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Welcome to Round 4 of the Middle Earth Lego Olympics! Eight of you are still up and running! If you’re still not feeling 100% certain about how everything works, you can brush up on the rules here:

http://mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23408&topicid=92891

Please carefully read all of the following before asking any potential questions:

Round 4 ends at 11:59pm MOCpages time on 2/16/14. That gives you just under ten days to build!

The theme for this round is Return of the King quotes. As in the previous rounds, the quotes are open to interpretation. Some quotes will be trickier to tackle than others. You can take the basic route and build the scene from which the quote originates, or you can build some other creative MOC that somehow relates. It’s up to you! All we ask is that you REFRAIN from including other story themes in your entry (e.g. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Superheroes, etc.). Seeing as you were all successful in the preceding rounds, we expect that you understand how this works by now!

Required for all Round 4 entries:

-Title your entry: MELO Round 4: [your name] vs. [your opponent’s name]

-State your bracket (Barad Dur or Orthanc) FIRST THING in the intro box. As there are two sets of judges, this immediately informs them if you’re in their bracket or not. It’s a courtesy!

-Provide a WORKING link to your opponent’s homepage or entry (depending on which of you posts first), placed preferably near the top of your entry’s page. You can also include a link to the MELO homepage if you’d like (appreciated, but not required).

-State the category you’re playing in, preferably near the top of your page.





And now, without further ado, I give you the Round 4 categories and match-ups!






Return of the King Quotes

-Barad Dur Bracket: Your judges are Blake Bear, Mark Murphy, and Ian Spacek. The judges are not required to give feedback about their voting decisions.





Grant Davis vs. Zoltan K.
“The journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass.”


KW Vauban vs. Justin Knelsen
“Naughty little fly, why does it cry, caught in a web, soon to be... eaten!”





-Orthanc Bracket: Your judges are Max Pointner, Michael Kringe, and Paul Vermeesch. The judges are not required to give feedback about their voting decisions.





Finn Tegotash vs. J-Rod Smith
“A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day!”


Elliot Feldman vs. Li Li
“There was a white tree in a courtyard of stone. It was dead. The city was burning.”

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| February 6, 2014, 6:23 pm
Go J-rod!
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| February 6, 2014, 6:24 pm
Go Justin! Go J-rod!
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| February 6, 2014, 6:27 pm
GO JUSTIN!
GO ELLIOT!!
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| February 6, 2014, 8:51 pm
Should I build all of minas tirith, or just my one scene?
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| February 6, 2014, 9:54 pm
Quoting Grant Davis
Should I build all of minas tirith, or just my one scene?

I think we'd all be blown away if you built the whole White City!
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| February 6, 2014, 11:38 pm
Quoting Grant Davis
Should I build all of minas tirith, or just my one scene?


I'm afraid you are really planning to build whole Minas Tirith. And maybe Gondor too as background :D
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| February 7, 2014, 12:53 am
Quoting Grant Davis
Should I build all of minas tirith, or just my one scene?

Just watch out that you have the right amount of figs. That's what really counts! :D

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| February 7, 2014, 3:24 am
GO FINN!!
GO GRANT!!
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| February 7, 2014, 10:41 am
Awesome! Good luck everyone!
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| February 9, 2014, 7:55 pm
GO J-ROD!!
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| February 10, 2014, 7:32 pm
How come I can't add my entry?
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| February 11, 2014, 1:31 am
GO EVERYONE
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| February 11, 2014, 1:40 am
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Quoting Li Li
How come I can't add my entry?

You should be able to now.
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| February 11, 2014, 2:24 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
You should be able to now.



Thanks a lot.
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| February 11, 2014, 2:44 am
It's awesome to see some entries coming in! Makes me want to get back to work on mine...
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| February 11, 2014, 3:00 pm
Just got back from my debate tournament, time to finish up!
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| February 16, 2014, 12:45 pm
Wow! Amazing MOCs this round! Good luck guys!
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| February 16, 2014, 6:17 pm
What movie should I watch for Round 5? :D
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| February 19, 2014, 2:28 pm
Quoting Grant Davis
What movie should I watch for Round 5? :D


I'm wondering the same thing. ;)
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| February 19, 2014, 2:30 pm
Not to stir the waters, but I'd like to call a foul on the judges for Finn's Round 4. Each judge seemed to enjoy the MOC more than his opponent save for one thing:

Paul Vermeesch - “I think you may have been better served by staying inside the LOTR universe.”

Michael Kringe - “but then again I agree with Paul about the fact that your build isn't LOTRish enough.”

Max Pointer – “I agree with Paul: building something specific to LOTR might have swayed the MELO see-saw in your favor.”

I believe this is unfair to state, primarily since in the rules it states:

“the quotes are open to interpretation. Some quotes will be trickier to tackle than others. You can take the basic route and build the scene from which the quote originates, or you can build some other creative MOC that somehow relates. It’s up to you! All we ask is that you REFRAIN from including other story themes in your entry (e.g. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Superheroes, etc.).”

Finn should not have lost due to LOTR relevance. Again, not trying to be a poop-disturber, just pointing it out.
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| February 20, 2014, 1:41 pm
Quoting Dodge ...

I agree, he also gave a nice paragraph explaining how it still applied to the quote.
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| February 20, 2014, 3:23 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...

I noticed this too, and I spoke to Max and Paul about it. At first glance the decision seemed very biased to me too and contrary to the rules. However, as "relevance to the category" is part of the judging criteria, both Max and Paul felt that (everything taken into account) J-Rod's was the better choice. Both Finn and J-Rod had solid builds and good presentation, so as I understand it, the deciding factor came down to relevance to the category. Finn's was more vague, so J-Rod pulled through. That happened to be because J-Rod's basic interpretation had a lot more clarity than his opponent's unique approach. Similar situations have gone both ways in the past. I'll let the responsible judges address this further if they see fit so that you can get a first hand explanation.
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| February 20, 2014, 4:43 pm
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Quoting Dodge ...
Not to stir the waters, but I'd like to call a foul on the judges for Finn's Round 4. Each judge seemed to enjoy the MOC more than his opponent save for one thing:

Paul Vermeesch - “I think you may have been better served by staying inside the LOTR universe.”

Michael Kringe - “but then again I agree with Paul about the fact that your build isn't LOTRish enough.”

Max Pointer – “I agree with Paul: building something specific to LOTR might have swayed the MELO see-saw in your favor.”

I believe this is unfair to state, primarily since in the rules it states:

“the quotes are open to interpretation. Some quotes will be trickier to tackle than others. You can take the basic route and build the scene from which the quote originates, or you can build some other creative MOC that somehow relates. It’s up to you! All we ask is that you REFRAIN from including other story themes in your entry (e.g. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Superheroes, etc.).”

Finn should not have lost due to LOTR relevance. Again, not trying to be a poop-disturber, just pointing it out.

Dodge, when judging this entry, it was hard to say that one build was better than the other. While Finn's build was smaller, it was more intricate and detailed. On the other hand, J-Rod's build was a larger scale and cleaner, and not without detail. Because of the quality of both builds, I personally ended up casting my vote for the interpretation that I thought better fit the quote and the focus of the contest. Thanks so much for your concern Dodge. Comments like this do not disturb poop, but help the gears of this contest run smoother.
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| February 20, 2014, 5:22 pm
Quoting Ian Spacek and Quoting Max Pointner


Thanks for your understanding and added information fellas. The judging staff is doing a bang-up job, and I do not envy the stress they must be under (especially this round), but given what was written in the judgements, it just made me question the decisions.

Looking forward to next round already!
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| February 20, 2014, 7:29 pm
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