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 Group admin 
Posty here the LINK to your entry for the "Pimp My Toa!" contest.
Just remember that the name of your creation should be
"Pimp My Toa!" - Nameofthemodel.
or
Pimp My Toa! Nameofthemodel
or whatever, just keep in mind the basic parts: Pimp my toa! followed by the name of the original model.
Remember to read the rules before posting, to be sure you're good to go :)
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| June 15, 2010, 9:47 am
Whoa... I'm first to comment on the contest AND first to finish pimping my Toa? Weird. <http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/208292>;
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| June 17, 2010, 12:11 am
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Quoting Andrew Rose
Whoa... I'm first to comment on the contest AND first to finish pimping my Toa? Weird. <http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/208292

You need to check some of the posting rules... however, it's very cool!
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| June 17, 2010, 8:23 am
Okay, I fixed my messy photos. Sorry about that.
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| June 22, 2010, 8:29 pm
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Quoting Andrew Rose
Okay, I fixed my messy photos. Sorry about that.

Rule 3 is probably a big one though. Could you try retaking the pictures against a white background?
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| June 24, 2010, 4:26 am
My entry is titled toa lihkan of the glory days
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| June 30, 2010, 12:33 pm
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Quoting Ethan Dunne
My entry is titled toa lihkan of the glory days

Link?
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| July 2, 2010, 8:19 am
Quoting Chris Yee
Link?

I didn't post the link yet because I am having problems uploading the MOC
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| July 2, 2010, 1:41 pm
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Quoting Ethan Dunne
I didn't post the link yet because I am having problems uploading the MOC


Ahh k. Was just wondering, thats all.
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| July 2, 2010, 10:59 pm
Here's my entry: Turbo Phantoka Lewa Nuva!!

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/211673

With Uber Turbo Boosters of Course ;D!
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| July 3, 2010, 1:06 pm
here is mah entry
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/212473
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| July 7, 2010, 5:31 pm
 Group admin 
Ok here is my official entry:

"Pimp my toa- Stronius": Vex Vader

Link:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/212564
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| July 8, 2010, 6:05 am
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Quoting Harvey Cu
Ok here is my official entry:

"Pimp my toa- Stronius": Vex Vader

Link:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/212564

Oh, man... I don't know what to say, you put me in an awkward place with this.
I wrote this "-Power suits/mechs are cosidered vehicles, not modifications." expressly to avoid stuff like this.
Perhaps it was insufficient, but it's like if in Pimp my Ride you brought them a Chevy and they gave you back a LandMaster! http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/Landmaster%201.jpg
Although you managed to find a loophole in the "power suit" rule presenting it as a character (wich is also not allowed, since your entry is suppose to be Stronius), I don't know if I can accept it.
I'm asking here for the help of the others Admins: The entry is out of the spirit of the contest, but still barely in the rules (with a name change). What should be done in this case?
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| July 8, 2010, 6:52 pm
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Quoting Yuri Fassio
Oh, man... I don't know what to say, you put me in an awkward place with this.
I wrote this "-Power suits/mechs are cosidered vehicles, not modifications." expressly to avoid stuff like this.
Perhaps it was insufficient, but it's like if in Pimp my Ride you brought them a Chevy and they gave you back a LandMaster! http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/Landmaster%201.jpg
Although you managed to find a loophole in the "power suit" rule presenting it as a character (wich is also not allowed, since your entry is suppose to be Stronius), I don't know if I can accept it.
I'm asking here for the help of the others Admins: The entry is out of the spirit of the contest, but still barely in the rules (with a name change). What should be done in this case?



OK I would like to defend my entry with my following reasoning:
1. I strictly followed the rules(not my rules) of this contest to the letter.
2. My creation is not a powersuit. Not because of just a name change but because Stronius head was turn backwards and his legs were placed upwards to his chest defeating the purpose of powersuit of being easily controlled by limbs. A powersuit would be to add on new armor, jet pack, etc to existing normal posed character. In more so that my entry cannot even be considered a mech.
3. The name change is appropriate and their were no rules against it but just "pimp me-XYZ". Besides, normally heavy modified pimped up cars usually gets their name change by the builders. One may not notice anymore a heavily modified pimped up Chevy as a Chevy. Rules on the contest is silent on the degree of "pimp up".
4. According to Yuri himself, this contest is NOT a tribute contest where the character should still look similar to the original in a certain way. If I retained Stronius look without dismantling him with a "pimped up" Stronius wouldn't this have been more appropriate for the tribute contest?
5. The contest does not also imposed a size limitation as well.
6. "Out of the spirit of the contest" is quite subjective. The contestant of the contest should just read and follow the rules to simplify it and not second guess what is allowed "out of the spirit" of the contest.
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| July 8, 2010, 10:55 pm
 Group admin 
Thanks for the clarification :)
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| July 10, 2010, 7:21 am
 Group admin 
I suppose one has to consider what really is a powersuit. Most would think that it's a larger form of the pilot/wearer inside. This case is more that Stronius is a component of the whole.

It does seem to me that the majority thought that arms are the arms, torso the torso, legs are legs, etc, despite it not being specifically mentioned.

Though if we take it as they do in the show "Pimp My Ride", a lot of the end results still appear like their original vehicle. There's new upgrades, furnishings, and whatnot, but the overall body and chassis are still in their original factory form.

Just my 2 cents.

Anyway, I'll put mine up tomorrow hopefully.
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| July 10, 2010, 10:30 am
 Group admin 
My Entry: Golden Nuparu

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/213158
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| July 11, 2010, 9:55 am
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Got my entry finished =] Were-Matoro: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/213518
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| July 12, 2010, 5:06 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Harvey Cu
Ok here is my official entry:

"Pimp my toa- Stronius": Vex Vader

Link:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/212564

Sorry Harvey, but after DEEP thought, I decided to rule this "out of theme", on the basis that, in the end it's simply NOT a Toa nor a Glatoran.
Also, as it would be a conflict of interest (since judging was needed where I thought it woudn't be) I will not be entering my own. I might still post it, I don't know... it wuould be kinda pointless outside the game.
Still, if you get 2 admins to re-admit it no doubt it will get top score from me.
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| July 13, 2010, 5:01 am
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Quoting Yuri Fassio
Sorry Harvey, but after DEEP thought, I decided to rule this "out of theme", on the basis that, in the end it's simply NOT a Toa nor a Glatoran.
Also, as it would be a conflict of interest (since judging was needed where I thought it woudn't be) I will not be entering my own. I might still post it, I don't know... it wuould be kinda pointless outside the game.
Still, if you get 2 admins to re-admit it no doubt it will get top score from me.


I have to admit that reasoning got me more offguard than the Powersuit reasoning.

1.Last time I've known Stronium was a Glatorian. Rule 1 says that one should start with a Toa or Glatorian (Inika or Glatorian).

2. If you had meant that the final output after the modification should still be a toa or glatorian, it should have been included in the rules. But no mention of it but just get original toa/glatorian parts, rebuild to original and then without taking off any parts, add parts. Powersuits/vehicles excluded. There was no size limitation mentioned, nor was there mention that the story should be limited to the bionicle theme, no mention of final entry need to be a toa, humanoid, rahi, titan, etc. as well.

3. PIMP MY TOA title for me speaks for itself. I've pimped my Stronius according to the simple black and white rules given. If the title was PIMP to a BETTER TOA contest, I would have certainly without question released a different entry.

My above arguement does not in any way disrespect your ruling. I have no problem with your decision nor would I request any Admin to rule in my favor. I think that my Vex Vader while could have been my most controversial moc, will nevertheless even be remembered after the contest.

I would also would like to request that others who had incomplete original parts or has taken of some original piece or even those who are not familiar with your clean background rule to be still included in the judging phase even though there was some violation. It is just natural for new first time contestants to commit small mistakes but still be allowed to compete to build confidence and learn something from the more seasoned mocers.

For this contest, I would be refraining from judging the remaining entries for obvious reasons.

However, I would still participate in future BD contest as long as the theme is interesting or looks challenging because I am happy to share my creative skills and continue to give some sort of inspiration to other bio-mocers.
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| July 13, 2010, 8:11 am
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No need to be so formal, Harvey. It wasn't easy you know. I'd have prefered to avoid getting involved in direct judgement because I'd have gladly joined with my quad rendition of Mahri Nuparu. Add to that the fact that I love that MOC of yours and you'll understand why I said you put me in a difficult position.
Of couse I can appreciate your original take on the theme, but you just took it too far from the original concept (a Bionicle version of the MTV hit "Pimp my Ride), and you also didn't see where I answered Gringat about only using good guys.
Man, if anything was unclear, all you had to do was ask. Sorry you took it that way.
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| July 13, 2010, 8:56 am
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Quoting Yuri Fassio
No need to be so formal, Harvey. It wasn't easy you know. I'd have prefered to avoid getting involved in direct judgement because I'd have gladly joined with my quad rendition of Mahri Nuparu. Add to that the fact that I love that MOC of yours and you'll understand why I said you put me in a difficult position.
Of couse I can appreciate your original take on the theme, but you just took it too far from the original concept (a Bionicle version of the MTV hit "Pimp my Ride), and you also didn't see where I answered Gringat about only using good guys.
Man, if anything was unclear, all you had to do was ask. Sorry you took it that way.



I appreciate your answers and to the fact that you loved my moc however my son just couldn't let this go after reading your recent comment. So he pursuaded me to comment again. LOL.

At my age, I really don't follow this bionicle story, watch their movies, read their bios, nor read their comics. I couldn't care less who the bad, the good. I just get the set that for me makes great pieces for mocs. With regards to Gringat's comment of Ehlek, I thought you meant Ehlek as a Barraki was never a toa or glatorian in the first place and not covered in the contest. If one has to enter only "the real good guys" toa and only the "good guy glatorian", the rule would rather be discriminatory already and clearly limits participants who prefer buying bad guys over good guys.

Also, its rather wrong to assume that everyone knows the show "Pimp my ride" without even mentioning it in the rules. Mocer here comes from so many countries that some show does not even make it there since its not that popular. That show was like I think featured years ago and never did I watched it once so I really don't know what you are talking about. I, however, watched several car modification shows where there was heavy modifications resulting in a completely different car.

With regards to asking questions, I only ask if the given rules are not crystal clear to me. The given 123 rules are pretty straight forward already. Normally, you give out rules on size limit but for this contest you did not.
If you had made modification or clarification on the rules, best next time to post it as additional rules on the 123 rules. Some of the questions and answer where already after the contest officially started and this clearly cannot be fair to those who read the original rules and started their build before any Q&A.

But since you've brought up new rules not posted on the original but on Q&A. My son has re-read other Q&A and found some other entries should then be disqualified as well:

Q: "I'm in but would extending the legs count and by extending I mean place another ball joint lower than the ankle "

A: Nope. You need to find another way (look at previous questions for inspiration).

Seems to me two great recent entries as well need to be disqualified if you look closely at their pictures. Wouldn't it be unfair to say NO to the one who asked but allow others. But then again I suppose you will find some excuse to allow these entries to the detriment and understanding of someone who was not allowed.

I won't even mention anymore the other entries that don't clearly follow the 123 rules you have provided.
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| July 13, 2010, 10:06 am
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Quoting Harvey Cu
At my age, I really don't follow this bionicle story, watch their movies, read their bios, nor read their comics.

lol right there with you! I had to do a little research to familiaraze myself with the univierse to be able to start my Gala Magna series :)
Quoting Harvey Cu
With regards to Gringat's comment of Ehlek, I thought you meant Ehlek as a Barraki was never a toa or glatorian in the first place and not covered in the contest.

You got a point there
Quoting Harvey Cu

Q: "I'm in but would extending the legs count and by extending I mean place another ball joint lower than the ankle "

A: Nope. You need to find another way (look at previous questions for inspiration).

Seems to me two great recent entries as well need to be disqualified if you look closely at their pictures.


They didn't remove the feet to do it, as I thought the guy implied, since the possibility to add below the feet was already covered. I'm not taking responsibility for someone who re-asks an already answered question with different words.

Quoting Harvey Cu
I won't even mention anymore the other entries that don't clearly follow the 123 rules you have provided.

I haven't seen them all yet :)
Well, your arguments are pretty convincing, but I wouldn't be much of a referee if I returned on my decisions. Just get Berial or Gringat or Scott to OK it. Even a draw would suffice. Don't you think it would make me happy?
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| July 13, 2010, 11:06 am
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Maybe we need someone who speaks legalese to write up contest rules, so we don't get stuck with things like this lol There's definitely a lot of implied judgement and expected knowledge for unwritten rules.
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| July 17, 2010, 11:23 pm
Quoting Chris Yee
Maybe we need someone who speaks legalese to write up contest rules...


Lol, Lawyer!!
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| July 18, 2010, 7:56 am
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Quoting Baron Von Ben ~

Lol, Lawyer!!

You know how much lawyers cost these days?

Paralegals are cheaper :P
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| July 18, 2010, 8:04 am
Harvey, when it gets to the point when the argument could fill a chapter book, wouldn't it just be easier to make a new entry?
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| July 22, 2010, 2:55 pm
when is this contest over?
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| July 26, 2010, 6:22 pm
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Quoting Hank Hansen
when is this contest over?

Sorry, I've been quite busy organizing the MOColypics :(
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| July 27, 2010, 9:21 am
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