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Ask Phipson Part 2
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First thread got a little long so, part 2!
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| November 7, 2009, 5:43 pm
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Quoting - Ridge -

Help me here. I want my creations to get NOTICED, I havent gotten a comment in a month. Help?


We'll put this here instead of starting a new thread. I've got a pretty basic formula for people to get their mocs noticed, but let's see what others on mocpages have to say before I weigh in on this.

Anyone? Help this kid out. That's what we're here for.
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| November 7, 2009, 5:45 pm
OK, Ridge. Be active in groups, comment on other people's things. They might want to go to your homepage and then to your MOCs if you leave maybe a little longer comment. Not just:
"Cool! I really like it." But maybe point out some techniques that you like. And, you could hint at them to check out your MOCs, I guess, by saying something this along with your comment: "That's a cool idea for a minifig gun, I should use that, my design is a bit simpler..." Only more so.
I dunno. That's just one of the techniques I use, but I didn't explain it well. Good luck!
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| November 7, 2009, 6:02 pm
@Ridge Getting popular is no easy matter, there is no simple way to get popular, I'd suggest being as active as you can, commenting on others creations and groups. Make good mocs (most people will check your stuff out, just out of curiosity especially if you make something never seen before) and commenting on others creations just to say "pleez chek out mah stuphz" won't get you many comments, but frankly I would trade all my one word comments for one sincere and honest critique. What I mean is would you rather have someone tell you how to improve your mocs or someone give you a 5?5 just so you look at their stuff?
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| November 7, 2009, 6:09 pm
How do I get lighting to look like the early morning or late evening?
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| November 7, 2009, 6:25 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
How do I get lighting to look like the early morning or late evening?

Use either a white light, or take them early in the morning in a well-iluminated room.
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| November 7, 2009, 6:28 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
How do I get lighting to look like the early morning or late evening?


Get up early or stay up late.

DO IT.

Early morning photos look incredible, if taken well. The interplay of light and shadow can be amazing.

Just check Eylar's stuff, he's got a reputation for that sort of thing for a reason.
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| November 7, 2009, 7:20 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
I have started a rebellion and am gathering troops the inappropriaat mocs will leave the pages or ill be banned trying! oh wait.. i havent done anything yet so you cane ban me oh well. :D

There's already been a rebellion it failed... if the first one did'nt work why would your's?
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| November 7, 2009, 9:58 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
I have started a rebellion and am gathering troops the inappropriaat mocs will leave the pages or ill be banned trying! oh wait.. i havent done anything yet so you cane ban me oh well. :D

Do what you want -- but do it somewhere else. I grow weary of this tomfoolery.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:04 pm
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...Don't... encourage him. Marks, as soon as someone posts an "inappropriate" moc, we delete it. Like I told you before, when someone crosses the line, we take care of it.

I have an idea, why don't you invite me to your group and I'll listen to your concerns. If you find ANYTHING that is against mocpages terms and conditions of use, I'll be more than happy to take care of it.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:05 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
Ok listen here ill pound you so hard for so long youll give in.


If you ask me, THAT is suggestive and inappropriate, not to mention a clear demonstration of a lack of good communication skills.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:13 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

We'll put this here instead of starting a new thread. I've got a pretty basic formula for people to get their mocs noticed, but let's see what others on mocpages have to say before I weigh in on this.

Anyone? Help this kid out. That's what we're here for.

help me by checking this:http://mocpages.com/moc.php/164114
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| November 7, 2009, 10:13 pm
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Couldn't let that one stay Areesta. sorry.


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| November 7, 2009, 10:13 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
.as soon as someone posts an "inappropriate" moc, we delete it.

...Don't you mean comment? I thought you said you could say what you wanted on your pages.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:20 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
Ok listen here ill pound you so hard for so long youll give in. i hurt the CFOL and took over the AOT. moc pages aint that much bigger

HURRA HURRA FOR THE MOCER RIGHTS HURRA HURRA FOR THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG THAT BEARS A SINGLE STAR HURRAY HURRA FOR THE MOCERS RIGHTS HURRA HURRA FOR THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG THAT BEAS A SINGLE STAR!


Although, for some reason, it is a red flag with a white circle, and a black cross in the middle that comes to mind when I read such drivel.

Lee
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| November 7, 2009, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Doctor Maxim
...Don't you mean comment? I thought you said you could say what you wanted on your pages.


There have been a number of "creations" that are not fit for mocpages. I'm not going to tell you what they were, but let's just say that they were not fit for young eyes... These accounts have also been deleted and the IP address blocked. Trust me, it happens more than you know.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:22 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
Ok listen here ill pound you so hard for so long youll give in. i hurt the CFOL and took over the AOT. moc pages aint that much bigger

HURRA HURRA FOR THE MOCER RIGHTS HURRA HURRA FOR THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG THAT BEARS A SINGLE STAR HURRAY HURRA FOR THE MOCERS RIGHTS HURRA HURRA FOR THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG THAT BEAS A SINGLE STAR!
WOW!! You would have told me that before, I would'nt have dared to mess with you. I am shocked, truly amazed, astounded! /head explodes due to excesive amounts of sarcasm/

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| November 7, 2009, 10:24 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
I'm not a Nazi im a FREEDOM FIGHTER FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT EVERYDAY!!! (triumph)

Like the FARC?
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| November 7, 2009, 10:25 pm
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Quoting Erik. (yes that ''Crash'' person)
help me by checking this:http://mocpages.com/moc.php/


Ok, I'll help you. What you just did there is called SPAM and is generally looked down upon on mocpages. Simply asking someone to "chek out mi stuf" is probably the worst way to get attention.

If you want to get noticed on mocpages, I'll tell you the secret...

A: Build GOOD mocs!
and
B: Leave nice comments on other peoples creations WITHOUT asking them to check out your stuff.

I know, sounds too simple to actually work, but trust me, it does.

Good luck!

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| November 7, 2009, 10:27 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
go ahead laugh but i don't know what that is.
OK then, lol/rofl/lawlz

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| November 7, 2009, 10:27 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
Quoting Erik. (yes that ''Crash'' person)
help me by checking this:http://mocpages.com/moc.php/


Ok, I'll help you. What you just did there is called SPAM and is generally looked down upon on mocpages. Simply asking someone to "chek out mi stuf" is probably the worst way to get attention.

If you want to get noticed on mocpages, I'll tell you the secret...

A: Build GOOD mocs!
and
B: Leave nice comments on other peoples creations WITHOUT asking them to check out your stuff.

I know, sounds too simple to actually work, but trust me, it does.

Good luck!

sorry...
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| November 7, 2009, 10:29 pm
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Quoting Erik. (yes that ''Crash'' person)
sorry...


Don't apologize, I was giving you real sound advice there, not complaining. I hope it helps you.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:31 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
Couldn't let that one stay Areetsa. sorry.


Not a problem.
Monty Python probably wasn't the right thing to link there, in retrospect.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:32 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Don't apologize, I was giving you real sound advice there, not complaining. I hope it helps you.

Thanks for the great advice from the all mighty Chris!
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| November 7, 2009, 10:33 pm
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Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
dont be sorry as soon as my comment is approved. adn dont say sorry to IT. lolz


Your comment was deleted because you attempted to swear using numbers in place of letters. This is against the rules and won't be allowed.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:34 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Your comment was deleted because you attempted to swear using numbers in place of letters. This is against the rules and won't be allowed.


I think adding a number of common 1337sp33k blocker bypasses to the blocked list might be an idea.

Quoting Dave Shaddix

you may not be, but you are walking a fine line and well on your way to wearing a white-hooded robe to your social events.

Those T's you kids put all over your home pages should have flames on them for added realism.


That's why I don't use one.
Gives the wrong impression of association with the CFOL.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
Where did I swear? . I also tried to delete my commment ,and apologize right before this was posted.


One of the hard and fast rules of moderation is when someone tries to get around the censors by using numbers (in your case, the number 3) instead of letters, the comment gets deleted, no question.

Just using numbers in plac3 of l33ters isn't wr0ng, only when you use them to get around moderation.


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| November 7, 2009, 10:40 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

There have been a number of "creations" that are not fit for mocpages. I'm not going to tell you what they were, but let's just say that they were not fit for young eyes... These accounts have also been deleted and the IP address blocked. Trust me, it happens more than you know.

Ah, I see...
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| November 7, 2009, 10:40 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
Ok how about this. I'll stop mr rebellion,and not look at your mocs. ok. Then we are all happy snce you all h8 me. ok?


I thought you told Phaze you were leaving. Permamently.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:42 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

One of the hard and fast rules of moderation is when someone tries to get around the censors by using numbers (in your case, the number 3) instead of letters, the comment gets deleted, no question.

Just using numbers in plac3 of l33ters isn't wr0ng, only when you use them to get around moderation.


Chris why is the word cokpit (correct spelling) blocked? It's kind of annoying when commenting on a ship.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:43 pm
Quoting Juan Carranza
Chris why is the word cokpit (correct spelling) blocked, it's kind of annoying when commenting on a ship.


Well, if you have a space in the middle, it's because a certain word for a rooster also refers to a segment of anatomy.

If there's no space, I dunno.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:46 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
my rebellion group is nw a harmless chat group ok. with NO members. so I'm sorry for the fighting Irealize you won't budge on this. I warn you though there will be younger generations that come to moc pages fighting and us teens will help. ,but for now....you win.:(


This sort of gibberish is why I don't like to publicly identify myself as a 'TFOL'.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:48 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Well, if you have a space in the middle, it's because a certain word for a rooster also refers to a segment of anatomy.

If there's no space, I dunno.

No space in the middle...
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| November 7, 2009, 10:50 pm
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Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
I'm sorry for cluttering up your discussion my rebellion stands down.


As I stated before, if you find something that IS against the rules of mocpages, let me know. You not agreeing with something on moral grounds is not enough to justify that it should be removed.

I thank you for your concern about the content of mocpages but what you are (or were) trying to do was to infringe on other peoples 1st amendment rights. All we ask is that you check ALL your facts before attempting to start a fight/war/rebellion or what ever. KNOW what the rules actually are before you say that someone else has broken them.

Case in point, you made some discriminatory remarks against another religion in one of my threads. Technically, what you did WAS against the rules. Please be sure you know what you're talking about before starting something like this again.

In the mean time, I wish you all the best in your LEGO building here on mocpages. After all, that's what this site IS FOR... Please, everyone... go back to building.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:50 pm
Quoting Juan Carranza
No space in the middle...

sad sad correct spelling mistakes when does the computer ever learn..:1
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| November 7, 2009, 10:51 pm
Quoting Erik. (yes that ''Crash'' person)
sad sad correct spelling mistakes when does the computer ever learn..:1
lol, correct mistakes, I might use that to confuse people sometime...

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| November 7, 2009, 10:53 pm
You're right. It is blocked.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Juan Carranza
Chris why is the word cokpit (correct spelling) blocked, it's kind of annoying when commenting on a ship.


Because the first part of the correct spelling of that word is a word that got a kid IP banned. I know it's annoying but these are the things we have to deal with when people go out of there way to start fights here instead of just building.

I'm sorry. Maybe call it the "cabin" from now on. Or the flight deck. Those aren't marked for moderation yet... yet. HAHAHA

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| November 7, 2009, 10:54 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Because the first part of the correct spelling of that word is a word that got a kid IP banned. I know it's annoying but these are the things we have to deal with when people go out of there way to start fights here instead of just building.

I'm sorry. Maybe call it the "cabin" from now on. Or the flight deck. Those aren't marked for moderation yet... yet. HAHAHA

OK, thanks but there are other words that "contain" profanities in them, are those banned too?
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| November 7, 2009, 10:57 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Because the first part of the correct spelling of that word is a word that got a kid IP banned. I know it's annoying but these are the things we have to deal with when people go out of there way to start fights here instead of just building.

I'm sorry. Maybe call it the "cabin" from now on. Or the flight deck. Those aren't marked for moderation yet... yet. HAHAHA


The trouble is, the 'roosterpit' is a fighter aircraft component, where the pilot sits, whereas a flight deck is the part of an airliner in which the pilot and copilot are, and the cabin is where the passengers sit.

Could cause problems in discussions about aircraft in which multiple conversations are going on at once.
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| November 7, 2009, 10:57 pm

Quoting Juan Carranza
@Ridge Getting popular is no easy matter, there is no simple way to get popular, I'd suggest being as active as you can, commenting on others creations and groups. Make good mocs (most people will check your stuff out, just out of curiosity especially if you make something never seen before) and commenting on others creations just to say "pleez chek out mah stuphz" won't get you many comments, but frankly I would trade all my one word comments for one sincere and honest critique. What I mean is would you rather have someone tell you how to improve your mocs or someone give you a 5?5 just so you look at their stuff?


This really sounds like something I would say, you must read minds or see the future or something along those lines.



You know what, if you come to Mocpages looking for popularity then really why do you come here to this site? I mean Mocpages is all about post creations and sharing those creations with other people who like what you build. I mean really if you look at Mark, Chris and other great builders. They do not look for the popularity when they build their creations. They build those creations because either they were fun to make or they found out a new and creative way to make something, and it just happened to get noticed by a lot of people. So basically the younger builders, take your time, your chance of greatness will come. The way to becoming a master is long and difficult young padawans but you will learn the ways of what the masters know when the time is right [I am not saying that I am a master, I am only a mere Knight learning to become a master but it is the best thing I could come up with :P]


Hopefully my message will get across, or not...
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| November 7, 2009, 10:58 pm
Back on topic:
Why is it that all the interesting convos in groups happen in topics that started for completely different discussions?
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| November 7, 2009, 11:06 pm
Quoting Robo Man

This really sounds like something I would say, you must read minds or see the future or something along those lines.



You know what, if you come to Mocpages looking for popularity then really why do you come here to this site? I mean Mocpages is all about post creations and sharing those creations with other people who like what you build. I mean really if you look at Mark, Chris and other great builders. They do not look for the popularity when they build their creations. They build those creations because either they were fun to make or they found out a new and creative way to make something, and it just happened to get noticed by a lot of people. So basically the younger builders, take your time, your chance of greatness will come. The way to becoming a master is long and difficult young padawans but you will learn the ways of what the masters know when the time is right [I am not saying that I am a master, I am only a mere Knight learning to become a master but it is the best thing I could come up with :P]


Hopefully my message will get across, or not...

If only people understood these words when posting MOCS and commenting on MOCs, MOCpages would be a better place. I don't read minds or see in to the future (a true shame) just givin my usual Yoda advise.
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| November 7, 2009, 11:06 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
my rebellion group is nw a harmless chat group ok. with NO members. so I'm sorry for the fighting Irealize you won't budge on this. I warn you though there will be younger generations that come to moc pages fighting and us teens will help. ,but for now....you win.:(


No one wins as long as there are people who spell as badly as you. I never thought I would say this, but I think Dennis should teach you some proper English. I think I smell a new group forming for you Dennis! LOL

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| November 7, 2009, 11:18 pm
Quoting Dave Shaddix

I think that in a lot of ways, the groups have greatly improved MOCpages.It is easier to communicate, run contests and less spam on our MOCs now.

The flipside is that now we have thousands of groups with zero focus. We have children wielding administrative powers who are running amuck, causing undo drama and stress. There is so much to get lost in now, that it is hard to focus on just the MOCs.

Well I'm new to MP, and I can't imagine how it was before the groups, but some people should'nt have administrative powers, I've seen groups with(for example) 30 members and 10 admins and 20 moderators, all the drama is completely pointless considering MP is made so we can share our creations with the rest of the Lego community.
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| November 7, 2009, 11:18 pm
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Quoting Juan Carranza
...all the drama is completely pointless considering MP is made so we can share our creations with the rest of the Lego community.


FINALLY! Someone gets it! THANK YOU!
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| November 7, 2009, 11:29 pm
Quoting Juan Carranza
Well I'm new to MP, and I can't imagine how it was before the groups, but some people should'nt have administrative powers, I've seen groups with(for example) 30 members and 10 admins and 20 moderators, all the drama is completely pointless considering MP is made so we can share our creations with the rest of the Lego community.


One moderator per 50 members is quite a sufficient ratio.

The trouble is that in most kiddie egoballoon groups, modship is given to the first 5/10/15/20/25 people who ask/join/say chek owt may stuffz/chek out their 1337 stuffz.
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| November 7, 2009, 11:34 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

FINALLY! Someone gets it! THANK YOU!

Well thanks, but I truly think forming an arguement over plastic is downright ridiculous.
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| November 7, 2009, 11:37 pm
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Quoting Juan Carranza
Well thanks, but I truly think forming an arguement over plastic is downright ridiculous.


You and about 90% of the rest of mocpages. It's just a few of them that make it bad for the rest of us.

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| November 7, 2009, 11:39 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

You and about 90% of the rest of mocpages. It's just a few of them that make it bad for the rest of us.
That 10% just seems so big sometimes...

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| November 7, 2009, 11:42 pm
You also have to understand Juan that Commander Marks is a known instigator who tries to disrupt groups. Why does he do it? For attention. He adds absolutely NOTHING positive to MOC pages. Why he's still around is beyond me. Let him play his childish games. It's going to catch up to him eventually.
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| November 7, 2009, 11:46 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Because the first part of the correct spelling of that word is a word that got a kid IP banned. I know it's annoying but these are the things we have to deal with when people go out of there way to start fights here instead of just building.

I'm sorry. Maybe call it the "cabin" from now on. Or the flight deck. Those aren't marked for moderation yet... yet. HAHAHA

I know that word and it means bad things:{
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| November 8, 2009, 7:53 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
Maybe call it the "cabin" from now on. Or the flight deck. Those aren't marked for moderation yet... yet. HAHAHA

So we can use terms like cabin pressure? Not so bad. XP Haha!

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| November 8, 2009, 7:27 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

Sadly, genuine constructive criticism is getting to be a rare thing these days.

True, and what's worse is that people that give constructive criticism are labeled as being mean and overly-critical, much like Phaze was.
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| November 8, 2009, 8:16 pm
Quoting Juan Carranza
True, and what's worse is that people that give constructive criticism are labeled as being mean and overly-critical, much like Phaze was.


Oh yeah, I've run into that one alright.
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| November 8, 2009, 8:21 pm
Quoting Blade Bat
Sorry about the review thing I didn't realize I was causing trouble. the thing is I usauly just say what I think. But also some times I look through a moc and there is alot I like and don't like and some times I typing about what I don't like and realize I have sayed a lot think it's enough and then forget to say what I do like. I will be more care full now but if people have a problem with let me now and also sorry to who ever it was.

Don't be sorry, criticism is what makes us better people/moccers/anything, if that person can't handle your criticism it's their fault and their problem not yours.
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| November 8, 2009, 8:30 pm
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That's not exactly what we were talking about Juan, but you're right to a degree. There was more to the issue that what is seen here.

BladeBat. Thank you for realizing the deal here. I think you can understand that while critisizm is always welcome, just be careful about WHO you choose to critisize and what in the moc you're talking about.

Like I said though, it wasn't just one person. A number of people have been coming to me about this. Thank you for manning up and taking responsibilty for it. In my eyes, you're good to go.

~Chris.
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| November 8, 2009, 8:36 pm
Quoting Commander Marks CC-124
I'm not a Nazi im a FREEDOM FIGHTER FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT EVERYDAY!!! (triumph)

Fuerzas Armadas REVOLUCIONARIAS de Colombia, they sound like freedom fighters too...
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| November 8, 2009, 8:37 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

"War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength"

- “Ministry of Truth” (George Orwell’s 1984)


That is a great book.
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| November 8, 2009, 9:01 pm
How long have you been a police officer, Chris? It sounds like an interesting career.
And now for some useless question; where are you in your buddy icon? A garden? How un-manly... :P Jk.

And are you guys going to put up a group pic, like in MP help? (Only saying 'advice')
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| November 8, 2009, 9:31 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

Laugh it up! That just happens to be the garden where Phipson cultivates his little flower-bed of horror...
Flesh-eating petunias, acid-spitting daisies, Japanese tentacle-vines that can smell fear...

And to think he's an officer!
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| November 8, 2009, 9:48 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

People need to "grow tougher skins" and not take everything so personally.

Agreed.

wait, r u sayng i hav wek skin? ur so mean!

/Sobs

Sorry. Couldn't resist. :P
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| November 8, 2009, 9:57 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

People need to "grow tougher skins" and not take everything so personally.


Which is what Phaze tries to teach. He's like Jigsaw from Saw, except instead of trying to make people love life, he's trying to get them to take criticism.
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| November 8, 2009, 9:57 pm
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That's actually taken in my back yard on my porch. We've got vines growing up behind the built in picnic area. If I ever get around to building a minifig scale version of my house (an itch I need to scratch soon) you'll be able to see what I'm talking about...

Poison garden you say...?
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| November 8, 2009, 10:46 pm
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