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| January 7, 2010, 8:42 am
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Quoting Joe P.
I just am making an advice group for my next generations of ships. I am going to invite some people to help me. In return I help you, but probaly not Mark if I invite him. NOW MARK! Don't think I am going crazy over this asking you, but you have built some of the top ships around. Just asking, you don't HAVE to join baut it would be appreciated.

Thanks if who I invite CAN help. Oh, wait now that I think of it maybe it can be its own Shipbuilding Advice/help group... if that's okay with you guys. So, thanks again! I'll wait for my "approvel", just to make sure it's not "illegal".


Joe, you're more than welcome to make a ship building group, of course. I might join for a short time, but people have this thread as well to ask me any questions that they like. So, it might be a bit redundant to be over on another site offering the same thing (although, obviously different builders are in different groups).

Meanwhile, go for it with the group, and here's hoping it goes well for ya!

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| January 7, 2010, 8:45 am
Mark-
I have a question for you. This one might be kind of hard for you since you do not experiment with it a lot. Don't feel bad if you don't have any clue...

Might you have some advanced tips on the topic of multiple characters interacting(having conversation) with one another?

I'm looking for something that might be more in depth than altering characters faces to represent emotions, tilting their heads up and own to simulate looking at each other/their surroundings, or taking different shots at different angles.

If you need me to clarify more, do say so.
Thanks, -Dylan

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| January 7, 2010, 12:22 pm
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Quoting James Hawke
Hey Kelso,
I saw you talking about a "3 tier system" and I was just wondering, if you do make this, if you could give the owner position to someone if you are leaving the group


Good thought. Something to keep in mind if Sean wants to pursue it.

Quoting James Hawke ...and maybe the limit of the "owner positions" could be 2 at the max.


The initial concept with this notion of Dave's (and full credit goes to Shaddix for coming up with the idea...I just sat and listened), was for a single owner. More than one would get us right back to the problem we have now with more than one Admin.

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| January 7, 2010, 12:26 pm
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Quoting Dylan B
Mark-
I have a question for you. This one might be kind of hard for you since you do not experiment with it a lot. Don't feel bad if you don't have any clue...

Might you have some advanced tips on the topic of multiple characters interacting(having conversation) with one another?

I'm looking for something that might be more in depth than altering characters faces to represent emotions, tilting their heads up and own to simulate looking at each other/their surroundings, or taking different shots at different angles.

If you need me to clarify more, do say so.
Thanks, -Dylan


Well, I don't know how much I can offer here, but this is my thought:

When conversation is going on, you can certainly illustrate it with faces, but you can also illustrate it from above, below (angled up), or a very wide shot. If you've ever seen Calvin and Hobbes, I think that's a good example. Calvin is often providing conversation, but the visual is often him/them at a distance, or amidst a surrounding scene.

One other thing, which I see in comics a lot, is to illustrate the event being spoken of, rather than the one who's doing the speaking. So if a character's talking about a past event, you might see a couple frames of him talking, and then the visuals cut to the event he's talking about (in the form of a flash back, for example).

Those are some options that initially come to mind. How did I do?

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| January 7, 2010, 12:33 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

Well, I don't know how much I can offer here, but this is my thought:

When conversation is going on, you can certainly illustrate it with faces, but you can also illustrate it from above, below (angled up), or a very wide shot. If you've ever seen Calvin and Hobbes, I think that's a good example. Calvin is often providing conversation, but the visual is often him/them at a distance, or amidst a surrounding scene.

One other thing, which I see in comics a lot, is to illustrate the event being spoken of, rather than the one who's doing the speaking. So if a character's talking about a past event, you might see a couple frames of him talking, and then the visuals cut to the event he's talking about (in the form of a flash back, for example).

Those are some options that initially come to mind. How did I do?


That sounds good. I was actually thinking of asking you a similar question... :) but Dylan beat me to it!
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| January 7, 2010, 12:52 pm
My advice (for what it's worth) beside C&H is to consider the work of the masters -- Kirby, Ditko, Romita, and McFarlane among others -- and see how they paired text with visuals. With Lego you are limited, it's true, but with good fig positioning and differing lighting/camera angle you can do quite a bit.



I know, Kelso, what's a hack like me doing messing up your thread? Pffft!
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| January 7, 2010, 1:11 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

Those are some options that initially come to mind. How did I do?


You have good advice, but it's not what I'm looking for. I had thought of those things quite some time ago when I was working on the "Dawn Conquest II" story. This advice is a perfect fit to your Apocaypsis build, but not mine. You have one character reflecting on past events and then returning to the cave. It's hard to talk about my build without giving ideas away, but I'll say that the dialogue is completely different from Apocalyspsissis. There are different characters reacting with each other in a situation that is in the present. Thats all I can say. Thanks for trying, I'll have to keep studying comics of something. -Dylan
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| January 7, 2010, 2:01 pm
So I read the registration rules for Brickworld: Under 18 requires adult supervision for the first two days. My question: If I were to go to brickworld (I'm 16) Would you be my adult for those two days?
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| January 7, 2010, 2:11 pm
Hi Mark. I would just like some advice on my ship building. For ages now I've wanted to build a large-sized ship but whenever I start I either get annoyed with it and give up, don't have enough pieces or don't have the right pieces. I can't even buy the pieces I need becuase my Dad says I am to old for Lego. Another reason I can't buy them is because I don't have much money. I get 2 a week so by the time I have saved up enough for what I wanted, I've given up on the idea and want to do something else! This is my biggest ship so far. http://mocpages.com/moc.php/134842 . I thought it was quite good at the time but now I feel I could have done better. So do you have any advice for people like me who want to build a large ship that takes time but who get annoyed with them easily. Many Thanks.
-R.K.-
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| January 7, 2010, 2:25 pm
Quoting Elite Commander R.K. Blast
my Dad says I am to old for Lego.


Here's my solution for this part of your question: Tell him that you are investing in your future career as an Architect or an Engineer. Or just show him the Afol's of the pages. That might change his tune.

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| January 7, 2010, 2:47 pm
Quoting Brick Freak

Here's my solution for this part of your question: Tell him that you are investing in your future career as an Architect or an Engineer. Or just show him the Afol's of the pages. That might change his tune.

I've allready tried that but he just says I'm using it as an excuse to keep playing with it.
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| January 7, 2010, 3:40 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso
Yep, shouldn't have asked! ;)

Probably wouldn't have hurt if you had stayed silent, but I can't think of any time you were ever quiet! (Of coarse I am 100% joking - Keep talking, Big Guy!)

But for a serious question, why do *YOU* shun MegaBloks? I have been contemplating this subject for a while, and with your permission I'd love to create a conversation thread asking why so many people show such contempt towards MegaBloks. Is it the texture they can't handle, or the bad molding? I'd love to know. (I'm SURE there's a bad joke in there somewhere, some one will just have to dig deep enough to find it...)
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| January 7, 2010, 3:47 pm
Quoting Elite Commander R.K. Blast
I've allready tried that but he just says I'm using it as an excuse to keep playing with it.


Then ignore him.
If he doesn't get a response, he'll go away.

Oh, wait. Thought you were talking about a school kid.

Well, my suggestion would be to say it's a hobby like wood carving or sculpting.

Say it's 'art'. That should do the trick.
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| January 7, 2010, 3:55 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Then ignore him.
If he doesn't get a response, he'll go away.

Oh, wait. Thought you were talking about a school kid.

Well, my suggestion would be to say it's a hobby like wood carving or sculpting.

Say it's 'art'. That should do the trick.

Lol. Again, I have allready tried it he just says that it isn't, it's a kiddies toy. And then I get rather annoyed.
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| January 7, 2010, 4:01 pm
Quoting Elite Commander R.K. Blast
Lol. Again, I have allready tried it he just says that it isn't, it's a kiddies toy. And then I get rather annoyed.

Show him Sean Kenny the owner and craetor of this site, some of his things and tell him that he is a Lego Professional.
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| January 7, 2010, 4:04 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

Joe, you're more than welcome to make a ship building group, of course. I might join for a short time, but people have this thread as well to ask me any questions that they like. So, it might be a bit redundant to be over on another site offering the same thing (although, obviously different builders are in different groups).

Meanwhile, go for it with the group, and here's hoping it goes well for ya!

Thanks! Maybe you could stop by often and add a few creations we can get help from?
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| January 7, 2010, 4:45 pm
In your website, it was mentioned that your "... subjects range from common animals to such oddities as Kinkajous and Binturongs." Do you actually go on site/travel to paint them or do you work off pictures or some other means?
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| January 7, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Caleb Cutlass-Crocodile Blanchet
But for a serious question, why do *YOU* shun MegaBloks?


I thought I'd put in my two cents on this one as well. When I first started coming out of my Dark Age, I actually bought a good amount of MegaBloks. Now, being as I didn't know one from the other as far as quality goes, I feel I can state an honest opinion here. I didn't have any preconcieved notions going in when I got them.

The quality of "MB" is just so sub par to that of Lego that there really isn't any comparison. The bricks don't fit together as well and the detail on things like the minifigs is... to say the least... poor.

When I first started, I had no issues with MB but soon, though personal experience, found out the awful truth.

Again, just my two cents.
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| January 7, 2010, 5:16 pm
nteresting points, Chris. I agree that the quality is not even close to the perfection LEGO aims for. I, for one, hate building a creation and then finally getting ready to photograph it and finally noticing I used one MB somewhere on the creation. The texture and color make them shine out at me. Making a creation of only MBs isn't a problemo for me, but I don't like mixing the elements of both companies...

I don't give a dang about any 'minifig' that ain't LEGO. LEGO's mini-men have been the main reason I ever latched on to the LEGO toys, or ever purchased any Lego. They remain to be my favorite LEGO element - and most likely, always will.
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| January 7, 2010, 8:53 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

I thought I'd put in my two cents on this one as well. When I first started coming out of my Dark Age, I actually bought a good amount of MegaBloks. Now, being as I didn't know one from the other as far as quality goes, I feel I can state an honest opinion here. I didn't have any preconcieved notions going in when I got them.

The quality of "MB" is just so sub par to that of Lego that there really isn't any comparison. The bricks don't fit together as well and the detail on things like the minifigs is... to say the least... poor.

When I first started, I had no issues with MB but soon, though personal experience, found out the awful truth.

Again, just my two cents.


Yeah, I did something similar a year ago. MB, Cobi/best lock and Sluban too. I think my idea was to get more bricks quickly and cheaply. Well the cheap part was certainly accurate. I know exactly what Caleb means too, one clone brick in with your Lego looks nasty. I've spent some time removing the pretenders from my collection now. The colours look wrong, the fit is poor and those figs are awful. I HAVE kept a handful of items around - Sluban body armour and berets, a couple of interesting best-lock helmets and a few MB 'stone-wall' 2x4 bricks. I'm actually finding that the more Lego I purchase, the more I feel that purist is the way to go.

Oh, and i'm not being wasteful, all my clone bricks have been passed onto young relatives who just want bits to build with.
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| January 8, 2010, 8:01 am
Quoting Matthew Novosad
Show him Sean Kenny the owner and craetor of this site, some of his things and tell him that he is a Lego Professional.

Good Idea! I'll try that!
-Update: O.K. I showed him and he called him Sad.
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| January 8, 2010, 8:08 am
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Quoting Dennis Price
I know, Kelso, what's a hack like me doing messing up your thread? Pffft!


You just answered your own question...you HACK!


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| January 8, 2010, 8:19 am
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Quoting James Hawke
I know this, Mark, but sometimes I create a group with someone else, so that we can both have the same power if you co-founded it.


Yep, I hear ya. But you trusted this friend and it got ya a one way ticket to Heartbreak Hotel. If you're willing to take the risk of two people with the same power, then there's no point in adding an additional position to the group's arrangement of control.

Quoting James Hawke ...see if Chris created this group and he were the only owner, wouldn't this misunderstand your power, Just a thought


Misunderstand my power? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I certainly wouldn't feel that it was undermining me, if that's what you mean. It would be HIS group, and as the owner and creator, I would respect his authority out of courtesy.


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| January 8, 2010, 8:30 am
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Quoting Dylan B

You have good advice, but it's not what I'm looking for. I had thought of those things quite some time ago when I was working on the "Dawn Conquest II" story. This advice is a perfect fit to your Apocaypsis build, but not mine. You have one character reflecting on past events and then returning to the cave. It's hard to talk about my build without giving ideas away, but I'll say that the dialogue is completely different from Apocalyspsissis. There are different characters reacting with each other in a situation that is in the present. Thats all I can say. Thanks for trying, I'll have to keep studying comics of something. -Dylan


Yeah, you don't want to give too much away, obviously. All I can say without knowing more of your own perspective is to look for other visual examples similar to the ones you're trying to create for your own work, and emulate them, adjusting to your own needs as you see fit.

That's really the history of creativity right there. If you look at art history, every great creation wasn't alone in it's inception, but inspired and influenced by something else (that's part of the criteria we use in Art History classes to identify something as being an historically significant work). So hopefully you can find other visual works that will help to guide you in the direction that you need.

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| January 8, 2010, 8:34 am
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Quoting James Hawke
Hey Mark,
When is Apocalypsis, coming out?


Not until mid summer 2010 at the EARLIEST. My work schedule has increased immeasurably, and with all of the time I spend now on MOCpages, building time has been reduced by probably 90%. I've got to finish work for Brickworld first. Then after that, I hope to get on the next Apocalypsis installment. It's written...just waiting for production!;)

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| January 8, 2010, 8:37 am
Quoting Dylan B

You have good advice, but it's not what I'm looking for. I had thought of those things quite some time ago when I was working on the "Dawn Conquest II" story. This advice is a perfect fit to your Apocaypsis build, but not mine. You have one character reflecting on past events and then returning to the cave. It's hard to talk about my build without giving ideas away, but I'll say that the dialogue is completely different from Apocalyspsissis. There are different characters reacting with each other in a situation that is in the present. Thats all I can say. Thanks for trying, I'll have to keep studying comics of something. -Dylan

If I can just suggest something here:
Imagine your story as either a film or TV show and think of how it would look on there, then take your pictures from that angle.
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| January 8, 2010, 8:38 am
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Quoting Brick Freak
So I read the registration rules for Brickworld: Under 18 requires adult supervision for the first two days. My question: If I were to go to brickworld (I'm 16) Would you be my adult for those two days?


I'd love to say yes because we want as many MOCpages members there as the building can hold, but unfortunately I'll have to say no. For starters, your parents (though by sixteen I'm sure you're perfectly compitent) would need to give me permission, then there may even be legal issues involved should (one in a million chance, but still a chance) anything happen to you. But, primarily I have to decline because I'll be doing an immense amount of running about, including volunteer work, and I just don't have any idea where I'll be at any given time. Sorry, hope you understand.


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| January 8, 2010, 8:43 am
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Quoting Elite Commander R.K. Blast
Hi Mark. I would just like some advice on my ship building. For ages now I've wanted to build a large-sized ship but whenever I start I either get annoyed with it and give up, don't have enough pieces or don't have the right pieces. I can't even buy the pieces I need becuase my Dad says I am to old for Lego. Another reason I can't buy them is because I don't have much money. I get 2 a week so by the time I have saved up enough for what I wanted, I've given up on the idea and want to do something else! This is my biggest ship so far. http://mocpages.com/moc.php/134842 . I thought it was quite good at the time but now I feel I could have done better. So do you have any advice for people like me who want to build a large ship that takes time but who get annoyed with them easily. Many Thanks.
-R.K.-


Unfortunately, there's just no getting around the issue of volume of parts. If you don't have enough bricks to do the job, there's really nothing that can be done. This is a constant issue for me, because I'd ideally love to work in the 15 - 20ft long range for builds...but it's just not financially feasible for me.

As for the issue of getting frustrated, I think you need to constantly remind yourself that what you've chosen to work on is going to take time. I focus on each little section, one at a time, looking at it as though that stage of construction were a complete MOC in and of itself. By doing things to completion in stages, I feel like I'm constantly making progress, which eliminates some of that sense of burnout.

The other thing you can do is utilize your peers here on MOCpages. Might sound strange, but when I post a WIP, suddenly my peers are expecting me to finish, and that pressure gives me the boost I need to see a large project through to its completion. I usually say something like "well, I've started it, and everyone's seen it...guess I have to finish this." And I find it's usually worth the struggle when complete.

Anyway, don't be disappointed if you can't do a monstrosity. Large MOCs can be fun, and they get a lot of attention, but they're not the end all, be all of the Lego hobby. Small works can be pretty amazing sometimes, too. And as for your dad...well, he's welcome to take a look at all of the AFOLs here on MOCpages (though he'll probably just assume we don't have anything better to do, rather than this being what we CHOSE to spend our time doing).

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| January 8, 2010, 8:53 am
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Quoting Caleb Cutlass-Crocodile Blanchet
Probably wouldn't have hurt if you had stayed silent, but I can't think of any time you were ever quiet! (Of coarse I am 100% joking - Keep talking, Big Guy!)

But for a serious question, why do *YOU* shun MegaBloks? I have been contemplating this subject for a while, and with your permission I'd love to create a conversation thread asking why so many people show such contempt towards MegaBloks. Is it the texture they can't handle, or the bad molding? I'd love to know. (I'm SURE there's a bad joke in there somewhere, some one will just have to dig deep enough to find it...)


I personally despise Megablocks because they are a knock off of Lego, and take away from true Lego sales. Whether we think about it or not, the Lego Group is in business to make money. We the buyers keep them going. Megablocks comes along and says "hey that's a good idea, we'll do that, too." So they rip off the building system created by Lego (ever looked at how similar they are - the pieces even fit together), and then take away from Lego's business, putting us at risk of loosing the product that we've come to love. That's my beef with Megablocks or any other copycat building product out there. And that's my reason for capitalizing the word Lego, and respecting their trademark, too.

Oh, and by all means go for it with the thread, and you don't need my permission. As a favor, though, I wouldn't mind if you posted my response in that thread as well. I think it would be good for builders to understand that Lego is a specific product, it will always need the buyer's support, and that Megablocks is a knock-off and a drain on Lego's potential profits.


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| January 8, 2010, 8:59 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

I personally despise Megablocks because they are a knock off of Lego, and take away from true Lego sales. Whether we think about it or not, the Lego Group is in business to make money. We the buyers keep them going. Megablocks comes along and says "hey that's a good idea, we'll do that, too." So they rip off the building system created by Lego (ever looked at how similar they are - the pieces even fit together), and then take away from Lego's business, putting us at risk of loosing the product that we've come to love. That's my beef with Megablocks or any other copycat building product out there. And that's my reason for capitalizing the word Lego, and respecting their trademark, too.

*crowd cheers*
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| January 8, 2010, 9:01 am
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Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
In your website, it was mentioned that your "... subjects range from common animals to such oddities as Kinkajous and Binturongs." Do you actually go on site/travel to paint them or do you work off pictures or some other means?


All of the above. I travel a good bit to find subjects in the wild...Africa, the East, South and Central America, and throughout the U.S. But I'll also use pics from my back yard or local zoo, or even images provided by others (with their permission).

It's kind of like Lego in some respects...wherever you get inspiration, it's good!

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| January 8, 2010, 9:06 am
even though i said i was done with halo, i am finishing my pelican v4. v3 looked soooo bad. was this good choice? and a question for kelso: how many bricks did you put in your invisible hand? I just looked at the pics, I didnt read the description.
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| January 8, 2010, 11:34 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Unfortunately, there's just no getting around the issue of volume of parts. If you don't have enough bricks to do the job, there's really nothing that can be done. This is a constant issue for me, because I'd ideally love to work in the 15 - 20ft long range for builds...but it's just not financially feasible for me.

As for the issue of getting frustrated, I think you need to constantly remind yourself that what you've chosen to work on is going to take time. I focus on each little section, one at a time, looking at it as though that stage of construction were a complete MOC in and of itself. By doing things to completion in stages, I feel like I'm constantly making progress, which eliminates some of that sense of burnout.

The other thing you can do is utilize your peers here on MOCpages. Might sound strange, but when I post a WIP, suddenly my peers are expecting me to finish, and that pressure gives me the boost I need to see a large project through to its completion. I usually say something like "well, I've started it, and everyone's seen it...guess I have to finish this." And I find it's usually worth the struggle when complete.

Anyway, don't be disappointed if you can't do a monstrosity. Large MOCs can be fun, and they get a lot of attention, but they're not the end all, be all of the Lego hobby. Small works can be pretty amazing sometimes, too. And as for your dad...well, he's welcome to take a look at all of the AFOLs here on MOCpages (though he'll probably just assume we don't have anything better to do, rather than this being what we CHOSE to spend our time doing).

O.K. Thanks for the tips, but also;
When I'm starting a large project (especialy ships) I never know where to start. Any tips on working out the best starting place? Thanks again.
-R.K.-
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| January 8, 2010, 11:46 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
Fire away...

I'm currently trtying to build a ship (not a S.H.I.P), here's what I have so far: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179174@N04/4251237344/ (the description says what I want to build) but so far I'm stuck there=( Could you give me some advice on how to continue?
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| January 8, 2010, 11:49 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
I personally despise Megablocks because they are a knock off of Lego, and take away from true Lego sales. Whether we think about it or not, the Lego Group is in business to make money. We the buyers keep them going. Megablocks comes along and says "hey that's a good idea, we'll do that, too." So they rip off the building system created by Lego (ever looked at how similar they are - the pieces even fit together), and then take away from Lego's business, putting us at risk of loosing the product that we've come to love. That's my beef with Megablocks or any other copycat building product out there. And that's my reason for capitalizing the word Lego, and respecting their trademark, too.

Oh, and by all means go for it with the thread, and you don't need my permission. As a favor, though, I wouldn't mind if you posted my response in that thread as well. I think it would be good for builders to understand that Lego is a specific product, it will always need the buyer's support, and that Megablocks is a knock-off and a drain on Lego's potential profits.

Very nice, that's one of my reasons as well. But it doesnt seem to be going very well, at nearly every store I go to the Lego section is nearly emptied and the Megabloks are still fully in stock. Most kids like Lego better, anyway...

Oh - and I started that thread, thanks!
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| January 8, 2010, 11:57 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
Fire away...


Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230
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| January 8, 2010, 4:07 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

I'd love to say yes because we want as many MOCpages members there as the building can hold, but unfortunately I'll have to say no. For starters, your parents (though by sixteen I'm sure you're perfectly compitent) would need to give me permission, then there may even be legal issues involved should (one in a million chance, but still a chance) anything happen to you. But, primarily I have to decline because I'll be doing an immense amount of running about, including volunteer work, and I just don't have any idea where I'll be at any given time. Sorry, hope you understand.



Well at least I got a response *sniffle sniffle* Oh Phipson! I gotta question for ya...

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| January 8, 2010, 4:10 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230

True, they are links to other websites, they are ads of a sort.
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| January 8, 2010, 4:10 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Inappropriate buddy icon... i would recommend deleting this person...

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/40100

dear me, what is MOCpages becoming?
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| January 8, 2010, 4:11 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
True, they are links to other websites, they are ads of a sort.


Rite.
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| January 8, 2010, 4:11 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Rite.

you mean "right"...
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| January 8, 2010, 4:12 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Inappropriate buddy icon... i would recommend deleting this person...

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/40100

Yeah, looks like nudity
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| January 8, 2010, 4:12 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230

they are making commercial for they websites! i have seen two more of those stupid people, one with something like hairspray and one with a site with phillipinian girls!
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| January 8, 2010, 4:21 pm
Quoting Thomas N
you mean "right"...


I know that. I did that on purpose.
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| January 8, 2010, 5:55 pm
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Inappropriate buddy icon... i would recommend deleting this person...

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/40100


I would recommend IP banning them, myself.
It's fairly safe to assume that spambot never read the rules.

Is there a way to block HTML links from being posted? You should ban that site that it's linking to.



There's times when I'm glad my ISP has a built-in website blocker, you can believe me this is one of them.
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| January 8, 2010, 6:12 pm
There seem to be a lot more of these pseudo-sites than when I first joined. They ARE advertisers and they are trying to pull one over on Sean by pretending to be Lego fans, but they slipped up by not posting any creations, not having any favorite builders or creations, and by not belonging to any groups. Be careful of those links, though. Click the wrong one and nasties will attack your computer. But you know that, right?
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| January 8, 2010, 6:19 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
Yeah, looks like nudity


Favorited!!!

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| January 8, 2010, 6:23 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

Favorited!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh crud, shouldn't have laughed at that I guess, not being mature and all that.
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| January 8, 2010, 6:25 pm
he Kelso can u give me a tip on how to make lego minifigures do karate kicks like jackie chan does
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| January 8, 2010, 6:27 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh crud, shouldn't have laughed at that I guess, not being mature and all that.


That's right my friend....in case you haven't noticed lately LEGOZ is SERIOUS business!!!!111!!1
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| January 8, 2010, 6:28 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

That's right my friend....in case you haven't noticed lately LEGOZ is SERIOUS business!!!!111!!1

I have noticed. I took all my daughters Lego away because they are just too serious now. (Now I have the mindstorm! MWA-HA-HA-!)
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| January 8, 2010, 6:33 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
I have noticed. I took all my daughters Lego away because they are just too serious now. (Now I have the mindstorm! MWA-HA-HA-!)


Ohhhhh nice technique! I'm going to use it on my kids and get me one too! BTW, I absolutely, positively REFUSE to give you credit or link to your post for that idea. :P
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| January 8, 2010, 6:37 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

Ohhhhh nice technique! I'm going to use it on my kids and get me one too! BTW, I absolutely, positively REFUSE to give you credit or link to your post for that idea. :P

HA! Since my daughter has an account here, probably a good idea actually!
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| January 8, 2010, 6:44 pm
Quoting James Hawke
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163035 In there, there is a pic of a guy doing one, I think pic 18?

not wat i mean tho i mean with both minifig legs with one in the air and the other on the ground i need help with it man
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| January 8, 2010, 7:34 pm
Quoting James Hawke
Yeah theres a pic of it, can't you see it?

i saw the pic but the leg hes standing on is a rund 1x1 brick and a plate brick 1x1 cant u see
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| January 8, 2010, 7:37 pm
Quoting James Hawke
Yes but this should be fine. It works perfectly...

I know it works fine im just saying i want the whole minifig not a leg and a bar plus a plate for the kick do u understand me
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| January 8, 2010, 7:42 pm
Quoting James Hawke
That's exactly what it is doing. If you have special minifig legs than paste decals on the "artificial leg"

BTW Try to improve your grammar, not to be rude.

Um.....I only use text terms when I feel like. And its not doing the thing i want it to do so i asked mark kelso BTW not you,not to be insulting or rude.
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| January 8, 2010, 7:46 pm
Now, now, guys. Let's be nice. I can hear you all the way over here in Oakland.
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| January 8, 2010, 8:52 pm
Quoting James Hawke
The link also leads to porn. I would recommend deleting him or the buddy icon or link.

i think he is a she, because the name is samantha!
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| January 9, 2010, 6:08 am
Quoting Trevor W.
Um.....I only use text terms when I feel like. And its not doing the thing i want it to do so i asked mark kelso BTW not you,not to be insulting or rude.


I am going to be rude. If you are aware of the basic rules of spelling and usage, then please USE THEM. This is not a chatroom or a cell phone, so there's no reason not to observe the basics of language in a MOC pages post. Yes, we all make errors, particularly some of our younger MOCpages users (which is entirely understood), but intentionally using "textspeak" when there's no reason for it is ridiculous and annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously if he doesn't care enough to communicate clearly.
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| January 9, 2010, 10:50 am
Quoting Dennis Price

I am going to be rude. If you are aware of the basic rules of spelling and usage, then please USE THEM. This is not a chatroom or a cell phone, so there's no reason not to observe the basics of language in a MOC pages post. Yes, we all make errors, particularly some of our younger MOCpages users (which is entirely understood), but intentionally using "textspeak" when there's no reason for it is ridiculous and annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously if they don't care enough to communicate clearly.

um.....noticed what the rules of mocpages are right not to be rude in any way.I hoped i clarified that for you
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| January 9, 2010, 10:52 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Brick Freak

Well at least I got a response *sniffle sniffle* Oh Phipson! I gotta question for ya...


LOL.

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| January 9, 2010, 11:02 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

LOL.

Hey do you know how to make a karate kick like jackie chan with using bricks?
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| January 9, 2010, 11:10 am
 Group admin 
Quoting ODST serial 142-761 (46th ODST platoon)
even though i said i was done with halo, i am finishing my pelican v4. v3 looked soooo bad. was this good choice? and a question for kelso: how many bricks did you put in your invisible hand? I just looked at the pics, I didnt read the description.


Honestly, I have NO idea how many parts went into it. I couldn't even begin to guess. It would've been fun to know, but the build was difficult enough without keeping track of the number of parts used. Oh well, maybe one of these days, I'll do a parts count with one of my creations just to see.

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| January 10, 2010, 7:46 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Blast of the 609th
O.K. Thanks for the tips, but also;
When I'm starting a large project (especialy ships) I never know where to start. Any tips on working out the best starting place? Thanks again.
-R.K.-


It can vary considerably with the identity of each creation. Most of the time, I like to simply start at the front and work my way back. But that's not always best. I think my best recommendation is to look at what you're creating, and try to determine ahead of time if there is a particular section that NEEDS to be done first (because it supports everything else, for example), or is very difficult to build. (What if you find you can't build that section to your satisfaction...you want to know right from the start, so you're not wasting your time with the rest of the MOC)


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| January 10, 2010, 7:50 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

It can vary considerably with the identity of each creation. Most of the time, I like to simply start at the front and work my way back. But that's not always best. I think my best recommendation is to look at what you're creating, and try to determine ahead of time if there is a particular section that NEEDS to be done first (because it supports everything else, for example), or is very difficult to build. (What if you find you can't build that section to your satisfaction...you want to know right from the start, so you're not wasting your time with the rest of the MOC)


O.K. Thanks again.
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| January 10, 2010, 8:49 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Trevor W.
he Kelso can u give me a tip on how to make lego minifigures do karate kicks like jackie chan does


Depends on what kind of kicks you're talking about...All martial artists are capable of numerous kinds.

If you mean like the side kick example you gave me (but without the 1 x 1 round), I can't immediately think of a way to use the left leg as a support. He could, however do a front or back kick without any changes of parts or cheating.
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| January 10, 2010, 10:10 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Depends on what kind of kicks you're talking about...All martial artists are capable of numerous kinds.

If you mean like the side kick example you gave me (but without the 1 x 1 round), I can't immediately think of a way to use the left leg as a support. He could, however do a front or back kick without any changes of parts or cheating.

well I know th clear peices can be used for jumps but how do I make him like hes upside down
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| January 10, 2010, 10:16 am
phazezors is a member in this group! he is known as the mocpage terrorist! mark and chris, ban him before he destroys this group!
here is a text i copied from an another group:


So here are all Phazes suspected accounts-

Matchstick !
Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
Lieutenant Commander Shed
Skeleton Man
Tic Tac Toe
Darth Bizzel
alphaZero X
Gerrard
Nota Clonetard
Phazezors .
Phazeosaurus

Here are all the suspected or known phaze accounts. Copy this list and warn all the groups he is in.

If you want to keep this group, watch out for these accounts. He will destroy your group
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| January 10, 2010, 2:45 pm
Edited Addition: This is in response to the Jackie Chan question.

Have him pushing off something like a railing piece or a pole piece, as a gymnast would.
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| January 10, 2010, 4:17 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230


Thanks for the heads up. In the future, everyone, if you come across one of these, please let Mark, Sean or I know about it. These types of accounts are IP banned as soon as we get the info. Keep an eye out for them please, we can't do it without you.

As for these, I forwarded them to Sean and they'll be taken care of (as well as that one a few posts down the thread).

~Chris

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| January 10, 2010, 5:30 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting E.K.O BUILDER
phazezors is a member in this group! he is known as the mocpage terrorist! mark and chris, ban him before he destroys this group!
here is a text i copied from an another group:


If you want to keep this group, watch out for these accounts. He will destroy your group


So, unless I make him an Admin of this group... how exactly is he going to "destroy" it?

Phaze doesn't cause any problems around here. His name was first brought to my attention due to the whole "he's destroying my group!" thing a while back. He was able to "destroy" (We'll use that word for lack of a better one for now) those groups because the admins of those groups... guess what... made him an admin. If you're worried about your group, don't make anyone else an admin. Simple solution.



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| January 10, 2010, 5:44 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230


Thanks for the heads up. In the future, everyone, if you come across one of these, please let Mark, Sean or I know about it. These types of accounts are IP banned as soon as we get the info. Keep an eye out for them please, we can't do it without you.

As for these, I forwarded them to Sean and they'll be taken care of (as well as that one a few posts down the thread).

~Chris


Your welcome. Glad to help. ;)
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| January 10, 2010, 5:53 pm
Here we go again.


Look, EKO, or whatever you call yourself, I'm on reasonable terms with Phazezorz. I'm pretty sure that if he was up to something, he'd have mentioned it over gmail, at least in passing.


As it is, he IS actually planning something right now, but I'm pretty sure it's more creative than the mere deletion of groups.


He's not a one-trick pony, you know.
I'm fairly sure he's done with wrecking groups and has moved on to greener pastures.

Well, greener for him. If you knew about the sort of manipulative, double-thinky things he can come up with, you'd throw a fit about how much of what he says is real and how much is crimson Clupea Harengus.
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| January 10, 2010, 6:02 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Dennis Price

I am going to be rude. If you are aware of the basic rules of spelling and usage, then please USE THEM. This is not a chatroom or a cell phone, so there's no reason not to observe the basics of language in a MOC pages post. Yes, we all make errors, particularly some of our younger MOCpages users (which is entirely understood), but intentionally using "textspeak" when there's no reason for it is ridiculous and annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously if he doesn't care enough to communicate clearly.


Wat RU talkng bout? I R usin tis al teh tim wit n prblm. i thnk lrng 2 rite corecktly is 2 borng. bt i cn spel ELEVEN!!11!!ELEVEN!!

You may find yourself asking, "Was Chris making fun of me?" Only if you think writing incorrectly is "kewl" and you think you don't need to learn to speak correctly.
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| January 10, 2010, 6:32 pm
Quoting E.K.O BUILDER
phazezors is a member in this group! he is known as the mocpage terrorist! mark and chris, ban him before he destroys this group!
here is a text i copied from an another group:


So here are all Phazes suspected accounts-

Matchstick !
Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
Lieutenant Commander Shed
Skeleton Man
Tic Tac Toe
Darth Bizzel
alphaZero X
Gerrard
Nota Clonetard
Phazezors .
Phazeosaurus

Here are all the suspected or known phaze accounts. Copy this list and warn all the groups he is in.

If you want to keep this group, watch out for these accounts. He will destroy your group

Gosh, he has better things to do than to delete groups "EKO"....
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| January 10, 2010, 6:42 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Chris Phipson
Quoting Commander Flare ...

Also these don't look like an actual builder's page either!

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43000
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43220
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/43230


Thanks for the heads up. In the future, everyone, if you come across one of these, please let Mark, Sean or I know about it. These types of accounts are IP banned as soon as we get the info. Keep an eye out for them please, we can't do it without you.

As for these, I forwarded them to Sean and they'll be taken care of (as well as that one a few posts down the thread).

~Chris


Whoops...I sent Sean the same yesterday. Oh well, he's less likely to miss BOTH our emails, I suppose. ;)

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| January 10, 2010, 8:16 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Commader TW
well I know th clear peices can be used for jumps but how do I make him like hes upside down


I'd be tempted to try an optical illusion of sorts. Use an element (like a small bar or something) extending out laterally from a wall or support. Fit the end of the bar (or whatever you find to work) into the back of one of the legs, and hang the fig from it, taking your pics in a way that hides the bar supporting the fig.

Just my .02 on it.

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| January 10, 2010, 8:19 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

I'd be tempted to try an optical illusion of sorts. Use an element (like a small bar or something) extending out laterally from a wall or support. Fit the end of the bar (or whatever you find to work) into the back of one of the legs, and hang the fig from it, taking your pics in a way that hides the bar supporting the fig.

Just my .02 on it.

Thanks I will be sure to give you credit on it and do you happen to know where I could get a starwars sets
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| January 10, 2010, 8:44 pm
Quoting E.K.O BUILDER
phazezors is a member in this group! he is known as the mocpage terrorist! mark and chris, ban him before he destroys this group!
here is a text i copied from an another group:


So here are all Phazes suspected accounts-

Matchstick !
Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
Lieutenant Commander Shed
Skeleton Man
Tic Tac Toe
Darth Bizzel
alphaZero X
Gerrard
Nota Clonetard
Phazezors .
Phazeosaurus

Here are all the suspected or known phaze accounts. Copy this list and warn all the groups he is in.

If you want to keep this group, watch out for these accounts. He will destroy your group

He just puts constructive comments, but most people don't know the difference between that and mean.
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| January 10, 2010, 9:47 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
To stay even bearably on topic, Mr. Kelso, would you say painting plays an influence in your Lego Building?


No, I use Sharpies.

Okay, okay...yes, I know what you meant...aaaaand to answer seriously: I'd say yes, in so much as the things I've learned as an artist (which is primarily painting, although I also sculpt, dance, and am in theater) also play into my work with Lego. To me it's just another medium, although perhaps more lighthearted than the others.

Whether I'm using my voice when singing, moving across the stage in dance, laying down brush work in a painting, or building something in Lego, I'm thinking about similar things - composition, contrasts, textures (yes, texture is in dance, too), and other technical aspects that will help to best express what's on my mind. Obviously all of these artistic endeavors aren't identical, but they all involve similar methods of thinking to achieve my various goals.

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| January 11, 2010, 8:08 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Tr3v0r W.
Thanks I will be sure to give you credit on it and do you happen to know where I could get a starwars sets


Where you could get a Star Wars set? *shakes his head in disbelief*...A Star Wars set? Really? I mean, REALLY? Okay...how about, ummm....ANYWHERE!!!!

Seriously, ANY place that regularly carries Lego is going to carry some of the Star Wars stuff. Now this might be a tough time to find sets, just coming off of the holiday season, and new sets still getting into the stores, but still. If you're really not sure, Target, Walmart, and Toys R Us all are major retailers for Lego. Now if you're looking for a specific set, that's another matter. Was there one set in particular that you wanted?


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| January 11, 2010, 8:20 am
I'm starting to think that we need a Ask Kelso 7.0. Because this has more than Ask Kelso 5.0.
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| January 11, 2010, 8:52 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Where you could get a Star Wars set? *shakes his head in disbelief*...A Star Wars set? Really? I mean, REALLY? Okay...how about, ummm....ANYWHERE!!!!

Seriously, ANY place that regularly carries Lego is going to carry some of the Star Wars stuff. Now this might be a tough time to find sets, just coming off of the holiday season, and new sets still getting into the stores, but still. If you're really not sure, Target, Walmart, and Toys R Us all are major retailers for Lego. Now if you're looking for a specific set, that's another matter. Was there one set in particular that you wanted?


I dunno about Toys R Us, but Wal-Mart has a TON of LEGOs.
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| January 11, 2010, 8:54 am
Quoting Free Bird
I dunno about Toys R Us, but Wal-Mart has a TON of LEGOs.

Not at the Wal-Mart where I live. We have to go all the way to Florence just to go to Target or ToysRus. Belive me. ToysRus has way more than the Wal-Mart I go to. ToysRus carries the new sets and old sets (not the old space theme), They also have the limited and special edition ones there too.
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| January 11, 2010, 8:58 am
Quoting So Cold
Not at the Wal-Mart where I live. We have to go all the way to Florence just to go to Target or ToysRus. Belive me. ToysRus has way more than the Wal-Mart I go to. ToysRus carries the new sets and old sets (not the old space theme), They also have the limited and special edition ones there too.

Then again, my nearest Wal-Mart is a SUPER Wal-Mart, so....
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| January 11, 2010, 8:59 am
Quoting Free Bird
Then again, my nearest Wal-Mart is a SUPER Wal-Mart, so....

That's probably why (I just continued from your "so...."). Because ours isn't. And Wal-Mart's WII games are frakkin expensive. I had to pay $53.00 just for Republic Heroes. So yeah. I have to go to ToysRus most of the time to get them.
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| January 11, 2010, 9:01 am
Hey Mark, didn't you guys say that we shouldn't put those links where it'll do a bunch of pop ups? Well. Here's one that still has it. The link says: "CLICK HERE TO SEE MY FAVORITE BUILDERS." That's the link with all the popups. Now. Here's the user: http://mocpages.com/home.php/40566
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| January 11, 2010, 9:42 am
Quoting So Cold
Hey Mark, didn't you guys say that we shouldn't put those links where it'll do a bunch of pop ups? Well. Here's one that still has it. The link says: "CLICK HERE TO SEE MY FAVORITE BUILDERS." That's the link with all the popups. Now. Here's the user: http://mocpages.com/home.php/40566

That link is SO annoying, I don't know why ppl like him even do that...
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| January 11, 2010, 10:36 am
Quoting Deviss .
That link is SO annoying, I don't know why ppl like him even do that...

I know, right!
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| January 11, 2010, 10:39 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

No, I use Sharpies.

Okay, okay...yes, I know what you meant...aaaaand to answer seriously: I'd say yes, in so much as the things I've learned as an artist (which is primarily painting, although I also sculpt, dance, and am in theater) also play into my work with Lego. To me it's just another medium, although perhaps more lighthearted than the others.

Whether I'm using my voice when singing, moving across the stage in dance, laying down brush work in a painting, or building something in Lego, I'm thinking about similar things - composition, contrasts, textures (yes, texture is in dance, too), and other technical aspects that will help to best express what's on my mind. Obviously all of these artistic endeavors aren't identical, but they all involve similar methods of thinking to achieve my various goals.

You sing too? Any artistic area you don't dabble in?
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| January 11, 2010, 10:41 am
Quoting Mister Bones
You sing too? Any artistic area you don't dabble in?


Finger painting, probably.
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| January 11, 2010, 5:24 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso

Where you could get a Star Wars set? *shakes his head in disbelief*...A Star Wars set? Really? I mean, REALLY? Okay...how about, ummm....ANYWHERE!!!!

Seriously, ANY place that regularly carries Lego is going to carry some of the Star Wars stuff. Now this might be a tough time to find sets, just coming off of the holiday season, and new sets still getting into the stores, but still. If you're really not sure, Target, Walmart, and Toys R Us all are major retailers for Lego. Now if you're looking for a specific set, that's another matter. Was there one set in particular that you wanted?


hmmm.....might just get walmsrt gift card then well thats the closest store to me with legos.cant belive K.B. Toys closed at the mall i go to XD they still have those stores still mom said they had legos in that store
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| January 11, 2010, 5:30 pm
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