly

The first dragon of middle earth had no wings.
Many of the famous weapons found in minas tirith were heirlooms of the lost city of Gondolin.

The greatest archer in LOTR history was beleg strongbow who was accidentally killed by his own friend turin turinbar.

Morgoth was the creator of the balrogs

Sauron originally lived in NUmenor

THe mother of shelob whose name is Ungoliant was feared by morgotha and was the spider that not only poisened, but suck the life out of the trees of light.

Legolas and Gimli traveled together after the lote through fangorn and the glittering caves in helms deep until finally leaving on a ship to the west after the leave of frodo.

Aragorn ruled for over one hundred years.

The horse Shadowfax that was rode by gandalf was a gift from theoden of rohan

shadowfax was one of the mayir.(or however u spell it)

Cirith ungol and minas morgul were both gondorian outposta to keep an eye on sauron but were captured afetr the guard was lowered since there was no sign of activity from sauron.

Minas tirith has 7 levels

Morgoth was never truly killed. He was chained in powerful magic inbued chains and taken to the west

The witch king was the first enemy ever to walk through the gates of minas tirith

Morgoth was beheaded chained and cast into the void.

Tom Bombadil didn't have the power to overhtow sauron, if I remember correctly Elrond himself says so.

Sauron originally lived in Valinor. He then became a servant of Morgoth. a lot later he went to Numenor for a while.

Morgoth corrupted maiar and they became balrogs, he didn't create balrogs.

Shadowfax was a Mearas not a maiar.

I don't mean to insult you or anything, im just correcting your facts.
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| June 10, 2013, 10:57 am
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Quoting Chris .
Shall this be active again?

Minas Tirith has 7 levels!


I did not know that.
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| June 10, 2013, 5:37 pm
Quoting Chris .
Shall this be active again?

Minas Tirith has 7 levels!

Except William already said that. :p
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| June 10, 2013, 5:50 pm
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Has anyone ever noticed that Gollum's pupils change from smaller to larger when he becomes angry and his "evil" side take’s over him?
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| June 15, 2013, 4:10 pm
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Quoting Justin M
Has anyone ever noticed that Gollum's pupils change from smaller to larger when he becomes angry and his "evil" side take’s over him?

Interesting. I always noticed that his eyes changed when Smeagol turns to Gollum, although I was never really shure what exactly it is that makes it appear that way.
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| June 16, 2013, 5:13 am
Quoting Michael Kringe
Interesting. I always noticed that his eyes changed when Smeagol turns to Gollum, although I was never really shure what exactly it is that makes it appear that way.

That's strange but now that you mention it, that does make sense.
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| June 16, 2013, 10:57 am
The pony that is Bill the pony is related to the horse Aragorn rides apparently.
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| June 16, 2013, 1:33 pm
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Quoting ~* Ethan *~
The pony that is Bill the pony is related to the horse Aragorn rides apparently.

By the horse that Aragorn rides, do you mean Brego in the movie?
Quite interesting...
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| June 17, 2013, 10:22 am
I don't get it, how could brego be related to Bill the pony?
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| June 17, 2013, 8:58 pm
Quoting Tureaglin Naugellon
I don't get it, how could brego be related to Bill the pony?

He could mean the horse that 'plays' Bill and the horse that 'plays' Brego.
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| June 17, 2013, 9:43 pm
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Quoting Evan 'Beardless Dwarf' Botkin
He could mean the horse that 'plays' Bill and the horse that 'plays' Brego.

That was my second thought too and the only one that makes sense, because I think Brego does only exist in the movies.
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| June 18, 2013, 8:50 am
Quoting Michael Kringe
That was my second thought too and the only one that makes sense, because I think Brego does only exist in the movies.

Yeah that would make sense.
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| June 18, 2013, 5:20 pm
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so in the fellowship movie when
Aragorn is fighting Lurts, Lurts throws a knife at Aragorn and Aragorn blocks it with is sword. Well turns out that actually was not supposed to happen the knife slipped out of the actors hand and Viggo blocked it. Go Viggo for awesome improve!
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| June 20, 2013, 11:21 pm
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Quoting Lee Muzzy
so in the fellowship movie when
Aragorn is fighting Lurts, Lurts throws a knife at Aragorn and Aragorn blocks it with is sword. Well turns out that actually was not supposed to happen the knife slipped out of the actors hand and Viggo blocked it. g=Go Viggo for awesome improve!

Interesting. I didn't know that.
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| June 21, 2013, 9:30 am
Isildur didn't defeat Sauron, Gil-Galad and Elendil did. Sauron only cut off Saurons finger with the ring on it.
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| October 23, 2013, 10:39 am
Quoting William .
The horse Shadowfax that was rode by gandalf was a gift from theoden of rohan

Actually in the books Gandalf 'borrowed' Shadowfax much to the king's annoyance, but was given to him after he helped them at Helm's Deep i think it was.
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| October 23, 2013, 10:56 am
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Quoting Max Kester
Actually in the books Gandalf 'borrowed' Shadowfax much to the king's annoyance, but was given to him after he helped them at Helm's Deep i think it was.

Theoden offered him any horse in his stable so technically it was a "gift" even if he did only borrow it
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| October 23, 2013, 10:58 am
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On one of the pirate Umbars on the ships that are shown when Elrond tells Aragorn that he must take the Paths of the Dead, one of the pirates is Peter Jackson. He may be the one Legolas shoots in the extended also...
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| October 24, 2013, 3:57 pm
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Quoting ~ Caleb ~
On one of the pirate Umbars on the ships that are shown when Elrond tells Aragorn that he must take the Paths of the Dead, one of the pirates is Peter Jackson. He may be the one Legolas shoots in the extended also...

Yes he is. Peter Jackson is also seen in the Hobbit, when the dwarves leave Erebor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_HqIEQWxTU
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| October 25, 2013, 5:17 am
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