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So, can we ask questions now? I'd like to know how long it took you to come up with this contest? The concept was really great. Giving two categories, one with size restrictions, one without. So in theory everybody should have had the time and parts to at least enter one of them. For a contest, that was hosted, judged and sponsored by only one person, this went really well. Though you might have wished that less people joined while writing the reviews, I think the total number of entries says it all. I hope there will be more contests like this, but I fear not...


Now on to the review.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/163989

"This is one of those entries that made me wish I was much wealthier and/or much more generous, so I could give out multiple prizes. I really like the juxtaposition of the futuristic with the natural, because it so often seems that in Lego, never the twain shall meet -- landscaping is reserved for Castle MOCs, and in futuristic ones, nature has been completely banished."

I don't think you need to apologize for only having prizes for the winners. Actually the fact that you have prizes for the winners makes you more generous than almost anyone else on MOCpages. You gave us the opportunity to win them, it was a fair competition and we didn't give you anything in return.
It was never my plan to mix sci-fi and nature, the scene was meant to be located in the northern part of Japan. This prefecture, Hokkaido, is well known for its untouched nature. I just tried to build a scene depicting Hokkaido in a hundred years...so I'm glad you pointed that out, might try to keep that in mind for future MOCs. Also that recent "Avatar" movie seems to produce a few of those sci-fi and nature MOCs ;)

"The cow getting blown off its feet is a fun detail. The little stream is great, though the crab seems a bit out of place there -- I'd prefer a frog, myself. I like the technique you were going for on the seafoam outside the retaining wall, but I do feel the white slopes should have been bunched together a bit tighter. As it is they sort of look like teeth."

The frog, if you look closely, sits in the pond ;) It's hard to spot. While I have seen a frog once in Japan, there are crabs en masse. I like the crab, it adds another colour while the frog would hardly be noticed. I agree on the seafoam. It should look more like waves and not so much like teeth. It looks good from a distance. I will try to improve it next time ;)

"It's extremely well-built, looks cool, and takes on a unique subject matter. I only wish you'd given us as many detail shots of the landscaping and installation as you have of the ships. The ships are of course awesome, but since we get to see them without the dio, it's only fair that we should see the dio without them -- the landing pad at one end in particular."

Yeah, you are right. I took quite a lot pictures of it, but as this is so long, I had to photograph it on the shelf, with no background. So I had to cut that out in photoshop later. Something I didn't really enjoy, that's why I stopped after 3 pics and photographed the modules on their own. Now I agree that I should have rather posted it one day later with better and more photos. There was not much left out though...a neon green T on the rail and a hidden stair on the back ;) Maybe I'll add those pics sooner or later...probably later ;)

So, thanks again for a great contest!






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| February 3, 2010, 12:18 pm
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Quoting Space Pirate
So, can we ask questions now?

Haha, yes, you can all ask questions now!

Quoting Space Pirate
I'd like to know how long it took you to come up with this contest?

I 'd had the idea for a while. I bought the Cool Cars set a long time ago but never opened it, which is weird for me since I usually rip into the box the instant I get a new set home. Since I was obviously getting along fine without it, I thought I'd give it away as a prize.

It turns out I am the admin of both the Vignettes group - http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/20 - and the Dioramas group - http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/34 - and that some people were complaining that they weren't active. I'm not into a lot of random chatter, so they are essentially photo dumps. The contest was sort of a response to that, although for some reason I never promoted this contest in either of the groups.

When I won the Power Miners set at BrickCon, I was all set. It didn't have a lot of parts I wanted, and it cost me nothing, so it was perfect to give away. Two parts to the contest, two main prizes.

It was so open-ended because most contests I'd seen are very specific, and thus a lot of entries end up looking similar. I build a little bit of everything, and wanted to see a similar diversity in the entries. I'd quickly get bored if they were all the same theme.

Quoting Space Pirate
Though you might have wished that less people joined while writing the reviews

You got that right!

Quoting Space Pirate
I hope there will be more contests like this, but I fear not...

Not for a while, that's for sure. I'll have to see how I feel next year, see if I want to make it an annual tradition.

Quoting Space Pirate
It was never my plan to mix sci-fi and nature, the scene was meant to be located in the northern part of Japan. This prefecture, Hokkaido, is well known for its untouched nature. I just tried to build a scene depicting Hokkaido in a hundred years...so I'm glad you pointed that out, might try to keep that in mind for future MOCs. Also that recent "Avatar" movie seems to produce a few of those sci-fi and nature MOCs ;)

I think most sci-fi MOCs have tended to be urban or inside bases because architecture is very period-specific, whereas a tree looks the same whether it's growing in the year 1500, 2000, or 2500. And as human civilization eats away more and more at nature, the logical outcome is that in some distant future, it will have been eaten almost totally away. With the popularity of Avatar and the growing popularity of the so-called "green revolution," it will be interesting to see whether a more nature-conscious mindset will emerge in Lego MOCs and other popular art.

Quoting Space Pirate
I like the crab, it adds another colour while the frog would hardly be noticed.

My objection to the crab wasn't made very clear -- my reviews are no more perfect than any of the MOCs! I think of crabs as a saltwater creature so it looked out of place by the stream. But now it occurs to me that there are freshwater crabs too. So we can throw that complaint out the window, I guess.

And you're absolutely right about the color.

Quoting Space Pirate
I had to photograph it on the shelf, with no background. So I had to cut that out in photoshop later. Something I didn't really enjoy, that's why I stopped after 3 pics and photographed the modules on their own.

Perfectly understandable. I've done a few MOCs where I had to edit out the background, and it is a tedious (and occasionally frustrating) process. The cry for more pictures is just another way of paying a compliment.

Quoting Space Pirate
There was not much left out though...a neon green T on the rail and a hidden stair on the back ;)

I knew we were missing out on something!


I'd just like to say that your written English is better than that of many native speakers. No need to feel self conscious. I understand if it feels like a struggle as you're getting it out, but the end result is perfect.

I think you have the requisite skills and knowledge, and ability to clearly express your thoughts, to make in-depth critiques of your own, if you ever felt like giving it a try.
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| February 3, 2010, 9:47 pm
Thanks for this extensive reply ;)
Quoting Shannon Young I bought the Cool Cars set a long time ago but never opened it

Wow. I know there are some freaks who collect the 'Lego in the box', without ever opening it. I don't know what this is good for, maybe it saves space. But to think that you didn't care to open it...I rarely buy sets, but when I do I buy those I really want (mostly because of the minifigs), so I can't wait to open them. Makes me wonder why you actually bought that car in the first place ^^
Quoting Shannon Young The contest was sort of a response to that, although for some reason I never promoted this contest in either of the groups.

By the way, is there a certain reason you didn't promote it on flickr either? Actually I don't know why I ask, just thought that you missed out on a chance to get more of the 'better' builders interested in the competition. Though, they probably wouldn't join MOCpages anyway...so, whatever...
Quoting Shannon Young My objection to the crab wasn't made very clear -- my reviews are no more perfect than any of the MOCs! I think of crabs as a saltwater creature so it looked out of place by the stream. But now it occurs to me that there are freshwater crabs too. So we can throw that complaint out the window, I guess.

OK! Thanks, I really wondered what it was ;) They might even be land crabs, I've actually never seen them inside the water, just near the waterside :P However, I think your reviews were great! You said that you focused on the negative aspects rather than pointing out the good things. There is no problem with that, in fact you had to focus on them to make clear, why those MOCs didn't win.
Quoting Shannon Young I'd just like to say that your written English is better than that of many native speakers. No need to feel self conscious. I understand if it feels like a struggle as you're getting it out, but the end result is perfect.

I think you have the requisite skills and knowledge, and ability to clearly express your thoughts, to make in-depth critiques of your own, if you ever felt like giving it a try.


Thank you! Yeah, probably I should give it a try once in a while. Though I'll rather wait and see what your guest reviews look like ;)
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| February 5, 2010, 5:02 pm
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Quoting Space Pirate
Makes me wonder why you actually bought that car in the first place

I bought it because it was cheap and was a nice little yellow parts pack. Why I never opened it... well, I did say that was weird for me. Mostly I think it is because my collection has been overflowing my sorting system for a long time anyway, and when I was building I never needed a part from that set that I didn't already have, so I just never got around to it.

Quoting Space Pirate
By the way, is there a certain reason you didn't promote it on flickr either?

I don't really like flickr, so I'm not nearly as active and "known" there as I am here. I thought I'd get more than enough entries to deal with just keeping it within MOCpages. Writing 54 reviews was enough, thank you!
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| February 6, 2010, 5:54 am
OK, no more questions, I promise :D
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| February 6, 2010, 12:47 pm
Quoting Shannon Young
I knew we were missing out on something!

Quoting Space Pirate
Maybe I'll add those pics sooner or later...probably later ;)

I eventually managed to upload those pics.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/205769
Just scroll down. ;)

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| June 3, 2010, 8:29 pm
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