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Let us know what kind of ship you're building on,
a pirateship ? imperial ship, trading ship ? how many cannons ?
sail plan ? costum or prefab hulls ? and so on
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| May 7, 2011, 7:53 am
Quoting Sebeus I
Let us know what kind of ship you're building on,
a pirateship ? imperial ship, trading ship ? how many cannons ?
sail plan ? costum of prefab hulls ? and so on
I haven't planned much yet, but soon I want to start building another ship, either a pirate ship or a french ship. It won't be as big as my HMS Majestic though, but it will be a good opponent for it. Because of my HMS Majestic, I haven't got many pieces left. But I will buy more parts off ebay

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| May 7, 2011, 4:29 pm
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I ordered the Queen Anne's Revenge some days ago, quite expensive but I can't wait any longer (for the black pearl)
I really needed some new pirates.
a day later I found a Black Seas Barracuda in perfect condition for 100 euro but I can't afford it now that I already bought Queen Anne's Revenge :S

anyway, I hope my package arrives monday so I can get this party started :P
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| May 7, 2011, 5:43 pm
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sorry for being so inactive lately =),
but im soon comming up with my new imperial ship, i think i will call it gunner runner, but im not sure yet =) i will get the last pieces for it (hopely) by tomorrow at the postal office,
it has been an expensive one , but hopely all money worth when the last pieces has commed together, and it will have 10 gunports at lower deck, and i cant figure out to make gunports in top deck or what, =)
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| May 26, 2011, 2:07 pm
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Quoting morthen poulsen
sorry for being so inactive lately =),
but im soon comming up with my new imperial ship, i think i will call it gunner runner, but im not sure yet =) i will get the last pieces for it (hopely) by tomorrow at the postal office,
it has been an expensive one , but hopely all money worth when the last pieces has commed together, and it will have 10 gunports at lower deck, and i cant figure out to make gunports in top deck or what, =)


Gunner Runner sounds catchy, I'll be looking forward to it.
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| May 28, 2011, 9:03 am
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gunner runner it is then, and good for its almost done, the only thing i need is to design the intinior in the captains cabin, and to find an idol and place it hehe ,
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| May 29, 2011, 11:39 am
Now I'll start working on a Caravel... Portuguese ship :D
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| June 19, 2011, 5:27 am
I'm currently working on a fairly accurate version of the historic HMS Surprise.
She was originally a french corvette "L´unite"
launced in 1794 with an armament of 24 8 pdr and 8 4 pdr. longguns.
in 1796 she was taken by the british and was rearmed with 24 32 pdr, 8 16 pdr carronades and 4 6 pdr longguns.
in that proces she was also coppered.
The model I´m building is that british version.
she was considered a 5th rater in 1797-1798 but as a 6th rater for the rest of her commision.
I have built most of the hull but am now in the middle of the mess of the stern.
The model so far has been uploaded elsewhere as
Hms Surprise wip.
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| June 28, 2011, 6:33 pm
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You're a member of classic-pirates.com as well ?
I've seen it then, very nice
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| June 29, 2011, 1:14 am
Now I'm working on a 5th rate Frigate of the Hms Lively class. These frigates where all launched and comissioned during the Napoleonic wars. She will have 28 18 pdr longguns, 4 9 pdr longguns and 14+ 32 pdr carronades (wikipedia says 14, but all drawings indicate more gunports for 32 pdr carronades). The Lively class Frigates saw a lot of action, taking many prices, so she will clearly fit the theme of the group.
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| July 25, 2011, 8:29 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
You're a member of classic-pirates.com as well ?
I've seen it then, very nice


I'm not a member of classic-pirates.com?! Ignore if you ment someone else.
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| July 25, 2011, 8:35 pm
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I suppose the HMS surprise is a popular ship to build.
Is there a connection with the movie "Master and Commander" ?
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| July 26, 2011, 4:09 am
Quoting Sebeus I
I suppose the HMS surprise is a popular ship to build.
Is there a connection with the movie "Master and Commander" ?


Yes, and some novels of a Patrick O´brian.
The ship used in "Master and Commander" is actually the modified replica of a Revolutionary war frigate "Rose" and therefore not the one I made.
I chose The Surprise/Unité because it was the tall-ship I could find the most accurate information about.
This includes a ship plan, apparently originating from the Plymouth yards.
Pictures of the JoTiKa model(very detailed).
Background info from the Wikipedia, JoTiKa and Bruce Trinque websites.
And a lot of pictures from modelship builders and paintings.


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| July 26, 2011, 10:26 am
I started working on a reconstruction of HMS Victory.

Ok, so it is a kind of an insane project, mainly because the ship used to have 104 guns, 7 decks and around 850 sailors!!! I will not try to place that number of guns nor 7 decks, of course, but it will be my first attempt at a ship that huge.

www.hms-victory.com is a very nice site, you can explore everything on the ship, mainly interiors and guns, with great detail, but also ringing, masts and more.
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| July 28, 2011, 4:24 am
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Aha, the last surviving ship-of-the-line isn't she ?
quite the challenge I think,
these kind of warships are challenging in general, needs compact constructions.
I'm looking forward to it.
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| July 29, 2011, 1:20 pm
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Hey Sebeus, I heard you're working on 8 ships right now, what kind are they?
p.s. I just read your galleon description and you were right, the Icarus is a galleon
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| August 10, 2011, 10:01 am
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Mainly brigs but I'm running short on masts to support them all so some of them will probably be one masted ships, like a square rigged sloop or a cog. I'm also working on a small schooner with costum hull.
And ofcourse my big ships the Black Pearl (needs restauration) and the Flying Dutchman.

It's hard to decide which one to finish first because that will also be the first one to be destroyed in order to finish the rest :S

And that's not even all, I'm working on a new technique for smooth well-shaped ships but because I don't have enough good parts I'm building a sinking ship :P
and I still need to post my island o_o
what a chaos
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| August 12, 2011, 8:20 am
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I am working on some sort of trading ship at the moment. It has no cannons and I think it will have 2 masts. It has a red custom hull and black detailing above deck. it is a medium size ship, but I'm afraid it is too low to the water and that the colors will look weird. if it doesn't turn out well I won't post it, hopefully it will turn out well though.
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| August 13, 2011, 5:03 pm
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Even if it doesn't turn out well you can always post it so you can see what other people think about it, evaluate and improve if you know what I mean.
Either way, I'm looking forward to it, lego trading ships are not very common, most people build battleships :P
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| August 14, 2011, 8:10 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
Even if it doesn't turn out well you can always post it so you can see what other people think about it, evaluate and improve if you know what I mean.
Either way, I'm looking forward to it, lego trading ships are not very common, most people build battleships :P


Well, it is finished now, and it didn't turn out as bad as I thought it would. Hopefully MOCpages will let people start uploading soon!
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| August 15, 2011, 9:14 am
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Yeah, you could use brickshelf to upload pictures and write some html to make them appear on mocpages but it's not possible to include a main picture that way unfortunatly.
It used to be possible though
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| August 15, 2011, 10:23 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
Yeah, you could use brickshelf to upload pictures and write some html to make them appear on mocpages but it's not possible to include a main picture that way unfortunatly.
It used to be possible though


I just tried uploading pictures and it let me upload but when it asked me which one I wanted as the main picture they were all blank with the little question mark in the center :( Also I can't upload with brickshelf because I don't know any html, so I guess I'll just have to wait a little longer to put my ship on.
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| August 15, 2011, 10:43 am
Just a few days ago, I dismantled my HMS Majestic, since it was using way too many pieces, and I haven't been able to build any other ships since. So recently, I've started building a new ship, HMS Swift. It will be a fast, heavily armed galleon that will carry 8 cannons, including bow and stern chasers. It will be an oppement for my skull eye schooner. I might even upload a sea battle with the two ships
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| August 20, 2011, 5:50 pm
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I'm looking forward to it, there's still a problem with pictures on mocpages so I'm gonna wait a while with uploading my ships
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| August 22, 2011, 3:04 am
It takes some time before i post it but i have one ship ready- it is classic pirate galleon again- i tried a bit different colorscheme and new SNOT-deck technique- i'm quite happy with results....
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| August 22, 2011, 3:40 am
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:P
galleons are the coolest to build I suppose :)

btw, I just realized that mocpages' picture problem isn't the only thing holding me back from posting, half of my house is gone, (we're building new kitchen and veranda.
Thing is the place I used to make pictures doesn't excist anymore :p
gonna have to find a temporarely sollution for that :S
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| August 22, 2011, 5:43 am
Quoting Sebeus I
:P
galleons are the coolest to build I suppose :)

btw, I just realized that mocpages' picture problem isn't the only thing holding me back from posting, half of my house is gone, (we're building new kitchen and veranda.
Thing is the place I used to make pictures doesn't excist anymore :p
gonna have to find a temporarely sollution for that :S


I see: I took my caravel's photos today and couldn't make them appear here :( I will have to wait a while

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| August 28, 2011, 11:00 am
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I've taken pictures of my ship but later the day I made a nice modification so i'll have to take new pics :P
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| August 28, 2011, 3:37 pm
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I am working on a model of the junk ship hai peng from potc at worlds end. Right now I have the deck and the hull done I just need to put masts and some detail on it. I am trying to make it as close to the movie as possible which is hard since I can't find many great pictures of it. I probably just have to end up watching the 3rd potc again.
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| August 28, 2011, 3:46 pm
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Never mind, my ship isn't actually going to be the hai peng because I accidentally made it too short so instead of having 3 masts it has 2. I still think it ended up cool, but it is no longer accurate to the movie :(
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| August 29, 2011, 9:09 am
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My flying dutchman is coming along nicely, I'm hoping to finish it and next week.
When posted I'm gonna demolish it and build a new one, I'll buy additional bricks for that.

There's an issue however, as you probably understand the flying dutchman interior scenes from the movie weren't taken in the real ship, seperate decors/ sets were used for that.
It makes sense but it also resulted in certain aspects of the ship not matching certain interior scenes,
you'll need to be a freak like me to see that though.
Either way basically the entrance to the captain's quarters is located on two different decks.
You can see in the movie that the Capt. quarters only has one entrance (Will entering to steal the key)
so it can be on both decks.

On my prototype I made the entrance on the high deck (though I left out a small section)
However according to the interior scene of the Capt; Quarters it is located on a lower deck which is strange because the exterior scenes kind of imply that the entrance is on the high deck
(remember Will challenging Jones for the dice game, Jones comes from the high deck after he was playing thr organ)

Either way, should I be accurate to the real ship or should I base my design on the interior scenes ?
it's a dilemma
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| September 1, 2011, 7:43 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
My flying dutchman is coming along nicely, I'm hoping to finish it and next week.
When posted I'm gonna demolish it and build a new one, I'll buy additional bricks for that.

There's an issue however, as you probably understand the flying dutchman interior scenes from the movie weren't taken in the real ship, seperate decors/ sets were used for that.
It makes sense but it also resulted in certain aspects of the ship not matching certain interior scenes,
you'll need to be a freak like me to see that though.
Either way basically the entrance to the captain's quarters is located on two different decks.
You can see in the movie that the Capt. quarters only has one entrance (Will entering to steal the key)
so it can be on both decks.

On my prototype I made the entrance on the high deck (though I left out a small section)
However according to the interior scene of the Capt; Quarters it is located on a lower deck which is strange because the exterior scenes kind of imply that the entrance is on the high deck
(remember Will challenging Jones for the dice game, Jones comes from the high deck after he was playing thr organ)

Either way, should I be accurate to the real ship or should I base my design on the interior scenes ?
it's a dilemma

In the scene were jones comes down from the high deck after playing the organ, he could have just come out the cabin and went up there and they just didn't show it. In some movies they skip small scenes like that because they are insignificant to the plot. For example, if they did show jones leaving the cabin and going up to the high deck, people would watch it and say "wait, I don't get it." because it doesn't add to the story it all. I personally think you should be accurate to the real ship. Maybe you could find a blueprint of it or something. Anyway, I am looking forward to it.

p.s. I may be a bit inactive when it comes to ship building for a while because of the MocOlympics.
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| September 1, 2011, 8:11 am
Quoting Ben King
In the scene were jones comes down from the high deck after playing the organ, he could have just come out the cabin and went up there and they just didn't show it. In some movies they skip small scenes like that because they are insignificant to the plot. For example, if they did show jones leaving the cabin and going up to the high deck, people would watch it and say "wait, I don't get it." because it doesn't add to the story it all. I personally think you should be accurate to the real ship. Maybe you could find a blueprint of it or something. Anyway, I am looking forward to it.

p.s. I may be a bit inactive when it comes to ship building for a while because of the MocOlympics.


(I just love BIG quotes xD)

The question is: how many times did you both watched the film? :P

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| September 1, 2011, 3:16 pm
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Quoting Frank Brick Wright

(I just love BIG quotes xD)

The question is: how many times did you both watched the film? :P

2 times, what about you?
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| September 1, 2011, 3:47 pm
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I watched it countless times, both the first and second 10 times at least, I'm sure it is more (I have those on DVD)
and particulary the second I watched seperate chapters to study the Flying Dutchman.
I'd like to have the third as well, so I might spot a small detail I hadn't seen earlier and include it in my work.
...
Yes, I am a freak :p
but a happy freak :)
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| September 2, 2011, 8:26 am
Quoting Sebeus I
I watched it countless times, both the first and second 10 times at least, I'm sure it is more (I have those on DVD)
and particulary the second I watched seperate chapters to study the Flying Dutchman.
I'd like to have the third as well, so I might spot a small detail I hadn't seen earlier and include it in my work.
...
Yes, I am a freak :p
but a happy freak :)


Thats all that counts :D
I have all 3 in dvd i guess i watched around 2 times each but I did it for the movie, not the ships :P I don't know the number of guns of the Black Pearl or the Flying Belgianman.
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| September 2, 2011, 2:08 pm
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haha, :p
the pearl has 32 cannons, 18 on the gun deck and 14 on the upper deck

the Flying dutchman has 54, not counting its chasers
20 on the first gun deck,
18 on the second gun deck
and 16 on the upper decks

Let's hope the flying Belgianman will be able to hold as much guns :P

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| September 2, 2011, 2:46 pm
Looking forward to see it! After all the crew speaks dutch, thats all that counts ;)
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| September 2, 2011, 5:33 pm
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http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5166227
The stern so far (a bit silly I know :P)

it's actually funny, there's no link to Dutch in POTC, maybe davy jonezah accent :P
also the tale is completely different, but I do like the story in POTC, the Dutchman bringing lost souls at sea to the "other side"
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| September 3, 2011, 6:53 am
Wow quite epic! I think it's almost perfect, perhaps you should just place one or too green plant elements, to give the final touch of total decay as in the movie ;)

Yes the tale is nice, I like it too.
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| September 3, 2011, 8:00 am
This MOCPages guys... Have you seen the Moc of the day today? No comments...

:P
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| September 6, 2011, 2:19 am
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I once got my Flying dutchman on the homepage, that was awesome, just my creation I wanted most to get MOTD :p
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| September 6, 2011, 9:00 am
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i did notice that aswell GRATZ with moc of the day once again, hehe, and sebeus, i like your new stern at you FD /flying ducthman) i havent seen that technic before, its really cool, im really concitering to make some improvements at my mermaids trident, (and i ´did buy the QAR now, so now it haves the triangle sail in the front, and the grim reaper also had some minor improvements, but the mermaids trident only needs the.....things.... at its sides so it dosent look flat, and the grim reaper has to be longer and wider, (wicth will be really diffycult for then i have to make my own hull.
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| September 6, 2011, 9:26 am
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You have the QAR now ? wow, in combination with those extra sails you could have one awesome ship :P

About sails, I found this topic in Classic Pirates.com
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10076
you can find the old sails there and print them :P
I'm gonna try that sometime
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| September 7, 2011, 4:15 am
Quoting Sebeus I
You have the QAR now ? wow, in combination with those extra sails you could have one awesome ship :P

About sails, I found this topic in Classic Pirates.com
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10076
you can find the old sails there and print them :P
I'm gonna try that sometime


What's the problem of making custom sails? Don't tell me you guys are purists!

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| September 7, 2011, 5:03 am
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costum sails aren't much of a problem to me (I made the sails of my FD and Black Pearl myself)
It might just be nostalgy of just plain old lazyness :P
when you make a ship with multiple of the same sails it's easy when the proportions are already correct and I love the paterns on them ofcourse.
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| September 7, 2011, 5:11 am
Yes having the right dimensions helps a lot, I have to make a lot of attempts per sail. The patterns are really cool but I'm more a fan of white sails, for they are accurate. Also I think my sails in my carrack turned out pretty good with the red crosses printed. http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=281526&id=/user_images/66197/1311502108m

At last I'll post here (when MocPages is up again) my caravel. The main sail is so big that I had to buy some A3 sheets to do it :P You can't make caravels with lego sails, nor the rear sails like in my Brig, so making our own helps turning your ships unique ;)
http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=279813&id=/user_images/66197/1310502161m
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| September 7, 2011, 6:40 am
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i did recently buy some materials to make my own sails of, tisue i think its called.... but that i found does reminds alot like lego's sails, exept from this is alittle thicker (1 or 2 mm) but i hate to make my own sails, i personly thinks its a pain in the old pirate butt, to make it fit with the ´holes and the pins they have to fit in, and where they shall be placed, thats what i hate the most, but anyways i bought 1 meter white and 1 meter black tisue....stuff.....sail material...
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| September 7, 2011, 7:41 am
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Btw thanks for the link sebeus, i can really use that sometime, for the old sails are extremely expensive at bricklink, they are made of tisue...i mean cloth, thats what it is called =)
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| September 7, 2011, 7:50 am
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yeah, I was hoping the new sails (from the QAR) would be of the same material as the old sails, too bad though they are nice as well


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| September 7, 2011, 11:54 am
Looks I was able to post my ship today (at last)! :D

Take a look please, is the best caravel here on MOCPages (and the only ship we really may call "caravel")
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| September 7, 2011, 12:59 pm
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well frank if you are expecting a new ship from me i wont disapoint you, i can easily re-new-build the mermaids trident, and make the improvements, my computer had a crash anyways so i got all weekend to do it, even so i got lot of projects going i can see that i have to upload some new ships soon, hehe.
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| September 8, 2011, 1:49 pm
Quoting morthen poulsen
well frank if you are expecting a new ship from me i wont disapoint you, i can easily re-new-build the mermaids trident, and make the improvements, my computer had a crash anyways so i got all weekend to do it, even so i got lot of projects going i can see that i have to upload some new ships soon, hehe.


That's good! I'm always interested in seeing new ships, to analyze their building techniques. I'm now developing an LDD project so that I can have an idea of how many parts I need for my frigate.

I found recently two main techniques (one by myself, the other through seeing other MOCs, mainly at Eurobricks) that I would like to try: the use of "slope brick 75, 2x3" to make the hull between the guns and also the use of those bricks 1x2 with the mobile part in the top (don't know their name).

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| September 8, 2011, 1:57 pm
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spin bricks XD
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| September 8, 2011, 2:02 pm
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"Captain Greenhair" 's frigates are inspiring, the technique needs a lot of parts but the result is very nice,
I made 'Din's Fire' like that
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/266323


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| September 9, 2011, 7:40 am
Quoting Sebeus I
"Captain Greenhair" 's frigates are inspiring, the technique needs a lot of parts but the result is very nice,
I made 'Din's Fire' like that
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/266323



I think your Din's Fire is pretty good, and even though I'm not very familiar with CGH frigates, I think there is an easier way to have the effect you have obtained in Din's. I'm always fascinated by the ringing and sails, and in Eurobricks you find some FANTASTIC ships.

I saw recently some sails which could move, and I intend to find out how that works, cause I'm not sure. Some of my favorites:

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47242&st=0

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51308

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| September 9, 2011, 8:09 am
I´m currently in the final stages designing a HMS Portland class 4th rater, she´s based primarily on the British ship HMS Leopard which was launched in 1790. Her armament is as follows.
• Upper deck: 22 x 12-pounder guns
• Lower deck: 22 x 24-pounder guns
• Quarter deck: 4 x 6-pounder guns
• Forecastle: 2 x 6-pounder guns

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| November 24, 2011, 4:10 pm
I am currently working on my flagship Blade Raptor now, can't remember how many cannons its gonna have and what the sailplan is gonna be, but it will have a custom hull.
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| November 26, 2011, 3:48 pm
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i broke down my mermaids trident, and is re-designing the hull, i will soon post some W.I.P pics
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| December 1, 2011, 5:49 pm
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Well, its been quite a while since I've done a ship, but I'm about to start one. I have no idea what type but I need to get some hulls and various ship pieces first. So, expect a ship coming from me in the near future :)
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| December 18, 2011, 3:27 pm
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Well, it been quite a while since I done any pirate mocs... I can guarantee one sometime this spring, but I've got so many other ideas that it may be a bit longer. For the mean time, I may try to build a small fishing boat kind of like the ones Sebeus built for that contest just so I can get back into the shipbuilding feel/mood.
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| February 3, 2012, 6:35 am
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Quoting Ben King
Well, it been quite a while since I done any pirate mocs... I can guarantee one sometime this spring, but I've got so many other ideas that it may be a bit longer. For the mean time, I may try to build a small fishing boat kind of like the ones Sebeus built for that contest just so I can get back into the shipbuilding feel/mood.


Hope to see something soon, building small boats is fun and you can do it in one day :P
so for that contest In which you get only one week it's perfect;

On another note, because of my recent ships being on costum hulls I have quite a few unused prefab hull parts lying around,
3 small one and 2 big sets (with a shortage of midsections though)
It kind of makes me sad that such great pieces are unused :'

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| February 3, 2012, 9:34 am
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yea i know what you mean i got some of old prefab hulls aswell, 3 bows 4 sterns and 6 mid sections, lying around, but i will modify my grim reaper for seriously today, wish me luck,
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| February 4, 2012, 7:08 am
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here is a link to my Grim Reapers current state, http://www.flickr.com/photos/morthen/sets/72157629168580351/
i will try to make it longer by 1 or 2 mid sections,

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| February 4, 2012, 7:20 am
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Atleast It looks still sail-able, my ship doesn't look like much anymore;
first I took away front and stern:
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/12746/1327831320m
then added them to a new hull;
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=266323&id=/user_images/12746/1327761655m
(btw, I uploaded that pic on the origan ships page because Brickshelf was out a few days)

The good news is that I managed to add cabin lights and a capstan-anchor connection;
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=266323&id=/user_images/12746/1327762051m
It still looks like a mess anyway :P
Be prepared when you start the operation, good luck.
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| February 4, 2012, 2:37 pm
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i did prepare for it, and it wokrked, i did extend it with 2 mid sections and it looks pretty good, but, now i got a new problem, because of the increased size, now it looks to black, so the plan is to order some trans red bricks, and then make so many of the details as i can in tranparent red, and your dins fire is quite good looking after the current conditions, good luck aswell =)
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| February 4, 2012, 4:24 pm
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My Grim Reaper is nearly complete, i only need the last parts from BL, to make some creepy details, but it turned out way better than expected, i did actualy demolish the whole thing, (almost) so 90% is completely new,
and it looks even more creepy and way more heavy than before, i will upload some WIP shots tomorrow
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| February 18, 2012, 10:46 am
I am currently turning one of my LDD designs in to a real build
The LDD file is here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/292321
And the wip is here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/306795
and here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309852
There is a bunch of details on these pages about the build, but to sum up:
It is a replica of the first Danish ship with copper sheathed hull, the Brig HDMS Lougen.
Her armament consists of 18x 18 pdr shortguns, and 2x 6 pdr chasers (the model has 4 to show all possible placements of chasers)
The custom hull has a length of 87 cm.
She was used to protect Danish merchant ships against primarily the British navy/pirates.

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| February 18, 2012, 11:19 am
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Quoting Anders T
I am currently turning one of my LDD designs in to a real build
The LDD file is here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/292321
And the wip is here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/306795
and here
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309852
There is a bunch of details on these pages about the build, but to sum up:
It is a replica of the first Danish ship with copper sheathed hull, the Brig HDMS Lougen.
Her armament consists of 18x 18 pdr shortguns, and 2x 6 pdr chasers (the model has 4 to show all possible placements of chasers)
The custom hull has a length of 87 cm.
She was used to protect Danish merchant ships against primarily the British navy/pirates.

GOOOOO Danish
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| February 19, 2012, 3:44 pm
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I'm still fighting the rigging on my Flying Dutchman :S
it's a real pain, like they say, the last bits are the most problematic :P
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| February 20, 2012, 6:58 am
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i got the exact same problem, with the rigging, (and its true, that its the last small details that take most of the time) the infra stcture is easy, but its those small final details, that makes all the effort wort it
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| February 20, 2012, 11:44 am
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I'm so excited to see your FD, Sebeus. It has an interior, right?
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| April 3, 2012, 7:12 am
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Yes but frankly there isn't very much to see :P
there's the captain's quarters but the rest are just staircases and cannons actually.
I can't wait for Brickmania (the lego event) and see how people react :)
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| April 3, 2012, 1:57 pm
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hey sebeus, this would properly fit in the genral conversation, but ive just been there, so now i will say it here, there is a legofan weekend here in dk at september, where fans from around the globe shows up with there mocs, (its lego by the way who is orginizeing it)

here's the link: http://www.fanweekend.dk/

then you can signup, and in the signup you can signup for a cottage, (the cost is around 15 Euro, for the weekend, but you can read about all that in the link,

for if you do signup, how does,
The Flying Dutchman VS The Grim Reaper

sounds to you? hehe
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| April 4, 2012, 9:02 am
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Quoting Morthen P
hey sebeus, this would properly fit in the genral conversation, but ive just been there, so now i will say it here, there is a legofan weekend here in dk at september, where fans from around the globe shows up with there mocs, (its lego by the way who is orginizeing it)

here's the link: http://www.fanweekend.dk/

then you can signup, and in the signup you can signup for a cottage, (the cost is around 15 Euro, for the weekend, but you can read about all that in the link,

for if you do signup, how does,
The Flying Dutchman VS The Grim Reaper

sounds to you? hehe


Sounds very interesting but Denmark is far away, it would not be easy getting there (I'm not allowed to drive outside Belgium yet), especially considering that the Flying Dutchman is a pain to transport (it's big and cannot be split into seperate sections).
But I see there's plenty of time to think about it :)
A show off between our ships would certainly be cool :D
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| April 4, 2012, 7:04 pm
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Well mates, I'm going to start on a project that is going to either be epic or a complete fail. The Black Pearl, but no ordinary Pearl, one that has a custom hull, nice shape (Like Sebeus' FD), and as accurate as possible to the original. Also I hope to have detailed interiors. I have no idea how long it will take, or when I'll start, but I will be doing it sometime.
Sebeus, do you have any WIP pictures of the FD I can see? I need to do a bit of research on custom hulls and possibly some tests before actually starting on the task.
So, wish me luck!
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| April 4, 2012, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I

Sounds very interesting but Denmark is far away, it would not be easy getting there (I'm not allowed to drive outside Belgium yet), especially considering that the Flying Dutchman is a pain to transport (it's big and cannot be split into seperate sections).
But I see there's plenty of time to think about it :)
A show off between our ships would certainly be cool :D

i see, but i didnt know that belgians where only permitted to drive in there own contry, i got a driverslicense 8 days ago and i can drive anywhere in the world i want, but how do you get permision to drive outside of belgian?
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| April 5, 2012, 4:04 am
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Quoting Ben King
Well mates, I'm going to start on a project that is going to either be epic or a complete fail. The Black Pearl, but no ordinary Pearl, one that has a custom hull, nice shape (Like Sebeus' FD), and as accurate as possible to the original. Also I hope to have detailed interiors. I have no idea how long it will take, or when I'll start, but I will be doing it sometime.
Sebeus, do you have any WIP pictures of the FD I can see? I need to do a bit of research on custom hulls and possibly some tests before actually starting on the task.
So, wish me luck!


You should definitely look for the Black Pearl plan,
http://www.pcwargaming.com/myspace/pirates/BlackPearlSchematic.jpg
I printed it (the FD one I mean) and it was almost all the time next to my build.
As for my WIP, here's a link to my brickshelf folder
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=484653
It holds all pictures I made between start and finishing of the Flying Dutchman.
An interior sketch might also come in handy,
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5275774
this is mine, luckely the Black Pearls interior is easier (although it's hard to define what's under the forecastle)
I started by using basic bricks to form the base (at the waterline), I chose a scale (from the drawing: 2mm = 1stud more or less, it's impossible to do this exactly right but it helps you on the way)
The way I see it the black pearl will be easier at some points but also a lot more difficult at other points, I think especially the whole stern will be very difficult so I wish you the best of luck, don't hesitate for further questions ;)

Quoting Morthen P
i see, but i didnt know that belgians where only permitted to drive in there own contry, i got a driverslicense 8 days ago and i can drive anywhere in the world i want, but how do you get permision to drive outside of belgian?


Well, that's because I don't actually have my real drivers license yet, I have yet to do the practical exam (but I can't park very good yet :S )
driving such a distance on my own is quite a big step too :P
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| April 5, 2012, 6:05 am
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Sebeus, at your flickr account, you have posted this http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebeus/6781981698/in/photostream

how did you do it? how did you transfer the rotation from the main axel to the cannon platforms? i simple cant figure it out
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| April 5, 2012, 6:14 am
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Quoting Sebeus I

You should definitely look for the Black Pearl plan,
http://www.pcwargaming.com/myspace/pirates/BlackPearlSchematic.jpg
I printed it (the FD one I mean) and it was almost all the time next to my build.
As for my WIP, here's a link to my brickshelf folder
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=484653
It holds all pictures I made between start and finishing of the Flying Dutchman.
An interior sketch might also come in handy,
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5275774
this is mine, luckely the Black Pearls interior is easier (although it's hard to define what's under the forecastle)
I started by using basic bricks to form the base (at the waterline), I chose a scale (from the drawing: 2mm = 1stud more or less, it's impossible to do this exactly right but it helps you on the way)
The way I see it the black pearl will be easier at some points but also a lot more difficult at other points, I think especially the whole stern will be very difficult so I wish you the best of luck, don't hesitate for further questions ;)

Quoting Morthen P
i see, but i didnt know that belgians where only permitted to drive in there own contry, i got a driverslicense 8 days ago and i can drive anywhere in the world i want, but how do you get permision to drive outside of belgian?


Well, that's because I don't actually have my real drivers license yet, I have yet to do the practical exam (but I can't park very good yet :S )
driving such a distance on my own is quite a big step too :P

well you got about six months to do so =)
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| April 5, 2012, 6:17 am
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Quoting Morthen P
Sebeus, at your flickr account, you have posted this http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebeus/6781981698/in/photostream

how did you do it? how did you transfer the rotation from the main axel to the cannon platforms? i simple cant figure it out

Aha, it's difficult to explain so I might better take another picture
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5431042
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5431043

It's some kind of crankshaft, just like a combustion engine, except the pistons are cannons :P
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| April 5, 2012, 6:30 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
Aha, it's difficult to explain so I might better take another picture
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5431042
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5431043


It's some kind of crankshaft, just like a combustion engine, except the pistons are cannons :P

thanks, because ive for long thought about makeing something like that, and if i can borrow maybe modifying your technic it would be great
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| April 5, 2012, 6:32 am
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is it supposed to say when i click at your links: this file is not yet puplic?
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| April 5, 2012, 6:33 am
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Quoting Morthen P
is it supposed to say when i click at your links: this file is not yet puplic?

Darn, that brickshelf, it takes some time before stuff gets visible (I just uploaded those two pics)
maybe this works:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sebeus/Pirateship/dsc06122.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sebeus/Pirateship/dsc06123.jpg

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| April 5, 2012, 6:36 am
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the trcky thing that i cant figure, is i can see a red part at the main axle near the gears, in the bottom of the ship, but i cant figure if anything is attached to it, or what, for there is something attached to it, how does it get past the main axle when it rotates 360 degrees
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| April 5, 2012, 6:37 am
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now it did work thanks =) now i can maybe do it
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| April 5, 2012, 6:39 am
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those two small red technic parts from the connection between the main axle ( which is not a complete axle, it's like a crancshaft) and the port cannon sled arm
(if that makes sense :S )
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| April 5, 2012, 6:43 am
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alot of sense, but i wrote that previously comment about 5 sec before you did post the new pics =)
but i just couldnt figure it out at the vedeo that you made, its to dark, btw, what camera are you useing?
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| April 5, 2012, 6:47 am
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Quoting Morthen P
alot of sense, but i wrote that previously comment about 5 sec before you did post the new pics =)
but i just couldnt figure it out at the vedeo that you made, its to dark, btw, what camera are you useing?

a "SONY DSC-T5 cyber-shot"
that's what it sais :P I also use it to take pictures but lately all of my movies seem to fail because they are too dark, I don't get it, I film at bright daylight and still it appears very dark, it's depressing really, I wanted to make a nice video of my flying dutchman but it just doesn't work out...

As for the IR broadside cannons, my plan is to make a construction that :
1: opens cannon port hatches
2: extends cannons
3: Fires cannons
but there's still a lot of work to be done and there's no one that has done it before so I don't have any reference material.
I'd love to see what you make out of it,
just extending cannons is nice too
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| April 5, 2012, 7:24 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
a "SONY DSC-T5 cyber-shot"
that's what it sais :P I also use it to take pictures but lately all of my movies seem to fail because they are too dark, I don't get it, I film at bright daylight and still it appears very dark, it's depressing really, I wanted to make a nice video of my flying dutchman but it just doesn't work out...

As for the IR broadside cannons, my plan is to make a construction that :
1: opens cannon port hatches
2: extends cannons
3: Fires cannons
but there's still a lot of work to be done and there's no one that has done it before so I don't have any reference material.
I'd love to see what you make out of it,
just extending cannons is nice too


if i remember right, you have already made a hatch opening system,
but when i was at the lego exibition thing, someone told me a technic where you should put light into the cannons, by removeing the bottom of the cannon tube, someone did it at this amazingly fort, where he had attached a smoke machine to two cannons, and he had it with him to lego world 2012 in dk, but unfortunatly the smoke machine broke down 10 before the ordience arrived at lego world the first day, but anyways the idea was there, so im thinking about doing something simulary, for then it would look like they are fireing, with smoke and light, but its really really complecated ofcourse, but its worth a try, but first i will make the cannons extend first, and then i will try to make aoutomatic hatches,
its amazing that lego can be this complecated and advanced but its really fun though
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| April 5, 2012, 8:32 am
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Sebeus, the blueprint of the pearl is wonderful, but do you know of any pictures of it were you can zoom in more? Because the blueprint has all the dimensions, but they are too small to read.
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| April 5, 2012, 10:06 am
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no, this is the biggest I found, I couldn't read any on the Dutchmans' plan, I just measured it with ruler.
A good way for reference is the distance between cannon ports,
4 studs between cannon ports could do for the Pearl, or maybe 5
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| April 5, 2012, 10:22 am
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Quoting Sebeus I
no, this is the biggest I found, I couldn't read any on the Dutchmans' plan, I just measured it with ruler.
A good way for reference is the distance between cannon ports,
4 studs between cannon ports could do for the Pearl, or maybe 5

Alright, thanks!
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| April 5, 2012, 10:26 am
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Alright, I've got a few questions.
1. Did you use this piece http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=11&itemID=838 to do all of the slanted parts? If not what did you use?
2. The ship gets bigger near the center like in this picture http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=317195&id=/user_images/12746/1333299454m
It looks like it gets bigger at intervals of less than one stud, what are the intervals and how did you do that?
Thats all for now.
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| April 5, 2012, 12:04 pm
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Quoting Ben King
Alright, I've got a few questions.
1. Did you use this piece http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=11&itemID=838 to do all of the slanted parts? If not what did you use?
2. The ship gets bigger near the center like in this picture http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=317195&id=/user_images/12746/1333299454m
It looks like it gets bigger at intervals of less than one stud, what are the intervals and how did you do that?
Thats all for now.


1. yes that's the part, but you can use other hinge plates as well,
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=30622
this page describes the basics

2. the intervals are 1/2 studs, you can do that by using jumpers (http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?q=jumper)
or what I did (because I don't have a lot of jumpers); connecting technic bricks; http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3701 and http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=32000

Just for the record, the Black Pearl has a different shape than the Flying Dutchman (the dutchman's widest section is closer to the prow than the black pearls')

Almost forgot; to get a nice closed deck considering the 1/2 offsets these parts will be useful as well
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=32028

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| April 5, 2012, 12:38 pm
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when i did imagine how you did it i would have chosen som clip bricks with hinges, like this

http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=11&itemID=17024
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| April 5, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Those are also very useful, I kind of took the sollution I had most parts for.
You know, lots of people say NPU on the use of minifig legs on my FD but actually the main reason I used those was because they were cheaper than those hinge bricks :P (atleast they were in the bricklinkstore I bought them)

Anyway, there is a big advantage in those hinge bricks compared to hinge plates, it's a lot easier to lay the deck and much more flexible in the angle.
So Ben, for your Black Pearl they could be a better choice then hinge plates, black hinge bricks are quite common, ofcourse you'll need a lot.
You could ofcourse combine different methods
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| April 5, 2012, 5:26 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
Those are also very useful, I kind of took the sollution I had most parts for.
You know, lots of people say NPU on the use of minifig legs on my FD but actually the main reason I used those was because they were cheaper than those hinge bricks :P (atleast they were in the bricklinkstore I bought them)

Anyway, there is a big advantage in those hinge bricks compared to hinge plates, it's a lot easier to lay the deck and much more flexible in the angle.
So Ben, for your Black Pearl they could be a better choice then hinge plates, black hinge bricks are quite common, ofcourse you'll need a lot.
You could ofcourse combine different methods

I think I'll go with the hinge bricks. They are probably less expensive anyway.
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| April 6, 2012, 8:35 am
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i think it cost around the same, but the technic i used for the grim reaper is a brick skeleton beneith the plates with alot and lots of them hinge bricks at it, and they are ofcourse all 100% black, (even so you cant see em very well) everything that is only for structure on that ship is 100% black, it was mostly becasue i wanted to make it so black as it could get hehe, but sebeus NPU is ??
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| April 6, 2012, 9:25 am
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NPU means "Nice Part Usage" it's a term often used at Flickr, they just say it when you use a part in an unusual way
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| April 6, 2012, 10:35 am
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Do you think it would be a better idea to do a waterline of full version of the Pearl? I am think waterline because it would probably be easier, less pieces, and also more balanced. But at the same time, it would be cool to build the whole pearl... of course that would mean a lot more pieces and a lot more interior decorating... But then if it turns out successfully it would be like "The One Pearl", kind of like how your FD is the best one out there. No one could really top it... I'll have to think about this...
Thanks for making me a MOD :D It is much appreciated!
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| April 6, 2012, 11:33 am
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Waterline is easier and cheaper (because you don't need as much parts) it's also great for a diorama because it can be placed directly on a blue surface.
However, a full model has its advantages as well,
First of all, about balance, I had a hard time trying to make my FD lift-able, making a waterline model steady is not an easy task, a complete model allows you to concentrate the weight at the keel which makes it a lot easier to carry it around. You can forget about the lowest deck though, you'll need that space to make a solid steady construction able to carry the whole ship;
There are a lot of things I would do differently if I could start over again, builing the Dutchman.
For a full model you'll have to make stands to hold it as well but that's just a detail really.
I also noticed on my FD that it only looks good when it stands on a flat surface, when I carry it around it looks terrible, because of it being incomplete.

Overall, it's a dilemma, hard to choose wether to build a full or waterline model.
I thought that I could always make an "underside" later but now I see that it isn't so evident.
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| April 6, 2012, 12:03 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
There are a lot of things I would do differently if I could start over again, builing the Dutchman.

Such as... I am curious so I don't do the same...
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| April 6, 2012, 5:15 pm
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Quoting Ben King
Quoting Sebeus I
There are a lot of things I would do differently if I could start over again, builing the Dutchman.

Such as... I am curious so I don't do the same...


Well, the base is a mess,
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5197097
you should definitely rebuild the base a few times untill you are certain that you have a good solid steady construction.
My mistake is that I took the first one I made and continued building on top of it. I would also made the forecastle different, as it is now it's too wide but I only noticed that when I added the "upper jaw" on the prow, by that time my triple cannons were fully installed and everything was firmly connected :S

The final rsult looks great but the flaws are very visible to me
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| April 6, 2012, 7:01 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I

Well, the base is a mess,
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5197097
you should definitely rebuild the base a few times untill you are certain that you have a good solid steady construction.
My mistake is that I took the first one I made and continued building on top of it. I would also made the forecastle different, as it is now it's too wide but I only noticed that when I added the "upper jaw" on the prow, by that time my triple cannons were fully installed and everything was firmly connected :S

The final rsult looks great but the flaws are very visible to me

Thanks, I'll be sure to try multiple designs before keeping one. If I have enough pieces, I'll try to build the full hull. I may need some BL orders, never mind I will need some BL orders. I need hinges and probably some slopes for the hull. Got any good techniques for the shape of a full hull? I've seen Anders T's brick built hulls, but the pearl isn't as big as those ships he makes. Also I'll be using the same technique you used for the sides of the FD, so I'll have to find a technique that will work with it.
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| April 7, 2012, 12:02 pm
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Quoting Ben King
Thanks, I'll be sure to try multiple designs before keeping one. If I have enough pieces, I'll try to build the full hull. I may need some BL orders, never mind I will need some BL orders. I need hinges and probably some slopes for the hull. Got any good techniques for the shape of a full hull? I've seen Anders T's brick built hulls, but the pearl isn't as big as those ships he makes. Also I'll be using the same technique you used for the sides of the FD, so I'll have to find a technique that will work with it.


Anders T's hulls would be great for the black pearl, it shouldn't be to hard making a smaller one, a while ago I made a black pearl hull myself
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=494101
It's still lying around here, I haven't done anything with it yet.
A great advantage I noticed about it is that it's very light and very steady when you hold it by the keel.
I think you will probably have to use most of the space in the lower hull to make a solid construction to carry the upper part, if you're working with hinge pieces there.
I started my ship by collecting all the parts I thought I would need in one box, to get a good overview of what I had and what I still needed.
If you're going to make bricklink order(s) be sure that you don't buy parts that you don't need, try to justify every piece you add.
In total I spent €100 on additional parts, a number I mention in the lego community but I hide in the "real" world :P
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| April 7, 2012, 12:18 pm
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you only spend 100euro's at bl orders? ive spend alot more then that
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| April 7, 2012, 12:34 pm
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Quoting Morthen P
you only spend 100euro's at bl orders? ive spend alot more then that

I already had a lot of parts and I planned my orders very carefully,
It would have been a lot more if I wanted to make the port side as well :P
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| April 7, 2012, 1:05 pm
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are you talking about your ship technic or in total ? well i got around 100 kg or so, (mix'ed) but ive still ordred so many bl orders that i dont dare to look at the total =)
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| April 7, 2012, 1:18 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I

Anders T's hulls would be great for the black pearl, it shouldn't be to hard making a smaller one, a while ago I made a black pearl hull myself
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=494101
It's still lying around here, I haven't done anything with it yet.
A great advantage I noticed about it is that it's very light and very steady when you hold it by the keel.
I think you will probably have to use most of the space in the lower hull to make a solid construction to carry the upper part, if you're working with hinge pieces there.
I started my ship by collecting all the parts I thought I would need in one box, to get a good overview of what I had and what I still needed.
If you're going to make bricklink order(s) be sure that you don't buy parts that you don't need, try to justify every piece you add.
In total I spent €100 on additional parts, a number I mention in the lego community but I hide in the "real" world :P

Luckily, I think I have a lot of the pieces I'll need. Not to mention black is a very common color so it is less expensive.
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| April 7, 2012, 1:21 pm
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Did you make that hull to scale? If so, the pearl is smaller than I thought.
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| April 7, 2012, 1:24 pm
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Quoting Ben King
Did you make that hull to scale? If so, the pearl is smaller than I thought.

Don't forget the cabin, which has quite some overhang,
it may not look like it but it's actually pretty close to scale, it should probably be a bit bigger.
the base is wide and relatively short, because of that it may look small, the hull will get more narrow and longer on the upperpart.
It's difficult to define minifigure scale, unfortunatly I never took a picture of the comparison between my FD and Black Pearl (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/270115)
Both ships are designed in minifigure scale and yet my BP was a bit too small compared to my FD,
It was caused by the fact that I took 4 studs between the cannon ports on both ships, it should be a bit more on the pearl and a bit less on the Dutchman but I neglected the small difference because I wanted to work with a round number of studs each time
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| April 7, 2012, 2:03 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
Don't forget the cabin, which has quite some overhang,
it may not look like it but it's actually pretty close to scale, it should probably be a bit bigger.
the base is wide and relatively short, because of that it may look small, the hull will get more narrow and longer on the upperpart.
It's difficult to define minifigure scale, unfortunatly I never took a picture of the comparison between my FD and Black Pearl (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/270115)
Both ships are designed in minifigure scale and yet my BP was a bit too small compared to my FD,
It was caused by the fact that I took 4 studs between the cannon ports on both ships, it should be a bit more on the pearl and a bit less on the Dutchman but I neglected the small difference because I wanted to work with a round number of studs each time

That makes this a little bit easier. I was imagining it a lot bigger.
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| April 7, 2012, 2:21 pm
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Sorry, I wasnt' finished with my comment yet (just had diner)
anyway this results in my Flying Dutchman being a bit to big, distance between cannon ports is a great way to determine scale. In the case of the flying dutchman it wasn't really possible to go for a smaller version because of the galleries proportions but in the case of the Black Pearl it's certainly possible to make a close scale replica.
I'm gonna size the dimensions of a BP with 5 studs between cannon ports , just to get a good idea of how it would compare with my FD (if the pearl turns out bigger it's a bad idea :P )

As for my BP brickbuilt hull, I originally designed it using the same scale as my original BP (which is 4 studs between gun ports)
I wasn't going to use hinge plates (because I used so many on other ships already) but I wanted to try some more slopes, like my 'chiby BP http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=491840 (which was for some reason not posted on mocpages )

Something you might find very interesting ;)
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/306832
this is to this day the best lego Black Pearl in my opinion,
YOU can change that, you see, that version has a very rough brickbuilt hull, you surely can make a smoother hull
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| April 7, 2012, 2:54 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
Something you might find very interesting ;)
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/306832
this is to this day the best lego Black Pearl in my opinion,
YOU can change that, you see, that version has a very rough brickbuilt hull, you surely can make a smoother hull

I just saw that a few minutes ago :) It is indeed a very fine ship. Though, I agree with you, the hull is very rough. As of now, my intention is to build the best BP, which means it will not be a waterline model but a full hull. I just got out all the sloped pieces I have... I will need a BL order :/ But, I think I'll try to design the hull on LDD first, so I don't need to worry about making multiple BL orders.
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| April 7, 2012, 4:12 pm
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well my opnion is that BP hull isnt rough, it looks smooth to me, but thing that ruins it for me is he's color choice, the grey idol and the brown waterline, and the grey pilar things at the cabin, he ruins a perfect ship, and it dosent look like its perfectly minifig scale to me,
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| April 7, 2012, 4:35 pm
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Is there a waterline on the BP? If I remember correctly, there is a scene in the dead mans chest hat shows the BP beached and I think the whole hull is solid black.
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| April 7, 2012, 5:14 pm
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Yes, the color scheme is probably the most difficult aspect of the Black Pearl, the pearl isn't not pure black, it's kind of gray-ish black but there doesn't excist a gray tone in LEGO that blends well with black so most Black Pearls you see are either completely black or a combination of black with dark gray.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111020200645/pirates/images/6/60/Black-pearl.jpg
I suppose Benjamin (builder of that nice pearl) wanted some variation in the color scheme and added those brown lines.
It's a fantastic replica but there isn't a lot of space for minifigures I agree, but I wouldn't say it isn't up to scale.
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| April 7, 2012, 5:23 pm
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i see your point, so it isnt completely incorrect, but still ive just figured out a solution, you see the 2 lines that makes a water line, you should just make that jumper technic, (but with a around a brick's hight in between them)
does it make any sense to you?,
but them brown lines that he made at the PB, dosent fit, but the grey pilar things, i accept,
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| April 7, 2012, 5:44 pm
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that i ment with a solution was to make some lines to break the black sceme, at the sides, (insted of another color type of bricks)
anyhow im in full swing at makeing the automatic cannon system, ive also figured out a technic to open the cannon ports at the same time the cannone slides out, it should work (in theory)

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| April 7, 2012, 5:47 pm
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well if i make a BP (which i eventualy will) then it will be pure black, but with as many variations in the hull as i can, the windows thouh, has to be clear, besides that, 100% black
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| April 7, 2012, 5:51 pm
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Quoting Morthen P
that i ment with a solution was to make some lines to break the black sceme, at the sides, (insted of another color type of bricks)
anyhow im in full swing at makeing the automatic cannon system, ive also figured out a technic to open the cannon ports at the same time the cannone slides out, it should work (in theory)

in theory :P
I'm looking forward to it,
I might just combine the two subjects of conversation, a black pearl with remote controlled cannons :P
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| April 7, 2012, 5:57 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
in theory :P
I'm looking forward to it,
I might just combine the two subjects of conversation, a black pearl with remote controlled cannons :P

I am actually planning on putting a few mechanical or light features in the pearl.
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| April 7, 2012, 5:59 pm
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I think I'll stick with a mostly black hull. I don't want it to turn out like a rainbow warrior :P I think it looks more gray in the sunlight because it reflects some of it and makes it lighter. To change up the colors a bit I think I'll make the deck dark brown tiles. In the movie they look sort of brown but sort of black, but that, along with the lighter color of the hull, may be due to weathering.
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| April 7, 2012, 6:03 pm
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light in the cabin, a must-have :)
As for mechanical features, what did you have in mind ?
I originally wanted a working capstan but considered it practically impossible because the capstan is integrated in the main mast.
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| April 7, 2012, 6:12 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
light in the cabin, a must-have :)
As for mechanical features, what did you have in mind ?
I originally wanted a working capstan but considered it practically impossible because the capstan is integrated in the main mast.

I have some ideas for a working capstan. I'm not sure what else yet, but there will be more.
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| April 7, 2012, 6:22 pm
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If my calculations are correct, not including the cabin overhang, it will be 76 studs long (2ft) and 24 studs wide on the deck at its largest area. Man, his is gonna be one big ship! So much bigger than TLC's BP.
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| April 7, 2012, 6:33 pm
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well ive finely found a store at bricklink that has everything i need, all power functions there is, and the old battary box's and the old 1x4 twin lightning in both black and white, all for a reasonable price, (around 60 euro's i think for a couple of motors ETC,
becasue besides of the pirate ship projects im working on a submarine layout, that needs alot of power (hopely) so i want to make a huge sea floor and then a big sunken pirate wreck in the middle, (and then the divers shall investigate it and so on, (i know its alittle out of topic to tell that)
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| April 7, 2012, 6:33 pm
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Quoting Morthen P
well ive finely found a store at bricklink that has everything i need, all power functions there is, and the old battary box's and the old 1x4 twin lightning in both black and white, all for a reasonable price, (around 60 euro's i think for a couple of motors ETC,
becasue besides of the pirate ship projects im working on a submarine layout, that needs alot of power (hopely) so i want to make a huge sea floor and then a big sunken pirate wreck in the middle, (and then the divers shall investigate it and so on, (i know its alittle out of topic to tell that)

That sounds really neat!
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| April 7, 2012, 6:35 pm
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Sebeus, how did you decide the shape of the bottom of the hull of your custom hull BP? I have been trying to get a good shape by just guessing and looking at the blueprint, is there a more accurate way to do this?
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| April 7, 2012, 8:25 pm
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Actually, I think it is going to be a bit smaller, I realized I enlarged the picture so the proportions were of, I reprinted it and now it makes more sense, now it is about 68 studs long including the overhang. I forgot to make the scale bigger for bigger pictures, it is a good thing I caught that slip up early on or the whole ship would be too big! Just to double check, when you made the FD and used the scale 2mm=1 stud you didn't enlarge the picture from its original size, did you?
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| April 7, 2012, 8:46 pm
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I think I just made the plan fit on a A4 size paper,
68 studs is a good lenght, it's about the same as my costum hull (with has the overhanging part already btw, haven't taken pics yet).
I made my costum hull starting with one side (starboard side in my case)
I tried several combinations of slope bricks untill I had a good shape.
as you can see in the pictures the offset is very small, smaller than 1/2 studs. I accomplished that by using different SNOT parts (brackets and bricks with studs on the side).
Because the sides are SNOT it's probably better to speak about plates instead of studs, the minimum offset is 1/2 plate (=1/5 stud) but it get bigger near the prow and stern.
When I completed one side I determined the bottoms (and alterered the temporarely bottom I used to build that side on)
Guessing from the plan is pretty much what I did

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| April 8, 2012, 1:35 am
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well lets contrinue this conversation in the topic ive just made, about exchance of building technic, cause with the past 3-4 days, we did extend this topic by a ˝ or so hehe, and then it dosent take so long to get to the bottom of the conversation,
(just a suggestion)
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| April 8, 2012, 8:31 am
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Quoting Morthen P
well lets contrinue this conversation in the topic ive just made, about exchance of building technic, cause with the past 3-4 days, we did extend this topic by a ˝ or so hehe, and then it dosent take so long to get to the bottom of the conversation,
(just a suggestion)

Sounds like a plan. I'll write in there from now on.
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| April 8, 2012, 9:11 am
I'm going to build the Nehon Maru soon in connection with a contest that Legobob and I are working on. It should be pretty cool, using techniques from all of my recent builds.
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| April 13, 2012, 5:53 pm
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I got three ships coming up, two of them are already demolished :S
I'm working on something big now, a complete ship featuring full interior.
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| April 30, 2012, 4:22 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
I got three ships coming up, two of them are already demolished :S
I'm working on something big now, a complete ship featuring full interior.

I'm looking forward to it! I been waiting for someone to make an awesome ship with interiors.
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| April 30, 2012, 7:22 pm
Its been a long time since I built anything out of lego. But I am in the process of building a new pirate ship! Since I've dismantled my skull eye schooner, I now have more slooped pieces. This new ship is either gonna be a pirate Brig or a Galleon, and it will be called "The Black Ghost". I'm hopeing to upload it by the end of the week.
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| June 10, 2012, 5:11 pm
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Great, I'll be keeping an eye out
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| June 11, 2012, 7:07 am
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Quoting Griffin .
Guys, I REALLY want to make a ship with the hulls (Not custom) and so I have a set, Brickbeard's Bounty, and I want a side that wants to demolish it and doesn't want to. Should I destroy and make a new ship, or keep it that way?

everything you can make, is diffently better than the original, i had two of them, i dud asemple one of them, and demolished it a couple og hours laters, and made my first capital ship out of them , which was this baby: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/274760 :
and the color scheme just kinda stuck, when i made version II and III and Golden Whale,
but is till recommend that you make your owns stern, cause the new pre-fab hulls from lego, isnt working good as a stern,
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| June 24, 2012, 4:21 pm
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Quoting Griffin .
Guys, I REALLY want to make a ship with the hulls (Not custom) and so I have a set, Brickbeard's Bounty, and I want a side that wants to demolish it and doesn't want to. Should I destroy and make a new ship, or keep it that way?

everything you can make, is diffently better than the original, i had two of them, i dud asemple one of them, and demolished it a couple og hours laters, and made my first capital ship out of them , which was this baby: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/274760 :
and the color scheme just kinda stuck, when i made version II and III and Golden Whale,
but is till recommend that you make your own stern, cause the new pre-fab hulls from lego, isnt working good as a stern,
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| June 24, 2012, 4:21 pm
Quoting Griffin .
Guys, I REALLY want to make a ship with the hulls (Not custom) and so I have a set, Brickbeard's Bounty, and I want a side that wants to demolish it and doesn't want to. Should I destroy and make a new ship, or keep it that way?
Well, you could make a new ship by modifying the brickbeard's bounty. Thats how sebeus built his first big pirate ship, the Shadow, which is just a modification of the Skull eye schooner.
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| June 24, 2012, 4:23 pm
Also, my Black Ghost is nearly complete, and so is my new french frigate La vengeance. Both of these ships have better looking cabins than my previous ships. I'll probably upload a sea battle with the 2 ships although the Black ghost will be heavily undergunned. La vengeance has the capacity to carry 20 cannons, making it a 6th rate ship of the line.
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| June 24, 2012, 4:51 pm
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Ship coming up, not a fancy battleship or anything, my goal was to make a versatile ship for either trading or piracy :P
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sebeus/Pirate/Merchant-brig/dsc07911.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sebeus/Pirate/Merchant-brig/dsc07892.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Sebeus/Pirate/Merchant-brig/dsc07922.jpg

This ship might serve a purpose in my story 'More than a hull and sails"
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| September 28, 2012, 8:09 am
Hi guys, I just joined the group and I'm going to add my newest ship. It's not quite done yet, I need to add some extra details to it. I'ts a Spanish Brig of war that was captured by pirates, it's a full hulled ship as well. Here's a sneak peek: http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1112027.jpg
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| September 28, 2012, 3:11 pm
Quoting Trent Schellhaas
Hi guys, I just joined the group and I'm going to add my newest ship. It's not quite done yet, I need to add some extra details to it. I'ts a Spanish Brig of war that was captured by pirates, it's a full hulled ship as well. Here's a sneak peek: http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1112027.jpg
Looks good. I like the brick built hull and the curved gundeck, looks very accurate.
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| September 28, 2012, 4:14 pm
Quoting Trent Schellhaas
Hi guys, I just joined the group and I'm going to add my newest ship. It's not quite done yet, I need to add some extra details to it. I'ts a Spanish Brig of war that was captured by pirates, it's a full hulled ship as well. Here's a sneak peek: http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1112027.jpg


Very nice!
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| September 29, 2012, 2:07 pm
Thanks for the good reviews, now I'm a little more motivated to get it done. I just ordered some sails.
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| September 29, 2012, 3:04 pm
Quoting Trent Schellhaas
Thanks for the good reviews, now I'm a little more motivated to get it done. I just ordered some sails.


Sweet!
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| October 1, 2012, 5:33 pm
Development update. Added sails,cannons,improved railing, and a better rudder. I'm using the QAR sails until the ones I ordered arrive.
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| October 2, 2012, 9:12 am
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Quoting Trent Schellhaas
Development update. Added sails,cannons,improved railing, and a better rudder. I'm using the QAR sails until the ones I ordered arrive.
http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1120908.jpg

I like the shape of it, do you intend to work on the colors as well ?
The many different (rainbow) colors are a bit startling when viewing this moc, makes it hard to see the nicer details
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| October 3, 2012, 12:37 pm
Yes I'm working on the colors, but i have a low amount of brown and red pieces so I'm not sure when i can start replacing the color scheme.
Edit: Just ordered 200 2x2 inverted brown slopes for $5.00 :D
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| October 4, 2012, 7:43 am
Development update. My inverted slopes arrived and now most of the hull is now brown and smooth. I'm also working on a red stripe under the gun deck.
http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1140486.jpg
Nw i just need those new sails to arrive.
http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1140485.jpg
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| October 10, 2012, 12:34 pm
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Quoting Trent Schellhaas
Development update. My inverted slopes arrived and now most of the hull is now brown and smooth. I'm also working on a red stripe under the gun deck.
http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1140486.jpg
Nw i just need those new sails to arrive.
http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/1406933/pics/original/1140485.jpg

When you get your color scheme together,
Then it will be one very very fine vessel. Especialy for a noobie,
my first ship was Grim Reaper Version 1
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/226132 .
Which was a really nice attempt one: Then i improved it, 1 and a half year later, to this
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/319075URL .
so every first attaempt, can be imnproved, just like yours.
Sebeus's very very very first ship was this thing http://mocpages.com/moc.php/58877 .
Then he's first real ship (according to my own personal opnion) is this http://mocpages.com/moc.php/66891
(even though it actualy was the Espada)
But he made 5 versions of The Shadow, before he was happy about it,

my point is,
upgrades is nessary, even though you think that this MOC is your best one ever and it cant be improved.....then it can.....
im not 100% sure why i say all this, i just felt like giveing a good advice, that included showing off my own skills.....
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| October 10, 2012, 2:01 pm
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Quoting Morthen P
...
my point is,
upgrades is nessary, even though you think that this MOC is your best one ever and it cant be improved.....then it can.....
im not 100% sure why i say all this, i just felt like giveing a good advice, that included showing off my own skills.....

I can only agree with that, none of my ships where really ever finished, most of them were demolished for the sake of building a better ship, only a few remain and even those are updated at a regular basis.
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| October 11, 2012, 12:31 pm
Quoting Griffin .
The next version of The Skull's Rage is in progress, I can't get any more cannons though.

Then get a job! ;)
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| October 11, 2012, 12:37 pm
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Quoting Sebeus I
I can only agree with that, none of my ships where really ever finished, most of them were demolished for the sake of building a better ship, only a few remain and even those are updated at a regular basis.

same here, i've made a total of 7 ships,
4 versions of mermaids trident
(technicaly only 3, but GW is the finished verison of MT 1,2,and 3.

And my GR is in 2 versions aswell,

Crusader is still mark/version 1,
But there will be a version two of it,
I will guarentie that....
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| October 11, 2012, 12:39 pm
Well, I'm officially out out of money, the ships progress has been halted until i can get some more, but i will be posting another ship soon.
I just threw it together with some spare pieces I had.
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| October 23, 2012, 9:41 am
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I usually make prototypes with spare parts as well, only when I'm more or less sure it will work out I'll buy more lego
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| October 26, 2012, 5:57 am
I'm sorry its been so long, after letting the ship sit for 2 weeks, I decided to post it now.
Version two will be the final stage.
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| November 5, 2012, 8:58 am
I just added a smal ship:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/358125
And at the moment I'm working on a big one!
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| April 5, 2013, 3:40 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
Let us know what kind of ship you're building on,
a pirateship ? imperial ship, trading ship ? how many cannons ?
sail plan ? costum or prefab hulls ? and so on

i got my first ship in this group and my first creation on moc pages overallvit my attempt at recreating the interceptor from potc should be finished in a couple of days maybe one.
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| February 10, 2014, 6:13 am
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Quoting robert field
i got my first ship in this group and my first creation on moc pages overallvit my attempt at recreating the interceptor from potc should be finished in a couple of days maybe one.

Ah, the Interceptor, I like that ship, I'm looking forward to see your version ;)
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| February 11, 2014, 7:02 am
Quoting Sebeus I
Ah, the Interceptor, I like that ship, I'm looking forward to see your version ;)

it should be here in about a week maybe two i got the rest of the cannons i need and the cannon flaps on order so when they arrive, ill finish it and get it complete within the next day. so it wont take long.
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| February 11, 2014, 3:10 pm
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Quoting robert field
it should be here in about a week maybe two i got the rest of the cannons i need and the cannon flaps on order so when they arrive, ill finish it and get it complete within the next day. so it wont take long.

I too look forward to seing it!
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| February 12, 2014, 4:30 pm
Quoting Ben King
I too look forward to seing it!

thank you but ima post some wip photos on my page so advice is appreciated.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:03 pm
The parts i ordered arrived yesterday... Posting tomorrow hopefully

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| February 19, 2014, 11:51 am
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Quoting robert field
The parts i ordered arrived yesterday... Posting tomorrow hopefully

Ok,
if you have any problems with posting a new mocpage don't hesitate to ask ;)
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| February 20, 2014, 12:55 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
Ok,
if you have any problems with posting a new mocpage don't hesitate to ask ;)

i know i said photos today (well when this comment was posted) but it didnt work out the photos never uploaded and im going on holiday now so.... itl have to wait for a week or so :(
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| February 21, 2014, 5:50 pm
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I'm happy to say progress on my pearl has restarted! :)
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| April 19, 2014, 7:15 pm
I am currently in the process of starting to make a Spanish Conquistador Ship! I think it will be my biggest sailing ship yet...
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| April 20, 2014, 9:37 am
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