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Hey,I have noticed a creation that had gotten more likes than what it said.It's blank on this MOC:http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311051
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| February 24, 2012, 9:57 am
Me too! I'm an already 8 likes, but all I get is a blank face thingy.

Here:
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311098


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| February 24, 2012, 10:07 am
I also just noticed that these comments were:

1) Posted all today, and
2) All about creations posted recently. (The designer Kitchen was posted yesterday)

Does this mean that, I don't know, maybe we have to wait a certain amount of time before they show up? Did MOCpages change its settings? Or is this just some glitch we don't know about?

Because, as I believe someone above me mentioned, it used to be if you had one like, it wouldn't show. If you had 2 likes, it would say 1 person likes this. (Or it would say 2 people like this, but I can't remember).

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| February 24, 2012, 10:11 am
 Group moderator 
as a rule of thumb the updates to likes counters (while consistently glitchy) have tended to be immediate. I've never heard of it being necessary to wait for them to show before.

I've just checked out the first moc (the kitchen one) and yes, there should definitely be at least 9 likes, but at the moment the counter is showing nil.

I think this is one that sean and co need to look into.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:29 am
Quoting andros tempest
as a rule of thumb the updates to likes counters (while consistently glitchy) have tended to be immediate. I've never heard of it being necessary to wait for them to show before.

I've just checked out the first moc (the kitchen one) and yes, there should definitely be at least 9 likes, but at the moment the counter is showing nil.

I think this is one that sean and co need to look into.


Agreed.

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| February 24, 2012, 10:48 am
All the comments left today don't seem to have bestowed "Likes". I just commented and liked the MOTD and the like counter didn't change.
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| February 24, 2012, 2:21 pm
My MOC is also not showing the likes that I got. the link: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311139 Like everyone else's it shows that there are no likes.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:18 pm
Something is definitely wrong with the "Like" counter, did the crash yesterday may have had something to do with it. Hope Sean and everyone can get this fixed, I really want to see the MOC-Like number (Smilies) up again.

Please (if you can) get this fixed before the MOCathalon! :)

Thanks Sean & the MOCpages crew for everything that they do!
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| February 24, 2012, 4:30 pm
Hmm... my MOC should now have at least 23 smilies, (and in just one day, so I'm very excited), but none of them are showing up.

D:

We know your doing your best, Sean & crew, so we'd understand if you couldn't get to this right away.

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| February 24, 2012, 4:33 pm
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311115

This has 8 comments, but it says it doesn't have likes.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:38 pm
Does anyone else notice that you can't see who like your creation? not just the counter is not working.
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| February 24, 2012, 7:45 pm
For what it is worth... it's happening to me too!
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| February 24, 2012, 7:50 pm
me too! And today's MOC I posted is going to be a hot one!
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| February 24, 2012, 9:01 pm
Yeah, all of the ones on the homepage are doing this right now, it appears so anyhow.
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| February 24, 2012, 9:47 pm
The Likes counter is known for being imprecise.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:01 pm
Hmm, mine is doing the same thing now...

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311235#comments
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| February 25, 2012, 2:30 am
Quoting Areetsa C
The Likes counter is known for being imprecise.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.


You know, there is a SLIGHT difference between imprecise and not counting anything any of the likes at all...

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| February 25, 2012, 6:05 am
 Group admin 
Yeah, there's always been a slight calibration problem with the Likes, but this is more extreme from what I'm hearing. I'll mention it to Sean.

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| February 25, 2012, 6:41 am
Hi!My VW caravelle has 13 "likes",but under it says "rated 5 out of 5(20 ratings).Link here:http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310398
Thanks!Regards,Patrick S.
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| February 25, 2012, 6:45 am
Quoting Patrick Star
Hi!My VW caravelle has 13 "likes",but under it says "rated 5 out of 5(20 ratings).Link here:http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310398
Thanks!Regards,Patrick S.

You can rate something without commenting.
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| February 25, 2012, 7:04 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
Yeah, there's always been a slight calibration problem with the Likes, but this is more extreme from what I'm hearing. I'll mention it to Sean.


Thanks! =)

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| February 25, 2012, 9:39 am
Quoting Areetsa C
You can rate something without commenting.


That has nothing to do with what he said. He simply stated that it has more ratings than likes. You can't rate something without either liking or disliking it, and since it is 5 out of 5, then chances are just about everyone 'liked' it. So it should show 20 smilies, not 13.

He never even mentioned comments...

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| February 25, 2012, 9:41 am
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Quoting Athanasios Lazarou

That has nothing to do with what he said. He simply stated that it has more ratings than likes. You can't rate something without either liking or disliking it, and since it is 5 out of 5, then chances are just about everyone 'liked' it. So it should show 20 smilies, not 13.

He never even mentioned comments...

what areetsa was saying, and you seem to have missed his point - is that the total number of likes with the "i like this" tag, will probably not be the absolute guide for the total number of likes next to the smiley face, because not everyone bothers to comment when they like something.

For example, I have a moc with 5 likes, but no comments.





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| February 25, 2012, 9:47 am
Quoting andros tempest
For example, I have a moc with 5 likes, but no comments.

He's referring to when you look at the part that says "Rated 5 out of 5 (34 ratings)". If it says (34 ratings), then the MOC would show up as having 33 likes. (95 ratings) would be 94 likes, and so forth. It seems his creation says (20 ratings) but only registers 13 likes. It has nothing to do with comments.
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| February 25, 2012, 10:00 am
Quoting andros tempest
what areetsa was saying, and you seem to have missed his point - is that the total number of likes with the "i like this" tag, will probably not be the absolute guide for the total number of likes next to the smiley face, because not everyone bothers to comment when they like something.

For example, I have a moc with 5 likes, but no comments.

Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
He's referring to when you look at the part that says "Rated 5 out of 5 (34 ratings)". If it says (34 ratings), then the MOC would show up as having 33 likes. (95 ratings) would be 94 likes, and so forth. It seems his creation says (20 ratings) but only registers 13 likes. It has nothing to do with comments.


Yes, actually, that's exactly what I was saying.

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| February 25, 2012, 12:48 pm
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Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
He's referring to when you look at the part that says "Rated 5 out of 5 (34 ratings)". If it says (34 ratings), then the MOC would show up as having 33 likes. (95 ratings) would be 94 likes, and so forth. It seems his creation says (20 ratings) but only registers 13 likes. It has nothing to do with comments.


again, I wasn't restating or challenging the "original" inquiry, just clarifying that the comment, you dismiss, is actually relevant to the conversation.

OK.

When you comment and rate at the same time, your comment has a little sign next to it saying "I like it". Now a percentage of the figure next to the "persons like this" counter does in fact include each of these "I like it comments", so "comments" ARE relevant to the inquiry. However, as Areetsa correctly pointed out, you cannot simply count up how many comments, or for that matter visitors you've had and that give you a figure close to the I Like It count, because some people rate and don't comment, others comment but don't rate and some people don't do either.

Some people ARE using the fact they have "A lot of comments" to justify why their likes counter, which is currently registering zero, should be higher - because they have nothing else to base it on. But as a guide for what the true figure is, or as a means of testing how serious the problem is, it isn't an accurate benchmark.


You are correct that comments aren't the issue, but I completely disagree that to even mention them, is off topic, as I've tried to explain (as best I can) they are relevant and factoring into SOME people's queries of this issue.


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| February 25, 2012, 12:56 pm
And it keeps going: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311324
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| February 25, 2012, 2:48 pm
Same here. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311305
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| February 25, 2012, 4:14 pm
Do you have any idea if the likes can be restored? Or should I delete my creation, and put it back up when it's fixed?
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| February 25, 2012, 5:01 pm
Boy, I hope this will not be permanent.

I beleive there's something wrong with the likes here: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/309976
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| February 25, 2012, 5:02 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
Boy, I hope this will not be permanent.

I beleive there's something wrong with the likes here: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/309976

There is nothing wrong, except for the fact that every creation has 1 like less then it should have.
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| February 25, 2012, 5:07 pm
Quoting Seth .
There is nothing wrong, except for the fact that every creation has 1 like less then it should have.

It has "18 likes". But then, one person liked and comment recently. It should be "19 likes"
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| February 25, 2012, 5:10 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
It has "18 likes". But then, one person liked and comment recently. It should be "19 likes"

Yes, I know. But that is a glitch that cannot be fixed, and has been here for well over 3 years.
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| February 25, 2012, 5:15 pm
 Group admin 
The single "like" missing is a glitch that's been around forever so don't expect that one to go away.

As far as the other "likes" not showing up over the past day or two, I've emailed Sean about it and he'll be looking into it to see what the problem is.
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| February 25, 2012, 5:21 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
The single "like" missing is a glitch that's been around forever so don't expect that one to go away.

As far as the other "likes" not showing up over the past day or two, I've emailed Sean about it and he'll be looking into it to see what the problem is.

Thank you for the update.

I heard this had happened before, so do you know if the likes could be restored, or would they just start from 0?
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| February 25, 2012, 5:33 pm
Quoting Seth .
Thank you for the update.

I heard this had happened before, so do you know if the likes could be restored, or would they just start from 0?


I really hope not...


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| February 26, 2012, 6:26 am
I'm wondering if all the likeless MOCs will automatically be fixed once the problem is sorted out, or if we'll have to report each creation that needs fixing...
For the record, my most recent MOC (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311403) was posted last night, and it should have 15 likes (taking into account the -1 glitch).
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| February 26, 2012, 7:39 am
Quoting Chronos Omega
I'm wondering if all the likeless MOCs will automatically be fixed once the problem is sorted out, or if we'll have to report each creation that needs fixing...
For the record, my most recent MOC (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311403) was posted last night, and it should have 15 likes (taking into account the -1 glitch).

This whole thing happened once before and when it was fixed the "likes" weren't restored :( Hopefully the "likes" can be restored this time just for the sake of this model: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311051 !
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| February 26, 2012, 10:50 am
Quoting Chronos Omega
I'm wondering if all the likeless MOCs will automatically be fixed once the problem is sorted out, or if we'll have to report each creation that needs fixing...
For the record, my most recent MOC (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311403) was posted last night, and it should have 15 likes (taking into account the -1 glitch).

Yeah, I'm hating this too, its really annoying!
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| February 26, 2012, 11:11 am
Quoting Hayden .
Yeah, I'm hating this too, its really annoying!


Agreed. I know that posting creations isn't about how many likes you get, or who comments on it, or whatnot, but when you've posted something and within 2 days it gets 30 likes... well, it would be a shame for it to all just get lost, you know?

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| February 26, 2012, 1:08 pm
Quoting Athanasios Lazarou

Agreed. I know that posting creations isn't about how many likes you get, or who comments on it, or whatnot, but when you've posted something and within 2 days it gets 30 likes... well, it would be a shame for it to all just get lost, you know?

Exactly, Its really annoying, And its useful to know if people have liked what you've built.
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| February 26, 2012, 1:12 pm
Quoting andros tempest
what areetsa was saying, and you seem to have missed his point - is that the total number of likes with the "i like this" tag, will probably not be the absolute guide for the total number of likes next to the smiley face, because not everyone bothers to comment when they like something.

For example, I have a moc with 5 likes, but no comments.





So does it means that if there's
"13 people like this". "Rated 5 out of 5 (23 ratings)",then those 23 ratings doesn't count,or it should show:"23 people like this"?Thanks!Regards!Partick S.
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| February 26, 2012, 1:59 pm
It's also happening to me.
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311350
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| February 26, 2012, 2:28 pm
Quoting Seth .
Thank you for the update.

I heard this had happened before, so do you know if the likes could be restored, or would they just start from 0?

Yeah, this happened last year. I think last year the smiley faces just started from zero.
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| February 26, 2012, 2:43 pm
Its happening to everyone over the last few days, you are not alone!

Quoting Legofreak2444 ~
It's also happening to me.
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311350


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| February 26, 2012, 3:51 pm
this has got to me, too! http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311057 this is missing 10 likes! so is this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311055. both are creations I've posted recently...
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| February 26, 2012, 4:30 pm
Happening to everyone... Right now, it's not that big of a deal... But, it would be if I added something big. Which I will be making a really cool ship next.
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| February 26, 2012, 8:58 pm
 Group admin 
Just an update here -

Chris and I have both notified Sean seperately, so he should be looking into this. I haven't received a response from Sean, however. I don't know if Chris has or not.

This also means for the time being, that I can't say whether the ratings being given during this time period will eventually show up, or be lost in the ether. I can relate to the concern, as I'd be frustrated having posted something and not knowing if any ratings would surface, but we'll just have to wait to hear from Sean on this.

If I hear anything back from him directly on the glitch, I'll certainly pass along the info, and I'm sure Chris will, too.


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| February 27, 2012, 7:54 am
Quoting Mark Kelso


Thanks, Mark. It's good to know what's going on, even if there isn't a solution as of yet. :)
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| February 27, 2012, 8:17 am
 Group admin 
For the record I haven't heard back from Sean on this either. But as Mark stated, as soon as either of us hear anything we'll be sure to let you all know.
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| February 27, 2012, 9:10 am
 Group moderator 
there is oddness going on today regarding this glitch.

I have one new moc that is showing 3 likes already (uploaded today) but no names attached to it, plus the figure next to the smiley face is zero. I've also added comments with ratings to three different mocs and all three showed NO increase to the totals for those mocs, regardless of whether they were old or new.

As a test I also went into a moc I rated a few days ago (when stuff was working) and selected the change my rating option, which SHOULD list ALL my recent ratings, but it doesn't, it shows nothing since Friday 24th February 2012, so I'm guessing the issue is with the part of the database which records this information. (the "New" ratings for each member) this might also explain why "anonymous" ratings appear to be working, but member ones appear to not be working, or at the very least, not working for SOME members.

Hope all this helps in identifying the source of the problem.

It does make me wonder though if some attention seeking or spiteful troll, may have hacked the website to deliberately disrupt the likes counter. Ultimate pay back for being unpopular is making everyone else look a little less popular too....

Just a thought.
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| February 27, 2012, 9:21 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
For the record I haven't heard back from Sean on this either. But as Mark stated, as soon as either of us hear anything we'll be sure to let you all know.

sean, well He no longer cares about MOCpages (in my opinin)
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| February 27, 2012, 9:51 am
Quoting Nate B
sean, well He no longer cares about MOCpages (in my opinin)

Not to start a debate, but why would you think that?
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| February 27, 2012, 10:06 am
Quoting Chronos Omega
Not to start a debate, but why would you think that?

cause, he is never active.I know he might be building stuff all the time. but he just. isnt active.
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| February 27, 2012, 10:07 am
Same thing with my rating reviews as Tempest said above... I sure hope this will be straightened up soon :(
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| February 27, 2012, 10:08 am
Quoting Nate B
cause, he is never active.I know he might be building stuff all the time. but he just. isnt active.

Just because MOCpages isn't necessarily Sean's top priority does not at all mean that he doesn't care about it. He's a busy guy.
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| February 27, 2012, 10:11 am
Quoting Chronos Omega
Just because MOCpages isn't necessarily Sean's top priority does not at all mean that he doesn't care about it. He's a busy guy.

hmmmmm, yeah.....
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| February 27, 2012, 10:13 am
Quoting Chris Roach


I know, I thought I might as well throw mine in also. :P
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| February 27, 2012, 11:40 am
Has anyone thought that this could maybe be a good thing?
That this glitch could show us that even without our precious smiley's, MOCpages functions fine?
And when they eventually come back, maybe we will have a new found awareness of the purpose of MOCpages.

Just a thought... :)

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| February 27, 2012, 12:31 pm
If this continues,then in some day we dont have MOTD's because anyone doesn't have any "Likes".Thats just my scenario :P
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| February 27, 2012, 12:31 pm
Quoting Patrick Star
If this continues,then in some day we dont have MOTD's because anyone doesn't have any "Likes".Thats just my scenario :P

MOTD's are picked by randomness, it dosent matter. how many likes you have....and you can see the amount of likes you jave by looking at the ratings.
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| February 27, 2012, 12:37 pm
Quoting Nate B
MOTD's are picked by randomness, it dosent matter. how many likes you have....and you can see the amount of likes you jave by looking at the ratings.

I just said that its my scenario,and i know it doesnt make any sense :P I noticed,its off topic a little bit.sry about that!
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| February 27, 2012, 12:45 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Has anyone thought that this could maybe be a good thing?
That this glitch could show us that even without our precious smiley's, MOCpages functions fine?
And when they eventually come back, maybe we will have a new found awareness of the purpose of MOCpages.

Just a thought... :)
I completely agree with this Ru! I'm getting a bit fed up of "Like" hunters. It's the nice comments I appreciate most :-)

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| February 27, 2012, 1:08 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Has anyone thought that this could maybe be a good thing?
That this glitch could show us that even without our precious smiley's, MOCpages functions fine?
And when they eventually come back, maybe we will have a new found awareness of the purpose of MOCpages.

Just a thought... :)

That would be good! IT might cut down on spammers and maybe make some people actually learn how to build....
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| February 27, 2012, 1:31 pm
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Quoting ~~ Patrick~~ .
I'm also against the like system, because some people think that it is a popularity contest and that being popular means that you are a good builder, I have seen some "Minifig- on a plate" builds with 40 or 50 likes. Also, then, there would not be spammers spamming creations with hundreds of likes.

people who are spamming just to annoy other members will still add extra unnecessary comments. But I appreciate the optimism.
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| February 27, 2012, 1:32 pm
Quoting ~~ Patrick~~ .
I'm also against the like system, because some people think that it is a popularity contest and that being popular means that you are a good builder, I have seen some "Minifig- on a plate" builds with 40 or 50 likes. Also, then, there would not be spammers spamming creations with hundreds of likes.
I'm not saying I'm against the "Like" system, I'll probably miss it like most people. I'm just aggreing with Ru that people might actually come to appreciate MOCpages for being a great Lego community rather than a popularity contest and chasing the Likes.

I'm sure they'll get it fixed soon, we just need to try to not expect too much from this great free service we are all benefiting from. People need to think, is there really a better place to share your Lego creativity?
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| February 27, 2012, 1:43 pm
Quoting DeTomaso Pantera
Quoting Ru Corder
Has anyone thought that this could maybe be a good thing?
That this glitch could show us that even without our precious smiley's, MOCpages functions fine?
And when they eventually come back, maybe we will have a new found awareness of the purpose of MOCpages.

Just a thought... :)
I completely agree with this Ru! I'm getting a bit fed up of "Like" hunters. It's the nice comments I appreciate most :-)

Absolutely agreed!I'm fustrated because of those spammers too,however nobody havent spammed my creations,but when i see that some very undetailed and "boring" creation gets 100 likes and when you take a look at the comments,there are 80 spammed comments.That made me feel that this "Like" system isn't maybe doing the "job",as it should do. Maybe its good in some cases that the "Like" system is out of order for now.
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| February 27, 2012, 1:52 pm
Quoting Nate B
cause, he is never active.I know he might be building stuff all the time. but he just. isnt active.

Just because he's not active doesn't mean he doesn't care about MOCpages. I've heard the mods say he's on every day - just doesn't comment etc...

-LB Jr.
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| February 27, 2012, 3:53 pm
Quoting Kyle Peckham
That would be good! IT might cut down on spammers and maybe make some people actually learn how to build....

There's definitely merit to the like system, as it usually brings the more appealing MOCs to the surface of the pool, which not only makes the homepage "prettier" for any potential members who are thinking about getting an account, but allow for everyone to find the most interesting MOCs quickly. That said, the lack of likes has merit, too. It might reduce spamming, like Kyle said, and it also is less discouraging for those who see the massively popular creations on the front page dwarfing their overlooked build.


Now, the popularity of my MOCs doesn't really concern me, apart from using the feedback that goes with them to attempt to improve my builds, but the popularity of others' MOCs definitely influences the chances that I might check them out. The cleaner, more refined builds are typically the more popular ones, and they are brought to the user's attention by conveniently being located on the front page. This aspect of the system is good because it eliminates time-consuming digging to find the good stuff.

So, in conclusion, I do think that the like system is good and should be repaired, but I don't see any reason why it has to be anytime soon. Take your time, Sean.
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| February 27, 2012, 4:21 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Has anyone thought that this could maybe be a good thing?
That this glitch could show us that even without our precious smiley's, MOCpages functions fine?
And when they eventually come back, maybe we will have a new found awareness of the purpose of MOCpages.

Just a thought... :)

So without ratings we will reach enlightenment? :P
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| February 27, 2012, 6:04 pm
Nate, this is the wrong . . . place. He isn't active because he spends most of his time fixing servers from August 2011's Server Crash. Or running MOCpages.
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| February 27, 2012, 6:13 pm
Quoting Zack .
Nate, this is the wrong . . . place. He isn't active because he spends most of his time fixing servers from August 2011's Server Crash. Or running MOCpages.

oh what?

Me and him chated on neat chat and at one of his displays.....I basicly know him.....if you are talking about the group
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| February 27, 2012, 6:14 pm
Quoting Nate B
oh what?

Me and him chated on neat chat and at one of his displays.....I basicly know him.....if you are talking about the group

its how i found out about mocpages.
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| February 27, 2012, 6:16 pm
Will our likes be able to be recovered? When will the likes counter be back up?
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| February 27, 2012, 6:17 pm
Quoting Nate B
oh what?

Me and him chated on neat chat and at one of his displays.....I basicly know him.....if you are talking about the group


Where?
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| February 27, 2012, 6:20 pm
Quoting Zack .

Where?

Clinton NJ
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| February 27, 2012, 6:21 pm
Quoting Nate B
Clinton NJ


Oh.

Quoting others


This has 12 likes, but shows NONE.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311200
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| February 27, 2012, 6:24 pm
Quoting Zack .
Quoting others


This has 12 likes, but shows NONE.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311200

I'm missing about 50 likes between two MOCs posted this weekend.
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| February 27, 2012, 7:48 pm
Quoting Chronos Omega
I'm missing about 50 likes between two MOCs posted this weekend.

Missing 33 from one... :/
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| February 27, 2012, 8:30 pm
I just cant afford to have so many likes gone... I'll not post anything for a while.
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| February 27, 2012, 8:53 pm
Quoting Nate B
sean, well He no longer cares about MOCpages (in my opinin)

In defense of Mr. Kenney, I don't believe that's true at all. He's a top notch professional builder and probably just doesn't have time to post creations. Between fixing all the technical issues that spring up on MOCpages, building huge scale Lego creations for "patrons", and being the head of a family, I'm sure he's swamped! So I wouldn't worry about Mr. Kenney on account of his "activity" here on the pages. =D
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| February 27, 2012, 10:12 pm
Quoting Cody G
So, in conclusion, I do think that the like system is good and should be repaired, but I don't see any reason why it has to be anytime soon. Take your time, Sean.


Here, here!
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| February 27, 2012, 10:16 pm
Quoting Cody G
There's definitely merit to the like system, as it usually brings the more appealing MOCs to the surface of the pool, which not only makes the homepage "prettier" for any potential members who are thinking about getting an account, but allow for everyone to find the most interesting MOCs quickly. That said, the lack of likes has merit, too. It might reduce spamming, like Kyle said, and it also is less discouraging for those who see the massively popular creations on the front page dwarfing their overlooked build.


Now, the popularity of my MOCs doesn't really concern me, apart from using the feedback that goes with them to attempt to improve my builds, but the popularity of others' MOCs definitely influences the chances that I might check them out. The cleaner, more refined builds are typically the more popular ones, and they are brought to the user's attention by conveniently being located on the front page. This aspect of the system is good because it eliminates time-consuming digging to find the good stuff.

So, in conclusion, I do think that the like system is good and should be repaired, but I don't see any reason why it has to be anytime soon. Take your time, Sean.

I have to admit I find the "likes" system rather motivating. But I agree that MOCpages should not be a race for popularity, in the spirit of all honesty I sometimes find myself viewing it that way. Feedback and "smileys" do give a sense of accomplishment to the given builder though. The problem is when out-of-place pride kicks in and you (meaning everyone, not Cody) start comparing your worth to other people's on account of their "likes". It can be a struggle, and though I like the "likes" system a lot, I think what Cody is saying has a lot of legitimacy and truth to it. Okay...enough preaching, just my two cents on the subject. Oh, and pat yourselves on the back if you took the trouble of reading all that! =D

~Ian
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| February 27, 2012, 10:33 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek


I agree. We just need to be patient. It will be fixed eventually.
-LB Senior
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| February 27, 2012, 10:46 pm
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Quoting Seth .
Missing 33 from one... :/


please don't take offence, but how do you know that? as has been pointed out already, the number of comments with "I Like It" written next to them is not the definitive number. The number of visitors is not a guarantee they like it, and some ratings might be 3 or less, which would not = an extra number in the smiley's counter.

not to mention you have no way of knowing how many guests have viewed your stuff.

Truth is, the only people who can be certain how many likes they have, are those who have "arranged" for the moc to be "liked" fraudulently by x number of friends. (I hasten to add that isn't what I'm suggesting you have done, just using it as an example).

In all honesty you are only assuming you should have "at least" 33 likes already, you don't know for certain.



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| February 28, 2012, 3:32 am
Quoting andros tempest

please don't take offence, but how do you know that? as has been pointed out already, the number of comments with "I Like It" written next to them is not the definitive number.

*snip*


I beg to differ. For example, you can be sure up to one or two likes when it says the ratings. My batmobile, to name one, says rated 5 out of 5 (32 ratings). That means that 32 people rated it, and even though it has no smilies (due to the glitch) I know that it is missing 32, not ten.

So the other fellow's moc may say rated... whatever out of 5, by howevermanyratings. See?

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| February 28, 2012, 10:11 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
I have to admit I find the "likes" system rather motivating. But I agree that MOCpages should not be a race for popularity, in the spirit of all honesty I sometimes find myself viewing it that way. Feedback and "smileys" do give a sense of accomplishment to the given builder though. The problem is when out-of-place pride kicks in and you (meaning everyone, not Cody) start comparing your worth to other people's on account of their "likes". It can be a struggle, and though I like the "likes" system a lot, I think what Cody is saying has a lot of legitimacy and truth to it. Okay...enough preaching, just my two cents on the subject. Oh, and pat yourselves on the back if you took the trouble of reading all that! =D

~Ian


I patted myself! Right there, right on the back! *tears of joyous accomplishment*

*sniffle* +D

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| February 28, 2012, 10:13 am
Quoting Athanasios Lazarou

I patted myself! Right there, right on the back! *tears of joyous accomplishment*

*sniffle* +D

*hands over the tissue box*
Amen brother! Thanks for your time. You should go be a professional-self-back-patter or something! =D
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| February 28, 2012, 10:18 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
*hands over the tissue box*
Amen brother! Thanks for your time. You should go be a professional-self-back-patter or something! =D


*wipes nose really loudly ans snottily*

Thanks, man, I needed that. I actually was hired once, to be a professional-self-back-patter, but it unfortunately fell through when I realized just how much my back ached after each day of hard work.

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| February 28, 2012, 10:43 am
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Quoting Athanasios Lazarou

Well clearly the "snip" was where you stopped bothering to read and just missed the entire point of what I'm saying.

If someone has a new moc, the figure shows zero and they claim "I should have 12 likes already" what are they basing that on? I'm being serious, I could claim I've a moc missing 250 likes, it's nothing more than guess work.

NOT ONE rating I've given in 3 days is recorded anywhere on MOC pages, so unless I TELL the people I've liked their stuff, how do they know?

That was my point. No new ratings are showing up on almost everyone's mocs, since last Friday, so the figures people are quoting could be more, they could be less.

I'm not challenging how the figures work, I'm just stating that people are basing these figures on an assumption. And I don't actually know what that assumption is.

So I tried to explain how the assumption might be wrong.




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| February 28, 2012, 11:10 am
Quoting andros tempest
sigh.

How do you know it is EXACTLY 32 missing I like it's? I'm being serious here, how do you ACTUALLY know that? Because I can tell you now, I've rated lots of mocs over the last two days and not one of those ratings shows up ANYWHERE.

So whatever you are basing that number on, I can assure you - it isn't correct.



What do you mean, how do I know? Next to the blank I Like It head area, it says rated 33 times.

However, I have a feeling that it only shows up on each person's OWN creation. So if I was signed out, for example, I have a feeling it wouldn't show, you know?

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| February 28, 2012, 11:19 am
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Quoting Athanasios Lazarou

What do you mean, how do I know? Next to the blank I Like It head area, it says rated 33 times.

However, I have a feeling that it only shows up on each person's OWN creation. So if I was signed out, for example, I have a feeling it wouldn't show, you know?

again missing the point. If the figure next to the blank head is currently showing 33, then how do you know there aren't another 100 waiting to be added?
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| February 28, 2012, 11:22 am
Quoting andros tempest
again missing the point. If the figure next to the blank head is currently showing 33, then how do you know there aren't another 100 waiting to be added?


Ah, I see what you are saying. I know because those increase every time someone rates or comments. The '[insert number here] ratings' (the little parenthesis next to the head and number of likes)continues to increase, while the head itself and the number showing how many likes you have continues to remain blank.

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| February 28, 2012, 12:56 pm
I would like to add, if someone ells hasn't, that if I rate using the little rating bar at the top of a creation it will allow me to rate as many times as I would like, and not just once.
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| February 28, 2012, 1:12 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
I would like to add, if someone ells hasn't, that if I rate using the little rating bar at the top of a creation it will allow me to rate as many times as I would like, and not just once.


Christian! Remember me? I'm from your FLVS course in Reading 1. I can see that you made a lot of creations already! Congratz!

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| February 28, 2012, 2:20 pm
Quoting Reynolds (Ren')

Christian! Remember me? I'm from your FLVS course in Reading 1. I can see that you made a lot of creations already! Congratz!

This is not the place for this. Thank you, but I will take this up with you on one of my creations...
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| February 28, 2012, 3:00 pm
Quoting andros tempest

I was basing it off the ratings, but I would highly doubt that someone would rate it without a like. Not to be bragging or anything. :3
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| February 28, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek
Oh, and pat yourselves on the back if you took the trouble of reading all that! =D

~Ian

Pat pat. :p
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| February 28, 2012, 7:07 pm
Weird... I just got a rating... While this invisible rating thing was in effect?
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| February 28, 2012, 7:15 pm
Quoting Freeling ++
Weird... I just got a rating... While this invisible rating thing was in effect?

Probably an anonymous rating.
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| February 28, 2012, 7:23 pm
Just another annoncment of the glitch. When I posted my entrie into the "Dark Ages" I noticed it wasn't working right.
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| March 1, 2012, 9:08 am
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Quoting Freeling ++
Weird... I just got a rating... While this invisible rating thing was in effect?


Same here. nearly 17 likes on one (new) moc, but no list of who liked them (counting up the comments the total would probably be closer to 5) so I'm guessing:

1. the data base recording user votes is still not working properly
2. most of (if not all) the votes are from guests

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| March 1, 2012, 9:41 am
Okay, No offense to Sean here but I really don't understand why he does not give us assurance he is NEVER active in this group and never responds to questions. He is the creator of this site and isn't that his job? To answer questions? Chris and Mark seem to be the only ones running this site, yes I understand Sean is busy being a famous Lego builder and all but I just never see activity from him, and I would bet fellow MOCers could confirm that.
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| March 2, 2012, 8:46 am
Does anyone have an update on the status of this issue?
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| March 2, 2012, 8:53 pm
I would like to add something to this - the "most popular" area on your home page which displays your most popular mocs is also affected by this. I just added a creation, and judging from the number of comments and ratings, it should be around 2nd on my most popular list. However, it isn't.
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| March 3, 2012, 7:15 am
Hi Chris and Mark. Sorry to bother you but is there an update on this? I know that mocing is not about receiving 'likes' but this site relies heavily on the like system as mentioned above. Personally I am holding off posting and commenting, it also appears that others are doing the same - the site seems very quiet at the moment. I know you guys are busy but a little update would be great. Thanks in advance. :).
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| March 3, 2012, 7:24 am
Quoting Nate B
MOTD's are picked by randomness, it dosent matter. how many likes you have....and you can see the amount of likes you jave by looking at the ratings.

No, there is a usual rhythm of the MOC having many Likes, views etc.
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| March 3, 2012, 8:01 am
Quoting Nate B
MOTD's are picked by randomness, it dosent matter. how many likes you have....and you can see the amount of likes you jave by looking at the ratings.


No, MOTD is picked at random once a MOC meets a certain level of likes and ratings, so the 'I Like It's do come into the equation.

No ratings / I Like It's = No chance of getting MOTD.

This is also why you often see a 'clone on a plate' as MOTD, even if it isn't very good, because it will have lots of 'Likes' from the buider's friends.

In short - rate honestly and the MOTD will only feature good MOCs.
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| March 3, 2012, 9:17 am
Quoting MortalSwordsman .
Hi Chris and Mark. Sorry to bother you but is there an update on this? I know that mocing is not about receiving 'likes' but this site relies heavily on the like system as mentioned above. Personally I am holding off posting and commenting, it also appears that others are doing the same - the site seems very quiet at the moment. I know you guys are busy but a little update would be great. Thanks in advance. :).

I'm holding off posting too. I do like seeing the amount of smilies. I know the site isn't about getting super popular, but it does make me happy when I see my creation has a decent amount of smilies.
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| March 3, 2012, 9:21 am
Quoting Grant W.
I'm holding off posting too. I do like seeing the amount of smilies. I know the site isn't about getting super popular, but it does make me happy when I see my creation has a decent amount of smilies.

Well, although this issue bugs me, I'm not letting it deter me- I've posted four MOCs, and yes, I am missing a lot of likes, but I'm going to keep on posting, even if the like system isn't fixed for a long time.
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| March 3, 2012, 9:32 am
Quoting MortalSwordsman .
Hi Chris and Mark. Sorry to bother you but is there an update on this? I know that mocing is not about receiving 'likes' but this site relies heavily on the like system as mentioned above. Personally I am holding off posting and commenting, it also appears that others are doing the same - the site seems very quiet at the moment. I know you guys are busy but a little update would be great. Thanks in advance. :).

I know it's not very good, but I'm not posting any new MOC's while the like system doesn't works properly. This is mostly because I got 2 upcoming MOC's that both are worthy of being my personal most popular MOC, so I really want them to be my personal most popular MOC, but that won't happen if the like system doesn't works properly.....
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| March 3, 2012, 11:16 am
I continue to hold ‘the faith’ that there is a rational & justified reason for what has been termed, the ‘smiley-face glitch’. Here is the link, fortunately, to my only mocpage that is affected: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/311124
Having been kept completely ‘in the dark’ about this ‘glitch’, I have no idea whether this is of any help’? Please accept my apologies if it is not helpful or I have bothered you, as I simply seek a resolution to/information on the ‘glitch’. :)
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| March 3, 2012, 12:06 pm
I just realised. Doesn't ''Smiley Face Glitch'' sounds like it could be a new CreepyPasta? And yeah all my MOCs are affected i think. Some aren't liked yet. But some are..
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| March 3, 2012, 12:11 pm
Well, yes you all have made very good points on this subject. I know the popularity of your creations is not important, but how good your creation is. Who knows? Maybe someone made this glitch to teach us a lesson. I notice many many people are very upset over this matter. And how they don't want any of their creations to have 0 likes. I hope the problem will be fixed very soon, as I am also concerned about this situation. Like many others, I want the like counter to be fixed. But I'm also sure that this can teach us a very important lesson. To those who are reading this, don't think that just because your creations are missing likes, your popularity decreases. And again this website is not about popularity, but about enjoying the building of LEGO. I also know the disappointment of thinking about how many likes you think you're going to get, but you get a lot less. But don't let that you stop building. Just because the like counter is not working, and just because it is not displaying how many likes you have, that doesn't mean people have stopped commenting. People are still commenting and still rating on your creations. And sometimes, somebody posts a really good creation, but nobody has ever found it. So they are really disapointed that their creation is unpopular. But I hope you understand that likes aren't the important thing on this website. It's having fun and building your best that matters. I also hope the like counter will be fixed. So think about everything I said. I hope you understand

With all due respect,

Armon Russ
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| March 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
Yeah... it looks like I picked a bad day to post that MOC...
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| March 3, 2012, 11:19 pm
Quoting Grant W.
I'm holding off posting too. I do like seeing the amount of smilies. I know the site isn't about getting super popular, but it does make me happy when I see my creation has a decent amount of smilies.

That sums up my thoughts perfectly. I was actually going to post a MOC the other day, only to find out about this "like" problem. I like to have a gauge of how well-recieved my MOCs are, especially compared my previous creations, so I'll be holding off for a bit.
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| March 4, 2012, 3:42 pm
Quoting Armon Russ
EPIC SPEECH


With all due respect,

Armon Russ


*applause*
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| March 4, 2012, 3:52 pm
Quoting Flare .
Yeah... it looks like I picked a bad day to post that MOC...


Hehe. It appears I posted my creation right on the day the glitch started... just my luck. =D

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| March 5, 2012, 3:10 am
Quoting Juha Manner
I have done research and I've come to the conclusion that all pages have the same problem!

oh my gowsh, I DID NOT KNOW that :)
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| March 5, 2012, 8:43 am
Any update?
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| March 7, 2012, 2:40 pm
Yeah, my recent creations don't show the likes. I hope It'll change back...
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| March 7, 2012, 5:28 pm
Any updates relating to the problem, Mods? I sure hope this is fixed soon for everyone's benefit :)
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| March 8, 2012, 9:43 am
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Quoting 12Lego Greendude
Any updates relating to the problem, Mods? I sure hope this is fixed soon for everyone's benefit :)


Sean's still looking into it. It's a very strange bug... We've narrowed it down to "about" when it began occuring but are still not sure what caused it. Sean's working on it and we'll let you know as soon as we hear something new.
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| March 8, 2012, 9:54 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Sean's still looking into it. It's a very strange bug... We've narrowed it down to "about" when it began occuring but are still not sure what caused it. Sean's working on it and we'll let you know as soon as we hear something new.

Thanks Mr. Phipson :)
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| March 8, 2012, 9:58 am
^Agreed, thank you. :)
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| March 9, 2012, 1:01 am
I have one question about this whole crash when/if it is fixed wil the original like intended to be their come back. I want to post this creation I have but i want to have the like counter on because well i like the likes :L
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| March 9, 2012, 11:33 pm
Quoting Leaith The Silent Knight
I have one question about this whole crash when/if it is fixed wil the original like intended to be their come back. I want to post this creation I have but i want to have the like counter on because well i like the likes :L

Same here, but I have like 5 mocs or more to post :) I am wondering the same thing...

I hope this problem is solved soon :)
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| March 9, 2012, 11:37 pm
Regarding the people who are worried about losing their likes, I may have a solution but its not the best.Make a note of who commented on your moc. Delete the moc. Re-post it when problem gets fixed. Put a comment on a creation of each person who commented on yours to come back a rate it (after the problem is fixed). But if you do this, also try to leave some good feed back on the other's moc (if you hadn't already done so). Not the greatest fix to the problem but I guess its something.
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| March 9, 2012, 11:52 pm
Quoting M G
Regarding the people who are worried about losing their likes, I may have a solution but its not the best.Make a note of who commented on your moc. Delete the moc. Re-post it when problem gets fixed. Put a comment on a creation of each person who commented on yours to come back a rate it (after the problem is fixed). But if you do this, also try to leave some good feed back on the other's moc (if you hadn't already done so). Not the greatest fix to the problem but I guess its something.


Asking people to come 'like' the same creation they 'liked' before is rude and inconsiderate.

Asking someone to look at a MOC is rude in the first place, but when you ask someone to look at the same MOC again just so you can have your 'likes'...
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| March 10, 2012, 5:17 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 ~

Asking people to come 'like' the same creation they 'liked' before is rude and inconsiderate.

Asking someone to look at a MOC is rude in the first place, but when you ask someone to look at the same MOC again just so you can have your 'likes'...

Hit the nail on the head my friend.


I can't STAND seeing tiny kids saying "PLZ CAN U CHK OUT MA MOKS"
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| March 10, 2012, 5:56 pm
it's never happened to me
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| March 10, 2012, 6:13 pm
I am hoping yes, but guessing no. This occured to one of my MOCs a few years ago although it should have many Smiley's it still shows as blank. Murphy's law - One of my recent posts has become my most popular (rated) MOC to date but the smiley's don't tell that story. I'm not worrying about it and continue to post more MOCs, I hope everyone will just not worry about the Smiley's and continue to post great creations because that's what this site is about!

Cheers!

Chris

Quoting Leaith The Silent Knight
I have one question about this whole crash when/if it is fixed wil the original like intended to be their come back. I want to post this creation I have but i want to have the like counter on because well i like the likes :L


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| March 10, 2012, 6:38 pm
Quoting GrayFox 5
it's never happened to me

Yes, it has. Take for example this MOC of yours: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312679 Next to a comment left by Calvin Russ, it has the 'I like it' tag, but your MOC registers 0 likes.

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| March 10, 2012, 7:54 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 ~

Asking people to come 'like' the same creation they 'liked' before is rude and inconsiderate.

Asking someone to look at a MOC is rude in the first place, but when you ask someone to look at the same MOC again just so you can have your 'likes'...

I don't do that but whatever. I meant for the people who are really concerned about "likes", they could do that. You're right though, its rude.
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| March 10, 2012, 9:56 pm
Hey guys, i have the same problem: my creation should have 2 likes right now, but there is no like shown. But i have another strange problem: i cant like any creations! Everytime i vote for a creation, this doesnt count. So i vote a creation 4 or 5, but nothing happens. Wuzzup there? Please help me, thats a really annoying problem.
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| March 11, 2012, 11:03 am
Quoting Hendrik Bareinz
Hey guys, i have the same problem: my creation should have 2 likes right now, but there is no like shown. But i have another strange problem: i cant like any creations! Everytime i vote for a creation, this doesnt count. So i vote a creation 4 or 5, but nothing happens. Wuzzup there? Please help me, thats a really annoying problem.

It's happening to everyone. Until the problem is fixed, you can't like any mocs or have any of your mocs liked. I'm not sure if the missing likes are going to be restored. Please be patient and wait like all other Mocists here
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| March 11, 2012, 2:04 pm
Oh, sorry. I thought Id be the only one. I was too lazy to read ALL the posts :P (But I read some of them, okay xD?). Anyway, thank you for the answer. I hope theyll be restored cause the likes are really important for a new MOCpages user like me. But we can only wait and hope... and post some creations :D!!!
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| March 11, 2012, 2:41 pm
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Quoting Hendrik Bareinz
Oh, sorry. I thought Id be the only one. I was too lazy to read ALL the posts :P (But I read some of them, okay xD?). Anyway, thank you for the answer. I hope theyll be restored cause the likes are really important for a new MOCpages user like me. But we can only wait and hope... and post some creations :D!!!


True, the likes are a good thing but... check your "number of views" as well. This tells you how many times people look at your page (basically the same kinda thing) and then you still have the comments left for you that show the smiley (even if it's not recorded in the "likes" area).
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| March 11, 2012, 2:56 pm
I can still see how many times my creations have been rated 4 or 5 out of 5. The only problem is, I don't know who rated my models if they don't leave a comment. Thats why I always try to leave a comment if I like a model. You can still "like" someone's creations, but if you don't write something as well, it just becomes an anonymous rating. Just drop them a "Cool" or "Nice work", if you want to know your rating counts.
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| March 11, 2012, 3:22 pm
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Quoting John Fink
I can still see how many times my creations have been rated 4 or 5 out of 5. The only problem is, I don't know who rated my models if they don't leave a comment. Thats why I always try to leave a comment if I like a model. You can still "like" someone's creations, but if you don't write something as well, it just becomes an anonymous rating. Just drop them a "Cool" or "Nice work", if you want to know your rating counts.


I usually try to do that under normal circumstances, but that's a good suggestion to us all for countering the effects of this bug until it's squared away.

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| March 12, 2012, 10:25 am
This bug is really weird! Some older creations that already have "likes" does in fact still register new likes, both with and without comments. But this seems to be very random.
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| March 12, 2012, 4:20 pm
I've had this problem with my most recent MOC. Will it be fixed soon?
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| March 12, 2012, 5:53 pm
Everyone stop complaining when it's fixed it's fixed okay? It is very hard to find out if somebody commented I always look at the ratings and if it hasn't changed then I think no one's commented on it. But I'm sure Sean and the crew is working very hard. So everyone calm down he's going to notify us soon hopefully...
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| March 12, 2012, 6:06 pm
Why are you guys still so worried about Likes? I don't see what all of the griping is about.

THIS IS A SITE-WIDE PROBLEM.

No one is having induvidual trouble. Everyone's Like Counter is out. Be happy that it's only the Counter. Likes can, and probably will, be recovered. If the entire site was down for maintenance, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Please just forget about saying "my moc has zero likes when it should have twenty-five!", All of the Counter's are down. Post your mocs and be happy that the whole site isn't down.

- KP -|
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| March 13, 2012, 6:44 am
I would like to point something out.

This guy's ( http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/57547 ) shows that he has 0 veiws and likes when he actually has more. But he experienced this glitch way BEFORE we did. (Check his Moc's date posted.)

Did this glitch spread out like a disease would?
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| March 13, 2012, 7:06 am
Quoting Bluestar ~
I would like to point something out.

This guy's ( http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/57547 ) shows that he has 0 veiws and likes when he actually has more. But he experienced this glitch way BEFORE we did. (Check his Moc's date posted.)

Did this glitch spread out like a disease would?

No, it didn't.

Shadow Toa had his Likes disabled by Sean because a spammer's email pointed back to him.

His sister claimed she made the spam account and spammed 3 or 4 mocs over 400, but it was no use. The email address pointed back to Shadow Toa.
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| March 13, 2012, 7:23 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
Why are you guys still so worried about Likes? I don't see what all of the griping is about.

THIS IS A SITE-WIDE PROBLEM.

No one is having induvidual trouble. Everyone's Like Counter is out. Be happy that it's only the Counter. Likes can, and probably will, be recovered. If the entire site was down for maintenance, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Please just forget about saying "my moc has zero likes when it should have twenty-five!", All of the Counter's are down. Post your mocs and be happy that the whole site isn't down.

- KP -|


Actually it´s not a site-wide problem...some older creations still register new likes :)

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| March 13, 2012, 7:48 am
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Quoting Dave Benson

Actually it´s not a site-wide problem...some older creations still register new likes :)


technically untrue, the smilie number seems to be fixed at either nothing or what it was when the problem started. At least on any older mocs I've rated in the last week or so.

what we mean by "site-wide" is that it is affecting all members and all new mocs, not just individuals. some members thought the problem initially was more random than that.

it should be noted that members can still view their own totals, there is just no information as to who cast those votes, which leads many to assume they are anonymous guest voters and not other members. but those totals are not viewable to guests, or other members. (at least not on any mocs I've checked out today).
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| March 13, 2012, 8:18 am
Eh, she'll be right.

It'll get fixed eventually.

Even if it doesn't, I don't really post anything anyway so...

Another glorious victory for Procrastination-Man!
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| March 13, 2012, 8:37 am
Quoting andros tempest

technically untrue, the smilie number seems to be fixed at either nothing or what it was when the problem started. At least on any older mocs I've rated in the last week or so.

what we mean by "site-wide" is that it is affecting all members and all new mocs, not just individuals. some members thought the problem initially was more random than that.

it should be noted that members can still view their own totals, there is just no information as to who cast those votes, which leads many to assume they are anonymous guest voters and not other members. but those totals are not viewable to guests, or other members. (at least not on any mocs I've checked out today).


I won´t argue that it doesn´t affect most members...but yesterday I got two new likes on two different mocs that did register :) Well I really don´t care about the ratings anymore as long as I´m satisfied with the result.
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| March 13, 2012, 9:11 am
Quoting Dave Benson

I won´t argue that it doesn´t affect most members...but yesterday I got two new likes on two different mocs that did register :) Well I really don´t care about the ratings anymore as long as I´m satisfied with the result.

I got 1 smiley on one of my old MOC too! So I guess it's in the process of being finished :)
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| March 13, 2012, 9:29 am
I'm not getting ANY smiley's on my Paintball Clone Trooper, and 7 people have 'liked' it! What do I do!?
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| March 13, 2012, 6:51 pm
Quoting Noah the Lego Apprentice
I'm not getting ANY smiley's on my Paintball Clone Trooper, and 7 people have 'liked' it! What do I do!?


Nothing you can do.
-LB Senior
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| March 13, 2012, 6:54 pm
 Group admin 
I understand your frustration, guys. I've also become really accustomed to those beloved smileys. Sean's aware of the problem, though, so now we'll just have to muster some patience and hope that he can get things squared away.

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| March 13, 2012, 7:00 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso
I understand your frustration, guys. I've also become really accustomed to those beloved smileys. Sean's aware of the problem, though, so now we'll just have to muster some patience and hope that he can get things squared away.

Alright, thanks for the update sir!
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| March 13, 2012, 7:16 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Another glorious victory for Procrastination-Man!

You always know what to say, whether it's hurtful, eye-opening, or just plain hilarious.

Procrastination-Man lives in all of us...

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| March 13, 2012, 11:08 pm
I noticed that this MOC's likes seem to be working. It was added today. Everything else still is messed up. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/313877
-LB Senior
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| March 13, 2012, 11:09 pm
Well, I see the Likes are working again! I hope they are fixed for good now, thanks SEan and the MP Crew!

I'm not trying to sound like a Like-hungry person, but a few of mocs need some smilies.

I'm taking into account the 1-Like glitch from a long time ago.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312878
This one should have 18 Likes.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312306
This should have 36.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/313752
This should have 32.

Thanks guys, hope my ratings come back!
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| March 14, 2012, 6:38 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
Well, I see the Likes are working again! I hope they are fixed for good now, thanks SEan and the MP Crew!

I'm not trying to sound like a Like-hungry person, but a few of mocs need some smilies.
Hey, Kyle if your ratings are gone and they put the smiley counter up they'll stay gone, because this happened before and someone said that would happen...
I'm taking into account the 1-Like glitch from a long time ago.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312878
This one should have 18 Likes.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312306
This should have 36.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/313752
This should have 32.

Thanks guys, hope my ratings come back!


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| March 14, 2012, 7:59 am
I like this! thank you for all the work!
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| March 14, 2012, 8:15 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
Well, I see the Likes are working again! I hope they are fixed for good now, thanks SEan and the MP Crew!

I'm not trying to sound like a Like-hungry person, but a few of mocs need some smilies.

I'm taking into account the 1-Like glitch from a long time ago.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312878
This one should have 18 Likes.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/312306
This should have 36.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/313752
This should have 32.

Thanks guys, hope my ratings come back!

but, new likes are not showing on some older mocs from last week, or the week before. Yet new likes on mocs added this week are working, but you still can't view who voted before yesterday.

So for all those people who asked "will it still save the information" the answer seems to be no, it didn't.


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| March 14, 2012, 9:18 am
Well looks like the "likes" are back up and running! Thanks Sean and Co. for all your hard work! Seems as though all the rating given over the "likeless" period aren't going to show up, but that was to be expected.
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| March 14, 2012, 10:01 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
Well looks like the "likes" are back up and running! Thanks Sean and Co. for all your hard work! Seems as though all the rating given over the "likeless" period aren't going to show up, but that was to be expected.

Not at all. Some things have 9 comments and likes but it only shows one. But at least the likes are back.

Thanks to Sean and Co.!
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| March 14, 2012, 10:18 am
Quoting Deff .
Not at all. Some things have 9 comments and likes but it only shows one. But at least the likes are back.

Thanks to Sean and Co.!


Yeah, but I don't think everything is fixed yet...what about the rest of the MOCs we've had?





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| March 14, 2012, 10:24 am
Quoting Deff .
Not at all. Some things have 9 comments and likes but it only shows one. But at least the likes are back.

Thanks to Sean and Co.!

Yea, It only shows one because the rest were when we didn't have likes and the likes don't show up if you want them to. You probably have to delete the creation and post it again. THANK YOU Sean and Co.!!!
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| March 14, 2012, 10:31 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
Well looks like the "likes" are back up and running! Thanks Sean and Co. for all your hard work! Seems as though all the rating given over the "likeless" period aren't going to show up, but that was to be expected.

Great! I have heard so many people say that if the like system wouldn't be fixed, the would leave and set up at Flickr. It's a pity that your older likes won't count, but its fixed!
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| March 14, 2012, 11:00 am
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Quoting Achintya Prasad
Great! I have heard so many people say that if the like system wouldn't be fixed, the would leave and set up at Flickr. It's a pity that your older likes won't count, but its fixed!

speaking as someone tired of the bartering and fraud that has been going on regarding the likes counter over the last year, most of those people who ONLY care about likes are welcome to leave as far as I'm concerned.

And good riddance.
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| March 14, 2012, 11:18 am
So the smilies won't be restored? :/
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| March 14, 2012, 2:31 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Seth .
So the smilies won't be restored? :/


I doubt it, the information to link each like to who rated the moc doesn't appear to have been saved. so while a tally of ratings has been kept (you could still view totals but they weren't public) ALL of them are showing as anonymous and therefore not generating a smilie face tally.

whatever, there are bigger problems in this world than a few missing ratings.

Some people are "asking" for them to be manually adjusted, but seriously I doubt Sean will do that. Especially considering there are still dozens of pictures not visible after the last major crash.

I could be wrong, but I think we are all going to have to just write off any mocs we put up last week as far as the likes counter is concerned.

Shame, because one of mine was my busiest moc ever. [shrug] whatever.

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| March 14, 2012, 2:37 pm
Let's not jump to conclusions. Sean and the crew are still working on it.
-LB Senior
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| March 14, 2012, 2:43 pm
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Quoting Lego Builders
Let's not jump to conclusions. Sean and the crew are still working on it.
-LB Senior


well it's just an educated guess, but if the database wasn't storing information about WHO was liking mocs, then it isn't possible to distinguish between anonymous and member votes. to get the smilie face number right would require manually adjusting everyone's counters, which I personally wouldn't do, even if Sean would. And to get the "who likes it" list compiled would (I'm assuming) be next to impossible.

Ok a large amount of this is guess work, but it is based on my own knowledge of database management and observations of the extent of the problem, both viewing as a member and visitor today and over the last month.


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| March 14, 2012, 2:48 pm
busy MOC ever for me too during this period .. but oh well it is what it is.

Quoting andros tempest

I doubt it, the information to link each like to who rated the moc doesn't appear to have been saved. so while a tally of ratings has been kept (you could still view totals but they weren't public) ALL of them are showing as anonymous and therefore not generating a smilie face tally.

whatever, there are bigger problems in this world than a few missing ratings.

Some people are "asking" for them to be manually adjusted, but seriously I doubt Sean will do that. Especially considering there are still dozens of pictures not visible after the last major crash.

I could be wrong, but I think we are all going to have to just write off any mocs we put up last week as far as the likes counter is concerned.

Shame, because one of mine was my busiest moc ever. [shrug] whatever.


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| March 14, 2012, 3:11 pm
The only problem was that smilies are the only reason one gets on the Homepage, or the Explore page.
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| March 14, 2012, 4:15 pm
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Quoting Seth .
The only problem was that smilies are the only reason one gets on the Homepage, or the Explore page.


no they aren't. I was on the home page while the smilies weren't working. it`'s ALL the activity on a moc, likes, comments, views, that gets you on the home page, not just one factor.
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| March 14, 2012, 4:30 pm
agreed mine was on too last week with no smileys!


Quoting andros tempest

no they aren't. I was on the home page while the smilies weren't working. it`'s ALL the activity on a moc, likes, comments, views, that gets you on the home page, not just one factor.


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| March 14, 2012, 5:21 pm
Quoting Seth .
So the smilies won't be restored? :/

I doubt it. But even so, that won't stop people from liking your creations. Overall, I think that the like counter won't change. But lately, I have seen, the 'pages have been plagued with problems a lot these last few months. And i would have to say that Sean and his team are doing a good job at plugging the holes in (what is most probably) one of the fastest growing websites in the world!
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| March 14, 2012, 5:40 pm
It seems as though the problem has been fixed. If you click on the mocs added today, the likes will show up!
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| March 17, 2012, 12:25 am
Even though people are gaining likes on new creations, I'm still not gaining them on creations I posted prior to the "smiley's" system crash. I've had several comments (over the past several days) on creations that I added before the crash, but the "likes" number stays the same. Any idea what that's about?
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| March 17, 2012, 1:13 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ian Spacek
Even though people are gaining likes on new creations, I'm still not gaining them on creations I posted prior to the "smiley's" system crash. I've had several comments (over the past several days) on creations that I added before the crash, but the "likes" number stays the same. Any idea what that's about?


that's precisely what I stated above. looks like it isn't as simple as they aren't working at all though. I have four that I posted about the same time, one had no likes during that period, got it's first one this week and seems to be fine. However another two had dozens of "anonymous" votes during the black out, is probably still getting the odd one, but the figure still shows nothing against the smilies.

So it doesn't seem to be just "when" they were posted that is the issue. There clearly is some bug that has disconnected the coding to add new likes, possibly connected to the old "add one" bug that has been going on since before I joined.

Like I said above, just ignore the likes counter on the ones you posted during the blackout, as we all know they are wrong.
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| March 17, 2012, 1:26 pm
Quoting andros tempest

that's precisely what I stated above. looks like it isn't as simple as they aren't working at all though. I have four that I posted about the same time, one had no likes during that period, got it's first one this week and seems to be fine. However another two had dozens of "anonymous" votes during the black out, is probably still getting the odd one, but the figure still shows nothing against the smilies.

So it doesn't seem to be just "when" they were posted that is the issue. There clearly is some bug that has disconnected the coding to add new likes, possibly connected to the old "add one" bug that has been going on since before I joined.

Like I said above, just ignore the likes counter on the ones you posted during the blackout, as we all know they are wrong.

I didn't post any during the "blackout". I'm talking about a creation I posted before the blackout. Someone commented on it today, but the counter didn't go up. Sorry I'm slightly confused with what your saying (above).
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| March 17, 2012, 7:21 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ian Spacek
I didn't post any during the "blackout". I'm talking about a creation I posted before the blackout. Someone commented on it today, but the counter didn't go up. Sorry I'm slightly confused with what your saying (above).


creations posted during the blackout, or just before, but got NO votes then, don't seem to have a problem. those posted before or during and got votes during the blackout, seem to have a problem.



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| March 18, 2012, 12:44 pm
Quoting andros tempest

creations posted during the blackout, or just before, but got NO votes then, don't seem to have a problem. those posted before or during and got votes during the blackout, seem to have a problem.



Yeah, bummer. It's my latest creation too...so I guess no more likes for me until I post something new! Oh well, not the end of the world.
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| March 18, 2012, 3:25 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek
Yeah, bummer. It's my latest creation too...so I guess no more likes for me until I post something new! Oh well, not the end of the world.


Yeah, you can just delete it and re-add it, WITHOUT taking it out of your trash can. Hope this helps, because the ILI counter's back in running since maybe the 14th or 15th of this month.
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| March 18, 2012, 3:32 pm
Quoting Zack .

Yeah, you can just delete it and re-add it, WITHOUT taking it out of your trash can. Hope this helps, because the ILI counter's back in running since maybe the 14th or 15th of this month.

Nah, I'm not going to delete any of my MOCs. And the one I'm talking about has a reasonable amount, so no big deal.
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| March 18, 2012, 3:40 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek
Nah, I'm not going to delete any of my MOCs. And the one I'm talking about has a reasonable amount, so new big deal.


I got an MOC with like 13 likes, but I'm not complaining that much.
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| March 18, 2012, 3:42 pm
Quoting Zack .

I got an MOC with like 13 likes, but I'm not complaining that much.

whats that? are we going off topic here? ok!
now its my turn FTW!

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| March 18, 2012, 3:47 pm
Hey, hate to introduce a new trouble right after the like counter was fixed, but I think I've noticed another related glitch. Has the like counter been unfixed for some older creations? Today I got a comment on one of my MOCs posted several months ago, and even though it said "I like it" beside the comment my like total didn't go up. So I'm just curious as to if the glitch has been fixed on new MOCs but left on old ones somehow.
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| March 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Hey, hate to introduce a new trouble right after the like counter was fixed, but I think I've noticed another related glitch. Has the like counter been unfixed for some older creations? Today I got a comment on one of my MOCs posted several months ago, and even though it said "I like it" beside the comment my like total didn't go up. So I'm just curious as to if the glitch has been fixed on new MOCs but left on old ones somehow.
It works only on MOCs posted after the like-counter was fixed. So, the glitch is fixed.

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| March 18, 2012, 8:48 pm
Quoting Noah the Lego Apprentice
It works only on MOCs posted after the like-counter was fixed. So, the glitch is fixed.

Cool, I probably should have spent a minute to read the posts before me before I commented, ah hindsight...
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| March 18, 2012, 8:50 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Hey, hate to introduce a new trouble right after the like counter was fixed, but I think I've noticed another related glitch. Has the like counter been unfixed for some older creations? Today I got a comment on one of my MOCs posted several months ago, and even though it said "I like it" beside the comment my like total didn't go up. So I'm just curious as to if the glitch has been fixed on new MOCs but left on old ones somehow.

As you might have seen from my comments above, I've got the same problem. I guess we'll just have to live with it. More incentive to create new MOCs that surpass our old ones! =D
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| March 19, 2012, 12:04 am
If any of you got likes whenever the like counter wasn't working then just do this.

1. Look at how many rates you got on your creation.

2. Create or use your friends account.

3. Comment enough times(In other words, spam.) to make up for the likes that didn't show up.

4. Just delete the comments that you posted.

Vola, you have it. Now your creation has the right amount of likes it's supposed to have. Some of you probably had this idea but for those who didn't then here ya go...
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| March 19, 2012, 1:33 am
Okay, It looks like the likes counter is fixed.

Admins can lock this, People can stop whining about their likes, And Procasting-man (Areetsa) can still enjoy his glorious victory.
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| March 19, 2012, 4:20 am
Quoting +++Bluestar+++ '
Okay, It looks like the likes counter is fixed.

Admins can lock this, People can stop whining about their likes, And Procasting-man (Areetsa) can still enjoy his glorious victory.

I'd correct your spelling but I can't be bothered right at the moment.
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| March 19, 2012, 7:30 am
hey, my "like meter smiley" is still NOT working. anyone knows whats going on ?
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| March 25, 2012, 1:32 pm
Quoting count dooku (asa) E
hey, my "like meter smiley" is still NOT working. anyone knows whats going on ?

Is it for new mocs or old mocs (before the likes problem was fixed)?

If it was old mocs, then the likes will not reappear. If it was new mocs, then IDK what is going on... :P

Hope this kinda helped
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| March 25, 2012, 9:34 pm
Quoting 12Lego Greendude
Is it for new mocs or old mocs (before the likes problem was fixed)?

If it was old mocs, then the likes will not reappear. If it was new mocs, then IDK what is going on... :P
hi, its the new ones, as well....

Hope this kinda helped


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| March 26, 2012, 1:46 am
SO: I got about 30 hits into this Thread and then my brain began to glaze over... obviously this problem has caused alot of controversy.

One of my most... Reviewed (I'll not say 'popular' here, as the terminology has been seen to cause apoplexy amongst some) MOCs has been struck by this. I'll come out and say it: I was hoping for that one to by my MOST (~ack~) POPULAR MOC to-date. But alas, even having maintained a 5/5 w/85 ratings-to-date; my Counter still reflects a 6 - only moving after they were apparently RESET all across MOCpages a day last week. I am not ashamed to say I am disappointed with this.

While I couldn't find any input on this Thread by Sean, or another bullet from any in this group saying they'd put in a HELP REQUEST, I wanted you to know I submitted one on 2/26/12... with NO reply, and no fix. Obviously, I waited quite some time for a Fix to be implemented, even going so far as to wait 2 weeks between attempts to follow up. Not sure if any of the rest of you did the same, but I wanted you to know at least one of us have.

I will re-state: OF COURSE getting high Smileys on a Like Counter IS NOT THE POINT of MOC-ing - but it IS pleasing to see that folks see MERIT in your work(s), and haven't minded making an effort to say so. That the problem hasn't been fixed is... rather disenfranchising.

I will be posting my latest Inquiry this morning. PLEASE let me know, if any of you've received any responses to this problem. Cheers~
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| March 30, 2012, 10:54 am
Unfortunately, this moc says it has two ratings but it doesn't show any likes...

Link: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/317012
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| April 2, 2012, 11:33 pm
Quoting Mark Kelso
I understand your frustration, guys. I've also become really accustomed to those beloved smileys. Sean's aware of the problem, though, so now we'll just have to muster some patience and hope that he can get things squared away.

Trying to make sure I'm no over-visiting this issue, but: any word on fixes? I understand continual inquiries are annoying, but, to show respect, you can see we are waiting intervals of several weeks at a time between checking in. Thank you solemnly for any help, in advance.
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| May 31, 2012, 4:25 pm
Quoting Clever Crowe
Trying to make sure I'm no over-visiting this issue, but: any word on fixes? I understand continual inquiries are annoying, but, to show respect, you can see we are waiting intervals of several weeks at a time between checking in. Thank you solemnly for any help, in advance.

The Like Counter was a site-wide problem, it's been fixed now for over a good month.
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| May 31, 2012, 4:31 pm
Quoting Kyle Peckham
The Like Counter was a site-wide problem, it's been fixed now for over a good month.
Of course, Kyle: new MOCs are now receiving Likes appropriately, and have been for some time. But there are still a great many of us that submitted MOCs during the Crash whose Likes still don't register. You'll see that my VERY first Comment on this (2/28/12) reflected that Smileys were already 'Live' again, as my MOC had received 6 (after a slew went unregistered, and STILL do) - but even today 5/31/12, with 113 Ratings, maintaining a 5/5, this MOC http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/311119 still shows a '34'. My question to the Admins concerns whether Lost ratings will be restored. Thanks for your input, though, and I appreciate you trying to help. :)

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| May 31, 2012, 5:00 pm
Quoting Clever Crowe
My question to the Admins concerns whether Lost ratings will be restored. Thanks for your input, though, and I appreciate you trying to help. :)

They can't be restored.... :/
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| May 31, 2012, 5:02 pm
Quoting Kyle Peckham
They can't be restored.... :/

That... would be disappointing.
Where is it in NC you live, Kyle? (I'm near Asheville).
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| May 31, 2012, 5:04 pm
I had something strange happen today. I lost a like. I only noticed it because it was one of my top 3. The creation dropped from 95 to 94 smileys. It's not really a big deal, but I've just never seen that happen before in my entire time on the pages. Any clue what's up?
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| June 1, 2012, 5:25 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek
I had something strange happen today. I lost a like. I only noticed it because it was one of my top 3. The creation dropped from 95 to 94 smileys. It's not really a big deal, but I've just never seen that happen before in my entire time on the pages. Any clue what's up?

That's... odd. I don't think it's from anyone rating it a one or anything, for that doesn't seem to alter the like count. Perhaps someone changed their existing rating for whatever reason to below a 4 or 5?
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| June 1, 2012, 5:40 pm
Uhhh what's happened? On the pages? I've been inactive for maybe 3 months or so.
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| June 1, 2012, 8:56 pm
Quoting Will A.
Uhhh what's happened? On the pages? I've been inactive for maybe 3 months or so.


Glad to have you back! Might want to head over to the Special Elements Contest to finish things up. The deadline was a couple of months ago. ;)
-LB Senior
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| June 1, 2012, 9:09 pm
Quoting Lego Builders

Glad to have you back! Might want to head over to the Special Elements Contest to finish things up. The deadline was a couple of months ago. ;)
-LB Senior

Oops. School and baseball are hard to get by.
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| June 1, 2012, 9:31 pm
Quoting Lego Builders

Glad to have you back! Might want to head over to the Special Elements Contest to finish things up. The deadline was a couple of months ago. ;)
-LB Senior

Oops. School and baseball are hard to get by.
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| June 1, 2012, 9:31 pm
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