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this guy was giving a whole lot of trouble and we booted him

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/146042

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163696

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163905

and especially this one which shows us as murderers(as an admin for the CFOL i am seriously troubled)

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/113425
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| November 18, 2009, 12:03 am
The CFOL is one of MOCpages' formost dramahatcheries.

That's partly why I left.
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| November 18, 2009, 12:16 am
Quoting Dave Shaddix
Lt. John Harland, you need to chill out and ask yourself this question:

What would Jesus do?

I...dont...know...thats a really hard question
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| November 18, 2009, 12:27 am
Quoting Dave Shaddix
he would forgive him and move on. ...forgive him and move on.

i agree but these mocs still attack Rusty myself and the over 400 CFOL members
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| November 18, 2009, 12:33 am
Hard question?
That's the point of it.


Now, from my point of view, it appears that he's overreacting.

He appears to think you're doing something wrong.
What that is, I don't know. Haven't a clue.

I do know, however, that the CFOL is at least trying to act as a hub of sorts for christian members of the site. As far as I can tell, the only occult involvement would be a possible taste on the parts of some members for the Harry Potter books.

Therefore, I assume the parts about the satanists is simple exaggeration.

You know, I thought the CFOL was closed or something like that; I remember searching for it a while back and not finding either it or the dozens of debate topics it riled up.
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| November 18, 2009, 12:33 am
CFOL... Lolz... I remember when there was legit debates there, now it's turned into a madhouse from what I hear.
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| November 18, 2009, 12:43 am
Bit of advice from Bones, for what it is worth. I grew up a Christian, I am no longer one mainly because of the intolerance inherit within the religion, and the fact that science and archeological facts have a tendency to undermine the theory of religion. Having said that, this is site is about building and sharing Lego creations, not religious and political debate. Some of that can be done in the private group threads, and I am all in favor of people posting MOCs of their beliefs, but for the love of all that is skeletal, lighten up. And allow others to have their own beliefs. Ok, back to my lair now, stop waking me up!
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| November 18, 2009, 11:07 am
If your comment was directed at me, Dave, I am clear on that, but maybe my post was not all that clear. I was trying to focus on the behavior as well. I am in complete agreement with what you stated above, I probably just did not state it well, apologies. If you are the first HFOL, I am more than likely the second.


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| November 18, 2009, 2:55 pm
WOW...and here I thought just LEGO was serious business. But toss in religion and it blows up like a nuke. You guys seriously don't have to try so hard to find/create drama.
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| November 18, 2009, 3:16 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor
WOW...and here I thought just LEGO was serious business. But toss in religion and it blows up like a nuke. You guys seriously don't have to try so hard to find/create drama.

True this site is to SHARE WHAT YOU MAKE not to start complaining about little things and make the dreadful drama and start typing screams instead of sharing maybe w.i.p's or lego creations maybe throw in history and sci-fi but this!?...:1
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| November 18, 2009, 6:01 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
this guy was giving a whole lot of trouble and we booted him

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/146042

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163696

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163905

and especially this one which shows us as murderers(as an admin for the CFOL i am seriously troubled)

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/113425

Well, I think some people are overeacting, I say he's taking being kicked out too hard. But do you really think anyone will really think you are murderers and hipocrites because of a MOC, frankly this is why I am against religious groups, not because people don't have the right to express their religion but because different views clash, and you lose friends and gain enemies. Just ignore him, he just wants attention.
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| November 18, 2009, 6:12 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
The CFOL is one of MOCpages' formost dramahatcheries.

That's partly why I left.


That's why I left to. That, and the fact I got in a fight with one of the Admins.

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| November 18, 2009, 7:28 pm
 Group admin 
Ok... time for my two cents.

Mocpages is a site for sharing LEGO creations. I don't remember seeing anything about this being a mecca for religious fanatics to run around and preach to the rest of the pages about what's right and wrong?

That being said, as much as I don't like people preaching with their builds, they are completely within their rights to do that... no matter how sad it is that they get so worked up over this on a LEGO site.

And there's the key word people... LEGO! This is a LEGO site! If you want to discuss religion, politics or anything else that you enjoy fighting over, please do it somewhere else.

For the record, I have religious beliefs of my own, but NEVER would I DREAM of imposing those beliefs on anyone here. If you don't like what someone here has to say, the easiest way to deal with it is... drum roll please...

Move on! That's right! You can either let it get you all worked up and make you run around posting mocs that you hope will tick people off, or you could just... oh I don't know... go draw on a clone trooper with a sharpie! Heck, I'd rather see THAT over and over again that have to deal with NON LEGO RELATED ISSUES ON MOCPAGES.

Like Shaddix said, forgive and move on. That's what I'd do at this point. Nothing you say or do will make this guy back down. He's got you worked up about it now and he knows what buttons to push to make you mad. Oh, and guess what? HE ENJOYS IT!

The best thing to do is when he posts something like that, for ALL of your group to completely ignore him! If even one of you responds to it, then he's won! Tell your friends to drop it! Don't respond in ANY way, good OR bad! Eventually, without any conflict for him to feed on, he's going to get bored and move on himself.

That's my advice, take it for what you will.

~Chris.
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| November 18, 2009, 9:06 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
this guy was giving a whole lot of trouble and we booted him

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/146042

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163696

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/163905

and especially this one which shows us as murderers(as an admin for the CFOL i am seriously troubled)

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/113425


That guy really bothers me. Worse than(no offence, since you changed) Shane.
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| November 18, 2009, 9:19 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
Ok... time for my two cents.

Mocpages is a site for sharing LEGO creations. I don't remember seeing anything about this being a mecca for religious fanatics to run around and preach to the rest of the pages about what's right and wrong?

That being said, as much as I don't like people preaching with their builds, they are completely within their rights to do that... no matter how sad it is that they get so worked up over this on a LEGO site.

And there's the key word people... LEGO! This is a LEGO site! If you want to discuss religion, politics or anything else that you enjoy fighting over, please do it somewhere else.

For the record, I have religious beliefs of my own, but NEVER would I DREAM of imposing those beliefs on anyone here. If you don't like what someone here has to say, the easiest way to deal with it is... drum roll please...

Move on! That's right! You can either let it get you all worked up and make you run around posting mocs that you hope will tick people off, or you could just... oh I don't know... go draw on a clone trooper with a sharpie! Heck, I'd rather see THAT over and over again that have to deal with NON LEGO RELATED ISSUES ON MOCPAGES.

Like Shaddix said, forgive and move on. That's what I'd do at this point. Nothing you say or do will make this guy back down. He's got you worked up about it now and he knows what buttons to push to make you mad. Oh, and guess what? HE ENJOYS IT!

The best thing to do is when he posts something like that, for ALL of your group to completely ignore him! If even one of you responds to it, then he's won! Tell your friends to drop it! Don't respond in ANY way, good OR bad! Eventually, without any conflict for him to feed on, he's going to get bored and move on himself.

That's my advice, take it for what you will.

~Chris.


Move... On..? What is the meaning of this? Move on from meaningless and petty arguements? That's blasphemy! That's madness!

Also, if all that is only two cents, your word economy must be in a depression.
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| November 18, 2009, 9:21 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor
toss in religion and it blows up like a nuke


That's been true throughout most of history. When taken to an extreme, even typically normal elements of civilization (like religion or politics) can turn into tragic atrocities.


I am glad you feel that way, thinking how religion, in the inside is good, used as a scape-goat, like the Crusades and now the Taliban.
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| November 18, 2009, 9:24 pm
Regardless these mocs attack specific group of people and therefore shouldnt they be removed?
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| November 18, 2009, 10:13 pm
Quoting Dave Shaddix

The droid army attacks the clones and the jedi on a daily basis, but nobody does a thing about it.

you know what i mean.
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| November 18, 2009, 10:24 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Lt. John Harland
Regardless these mocs attack specific group of people and therefore shouldnt they be removed?


Actually, that rule applies only to comments made on mocs and in groups. He can make any moc he wants (to a degree). His page is his "living room" and as long as he's comfortable saying what he wants to say on his page, he can. As much as we don't agree with it, he can do it.

Like I said, the more you respond to him, the more he gets a kick out of it. All you're doing is adding fuel to the fire. Your reaction is EXACTLY what he wants. Stop reacting and eventually he'll stop.
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| November 18, 2009, 10:27 pm
Quoting Dave Shaddix

The droid army attacks the clones and the jedi on a daily basis, but nobody does a thing about it.

Oh gosh. This just made my day =)
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| November 18, 2009, 10:53 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Chris Phipson
Stop reacting and eventually he'll stop.


I don't know...I keep ignoring you, but it hasn't helped one bit!


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| November 18, 2009, 11:26 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
That's blasphemy! That's madness!


Well it sure as heck isn't Sparta...

~kicks random mouthy messenger into pit~


Sparta? THIS IS MOCPAGES! /kicks your lego's into a pit of clonies


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| November 18, 2009, 11:34 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Mark Kelso

I don't know...I keep ignoring you, but it hasn't helped one bit!



Speaking of which... talk to ya in the morning! Be sure to have the feather duster handy.
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| November 19, 2009, 11:37 pm
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