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Is "Like Hacking" still a thing? I may have found someone that has done so...
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I remember hearing about a bug in MocPages a few years ago where you could essentially "hack" the ratings on your mocs and make them crazy high. I heard that this bug was taken care of by Sean and that it didn't happen anymore.

I've recently ran across a moc from May 14, 2013, that appears to have been taken advantage of in the ratings.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/356066#comments

Pretty cool build, uses some sweet techniques. There are some red flags though:

37 likes on this moc, but only 12 comments (one being from the creator himself). Sounds a little suspicious, no?

Upon looking at the accounts that have commented on the creation, none of them have buddy icons. Initially I thought this was due to some kind of image server crash/lack of photos, but none of the accounts have ANY creations. All of the account URL's are suspiciously close together as well, it's almost saying to me that the accounts were all made on the same day by the same person.

For example, these are the following URL's of the accounts that have commented on the moc (no links, just the account number):

103979
103980
103981
103992
103996
103997
104001
104003
104004
104007
104015

These accounts being grouped together just look fishy to me, what about you guys? I've heard of people making second accounts just to "like" their own creations, but I've never seen anything this extensive.

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| July 11, 2013, 11:28 am
Seems plenty shady to me.
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| July 11, 2013, 11:37 am
From his comment it just sounds like he advertised it on some website and a bunch of people created accounts to comment... Still, it is suspicious...
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| July 11, 2013, 11:44 am
Quoting Halhi 141
From his comment it just sounds like he advertised it on some website and a bunch of people created accounts to comment... Still, it is suspicious...

That seems likely, especially by seeing that it has nearly 16,000 views in only 2 months.

If people from one site made accounts to comment, I see nothing wrong with it.
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| July 11, 2013, 11:51 am
 Group moderator 
Hmmm, I'm not sure encouraging people to create accounts JUST to like something is necessarily breaking any rules, lots of established members advertise via blogs, Flickr and other image sharing sites and Lego themed websites. However the views counter looks suspiciously inflated to me.

All we know for certain is that all the people that like that particular moc have only joined recently. But It might be worth looking into.
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| July 11, 2013, 11:54 am
Quoting andros tempest
Hmmm, I'm not sure encouraging people to create accounts JUST to like something is necessarily breaking any rules, lots of established members advertise via blogs, Flickr and other image sharing sites and Lego themed websites. However the views counter looks suspiciously inflated to me.

All we know for certain is that all the people that like that particular moc have only joined recently. But It might be worth looking into.

Well, after Googling what the creation is, it has been on a lot of tech blogs and forums, I guess it checks out.
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| July 11, 2013, 12:07 pm
And, is it just me, or does he comment on his own creation saying how surprised he is about how many people liked it before anybody else even commented?
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| July 17, 2013, 9:20 pm
Quoting Brick Munky
And, is it just me, or does he comment on his own creation saying how surprised he is about how many people liked it before anybody else even commented?

Plenty of people rate without commenting. He might have seen the creation get some likes from people who just rated.
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| July 17, 2013, 11:47 pm
 Group admin 
I did about two minutes of checking on that one and although on the surface it certainly LOOKS like an inflated rating, I believe it's legit. Take for example my LOTR collab post from a few years back. Only about 140 likes but well over 200,000 page views. When something gets blogged on other sites people follow the link to check it out and some of those people will create an account to leave a comment.

While the like inflation thing does happen, I think this one's on the up and up.

~Chris.
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| July 18, 2013, 2:20 am
Chris, are any admins still interested in "fixing" any previously like-hacked MOCs?

Like this one: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/301673

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| July 18, 2013, 6:10 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Digital Dreams
Chris, are any admins still interested in "fixing" any previously like-hacked MOCs?

Like this one: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/301673


If Sean has the time I'm sure he would. Right now however there are a number of things that are more on the top of his "to do" list and we (Mark and I) don't have the access to be able to fix those types of issues just yet.

In the mean time, we all know it's spam and the only person he's really hurting is himself and his own reputation.

But thanks for the link, things like that ALWAYS make me giggle. hehehe It's just sad really...

~Chris.
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| July 18, 2013, 6:45 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
37 likes on this moc, but only 12 comments (one being from the creator himself). Sounds a little suspicious, no?

Upon looking at the accounts that have commented on the creation, none of them have buddy icons. Initially I thought this was due to some kind of image server crash/lack of photos, but none of the accounts have ANY creations. All of the account URL's are suspiciously close together as well, it's almost saying to me that the accounts were all made on the same day by the same person.

For example, these are the following URL's of the accounts that have commented on the moc (no links, just the account number):

103979
103980
103981
103992
103996
103997
104001
104003
104004
104007
104015

These accounts being grouped together just look fishy to me, what about you guys? I've heard of people making second accounts just to "like" their own creations, but I've never seen anything this extensive.

I don't know. But I wouldn't be too worried about it even if it was a hack, because It's only 30 something ratings. It is possible to Like a creation, and then log out, and like it again, equaling two likes. I did notice that the creator said a thanks to the people from MD Gaming... So the COULD have come from there and made an account just to like and comment. And the people who were too lazy to make an account just probably clicked the like button.
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| July 21, 2013, 4:50 pm
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