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Quoting Architect of Vonthako

Herd mentality - people with little or no imagination/creativity/originality see something they perceive as "cool" (a view often influenced by peer pressure), and soon everyone is emulating it. That's how fads work.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

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| October 24, 2009, 4:46 pm
Quoting Connor Brown
why exactly are awesome creations abandoned in Favor For
a multicolored venator?


Because the kiddies like to cluster themselves together and give each of them multiple comments to one person and also that same person reply "thank you" to every comment that is left by his kiddie friends and thus overshadowing all the good Star Wars creations
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| October 24, 2009, 6:54 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

The comments that the builder leaves (i.e. "thank you" don't actually count toward the rating. It obviously counts toward total comments, and probably "most discussed" too, but you cannot rate your own MOC from your own account.


Well the "Total Dicussed" gets blocked by the kiddies and thus some of the good Star Wars creations never surface to the homepage. [I meant to say that but I just got to lazy :P] luckily I have made it to the homepage once or twice on "Across Mocpages"
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| October 24, 2009, 7:06 pm
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Quoting Architect of Vonthako

The comments that the builder leaves (i.e. "thank you" don't actually count toward the rating. It obviously counts toward total comments, and probably "most discussed" too, but you cannot rate your own MOC from your own account.


That's why when I reply to comments, I try to put as many replies in one comment as I can. This helps cut down on "spam" comments from me on my stuff. I also try to avoid "conversations" on my mocs. Just too much clutter...

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| October 24, 2009, 7:06 pm
Quoting Heather LEGOgirl

for me it will never stop;)
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| October 25, 2009, 6:36 pm
Well, it also has to do with popularity, how popular you are with everyone. I was looking at a nazi zombie creation by Micheal Sloper, a recent moccer, and he had 53 smilies, and all it was was a wall, two minifigs, and some pieces on the floor. We all know if that had been made by someone else (someone not so popular) people either wouldn't rate it, or worse, rate it badly. But hey, that's just how it works.
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| December 15, 2009, 11:01 pm
I like Star Wars. I just don't take whatever piece I can that's the right shape and make some junky multi-colored "thing". I try to find the pieces that I need for making something with either 1 or 2 color(s). That's why it takes a while for me to post MOCs. But sometimes I ask my mom to order from PAB. That's why I'm not a clone-tard. What the heck. I pretty much just said an entire speech. Sortta. Maybe an essay.
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| December 15, 2009, 11:07 pm
It is really irritating to see a small Star Wars moc with five clones, a jedi, and a geonosian have around 50 smilies, while i struggle to get past 20. If only there was a Star Wars Mocpages...
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| December 15, 2009, 11:22 pm
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

BTW, one of my hobbies is studying psychology and sociology.


Why, same here!

@Lite: You call that a speech? You should see some of my longer-winded comments... Like this one!

Anyways, clonetards are generally little kids, ages anywhere from 9-13, from what I've seen. Hey, I was just like that when I was that age, but fortunately for myself and everyone else, I never posted anything from that era. Well, maybe one thing, but I deleted it, I think.

But, little kids like to be liked. And they like to be known. And they like to be in on popular things. Clone Wars happens to be popular, because it has 1: Sword fights, 2: Guns, 3: Space ships, 4: Cool things, and 5: Lots of explosions. Heck, if it wasn't so immature and biased in one side of things, I'd like the show too.

Let's add in something else into the mix: Lego's. Little kids, especially, though not limited to, the males, they like to build things, and take things apart. I'm sure most of us can agree here. And building/taking apart is the fundamental purpose of lego. So you got an internet lego site, Clone Wars the TV show, and the lego to build things from it. It's like Chemistry class, a reaction happens. That reaction is lots of uhleet klun camandrz and not that well built creations, but they still find an audience in each other. This is exactly what happened with Halo, back in the day when I was but a lurker on this site, or possible my earliest account activity.

You see, this is only natural of young, preteens with the resources to build things that they think are pretty cool, and can gain popularity from. It's like middle school with lego's. Right down to the drama. You can't really stop it, only hope to get the message through to them as they get older, that more quality=better, even if it means more work. I know plenty of people who I've seen improve greatly over the past year, not to mention the past 6 months *cough*Gus Indo*cough*. They aren't hopeless, but until they grow out of that quest for attention and popularity, they'll just be an inconvenience to people like me, Phaze, and many more, who'd rather have a low rated review telling us how to improve than a 5 stars saying "cool 5 stars". That's a real comment left on one of my MOCs, by the way.
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| December 15, 2009, 11:36 pm
Quoting brick freak
It is really irritating to see a small Star Wars moc with five clones, a jedi, and a geonosian have around 50 smilies, while i struggle to get past 20. If only there was a Star Wars Mocpages...

Yeah. You and I both.
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| December 15, 2009, 11:37 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I know plenty of people who I've seen improve greatly over the past year, not to mention the past 6 months *cough*Gus Indo*cough*.

I think I fall under the 6 month category. I made a folder yesterday for anything I didn't make in the past two months or so, and comparing that to my other stuff shows what I mean.
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| December 16, 2009, 6:00 pm
Easy. Population. There's argueablly more clonetards then HALO kiddies on MP. And, they are all little kidies. So, they all flock to the least sign of a clone and leave acomment saying: "d1s 1sh c00l, c4n u g1v3 m3 instrucktions???" That's how clones are so popular.
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| December 16, 2009, 6:50 pm
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I blame the internet and bad parenting.
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| December 16, 2009, 8:33 pm
To be truthful, I ALMOST didn't join MocPages. When I first checked it out I saw all these so similar Clones, Bionicles and whatnot that I almost logged off. It was by mere happenstance that the next page I looked at was Sean's. Fortunate for me! I've never seen so much creativity and style in all my years as I have in the last few weeks! I just gotta remember that the clonetards and such don't really represent MocPages. It's the people like Kelso, Phippson, Heather and Sean, etc., who are really doing things with Lego. (Yeah, Bones and LDD, you're included in that, as well as the other favorites I've added.) I guess my point is that we should just ignore these "gnats" and let them G33K all they want! I may be out of line with that, but it's the way I feel. Thanx for giving me the space to vent.
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| December 16, 2009, 8:45 pm
It's Stalin's fault.
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| December 16, 2009, 9:05 pm
I blame me, just because. Oh, and sharpies.
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| December 16, 2009, 9:47 pm
Well frankly that most people are lured by hollow promises of "coment on mah commander ? and ill coment on to of ur machs!" and how they spam groups and MOCs, seriously the most common kind of comment is "cool, chek out my ? (insert link to said moc)" However maybe Mr. Bones' is right, the sharpie fumes may have something to do with it =P
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| December 16, 2009, 10:02 pm
I blame taco bell and tuna fish salad sandwiches.
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| December 16, 2009, 10:10 pm
Quoting Rusty S.
It's Stalin's fault.

perfect.
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| December 17, 2009, 8:05 am
I blame George Lucas and incompetent grammar teachers.


Seriously, I can get all the spamming of each other's creations, the physiological aspect of that makes sense to me. But why on earth do they write the way they do?
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| December 17, 2009, 8:07 am
Quoting Thomas N
...But why on earth do they write the way they do?

Cuz dey tinnk its kewl! Just kidding, but thats exactly why.
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| December 17, 2009, 9:29 am
Quoting Thomas N


But why on earth do they write the way they do?

Parents must have something to do with it as well. if the parent doesn't encourage good grammar, chances are that the child will not develop proper writing skills. The advent of texting only makes these writing skills worse.

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| December 17, 2009, 9:52 am
Quoting Architect of Vonthako

Same here. Star Wars just doesn't feel as awesome as it used to back in the day...

Personaly, I'm starting to think that clones brought about the ruination of Star Wars. I think The CW was the final straw.
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| December 17, 2009, 3:24 pm
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