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If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.
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| February 6, 2014, 6:26 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.

I know this may be a dumb question, but what exactly is the age of an afol? I'm 17 now, but I'll be 18 by the time the competition starts. Does 18 still qualify as tfol?
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| February 6, 2014, 8:20 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.
Can we build entries before March 1st, and then upload them after March 1st?

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| February 6, 2014, 11:56 am
So, do I have this right? Each team doesn't have to build something for every single category, but just what they can manage, and they only get judged for what they did build?
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| February 6, 2014, 4:49 pm
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Quoting Jacob Pennington
I know this may be a dumb question, but what exactly is the age of an afol? I'm 17 now, but I'll be 18 by the time the competition starts. Does 18 still qualify as tfol?


If your birthday is before March 1st then you're considered an AFOL for the contest. If it's after, you're a TFOL.

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| February 6, 2014, 5:53 pm
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Quoting Aidan Frusher
Can we build entries before March 1st, and then upload them after March 1st?


I say again. Please READ the rules thread before asking questions. The answer to your question IS in the rules thread (about... halfway down, give or take).
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| February 6, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
So, do I have this right? Each team doesn't have to build something for every single category, but just what they can manage, and they only get judged for what they did build?


Correct. Only a few times has any team completed all 30 categories. But the more you complete (well) the more points your team scores.

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| February 6, 2014, 5:56 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

I say again. Please READ the rules thread before asking questions. The answer to your question IS in the rules thread (about... halfway down, give or take).
Thanks. I just missed I supose...

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| February 6, 2014, 6:02 pm
I just want to make sure be we CAN start making our teams now right?
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| February 6, 2014, 7:15 pm
What's the limit of team members?
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| February 6, 2014, 8:06 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
What's the limit of team members?

5.
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| February 6, 2014, 8:06 pm
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Quoting Timothy Post
I just want to make sure be we CAN start making our teams now right?


Of course. That's why we open the group so early.
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| February 6, 2014, 8:40 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

If your birthday is before March 1st then you're considered an AFOL for the contest. If it's after, you're a TFOL.

What dos AFOL stand for?
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| February 6, 2014, 8:44 pm
Okay, stup1d question, but I am organizing a team along with Alex Rode, and I wanted to know, does the team group's name need to go "2014 MocAthalon Team: Bronie Bros? Or can it just go "Bronie Bros?" (Please note, this is not the official name, just a rather feeble attempt at humor)
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| February 6, 2014, 8:45 pm
Quoting Legotier : )
What dos AFOL stand for?

Adult Fan of Lego. You are an AFOL.
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| February 6, 2014, 8:46 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Of course. That's why we open the group so early.

Ok thanks.
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| February 6, 2014, 9:00 pm
Is there a max for the number of team members we can have?
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| February 6, 2014, 10:01 pm
Chris, are you lacking a icon for the group, or have you just not uploaded it yet?
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| February 7, 2014, 6:02 am
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Quoting Mythical Griffin
Is there a max for the number of team members we can have?


Read the rules again please.
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| February 7, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Quoting Zach Lucia
Okay, stup1d question, but I am organizing a team along with Alex Rode, and I wanted to know, does the team group's name need to go "2014 MocAthalon Team: Bronie Bros? Or can it just go "Bronie Bros?" (Please note, this is not the official name, just a rather feeble attempt at humor)


There isn't a standard on that. Just as long as we know that it's a MocAthalon group we'll be good.

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| February 7, 2014, 5:18 pm
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Quoting Flare .
Chris, are you lacking a icon for the group, or have you just not uploaded it yet?


Still working on it...
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| February 7, 2014, 5:18 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

There isn't a standard on that. Just as long as we know that it's a MocAthalon group we'll be good.

Thanks! Now I can name the team!
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| February 7, 2014, 7:07 pm
Where do we announce our team when we get enough people? Will there be a thread for that?

EDIT: Seems that you've taken care of that.
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| February 8, 2014, 1:50 am
Is it allowed to use old Prototypes or Figs from your own Figbarfs as part of the moc?
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| February 11, 2014, 8:44 am
As there seems to not a lot of talk going on in the judges thread I will ask here... If someone perhaps hypothetically hasn't competed in the Mocathalon but knows how the game works. Would it be fine if they apply to judge or is that a 100% non flexible rule?
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| February 11, 2014, 9:25 pm
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Quoting Grant Davis
As there seems to not a lot of talk going on in the judges thread I will ask here... If someone perhaps hypothetically hasn't competed in the Mocathalon but knows how the game works. Would it be fine if they apply to judge or is that a 100% non flexible rule?



It's flexible... but not VERY flexible. It can't do the splits or anything but it could probably kick about chest high...
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| February 11, 2014, 10:06 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson


...it could probably kick about chest high...

Oh wow, that's more flexible then I've ever been.
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| February 11, 2014, 10:09 pm
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Quoting ~ Brick
Oh wow, that's more flexible then I've ever been.


Try Yoga. I never did, my personal techniques include ice skating and martial arts but I hear yoga is pretty good.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:54 pm
Will there be a "smack talk" thread like usual?
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| February 12, 2014, 10:23 pm
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Quoting Ben King
Will there be a "smack talk" thread like usual?


"smack" thread created. Smack talk away!
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| February 12, 2014, 11:14 pm
Quoting Matthew Oh

"smack" thread created. Smack talk away!

Thank you! :)
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| February 13, 2014, 6:48 am
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Quoting Dead Frog inc.
Is it allowed to use old Prototypes or Figs from your own Figbarfs as part of the moc?


Yes and No. Yes, to the Figs, you can use old figs. But No to the prototypes, everything built has to be made new.
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| February 13, 2014, 12:01 pm
I don't think anyone asked this yet, but. Can a team be less than 5 members?
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| February 13, 2014, 10:48 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights

Hello Crazycrownie Guy,

I fail to see why you would want a team with less than 5 members. The more members, the more builds. Which equals more points. Right?

With that said, all teams should try to reach there quota of five members. However, some leeway may be given if, for example, a teammate comes down with an illness.

Thanks greyson, I was only asking cause my team is having a hard time getting two more members.
CCG
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| February 13, 2014, 11:26 pm
Hey, where's the 'I need a team' thread?

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| February 13, 2014, 11:29 pm
Quoting Si MOCs
Hey, where's the 'I need a team' thread?


If you need a team we're two short and looking for members!

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| February 14, 2014, 12:13 am
Quoting Si MOCs
Hey, where's the 'I need a team' thread?

Oh Simon, there isn't a thread, merely a group.

http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/23657

Also, if you're interested for a team send me a FM, maybe jamesuniverse and a couple others can help with a team.
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| February 14, 2014, 12:31 am
AHHH it's a group! No wonder I didn't see it this year. I thought it was just a thread last year. I suppose I should have read the FAQ first :P

Thanks!
I'll look there.
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| February 14, 2014, 12:38 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.

Hello this may be stupid question but I was wondering can you have just 2 ppl on a team?
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| February 15, 2014, 5:40 pm
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Quoting The Smerf
Hello this may be stupid question but I was wondering can you have just 2 ppl on a team?

Sorry but a five person team is mandatory.
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| February 15, 2014, 5:54 pm
Can I have the list of judges So I can invite them to my team?
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| February 17, 2014, 11:13 am
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Quoting Timothy Post
Can I have the list of judges So I can invite them to my team?


Go to the group home, the admins of this years 2014 MocAthalon are the judges.
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| February 17, 2014, 11:15 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.

hey is Kevin anticipated to be the toughest judge again this year? =)
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| February 20, 2014, 5:57 pm
If I am working on a moc but have not published any sort of pictures of it yet, not even WIPs, and a category happens to fit what I was building, am I allowed to use it? I am guessing that I probably won't be able to use it, but I just want to make sure.
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| February 22, 2014, 4:24 pm
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Quoting Mr. Cab
If I am working on a moc but have not published any sort of pictures of it yet, not even WIPs, and a category happens to fit what I was building, am I allowed to use it? I am guessing that I probably won't be able to use it, but I just want to make sure.


No.
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| February 22, 2014, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Luke the Swift
hey is Kevin anticipated to be the toughest judge again this year? =)


Yes.
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| February 22, 2014, 10:21 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

No.

OK, thanks.
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| February 22, 2014, 10:47 pm
The photo editing question! Which of these are allowed for photo editing, if any: Color correction, removing background (making it white or another solid color), adding titles, adding more artistic backgrounds, adding effects

Could the main photo be edited and the rest of the photos remain as shot so just the moc is judged?
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| February 23, 2014, 1:06 pm
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Quoting Nick Brick
The photo editing question! Which of these are allowed for photo editing, if any: Color correction


No.


Quoting Nick Brick removing background (making it white or another solid color)


Yes.

Quoting Nick Brick
adding titles


Yes.

Quoting Nick Brick
adding more artistic backgrounds, adding effects. Could the main photo be edited and the rest of the photos remain as shot so just the moc is judged?


No.

Hope that helps, good luck!
~Chris.
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| February 23, 2014, 9:57 pm
Can entries into the Mocathlon count as freebuilds or challenge entries for the Lands of Mythron (http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/22392)? Just for clarification, the Lands of Mythron is a roleplaying game similar to Guilds of Historica on Eurobricks.
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| February 26, 2014, 8:38 pm
I know that pre-built full sized MOCs are against the rules, but what about small detail parts (such as http://www.flickr.com/photos/39070133@N03/7840096626/)?
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| February 27, 2014, 12:48 am
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Quoting Mr. Cab
Can entries into the Mocathlon count as freebuilds or challenge entries for the Lands of Mythron (http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/22392)? Just for clarification, the Lands of Mythron is a roleplaying game similar to Guilds of Historica on Eurobricks.

As long as your entry has the neccessary links and qualifications. Although you might want to avoid it, unless it pertains really well to the category it might end up losing you points.
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| February 27, 2014, 12:52 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

No.

Hope that helps, good luck!
~Chris.


Re: Photo editing

So basic house keeping color/lighting edits (lightening and balancing B/W and RGB in curves tool for instance) is off limits? Or is that not what you meant by color correction?

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| February 27, 2014, 1:03 am
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Quoting Legomania .
I know that pre-built full sized MOCs are against the rules, but what about small detail parts (such as http://www.flickr.com/photos/39070133@N03/7840096626/)?

Sorry but no, everything has to be built during the contest. Please dont use anything pre-built.
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| February 27, 2014, 1:04 am
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Quoting Brian Rinker

Re: Photo editing

So basic house keeping color/lighting edits (lightening and balancing B/W and RGB in curves tool for instance) is off limits? Or is that not what you meant by color correction?


The only thing you're allowed to use photoshop (or similar applications) for is to give your post a clean, single colored background behind the moc.

~Chris.
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| February 27, 2014, 2:30 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

The only thing you're allowed to use photoshop (or similar applications) for is to give your post a clean, single colored background behind the moc.

~Chris.

Perfectly clear. Thanks Chris.
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| February 27, 2014, 12:22 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

The only thing you're allowed to use photoshop (or similar applications) for is to give your post a clean, single colored background behind the moc.

~Chris.

And gaps? Say, if a blue dragon is shot on a red bed, but we really want to make a black background and the dragon has a gappy neck..?
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| February 27, 2014, 12:35 pm
Can minifigures that were made previous to the start of the contest be included in an entry?

EDIT: I found the answer in the thread. This may be an obvious question, but does the rule against older, unpublished WIPs cover brick-built figs?
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| February 27, 2014, 2:10 pm
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Quoting Deus "Big D." Otiosus
And gaps? Say, if a blue dragon is shot on a red bed, but we really want to make a black background and the dragon has a gappy neck..?


I would say yes. If you want to make it match the background, it wouldn't make sense to have these red gaps in his neck. As long as it is a part of the background.
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| February 27, 2014, 11:32 pm
I was wondering, (And I'll probably get a no, but it can't hurt to check) but can we enter a build that we started 2 days ago that matches a category perfectly?
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| February 28, 2014, 10:38 pm
Hey lets say I made a bed. If I broke it and built it again could I use it?
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| February 28, 2014, 10:42 pm
Sorry if someone said asked this already, or if you said so in the rules, but can I post multiple of my entry's in one post?
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| March 1, 2014, 1:53 am
Quoting Wolverine .
Sorry if someone said asked this already, or if you said so in the rules, but can I post multiple of my entry's in one post?

I think that would making it a lot harder for the judges to give scores.
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| March 1, 2014, 1:55 am
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Quoting Lindel Baskin
Can minifigures that were made previous to the start of the contest be included in an entry?

EDIT: I found the answer in the thread. This may be an obvious question, but does the rule against older, unpublished WIPs cover brick-built figs?


Yes it does.


Quoting David .
I was wondering, (And I'll probably get a no, but it can't hurt to check) but can we enter a build that we started 2 days ago that matches a category perfectly?


Nope.

Quoting Timothy Post
Hey lets say I made a bed. If I broke it and built it again could I use it?


No.


Quoting Wolverine .
Sorry if someone said asked this already, or if you said so in the rules, but can I post multiple of my entry's in one post?


No.



Ok... you guys are all in neat chat trying to come up with as many different ways as possible to ask the same question aren't you?
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| March 1, 2014, 5:10 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Yes it does.


Quoting David .
I was wondering, (And I'll probably get a no, but it can't hurt to check) but can we enter a build that we started 2 days ago that matches a category perfectly?


Nope.

Quoting Timothy Post
Hey lets say I made a bed. If I broke it and built it again could I use it?


No.


Quoting Wolverine .
Sorry if someone said asked this already, or if you said so in the rules, but can I post multiple of my entry's in one post?


No.



Ok... you guys are all in neat chat trying to come up with as many different ways as possible to ask the same question aren't you?

Ok thanks for answereing my question.

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| March 1, 2014, 9:02 am
So, for the "Everything is Awesome" category, are you looking for just a one photo build, or it can have multiple photos, but in all of them you can only see LEGOs?
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| March 1, 2014, 10:04 am
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Quoting Graham Gidman
So, for the "Everything is Awesome" category, are you looking for just a one photo build, or it can have multiple photos, but in all of them you can only see LEGOs?


As many pics as you want but the only thing that can be visible is Lego. We're really looking for a "totally immersive world" thing here so it's highly suggested that you have someone with a large collection tackle this one. An 8x8 vig (while acceptable within the rules) probably isn't going to score very high verses something on a couple of 48x48 baseplates.
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| March 1, 2014, 10:15 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
As many pics as you want but the only thing that can be visible is Lego. We're really looking for a "totally immersive world" thing here so it's highly suggested that you have someone with a large collection tackle this one. An 8x8 vig (while acceptable within the rules) probably isn't going to score very high verses something on a couple of 48x48 baseplates.
Yeah, that might be the only reason why I can't do it. My collection, is, well... could use some improving. :P
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| March 1, 2014, 10:16 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Yes it does.


Quoting David .
I was wondering, (And I'll probably get a no, but it can't hurt to check) but can we enter a build that we started 2 days ago that matches a category perfectly?


Nope.

Quoting Timothy Post
Hey lets say I made a bed. If I broke it and built it again could I use it?


No.


Quoting Wolverine .
Sorry if someone said asked this already, or if you said so in the rules, but can I post multiple of my entry's in one post?


No.



Ok... you guys are all in neat chat trying to come up with as many different ways as possible to ask the same question aren't you?

Sorry.
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| March 1, 2014, 12:27 pm
For the civilian mecha category would construction, police and rescue themes work?
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| March 1, 2014, 2:18 pm
In the "Bookends" category, do they the bookends have to have some connection to the book they're holding up?
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| March 1, 2014, 2:22 pm
Is there an absolute minimum to the number of categories to be posted per team? If so what is it?
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| March 1, 2014, 3:12 pm
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Quoting Garett Smith
For the civilian mecha category would construction, police and rescue themes work?


yes

Quoting Graham Gidman
In the "Bookends" category, do they the bookends have to have some connection to the book they're holding up?


no

Quoting Anthony Wilson
Is there an absolute minimum to the number of categories to be posted per team? If so what is it?


no
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| March 1, 2014, 3:48 pm
For the descriptions, do we put the category and the team name in the introduction box below the title, or in the beginning of the description where you put the html photos?
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| March 1, 2014, 3:49 pm
Also for the civilian mech does a mini fig have to fit inside or can I just use the head of a figure to make it seem like the fig is inside?
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| March 1, 2014, 4:07 pm
Is it too late to join?
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| March 1, 2014, 5:37 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
For the descriptions, do we put the category and the team name in the introduction box below the title, or in the beginning of the description where you put the html photos?


Beginning of the description


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| March 1, 2014, 7:47 pm
Quoting Matthew Oh

Beginning of the description


Since there is only five members in a team how many category's do we have to do or can we just do one?
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| March 1, 2014, 7:48 pm
Quoting Mitchell Long
Since there is only five members in a team how many category's do we have to do or can we just do one?

Since there are only five members, you could divide it up by giving each member six categories, and build for each.
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| March 1, 2014, 7:55 pm
For the Video Game category, does it have to be aspecific scene from the game, or modeled directly out of a place in the game?

Also we won't get any less points if the game isn't well known, will we? :/
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| March 1, 2014, 9:49 pm
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Quoting David .
For the Video Game category, does it have to be aspecific scene from the game, or modeled directly out of a place in the game?

Also we won't get any less points if the game isn't well known, will we? :/


Since I made this category, I would love to see a scene from the game, but it is open to your own interpretation.

No, you won't get less points, it would make it more interesting! :) I would love to see a link to like a description of the game, so we can know more about it though.
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| March 1, 2014, 9:53 pm
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Quoting Mitchell Long
Since there is only five members in a team how many category's do we have to do or can we just do one?


You can do as many as time allows, your team doesn't have to enter every category, that rarely happens.
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| March 1, 2014, 9:54 pm
For the M.C. Escher category, could I combine his works into one build?
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| March 1, 2014, 10:33 pm
For the Pair dare category, can we make a mosaic? If so, will points be docked?
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| March 2, 2014, 12:32 am
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Quoting Garett Smith
Also for the civilian mech does a mini fig have to fit inside or can I just use the head of a figure to make it seem like the fig is inside?


My category so I'll answer this. In the description it does ask for a mech and a pilot so I'd like to see the mech fit a figure please!
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| March 2, 2014, 4:28 am
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Quoting Garett Smith
For the civilian mecha category would construction, police and rescue themes work?

Those are certainly the kind of things I was thinking of for that category, but I reckon there is potential for silliness in there too if you want - flower-arranging mech anyone?
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| March 2, 2014, 4:32 am
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Quoting Mr. Cab
For the Pair dare category, can we make a mosaic? If so, will points be docked?

A mosaic would be fine. No points will be docked but it simply may not score as highly as a build with a lot more innovation in the use of its two elements.
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| March 2, 2014, 4:36 am
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Quoting Stephen Boe
For the M.C. Escher category, could I combine his works into one build?


As I made this category, I will answer this. Yes, that's totally fine! I still want to see how it is related to M.C. Escher though, it has to be recognizable as his, and not just "optical illusion like" creations. Have fun with this category, but stay well within the boundaries that fit Escher. I look forward to the builds!
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| March 2, 2014, 8:15 am
Hey Matthew, regarding the Escher category, are you looking strictly for his optical illusion work or would his abstracts and woodcuts work as well? I guess my question is, is it the op art or the Artist your focus?
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| March 2, 2014, 9:46 am
Sorry Phipson...but can we use any vehicles that we have previously modified (before the MA) and that were barely shown in a creation?
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| March 2, 2014, 11:09 am
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Quoting Mythical Griffin
Sorry Phipson...but can we use any vehicles that we have previously modified (before the MA) and that were barely shown in a creation?

No, If it was built before the contest started you cant use it.
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| March 2, 2014, 11:17 am
For a build that we make new for this, can we use it for other groups after? Say I make a dragon and then use it for LCC of LOM.
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| March 2, 2014, 11:20 am
Quoting Ian ...
For a build that we make new for this, can we use it for other groups after? Say I make a dragon and then use it for LCC of LOM.

This is my question too.
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| March 2, 2014, 11:27 am
Quoting Ian ...
For a build that we make new for this, can we use it for other groups after? Say I make a dragon and then use it for LCC of LOM.

I asked this question previously. The answer: http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23656&topicid=94202#comment-1349515
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| March 2, 2014, 12:05 pm
Quoting Mr. Cab
I asked this question previously. The answer: http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23656&topicid=94202#comment-1349515

Thanks.
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| March 2, 2014, 12:10 pm
Do we need to add a link to the 2014 MocAthalon group in the description of our entries?
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| March 2, 2014, 6:32 pm
Quoting Ian ...
Thanks.

Y' welcome.
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| March 2, 2014, 8:09 pm
Would my entry's score for the Rube Goldberg machine be seriously effected if I don't include a video on how it works? I'm too young to get an YouTube account of a Flickr account. Unless there's another way...
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| March 2, 2014, 8:16 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights

Well not exactly, although it is easier for everyone if you include a video. Just take a simple look at the official category description for the Rube Goldberg Machine for more information:

<<<< Quote
...While it is NOT required to show a video of your contraption working, it would REALLY help if you did. If you are unable to provide a video you MUST include as many pictures as possible showing your creation working at every stage.


sigh ~puts face in hands~
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| March 2, 2014, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Brian Rinker
Do we need to add a link to the 2014 MocAthalon group in the description of our entries?


Yes please put a link back to the main group in your post.
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| March 2, 2014, 9:56 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights

I think what he means is would it affect your score if you didn't. It says it isn't required, but that doesn't mean one judge may dock points because there wasn't a video.
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| March 2, 2014, 11:41 pm
For the "Go for the Gold" category can I make up a pretend Winter Olympic sport?
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| March 2, 2014, 11:43 pm
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Quoting Legomania .
For the "Go for the Gold" category can I make up a pretend Winter Olympic sport?


Nope. Real Olympic events please.
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| March 3, 2014, 12:44 am
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Quoting David .
I think what he means is would it affect your score if you didn't. It says it isn't required, but that doesn't mean one judge may dock points because there wasn't a video.


As it's not "required" then no, you wouldn't be deducted points.

But again, if it's at all possible it would REALLY help so that we can see that your creation actually works.
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| March 3, 2014, 12:44 am
Quoting Chi Warrior

sigh ~puts face in hands~
See

Quoting Chris Phipson

As it's not "required" then no, you wouldn't be deducted points.

But again, if it's at all possible it would REALLY help so that we can see that your creation actually works.
Thanks! :)

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| March 3, 2014, 1:00 am
What are the judging points? What number out of what number?

Example: 1 out of 5?
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| March 3, 2014, 7:51 am
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Quoting Reynolds .
What are the judging points? What number out of what number?

Example: 1 out of 5?


This was answered in the rules thread, but yes, 1 to 5.
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| March 3, 2014, 7:59 am
For the tube Goldberg category, are we allowed to use "unofficial" string and elastics? As in elastics and string that aren't from a specific Lego set?

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| March 3, 2014, 8:37 am
Question about monochrome: can the red light brick, a trans red piece with a dark bley base and light bley button, be used on a trans red build?

EDIT: Let me generalize the question to avoid more people asking. Pieces with multiple colors or a print on it are or are not allowed in the Monochrome category?
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| March 3, 2014, 9:54 am
For the pair dare, does a baseplate count as one of the two pieces?
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| March 3, 2014, 12:49 pm
A question about the "Everything is Awesome" category:

With the amount of building we might be doing this month, is it permissable to use previously made, for this contest, enrties to add to the all-Lego world needed for the category?

An example: If I created an all-medieval world with castles, fields and the like, would it be okay to add my serf from the "Serf's up!" category in one area, as well as my dragon from "How to train your dragon" battling the Narina characters from that category somewhere else, or must EVERYTHING be not only awesome, but original as well?
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| March 3, 2014, 1:01 pm
Can I re do my first entry?
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| March 3, 2014, 2:19 pm
Quoting Wolverine .
Can I re do my first entry?


Lol, I don't think so, especially since it's already been judged.

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| March 3, 2014, 2:44 pm
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Quoting Tim S
For the tube Goldberg category, are we allowed to use "unofficial" string and elastics? As in elastics and string that aren't from a specific Lego set?

Yes you can - the build doesn't have to be purist and that category lends itself well to integrating non-lego items so string and elastic as raw materials are fine.
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| March 3, 2014, 4:18 pm
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Quoting Alex Rode
For the pair dare, does a baseplate count as one of the two pieces?

I asked the same question when I got this category in the MOCOlympics and was told yes, a baseplate would count as one of the two pieces so we'll stick with that decision.
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| March 3, 2014, 4:27 pm
Quoting Delatron 3000
I asked the same question when I got this category in the MOCOlympics and was told yes, a baseplate would count as one of the two pieces so we'll stick with that decision.

Okay, good to know. Thanks!
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| March 3, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Quoting Nick Brick
Question about monochrome: can the red light brick, a trans red piece with a dark bley base and light bley button, be used on a trans red build?

EDIT: Let me generalize the question to avoid more people asking. Pieces with multiple colors or a print on it are or are not allowed in the Monochrome category?

Good question which I hadn't thought about. As we are being very strict on the single colour rule, I'd have to say no to multi coloured elements and prints.

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| March 3, 2014, 4:38 pm
Would a security mech work for "Civilian Mecha"?
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| March 3, 2014, 4:59 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
Would a security mech work for "Civilian Mecha"?


Non-military, so sure, security would work fine. I think the trick is to make sure it isn't loaded down with lots of weapons anyway but just badged as security - make it fit the role.

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| March 3, 2014, 5:10 pm
Can people in a group do the categories twice? Like 2 people in a group make a moc for the same category?
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| March 3, 2014, 5:24 pm
Quoting Elite Brigadier Callum (Darth Jovan)
Can people in a group do the categories twice? Like 2 people in a group make a moc for the same category?


Callum, go back and read the rules. No, no duplication of categories. [Ess]
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| March 3, 2014, 5:25 pm
If the Rube Goldberg Machine is not color coded will it affect our score?
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| March 3, 2014, 6:25 pm
We'll if you had notified people about it maybe I wouldn't be pestering people with questions and dont tell me that you had told me because I check my page EVERYDAY!!!
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| March 3, 2014, 6:55 pm
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Quoting Legomania .
If the Rube Goldberg Machine is not color coded will it affect our score?


It couldn't hurt to have it color coded, however the focus is more on the machine and what it can do so the quick answer is no it would not hurt your score.
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| March 3, 2014, 7:30 pm
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Quoting Delatron 3000
Good question which I hadn't thought about. As we are being very strict on the single colour rule, I'd have to say no to multi coloured elements and prints.


Agreed.
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| March 3, 2014, 10:00 pm
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Quoting Wolverine .
Can I re do my first entry?


Ummm... no.
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| March 3, 2014, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...
A question about the "Everything is Awesome" category:

With the amount of building we might be doing this month, is it permissable to use previously made, for this contest, enrties to add to the all-Lego world needed for the category?

An example: If I created an all-medieval world with castles, fields and the like, would it be okay to add my serf from the "Serf's up!" category in one area, as well as my dragon from "How to train your dragon" battling the Narina characters from that category somewhere else, or must EVERYTHING be not only awesome, but original as well?


As it does say "each moc must be a new and unique build" I'm going to say no. But a good question and thanks for asking.
~Chris.
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| March 3, 2014, 10:03 pm
Quoting Tyler Berry
We'll if you had notified people about it maybe I wouldn't be pestering people with questions and dont tell me that you had told me because I check my page EVERYDAY!!!

This is a very large contest with a big reputation, and people usually find it on their own if they have heard of it before, or through theirs or others' activity bars. Or if someone invites you to be on their team. It's sad that you discovered it late and could not compete, but nobody has the responsibility of telling other people about it, so it isn't anyone's fault that you didn't know of this contest.
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| March 3, 2014, 10:44 pm
OK, I have a rather complicated question. For the future tech category, I am making something that actually works, utilizing mindstorms. However, because it does, in fact, work, would it still be future tech? It does look futuristic, or it will when I am done, but because it actually works, isn't it the tech of the present, not the future? Will I be docked points or even DQd for lack of category relevance for that? I hope not...
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| March 3, 2014, 11:04 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Ummm... no.

*Looks at toe's a while* Okay. Thank you.
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| March 3, 2014, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Mr. Cab
OK, I have a rather complicated question. For the future tech category, I am making something that actually works, utilizing mindstorms. However, because it does, in fact, work, would it still be future tech? It does look futuristic, or it will when I am done, but because it actually works, isn't it the tech of the present, not the future? Will I be docked points or even DQd for lack of category relevance for that? I hope not...


That is a complicated question...

I'll put it in the judges group for discussion and we'll get back to you as soon as possible.

~Chris.
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| March 3, 2014, 11:59 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

That is a complicated question...

I'll put it in the judges group for discussion and we'll get back to you as soon as possible.

~Chris.

I think I was maybe a bit vague in my question, so in case additional information is needed, I am making a robotic upper arm with some articulated joints...
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| March 4, 2014, 9:33 am
So I'm building, um, something that has to do with the ocean....and it involves pirates. Does anyone know example of some "good" pirate MOCs, and I can't seem to find any.
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| March 4, 2014, 9:20 pm
Quoting ~ Brick
So I'm building, um, something that has to do with the ocean....and it involves pirates. Does anyone know example of some "good" pirate MOCs, and I can't seem to find any.

Here man. These should help.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=295504
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| March 4, 2014, 9:25 pm
Quoting Zach Lucia
Here man. These should help.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=295504

Thanks.
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| March 4, 2014, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Mr. Cab
OK, I have a rather complicated question. For the future tech category, I am making something that actually works, utilizing mindstorms. However, because it does, in fact, work, would it still be future tech? It does look futuristic, or it will when I am done, but because it actually works, isn't it the tech of the present, not the future? Will I be docked points or even DQd for lack of category relevance for that? I hope not...

Alright I think it's about time I answer your question. When I made this category I was just thinking about something that looks futuristic, with all the cool greebles lights and buttons and such. So long as your build looks futuristic we will not dock points, if anything mind storm functions would enhance the build.
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| March 5, 2014, 1:02 am
Aloha!
Are you allowed to upload three creations on one day? Becourse Ive been very busy building, and had no time to photograph the models.
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| March 5, 2014, 8:07 am
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Quoting Dead Frog inc.
Aloha!
Are you allowed to upload three creations on one day? Becourse Ive been very busy building, and had no time to photograph the models.


Of course. We don't care how many posts are added each day. The only restriction is that ALL posts must be added to the group before the cutoff of March 30th.

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| March 5, 2014, 8:13 am
Quoting Justin Knelsen
Alright I think it's about time I answer your question. When I made this category I was just thinking about something that looks futuristic, with all the cool greebles lights and buttons and such. So long as your build looks futuristic we will not dock points, if anything mind storm functions would enhance the build.

Yay! Thanks. :D
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| March 5, 2014, 10:46 am
For the category, "You're Busted", can I make up my own character? I'm not sure if you guys mean an existing fictional character, or one from my imagination.
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| March 5, 2014, 7:09 pm
So for the "Story Tower" category, does it have to tell a story or just be themed. The description does say it can be themed...
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| March 5, 2014, 7:48 pm
Could someone do a cuban for the busted category?
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| March 5, 2014, 7:58 pm
Quoting Mister Lego ~
For the category, "You're Busted", can I make up my own character? I'm not sure if you guys mean an existing fictional character, or one from my imagination.

I think it can be a real character too... Anything from your sibling to the president. I am not a judge though, so my answer wouldn't necessarily be the one to go on.
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| March 5, 2014, 8:20 pm
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Quoting Wolverine .
Could someone do a cuban for the busted category?


If you're talking about the Lego "Cube dude" concept, then no. We're looking for something lifelike.
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| March 6, 2014, 5:33 am
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Quoting Masked Builder
So for the "Story Tower" category, does it have to tell a story or just be themed. The description does say it can be themed...


Themed is fine by me. For example a LOTR tower with different scenes would be acceptable. It doesn't have to tell an actual narrative.

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| March 6, 2014, 5:34 am
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Quoting Mister Lego ~
For the category, "You're Busted", can I make up my own character? I'm not sure if you guys mean an existing fictional character, or one from my imagination.


While it may be allowed within the exact letter of the rules, I'd strongly advise against it. Try to stick to "known" figures. And yes, technically it's acceptable to use a friend or family member of yours but again... without being able to recognize who we're looking at your score could be easily effected.
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| March 6, 2014, 5:37 am
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Please keep this thread for questions and answers only. Thanks
~Chris.
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| March 6, 2014, 8:49 am
For redesign a classic lego set will you be looking at what we did with the set or how big the set was we redesigned?
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| March 6, 2014, 8:57 am
A question about the monochromatic build:

The goal of the category is to build using only one colour, this I understand. However, is it possible to utilize the negative 'white space' as part of the build? If I were using blue as my building colour, but needed to outline something, thus requiring the white space to make it work, would I be DQ'd for using a 'second' colour, or do only the bricks themselves count?
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| March 6, 2014, 9:39 am
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Quoting Timothy Post
For redesign a classic lego set will you be looking at what we did with the set or how big the set was we redesigned?


More of what you did with it. As a great mind once said "Size matters not."
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| March 6, 2014, 4:18 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...
A question about the monochromatic build:

The goal of the category is to build using only one colour, this I understand. However, is it possible to utilize the negative 'white space' as part of the build? If I were using blue as my building colour, but needed to outline something, thus requiring the white space to make it work, would I be DQ'd for using a 'second' colour, or do only the bricks themselves count?


We'll have a judges discussion on this and get back to ya.

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| March 6, 2014, 4:20 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

More of what you did with it. As a great mind once said "Size matters not."

Ok thanks.
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| March 6, 2014, 5:15 pm
Looking over the thread, I'm not seeing this mentioned anywhere.

What are your guys' thoughts on removing trans-clear stands on a build to make it appear to float/fly/ect, ect.

I'd assume it'd be a no go, but I just wanted to check in case it's not!

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| March 6, 2014, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...
A question about the monochromatic build:

The goal of the category is to build using only one colour, this I understand. However, is it possible to utilize the negative 'white space' as part of the build? If I were using blue as my building colour, but needed to outline something, thus requiring the white space to make it work, would I be DQ'd for using a 'second' colour, or do only the bricks themselves count?


As long as you use one color of bricks, you're good. Using negative space is accepted, and encouraged.
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| March 6, 2014, 11:09 pm
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Quoting Lego Junkie
Looking over the thread, I'm not seeing this mentioned anywhere.

What are your guys' thoughts on removing trans-clear stands on a build to make it appear to float/fly/ect, ect.

I'd assume it'd be a no go, but I just wanted to check in case it's not!


You are right, it's a no go. No photoshop but cleaning the background to make it neat, no erasing of parts of the moc.
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| March 6, 2014, 11:11 pm
Quoting Matthew Oh

Matthew I note that you have given me a score for my build http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/382868. However, I haven't yet added it to the MocAthalon group. I was waiting for feedback from my team before committing it. I don't think it is a big deal, as I'm pretty sure it is going as is, although I did consider adding an extra in situ photo to show scale.

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| March 7, 2014, 1:40 am
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Quoting David Alexander Smith

Matthew I note that you have given me a score for my build http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/382868. However, I haven't yet added it to the MocAthalon group. I was waiting for feedback from my team before committing it. I don't think it is a big deal, as I'm pretty sure it is going as is, although I did consider adding an extra in situ photo to show scale.


(facepalm) I'm so sorry David Alexander Smith, in my tiredness, I must have thought that I saw it in the group. Comment deleted. Sorry for the trouble! I will recomment of you like it and add it to the group.
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| March 7, 2014, 8:55 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
Hey Matthew, regarding the Escher category, are you looking strictly for his optical illusion work or would his abstracts and woodcuts work as well? I guess my question is, is it the op art or the Artist your focus?


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| March 7, 2014, 9:57 am
Quoting Matthew Oh

As long as you use one color of bricks, you're good. Using negative space is accepted, and encouraged.


Thank you sir.
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| March 7, 2014, 10:51 am
For "Redesign a Classic LEGO Set", do we need to follow the original set exactly just newer designs, or is there a lot of room for interpretation?
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| March 7, 2014, 12:23 pm
Will there be a thread for periodically updating the standings?
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| March 7, 2014, 2:34 pm
Would it be okay if for the Rube Goldberg machine we made a themed contraption? For example would a Hobbit themed build be allowed?
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| March 7, 2014, 3:58 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights
I believe it can any piece, as long as it is by Escher. ;)

Thank you Greyson.
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| March 8, 2014, 12:13 am
Can we make decals and put them on our builds?
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| March 8, 2014, 1:07 pm
Can I build more than one thing for the future tech category?
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| March 8, 2014, 7:49 pm
This is a complicated question, for "Video Game", could I not actually make a scene of the game, but instead the game itself; like, it won't be a scene FROM the game, it will be the KIND of game?
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| March 8, 2014, 7:57 pm
Ok so, I posted a creation, but I wanna add my name to the main photo. Can I?
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| March 9, 2014, 4:36 pm
For the "MOC's of Futures Past" category, after I show the screenshot I have chosen and built to enter, may I include a few other screenshots from the scene (Not in a story fashion) since I already have the MOC built? It would be a shame to waste it like that. Thanks!
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| March 9, 2014, 7:23 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
For "Redesign a Classic LEGO Set", do we need to follow the original set exactly just newer designs, or is there a lot of room for interpretation?


There is lots of room for interpretation but we should still be able to easily recognize it as an "update" of that set.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:48 pm
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Quoting Fraser Robinson
Would it be okay if for the Rube Goldberg machine we made a themed contraption? For example would a Hobbit themed build be allowed?


As long as the machine works, I'm good with you making it into a theme.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:49 pm
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Quoting Peter (Aka. Guy smiley)
Can we make decals and put them on our builds?


Sure, just make sure they're good. While it's not a "purist" contest by any stretch, sloppy stickers will reflect worse on your score than sloppy building. Take care in how you use custom parts.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Chi Warrior
Can I build more than one thing for the future tech category?


That one's kinda tricky... Basically, no. However, if you're building say (using today's tech as an example) an iphone that plugs into a laptop then you could build both the phone and computer. If the items are not related then no, only one item.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
This is a complicated question, for "Video Game", could I not actually make a scene of the game, but instead the game itself; like, it won't be a scene FROM the game, it will be the KIND of game?


For this category we are looking for a screen capture scene from the game.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:55 pm
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Quoting Matt W.
Ok so, I posted a creation, but I wanna add my name to the main photo. Can I?


Thank you for asking and yes you may.
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| March 9, 2014, 11:56 pm
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Quoting George Marshall
For the "MOC's of Futures Past" category, after I show the screenshot I have chosen and built to enter, may I include a few other screenshots from the scene (Not in a story fashion) since I already have the MOC built? It would be a shame to waste it like that. Thanks!


Here's my opinion on this one... What I'd prefer you do is hold on to those extra pics... wait until AFTER we've judged the main moc (all the judges) and then come back and remind me/us of this question. Once it's been judged and you come back and ask to add photos that are NOT part of the entry, then we'll allow you to add those pics.

Just to avoid confusion during judging. You gotta remember, we're judging hundreds of entries here and something like that may lead to some confusion. So just to be safe and make sure you get the score it deserves...

~Chris.
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| March 10, 2014, 12:01 am
Hey, just a quick thing I noticed: This MOC http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/383210 was entered into the MocAthalon group, yet it isn't added to its team group, doesn't include a team name, does not list the category, and doesn't include a link to the contest homepage. Even with all this info missing, it has still been judged. According to the rules, if an entry lacks any of the aforementioned facts, it won't be judged. Eh, just thought I'd point that out....
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| March 10, 2014, 2:01 am
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Quoting Elliott Feldman
Hey, just a quick thing I noticed:


Yes Elliott, I noticed that. I did leave a comment within my judgment as to the category missing. I also commented in their team group and explained everything that needed to be added.

We are about... 24 hours from not being so forgiving on these missing items. We always go easy the first week or so (yes, I know we're at about 10 days now) with gentle reminders.

I'll be making a "judges announcement" thread in the next couple of days and that will be right at the top of the list of things that players need to know.

Thanks,
~Chris.
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| March 10, 2014, 2:31 am
Will there be a thread for entries that scored all fives like there was last Mocathlon?
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| March 10, 2014, 9:24 am
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Quoting Nick Brick
Will there be a thread for periodically updating the standings?

I'll do my best to do this, though it might be more a top 10 than a complete list and I suspect it will swing wildly in the last week of the contest!
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| March 11, 2014, 5:27 am
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Quoting Mr. Cab
Will there be a thread for entries that scored all fives like there was last Mocathlon?


Once again, I'll do my best for this too!

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| March 11, 2014, 5:28 am
Can I join a group after the contest has started?
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| March 11, 2014, 6:56 am
Quoting LEGO FAN
Can I join a group after the contest has started?

No, you cannot.
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| March 11, 2014, 7:33 am
I have a question, could we do decimal scores next year? Because, sometimes you judge people's MOCs and say "a high 3" but it doesn't change it from being a 3.
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| March 11, 2014, 7:34 am
Quoting ~ Calvin ~
No, you cannot.

Can't I even replace someone who dropped out?
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| March 11, 2014, 9:18 am
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Quoting ~ Calvin ~
I have a question, could we do decimal scores next year? Because, sometimes you judge people's MOCs and say "a high 3" but it doesn't change it from being a 3.


Well that would be Chris' decision, but as current scorekeeper I would say no!

Consider them grades, rather than a percentage score. That 'high 3' (and not everybody leaves those comments) is a C, but with the encouragement to try a bit harder and it could be a B next time. It's not a C.5 ;)

I would suggest it would make scoring a much bigger chore - essentially, what you are doing is opening up the scoring scale from 5 options to 50 options, but they would still be subject to a judge's opinions and interpretations, not a hard-and-fast scoring criteria.

Now multiply that by the potential 700+ MOCs which require a score from five judges. Add to that the extra load on the scorekeeper, divide by the potential for further whining - "why did judge x give a 3.2 and judge y a 3.8?" - and then subtract any enjoyment that the judges may get from viewing the creations as it is now a far more complex, laborious task.

Result? A massive pain. The judges as always are volunteers and we do this on our own time for a fan-run contest, often at different times or days as we are all around the world so it's difficult to come to any consensus. It is quite a job already and while I am sure everyone playing would love a greater degree of score breakdown to further compare their work to somebody elses, practically it is better for us to work on a 1-5 system.
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| March 11, 2014, 10:34 am
Quoting Delatron 3000


Exactly my opinion. If there were decimal scores, there would have to be more complex judging criteria.
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| March 11, 2014, 11:06 am
Quoting Delatron 3000

Well that would be Chris' decision, but as current scorekeeper I would say no!

Consider them grades, rather than a percentage score. That 'high 3' (and not everybody leaves those comments) is a C, but with the encouragement to try a bit harder and it could be a B next time. It's not a C.5 ;)

I would suggest it would make scoring a much bigger chore - essentially, what you are doing is opening up the scoring scale from 5 options to 50 options, but they would still be subject to a judge's opinions and interpretations, not a hard-and-fast scoring criteria.

Now multiply that by the potential 700+ MOCs which require a score from five judges. Add to that the extra load on the scorekeeper, divide by the potential for further whining - "why did judge x give a 3.2 and judge y a 3.8?" - and then subtract any enjoyment that the judges may get from viewing the creations as it is now a far more complex, laborious task.

Result? A massive pain. The judges as always are volunteers and we do this on our own time for a fan-run contest, often at different times or days as we are all around the world so it's difficult to come to any consensus. It is quite a job already and while I am sure everyone playing would love a greater degree of score breakdown to further compare their work to somebody elses, practically it is better for us to work on a 1-5 system.

Wait, you're not a judge?
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| March 11, 2014, 12:57 pm
Would it be okay if for a forced perspective if I used a blue background for the sky, but everything else it LEGO?
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| March 11, 2014, 2:33 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
Wait, you're not a judge?

No, I believe he is the scorekeeper.
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| March 11, 2014, 3:30 pm
Quoting Delatron 3000

Now multiply that by the potential 700+ MOCs which require a score from five judges.


It might have been mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to locate it: there are a total of five judges correct? So each MOC could reach a total of 25?

A "yup" or "no way sucka!" answer will suffice.
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| March 11, 2014, 4:02 pm
This is mostly for clarification.

I have an entry done, but before I officially submit it I would like to make sure that my use of this image:

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=383330&id=/user_images/107907/1394566806m

is OK.

I wasn't sure since it is not editing the build to make it better, merely showing a function. If it is still against the rules I can easily remove it and just provide a link from my Flickr for the judges to use.

Thanks for your time!
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| March 11, 2014, 4:21 pm
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Quoting Brian Rinker
This is mostly for clarification.

I have an entry done, but before I officially submit it I would like to make sure that my use of this image:

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=383330&id=/user_images/107907/1394566806m

is OK.

I wasn't sure since it is not editing the build to make it better, merely showing a function. If it is still against the rules I can easily remove it and just provide a link from my Flickr for the judges to use.

Thanks for your time!

Yep that's ok.
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| March 11, 2014, 4:50 pm
Second question (and I do apologies if this is a repeat, I've tried to keep up with the question thread but it is quite lengthy D:)

I have an entry for the Pair Dare category finished, and for presentation purposes I have it leaned up against a PAB cup so I can show an alternate angle/the underside. I just want to make sure that the PAB wouldn't count as a 3rd type of "piece."

If you guys are against it though I'm fine retaking photographs with another object as a prop.

As always, huge thanks to you guys!
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| March 11, 2014, 5:34 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...

It might have been mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to locate it: there are a total of five judges correct? So each MOC could reach a total of 25?

A "yup" or "no way sucka!" answer will suffice.


Yup! I will not be giving scores, just keeping them, so 25 is the max score per moc.
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| March 11, 2014, 5:42 pm
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Quoting Kevin Moyer
No, I believe he is the scorekeeper.


Correct! Somebody had to do it. I got to contribute some categories, and I think they have been well received which is great - I'm very eager to see what entries we get for them. I have also tried to field questions and so on, but I will not be leaving scores. I will try to comment when I can though.

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| March 11, 2014, 5:54 pm
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Quoting Brian Rinker
Second question (and I do apologies if this is a repeat, I've tried to keep up with the question thread but it is quite lengthy D:)

I have an entry for the Pair Dare category finished, and for presentation purposes I have it leaned up against a PAB cup so I can show an alternate angle/the underside. I just want to make sure that the PAB wouldn't count as a 3rd type of "piece."

If you guys are against it though I'm fine retaking photographs with another object as a prop.

As always, huge thanks to you guys!


I don't see a problem with it. As long as it's clear that the cup is just a prop and not a part of the build for presentation (such as a baseplate as we have been asked about before) then it shouldn't be an issue.
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| March 11, 2014, 6:03 pm
Quoting Justin Knelsen
Yep that's ok.


Quoting Delatron 3000

I don't see a problem with it. As long as it's clear that the cup is just a prop and not a part of the build for presentation (such as a baseplate as we have been asked about before) then it shouldn't be an issue.


Thank you both!

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| March 11, 2014, 6:07 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
Would it be okay if for a forced perspective if I used a blue background for the sky, but everything else it LEGO?

A blue backdrop is fine.
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| March 11, 2014, 6:11 pm
For “Everything is Awesome", we can still use flashlights and such to create lighting effects and such, just no photoshop and such?
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| March 12, 2014, 12:48 am
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Quoting Stephen Boe
For “Everything is Awesome", we can still use flashlights and such to create lighting effects and such, just no photoshop and such?


Using flashlights and such to create lighting effects and such would be fine and such but the only thing visible should be Lego and such. But yes, no photoshop and such.

(sorry, couldn't help myself. It's been a long night...)
~Chris.
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| March 12, 2014, 1:24 am
I've seen Matthew Oh judge other people's entries after mine, but he still hasn't judged mine.

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/382923
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| March 12, 2014, 7:15 am
Can I use an old moc? XD Okay, in all seriousness, for the Rube Goldberg build, it is becoming apparent that this will take up quite a bit of space in the matt cave. I have a LARGE moc, uhthankyouverymuch, that does NOT move easily. If the particular contraption in development passes "through" said moc without actually using the moc as a part of the contraption, would that be alright?
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| March 12, 2014, 11:42 am
For "Everything is Awesome", is it just the first pic that has to be all LEGO, or is it all of them?
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| March 12, 2014, 6:45 pm
Would adding a LDD file so that the judges can look at the techniques I used possibly bump up my score?
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| March 13, 2014, 12:48 am
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Quoting matt rowntRee
Can I use an old moc? XD Okay, in all seriousness, for the Rube Goldberg build, it is becoming apparent that this will take up quite a bit of space in the matt cave. I have a LARGE moc, uhthankyouverymuch, that does NOT move easily. If the particular contraption in development passes "through" said moc without actually using the moc as a part of the contraption, would that be alright?


Absolutely, that would be fine.

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| March 13, 2014, 2:20 am
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Quoting Graham Gidman
For "Everything is Awesome", is it just the first pic that has to be all LEGO, or is it all of them?


We would like to see a few pics that are "all cinclusive only" but if you'd like to show a few shots in the (what I like to call) the "Fourth Wall Commentary" area to show some of the "behind the scenes" stuff then that would be fine. Just be sure it's CLEAR that the presentation of the "entry" is over and we're in the "behind the scenes" section.

Make sense?
~Chris.
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| March 13, 2014, 2:22 am
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Quoting Legomania .
Would adding a LDD file so that the judges can look at the techniques I used possibly bump up my score?


You're welcome to do it but simply adding an LDD file won't do anything for your score.
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| March 13, 2014, 2:26 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Absolutely, that would be fine.

Thank you Chris.
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| March 13, 2014, 9:43 am
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Quoting Reynolds .
I've seen Matthew Oh judge other people's entries after mine, but he still hasn't judged mine.

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/382923


Whoops! I must have missed that one, judged!
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| March 13, 2014, 10:06 am
This is a far-reaching question, but I thought of it and might as well ask.

I was thinking about the "MOC of Future's Past" category, and what I might use. If I were to represent Bobby 'Iceman' Drake by using the LEGO minifigure icecube tray to create an Iceman minifig... would that count? I know that frozen water does not equal LEGO, but if it came from a LEGO product...?

Again, I thought it so I might as well ask. Thank you for your (very valuable) time.
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| March 13, 2014, 6:43 pm
QUESTION: I was thinking about doing the "Alien Life" category. It says "build a scene." Could I build a bunch of little scenes showing what different aliens do instead of just one big scene?
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| March 13, 2014, 9:43 pm
A question about the life`s a beach category.It says it has to be on Earth, but it says nothing about what time on earth it has to be. For example, could for build a place that you would of liked to visit that is in the future?
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| March 14, 2014, 5:12 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...
This is a far-reaching question, but I thought of it and might as well ask.

I was thinking about the "MOC of Future's Past" category, and what I might use. If I were to represent Bobby 'Iceman' Drake by using the LEGO minifigure icecube tray to create an Iceman minifig... would that count? I know that frozen water does not equal LEGO, but if it came from a LEGO product...?

Again, I thought it so I might as well ask. Thank you for your (very valuable) time.


As this is not a purist contest not only would I accept that, I (personally) fully endorse it! (can't speak for the other judges but I think that's brilliant!)

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| March 14, 2014, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Elliott Feldman
QUESTION: I was thinking about doing the "Alien Life" category. It says "build a scene." Could I build a bunch of little scenes showing what different aliens do instead of just one big scene?


I think I know where you're going here. Kinda like a "day in the life" thing.

For me personally, I think that would be fine. But I can't speak for the other judges. There may be a "letter of the law" thing that some judges may frown upon but for me... As long as they all are part of one coherent story line, I'd classify that as one entry.
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| March 14, 2014, 10:58 pm
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Quoting Captain Infinity
A question about the life`s a beach category.It says it has to be on Earth, but it says nothing about what time on earth it has to be. For example, could for build a place that you would of liked to visit that is in the future?


No. For this one we're looking for a REAL place that YOU could go to today. Travelling to the future and/or past is not a "real" thing and therefor not allowed in this category.

Pick a real place please. Time travel doesn't exist and therefor is not "real."
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| March 14, 2014, 11:00 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

I think I know where you're going here. Kinda like a "day in the life" thing.

For me personally, I think that would be fine. But I can't speak for the other judges. There may be a "letter of the law" thing that some judges may frown upon but for me... As long as they all are part of one coherent story in, I'd classify that as one entry.
Well basically I wanted to have just a little scene for a bunch of different aliens, showing what different aliens do. Think children's book "The cat goes to the market. The dog goes to the park." sort of thing. Is that okay?

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| March 14, 2014, 11:49 pm
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Quoting Elliott Feldman Well basically I wanted to have just a little scene for a bunch of different aliens, showing what different aliens do. Think children's book "The cat goes to the market. The dog goes to the park." sort of thing. Is that okay?


Again, for me, it would be fine. Looking forward to it!
~Chris.
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| March 15, 2014, 12:25 am
For the future tech time category, it could we build a piece of technology from a post-apocalyptic future? And can it be inspired from a book, movie or other source - the category says as "you" imagine it. What I have in mind has quite a bit of personal interpretation attached, but is inspired from a book so I'm not sure if that's ok
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| March 15, 2014, 11:59 pm
Big big big BIG problem! Okay, I picked six of the category's, and someone on my team made an entry for the back in time category (Witch is one that I picked), and now we both have a MOC posted for that category, so could we (If he agrees) have my MOC be the entry? Thank you.
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| March 16, 2014, 2:01 am
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Quoting Tim S
For the future tech time category, it could we build a piece of technology from a post-apocalyptic future? And can it be inspired from a book, movie or other source - the category says as "you" imagine it. What I have in mind has quite a bit of personal interpretation attached, but is inspired from a book so I'm not sure if that's ok

As long as its from the future its fine.
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| March 16, 2014, 4:15 pm
Does building a scene from a LEGO® Video Game count for the Video Games category? And would it have to be a direct scene or just my representation… Like, could it be inspired by a video game?
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| March 16, 2014, 5:37 pm
Quoting Justin Knelsen
As long as its from the future its fine.

With that said, I can make a replica of a futuristic item, not necessarily something I imagined myself?

If not, not a problem, I have quite a few ideas for that category.
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| March 17, 2014, 1:07 pm
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Quoting Nick Brick
With that said, I can make a replica of a futuristic item, not necessarily something I imagined myself?

If not, not a problem, I have quite a few ideas for that category.

Use your own discretion, if it's from the future it fits the category, but the more imagination you use the better especially in this category.
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| March 17, 2014, 1:47 pm
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Quoting Nathan Pownell
Does building a scene from a LEGO® Video Game count for the Video Games category? And would it have to be a direct scene or just my representation… Like, could it be inspired by a video game?

Well it's a video game so yes you can use it, but be sure to give us a photo reference of the scene or else it could look like some random Batman or Star Wars creation.
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| March 17, 2014, 1:50 pm
Because I'm entering a warhammer 40k championship I can't build anything else! What do I do?




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| March 17, 2014, 3:02 pm
What happens to the group when the mocathon is done?
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| March 17, 2014, 3:15 pm
Quoting Tyler Berry
What happens to the group when the mocathon is done?

When the MocAthalon ends, there is a period that can range from a couple days to a couple weeks on when the final scores are brought in by the judges and finally revealed to the contestants. The group pool will be locked at midnight on April 1st, Mocpages time when the contest ends (that's the end of the time allowed to submit your builds). Once the scores are announced the group usually stays active for another couple days and then becomes inactive.
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| March 17, 2014, 3:21 pm
Is Delatron still a judge? I haven't seen him score anyone's creation.
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| March 17, 2014, 3:54 pm
Quoting Thomas B.
Is Delatron still a judge? I haven't seen him score anyone's creation.

That's because he isn't a judge, he's the scorekeeper.
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| March 17, 2014, 4:35 pm
Quoting Thomas B.
Is Delatron still a judge? I haven't seen him score anyone's creation.

Although I am not a judge, or an Admin, or anybody really, I will say this. I believe that Delatron is the score-keeper, but I am not sure. To judges: if this comment is illegal, just delete it.
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| March 17, 2014, 4:36 pm
So for the category " go for the gold" , would itbe ok if I did like, ancient winter Olympics or medevil or something along that line???
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| March 17, 2014, 5:52 pm
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Quoting Matt W.
So for the category " go for the gold" , would itbe ok if I did like, ancient winter Olympics or medevil or something along that line???


No, modern please.
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| March 17, 2014, 10:43 pm
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Quoting Wolverine .
Big big big BIG problem! Okay, I picked six of the category's, and someone on my team made an entry for the back in time category (Witch is one that I picked), and now we both have a MOC posted for that category, so could we (If he agrees) have my MOC be the entry? Thank you.


And this my friends, is why teamwork is SO important in a game like this.

Mitchell's creation was the first one added to the group and therefor will be the one that we judge. I already removed your entry from the main group pool and ask that you do the same for your team's group.

As it was an honest mistake, you and your team will not be docked any points for the slipup but once a creation is added to the group, it's an "official" entry and cannot be changed, removed or substituted for anything else.

~Chris.
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| March 17, 2014, 10:55 pm
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Quoting Jackal :]
Because I'm entering a warhammer 40k championship I can't build anything else! What do I do?


Prioritise? Keep a diary?

Seriously, I'm not quite sure what you want us to say Jackal. This contest is announced with plenty of notice and even a casual glance at the rules (which is all some people do ;) ) will tell you that it is 1 month duration. Entrants should be aware of this when entering and committing to build for their team.

If you now decide to stop building to prepare and play 40K instead then that is your decision. Your already posted builds will be scored and added to your team total but if you don't build anything else you will not contribute further to the contest or their score - simples! There is no special dispensation for double-booking yourself/ going on vacation/ lots of homework/ injuries (ask poor Sebeus I) / etc.

I assume your team mates are aware of this (happy or not) and you are planning amongst yourselves to divvy up the categories to other builders and cover what you might have built.

Good luck in your other tournament - I used to go for Eldar (Harlequins especially) but it's over 20 years since I was into 40K!

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| March 18, 2014, 5:16 am
Quoting Delatron 3000

Really sorry Deletron! I completely understand that you are annoyed at me! I really do! I would be to! But I didn’t actually know about the tournament until very recently! Seriously dude, sorry! I have told my team mates and they have not replied yet so I will let you know when they do… I should probably keep a diary as well… But I have to say, I’m only 11 years old, I’m not incredibly responsible! Im only a child. I hope the contest goes well, I really do! Here, let me favourite builder you! Thanks for the luck, I’ll need it! I’m an ork player myself!
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| March 18, 2014, 5:56 am
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Quoting Jackal :]

Really sorry Deletron! I completely understand that you are annoyed at me! I really do! I would be to! But I didn’t actually know about the tournament until very recently! Seriously dude, sorry! I have told my team mates and they have not replied yet so I will let you know when they do… I should probably keep a diary as well… But I have to say, I’m only 11 years old, I’m not incredibly responsible! Im only a child. I hope the contest goes well, I really do! Here, let me favourite builder you! Thanks for the luck, I’ll need it! I’m an ork player myself!


No need to apologise (to me anyway), and no, i'm not annoyed with you at all - it's your decision after all. What your team-mates think may be different though...

I was being flippant about the diary, but truthfully, there is no age limit on responsibility. It is down to the individual to organise themselves and if you have two things you WANT, not have, to do but they clash then YOU have to choose between them. If you started this contest, joined a team and agreed to build for a number of categories, THEN found out about the WH40K tournament then I would suggest it would be fairer to your team to see out your obligation to them first. If you knew about the WH40K tournament but signed up for the MA anyway then you should have made sure you could do both or were prepared to miss out on one of them. If you CHOOSE to prioritise the 40K over the MA now then that is cool - it really is your choice - but it might have been fairer to your team to let them know up-front that you only intended to be building for half the contest so they could try and plan around it.

This isn't a rant, just a bit of friendly advice ;) I DO get cross when people pull out of the MO's each year after progressing past the first stage based on homework/ camp/ etc. as they have taken away a spot from another competitor. This isn't quite like that, but who is to say whether your team may have wanted somebody else to join their team instead if they knew? I would always ask anybody competing to have a good look at the dates and make sure they should be able to play before signing up.
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| March 18, 2014, 9:53 am
This little nugget o' wisdom was brought to you by the fine people at Delatron 3000, purveyors of fun for decades to come, and the number 5. ;)
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| March 18, 2014, 11:42 am
May I edit my team name into my latest?
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| March 20, 2014, 12:35 pm
Can I please edit the video into my Rube Goldberg machine where is is on the page without having to click a link please? Thanks!
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| March 20, 2014, 7:11 pm
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Quoting Wolverine .
May I edit my team name into my latest?



Quoting Wolverine .
Can I please edit the video into my Rube Goldberg machine where is is on the page without having to click a link please? Thanks!


Sorry,

We made the announcement on the 11th that the "grace period" was over for adjusting entries. The moc is an official entry as is.

~Chris.
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| March 21, 2014, 2:24 am
Quoting Chris Phipson


Quoting Wolverine .
Can I please edit the video into my Rube Goldberg machine where is is on the page without having to click a link please? Thanks!


Sorry,

We made the announcement on the 11th that the "grace period" was over for adjusting entries. The moc is an official entry as is.
Okay.
~Chris.


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| March 21, 2014, 2:27 am
For the future tech time category can I make a future military themed vehicle? Or like some futuristic off road buggy?
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| March 22, 2014, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Garett Smith
For the future tech time category can I make a future military themed vehicle? Or like some futuristic off road buggy?


Future Tech Time: Build a piece of tech whether it’s a car or spaceship or even a desktop computer. Just build it how you would imagine it in the future.

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| March 22, 2014, 10:24 pm
For the "Everything is Awesome" category could I do something StarWars themed?
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| March 23, 2014, 12:15 pm
We gonna get a perfect scores thread?
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| March 23, 2014, 2:02 pm
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Quoting ~ Brick
For the "Everything is Awesome" category could I do something StarWars themed?


As long as all we see is Lego, it's good to go.
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| March 23, 2014, 10:31 pm
Reverse a Historical Event..... Humor IS allowed?
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| March 24, 2014, 10:31 am
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Quoting Abby Francis
Reverse a Historical Event..... Humor IS allowed?


I don't see why not... Just make sure it fits the story/concept.
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| March 25, 2014, 6:16 pm
Does the M C Escher category have to comply to a specific painting. What I have now is a bit of a mish mash of different little things from his paintings, I just wanted to know if it would lower my score.
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| March 26, 2014, 2:03 am
Does Future Tech Time have to be life-sized, or no?
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| March 26, 2014, 11:57 am
Quoting Kevin Moyer
Does Future Tech Time have to be life-sized, or no?

I don't believe so...mine was tho.
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| March 26, 2014, 12:25 pm
A question about the 'Cosplay Rule 63' category:

The category states that it should be a character from "a popular work of fiction". If it's not from a work of fiction, but is well-known in their own right, would that be sufficient. Ex: Georgina Washington.

Thank you in advance.
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| March 26, 2014, 11:44 pm
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Quoting Anthony Wilson
Does the M C Escher category have to comply to a specific painting. What I have now is a bit of a mish mash of different little things from his paintings, I just wanted to know if it would lower my score.


While personally for me, it wouldn't HAVE to be EXACT, I think the closer you get to the original piece (with a little room for interp) the better.
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| March 27, 2014, 2:32 am
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Quoting Kevin Moyer
Does Future Tech Time have to be life-sized, or no?


Nope.
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| March 27, 2014, 2:32 am
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Quoting Dodge ...
A question about the 'Cosplay Rule 63' category:

The category states that it should be a character from "a popular work of fiction". If it's not from a work of fiction, but is well-known in their own right, would that be sufficient. Ex: Georgina Washington.

Thank you in advance.


I would be fine with that. As long as the subject is well known to the general viewer.

Unless any other judges have a problem with it, go for it.

~Chris.
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| March 27, 2014, 2:33 am
I have the category in the title of my creation, yet Matthew Oh assigned me a score of 2 for not including the category. Can a judge re-assign a score, or is the score permanent, even if assigned based on a mistake?
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| March 27, 2014, 11:07 am
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Quoting Lando L. Jackson
I have the category in the title of my creation, yet Matthew Oh assigned me a score of 2 for not including the category. Can a judge re-assign a score, or is the score permanent, even if assigned based on a mistake?


We're discussing it in the judges group and Matt will get back to you very soon.
~Chris.
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| March 28, 2014, 10:13 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

We're discussing it in the judges group and Matt will get back to you very soon.
~Chris.

Alright, thank you!
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| March 28, 2014, 10:16 pm
Am I allowed to edit the logo for a lego theme into the main picture of my creation? It has been done before (namely here: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/382631), but I want to make sure...
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| March 29, 2014, 12:54 pm
What happened to Kevin J. Walter?
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| March 29, 2014, 11:59 pm
Just as a conformation, our entries are due tonight at 11:59pm Mocpages time, correct?
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| March 30, 2014, 1:47 pm
Quoting Mister Lego ~
Just as a conformation, our entries are due tonight at 11:59pm Mocpages time, correct?

March has 31 days.
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| March 30, 2014, 6:11 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
March has 31 days.

Um...the category thread makes it clear that you have only 30 days; last year it closed on the 30th as well
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| March 30, 2014, 6:27 pm
Quoting Halhi 141
Um...the category thread makes it clear that you have only 30 days; last year it closed on the 30th as well

Oewh...
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| March 30, 2014, 6:28 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
Oewh...

I got caught by this one last year, yep it's 30 days.
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| March 30, 2014, 6:29 pm
Okay, I know that you can edit the background for your entry, but is it also allowed to edit a background that also fits into your entry?
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| March 30, 2014, 9:22 pm
I'm having severe technical issues with the uploader. Every time I open it, I get a message telling me that my, "security settings have blocked a self-signed program from running". The only option is to hit Okay, at which point I am confronted with an error message from the uploader.
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| March 30, 2014, 9:57 pm
Is today the last day or do we have until tomorrow? Please answer ASAP because I have to stop soon.
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| March 30, 2014, 9:59 pm
Quoting Chi Warrior
Is today the last day or do we have until tomorrow? Please answer ASAP because I have to stop soon.

It ends today.
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| March 30, 2014, 9:59 pm
Quoting Zach Lucia
It ends today.

. .
'-'
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| March 30, 2014, 10:01 pm
Quoting Zach Lucia
It ends today.

are you certain? Cause then I'm D...O...O...M...E...D...!...!...!
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| March 30, 2014, 10:02 pm
Quoting Chi Warrior
are you certain? Cause then I'm D...O...O...M...E...D...!...!...!

Check the rules.
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| March 30, 2014, 10:03 pm
Quoting Zach Lucia
Check the rules.

~Cries~ Okay~sniff~I'm done now.
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| March 30, 2014, 10:08 pm
Quoting Chi Warrior
~Cries~ Okay~sniff~I'm done now.

Sorry bro.
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| March 30, 2014, 10:08 pm
Judges: Is it possible to extend the deadline? Just one more day? Please? A lot of people were planning on uploading and finishing up their entries tomorrow. So, can you PLEASE extend the deadline?
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| March 30, 2014, 10:14 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Hi Chris, it seems that the group is still open and people are posting MOCs after the deadline.

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| March 31, 2014, 5:43 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
The game will run from March 1st to March 30th.

Judges, ya here? The deadline is past, but the group's still accepting creations! The seven latest creations were all submitted on March 31st. Is something wrong here? Was the deadline extended a day?
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| March 31, 2014, 8:02 am
Quoting Kevin Moyer
Quoting Chris Phipson
The game will run from March 1st to March 30th.

Judges, ya here? The deadline is past, but the group's still accepting creations! The seven latest creations were all submitted on March 31st. Is something wrong here? Was the deadline extended a day?

It could be grace time or the judges fell asleep and did not lock the group.:P
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| March 31, 2014, 8:14 am
Quoting Lindel Baskin
I'm having severe technical issues with the uploader. Every time I open it, I get a message telling me that my, "security settings have blocked a self-signed program from running". The only option is to hit Okay, at which point I am confronted with an error message from the uploader.

That is what kept happening to me, as well! I ended up getting my dad to fix it. That is the best advice I can give you.
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| March 31, 2014, 10:59 am
Quoting Abby Francis
That is what kept happening to me, as well! I ended up getting my dad to fix it. That is the best advice I can give you.

I had that problem as well, so I just used the old uploader. You have to resize your images to a smaller size and make sure to select the size you want them on the page before you upload them, but other than that, it is relatively intuitive.
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| March 31, 2014, 11:02 am
Quoting Lindel Baskin
I'm having severe technical issues with the uploader. Every time I open it, I get a message telling me that my, "security settings have blocked a self-signed program from running". The only option is to hit Okay, at which point I am confronted with an error message from the uploader.



This is a problem with your java client which when updated to the latest version considers the MOCpages uploader to be a thread. What you need to do is go to your start bar (if you have windows, if you have a mac just look for the Java folder), then launch the application named java settings (or whatever is closest). Once the Java settings has been opened, go to security, lower the bar to medium (you'll know what I mean when you see it) and then click add security exception. Copy the link from the uploader window, and then paste it into the security exception box. After that, you should be able to run the uploader.

Let me know if that makes sense :)
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| March 31, 2014, 12:30 pm
Do we get an extension or something? Because if so I can get the rest of my entries in! :D

So as an official question: If I post my last three entries today, would they be considered for judging or no?
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| March 31, 2014, 4:07 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights
I am not quite sure what Chris has in mind, but I do personally know that the (correct me if I am wrong) last nine entries were submitted after March 30. That said, I am not sure if Chris intended for this to be the case. ;)

I might have been tempted to bend the rules for Gabriel's stunning Bowie build.
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| March 31, 2014, 4:08 pm
Quoting General Rules Any posts made after 11:59pm March 30th will not be judged.
Unfortunately that section isn't as clear as, say, the MocOlympics because it doesn't state which time-zone it is referring to. In the past it has been MOCpages time, but because it wasn't stated as such, I wonder if it is March 30th for ALL time zones. That being the case, people in other time zones officially posted their MOCs on time according to the time zone where they are. But whatever the judges decide will be fine with me.
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| March 31, 2014, 4:13 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights

I have my own opinion on the matter, but like I said, I am unsure on the answer.

Dang... Anywho, I would like to concur with David FNJ, my last two entries may have been posted on the 31st in a different time zone, (under 20 minutes after the 31st...) but in my timezone it was far from the next day starting.
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| March 31, 2014, 4:20 pm
I don't see it posted here, but a staple of the deadline for all the MocAthalons/MocOlympics is the use of "Mocpages time." This is basically US Eastern time (due to where the main server in NYC is located), but it's a couple minutes or so behind the normal time. I'd think maybe 10 minutes at most (4 minutes behind my local eastern time as I type this). That is usually the standard since the timezones are a big factor.

I haven't seen it mentioned yet this year, but I assume that is what was being used.
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| March 31, 2014, 4:57 pm
Be that as it may, If the rules from last year still stand, I believe the contest closes as the EST timezone hits midnight.

I'm kinda curious myself to see what will happen with the entries that came in late.
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| March 31, 2014, 4:57 pm
Quoting Lego Junkie
Be that as it may, If the rules from last year still stand, I believe the contest closes as the EST timezone hits midnight.

I'm kinda curious myself to see what will happen with the entries that came in late.

If it was my contest I would delete the late ones from the group.
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| March 31, 2014, 5:58 pm
My opinion probably doesn't matter, but I'd say that entries posted after March 30th shouldn't be considered in the judging. Sure, some of them are pretty grand, but they were still posted after the deadline. I know everyone on my team knew exactly when the deadline was, and we planned accordingly. So when I got on this morning I was pretty surprised to see that more entries were coming in. If our team would have known the group was still open, we could've popped out at least a few more entries! So now some teams have an unfair advantage for being allowed to post stuff after the official deadline. Like I said, some pretty cool creations, but deadlines are deadlines....
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| March 31, 2014, 6:10 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights

I have my own opinion on the matter, but like I said, I am unsure on the answer.

Hey Greyson. Do you know if Kevin J. Walter is still judging?
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| March 31, 2014, 6:16 pm
I thought I'd just chime in here and say a few words. Though, in the rules, it does say that the deadline was March 30th at 11:59pm, however it didn't specifically say which timezone. I know that, generally, the deadlines are "Mocpages time", however there were also many first time competitors in the contest that may not have been aware of this. Also, I don't think that any of the "late" entries would put a team in a duractic lead or advantage, though I may be wrong. If it were up to me I'd judge the entries, however, this is just my humble opinion.
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| March 31, 2014, 6:36 pm
Sigh. Scrap my comment about extra time. I won't be able to finish it tonight. Elliot made some great points as well. Thanks a lot everyone!
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| March 31, 2014, 6:45 pm
I think the rules should stand - the fun of the MocAthalon is trying to build and post 5 scenes in the last 2 hours because you forgot you didn't have the 31st. ;)
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| March 31, 2014, 7:15 pm
Quoting Elliott Feldman
...entries posted after March 30th shouldn't be considered in the judging.

I personally agree with Elliott. I am planning on posting another, just in case the judges decide that entries on the 31st still count. However, if I were deciding the situation, I would say that the entries on the 31st should not count.
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| March 31, 2014, 7:22 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights
Quoting Mark McPeek
Hey Greyson. Do you know if Kevin J. Walter is still judging?

Hey Mark,

As much as it doesn't look like it, Kevin has never stated to me (us) that he will discontinue his judging. ;)

Why is the main group closed for new creations? I still have more to upload!!
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| March 31, 2014, 10:38 pm
Quoting Luke the Swift
Why is the main group closed for new creations? I still have more to upload!!

I guess no one reads anymore. The general rules specifically said the deadline is the 30th of March.
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| March 31, 2014, 10:40 pm
Quoting Wolverine .
I guess no one reads anymore. The general rules specifically said the deadline is the 30th of March.

Um, 1 person not reading = everybody not reading?
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| March 31, 2014, 10:43 pm
Quoting Wolverine .
I guess no one reads anymore. The general rules specifically said the deadline is the 30th of March.

Really are you sure!!
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| March 31, 2014, 10:51 pm
Quoting Luke the Swift
Really are you sure!!

He is correct.
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| March 31, 2014, 10:54 pm
Quoting Luke the Swift
Really are you sure!!


Yeah... http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23656&topicid=94201

And more proof!

Quoting Chris Phipson
Teams may not start building until March 1st. Any posts made after 11:59pm March 30th will not be judged.


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| March 31, 2014, 10:55 pm
Quoting Greyson Beights
Quoting Mark McPeek
Hey Greyson. Do you know if Kevin J. Walter is still judging?

Hey Mark,

As much as it doesn't look like it, Kevin has never stated to me (us) that he will discontinue his judging. ;)


Thanks man!

Quoting Kevin Moyer
I personally agree with Elliott. I am planning on posting another, just in case the judges decide that entries on the 31st still count. However, if I were deciding the situation, I would say that the entries on the 31st should not count.


I second this. What's the story on MOCs posted after the 30th?

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| March 31, 2014, 11:45 pm
 Group admin 
Hey all. To clarify, as posted by the head honcho himself in our judges group

"Any entry that has the 31st on it's post date is not going to be judged"

The dates and times were clear in the rules thread and apologies but real life got in the way of a judge stepping in an locking the group to new entries at the right time. Because of this there will be a few MOCs which were posted to the group but will not receive a score.

Yes times were based off MOCpages time as per usual.
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| April 1, 2014, 4:32 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Mark McPeek
Hey Greyson. Do you know if Kevin J. Walter is still judging?


Kevin is still judging but has been wrapped up in University work - he is hoping to be back on with scoring tomorrow.

Please bear with us guys while we finish scoring/ collating. As soon as I am able to I will post final scores along with other interesting figures and facts - most prolific builder/ team, highest individual scorer, etc.
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| April 1, 2014, 6:28 am
Our team has a problem.

One of our teammates, Josh O was working on a MOC, but he didn't post till LATE at night yesterday. So my other teammate Kevin Moyer posted something for that same category a couple hours before. He just threw it together. Is it possible for us to have Josh O's entry instead of Kevin Moyer's for that category?
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| April 1, 2014, 6:40 am
 Group admin 
Quoting .: Calvin :.
Our team has a problem.

One of our teammates, Josh O was working on a MOC, but he didn't post till LATE at night yesterday. So my other teammate Kevin Moyer posted something for that same category a couple hours before. He just threw it together. Is it possible for us to have Josh O's entry instead of Kevin Moyer's for that category?


Sorry Calvin but either entry would be after the deadline of 30th March and thus neither would not count towards your team score as mentioned a few posts above. Even if it was before the deadline then we would have to accept the one first posted in the group. Brave attempt to grab some last minute points but unfortunately too late :(
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| April 1, 2014, 7:54 am
Both Kevin and delatron have failed to judge any of my entries...are they just taking their time or what....I mean, are they still judging?
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| April 2, 2014, 11:43 am
Quoting Matt W.
Both Kevin and delatron have failed to judge any of my entries...are they just taking their time or what....I mean, are they still judging?

Delatron is the score keeper.
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| April 2, 2014, 12:56 pm
Quoting Timothy Post
Delatron is the score keeper.

Oh, I see!
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| April 2, 2014, 1:04 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you have any questions about how the game works (or any aspect of the game in general) please ask it here in this thread.

BEFORE you ask your question, PLEASE READ the general rules to make sure your question hasn't been answered already.

~Chris.

when will the winner be announced?
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| April 2, 2014, 9:21 pm
Quoting Brick Madness
when will the winner be announced?

When all of the scores for each MOC are added, when all of the MOC scores are added to other MOC scores of the same team, and after all of the scores are compared against other teams and complied and formatted into a long comment with other various facts like the number of perfect scores, various facts about the judges and how they ranked, total points awarded overall, averages, etc.

It's only 3 days after the deadline - they'll be done when they are done. They have to first wait for all of the judges to finish judging (and if you looked at the Missing Scores thread it would be obvious that all of the judges aren't done yet). Second, they have to do the tedious task of adding....and adding...and more adding...and then formatting the long comment.

Basically it comes down to....who cares? They'll come out eventually and we won't have to wait too long. It's not like they have the scores and are withholding the scores from us just for fun - they are going as fast as it is humanly possible with the circumstances and such that they face. Once they have it all ready, then they will announce the winner as well as the rest of the results.
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| April 2, 2014, 9:29 pm
Quoting David FNJ

I like your answer
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| April 2, 2014, 9:43 pm
Quoting David FNJ
When all of the scores for each MOC are added, when all of the MOC scores are added to other MOC scores of the same team, and after all of the scores are compared against other teams and complied and formatted into a long comment with other various facts like the number of perfect scores, various facts about the judges and how they ranked, total points awarded overall, averages, etc.

It's only 3 days after the deadline - they'll be done when they are done. They have to first wait for all of the judges to finish judging (and if you looked at the Missing Scores thread it would be obvious that all of the judges aren't done yet). Second, they have to do the tedious task of adding....and adding...and more adding...and then formatting the long comment.

Basically it comes down to....who cares? They'll come out eventually and we won't have to wait too long. It's not like they have the scores and are withholding the scores from us just for fun - they are going as fast as it is humanly possible with the circumstances and such that they face. Once they have it all ready, then they will announce the winner as well as the rest of the results.

I know this David! I am just asking a simple question. I am going to be on the road after this weekend and, might not see them for a week if they don't get posted before Saturday.
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| April 3, 2014, 10:09 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Brick Madness
I know this David! I am just asking a simple question. I am going to be on the road after this weekend and, might not see them for a week if they don't get posted before Saturday.


There is no definite answer I'm afraid - I am up to date with all the scores that are in, but we are awaiting Kevin's input on around 170 entries. That will take him some time to give each proper consideration and score (so be patient please!), then I will have to note those, do my totaliser bit, make sure we didn't miss anything, check twice, post the scores then go for a lie-down.

If Kevin is able to score soon I would guess at results by the end of the weekend but I cannot say for certain.
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| April 3, 2014, 10:19 am
I was wondering if the contest was still going on. Because I tried to enter and it wouldn't let me
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| April 3, 2014, 4:23 pm
Quoting Sean-Thomas AKA eet50
I was wondering if the contest was still going on. Because I tried to enter and it wouldn't let me

Ummm...it's over, son.... :(
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| April 3, 2014, 4:27 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sean-Thomas AKA eet50
I was wondering if the contest was still going on. Because I tried to enter and it wouldn't let me


This one is well past the signup time and the contest itself ended on the 30th.

For a lot of contests there is a sign up period that you have to be sure to get in because once the game starts, you can't get in.

We will have a contest in the summer months (not sure when, it's Mr. Xenomurphy's and it's usually around June or July).

The next "big one" after that is the MocOlympics. Sign ups for that are in August so be sure to check around the pages then.

~Chris.

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| April 3, 2014, 4:38 pm
Quoting Delatron 3000

There is no definite answer I'm afraid - I am up to date with all the scores that are in, but we are awaiting Kevin's input on around 170 entries. That will take him some time to give each proper consideration and score (so be patient please!), then I will have to note those, do my totaliser bit, make sure we didn't miss anything, check twice, post the scores then go for a lie-down.

If Kevin is able to score soon I would guess at results by the end of the weekend but I cannot say for certain.

I totally understand. No pressure at all. I had just been wondering if there was any specific date.
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| April 3, 2014, 5:25 pm
At what point is the grace period for missed scores over?
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| April 7, 2014, 5:18 pm
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