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I think it was a bad idea to shoot bin laden like we did, rather than capture him.
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| May 18, 2011, 1:30 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
I think it was a bad idea to shoot bin laden like we did, rather than capture him.

Oh?
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| May 18, 2011, 1:33 pm
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Quoting Bazinga Pie
He assumed he was armed. They killed him before he could kill them.

He was unarmed and they put two shots to his face. Not exactly a "kill or be killed" situation
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| May 18, 2011, 7:05 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
He was unarmed and they put two shots to his face. Not exactly a "kill or be killed" situation

So we should just capture the man responsible for killing thousands of innocent Americans?
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| May 18, 2011, 7:13 pm
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Quoting Matthew Novosad
So we should just capture the man responsible for killing thousands of innocent Americans?

I believe its our own goverment who layed out the 9/11 "cover up" story just for an excuse to go to war in the middle east, its our own fault for invading iraq and iran sure theres the benefits but not for us, we pay billions to fund this war that is getting no where! yeah they killed osama, nothings going to change, if there were foreign troops in my country i'd fight against them as well. the media portrays everyone with an AK-47 as the "bad guy" they are fighting for their country so just to words for everyone

GET OUT!!! (of iraq that is)
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| May 18, 2011, 11:57 pm
9/11 death toll: approximately 3000 civilians
Civilian death toll in Iraq: 15000+

"Terrorists."
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| May 19, 2011, 1:49 am
If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists. "Us" being white Christian Americans. Everything else is a terrorist. Especially those scary Muslims. GO GO AMERICA.

In all seriousness, death to Osama ended what could have been a months, even years-long trial of boneheaded liberals and conservatives, crazy Christians and Muslims, and general tomfoolery all around. It would have been really messy, and that's why they killed him.

Like in the BSG episode "Collaborators." Zarek orders all collaborators to be tried by a special council that's secret, and fast. They avoid all the public drama and get the deed done.

That's what happened here. Just without the special council part.
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| May 19, 2011, 2:27 am
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That man was the leader of one of the most effective radical Islamic terror groups. He certainly knew things, things that we could have gotten out of him before killing him maybe we could have prevented another 9/11. I doubt that even the current administration would try to interfere with interrogations on any level I believe that we could save lives with what ever he knew. Plus the liberals would be forced to use many of the measures they hate like gitmo military trials and waterboarding
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| May 19, 2011, 1:14 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
He was unarmed and they put two shots to his face. Not exactly a "kill or be killed" situation

Theyshould have just sent in drones and blow the hole place to kingdom come! that way we would not have put American lives on the line, and we wouldn't have lost a black hawk
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| May 23, 2011, 10:05 am
Quoting Snooperking .
I believe its our own goverment who layed out the 9/11 "cover up" story just for an excuse to go to war in the middle east, its our own fault for invading iraq and iran sure theres the benefits but not for us, we pay billions to fund this war that is getting no where! yeah they killed osama, nothings going to change, if there were foreign troops in my country i'd fight against them as well. the media portrays everyone with an AK-47 as the "bad guy" they are fighting for their country so just to words for everyone

GET OUT!!! (of iraq that is)

Can you respect those soldiers? My Uncle has been there multiple times now, he just left for Afghanistan. Please. For my sake.
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| May 24, 2011, 6:31 pm
ok guys. i say we did the right thing.i maybe be a christan but i say i am glad we got him.he killed some of us so we got payback on him.but i fill sorry for the children seening their dad die right in front of them.but obama did the right thing the day he went to tuscallosa he told the navy seals to go get him.so thank you obama for the command to get him.
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| May 24, 2011, 8:28 pm
Quoting Adam Weaver
ok guys. i say we did the right thing.i maybe be a christan but i say i am glad we got him.he killed some of us so we got payback on him.but i fill sorry for the children seening their dad die right in front of them.but obama did the right thing the day he went to tuscallosa he told the navy seals to go get him.so thank you obama for the command to get him.


(Sorry for the lateness) As Christians we should never support any kind of killing or murder. Yes, it's going to happen, but we need to simply listen to what the Bible has to say on this -and any- topic. It is easy to feel like 'he deserved it', but we can't be lead by emotions. The truth is we have no right to vengance. Read Romans 12:19-21 and Deuteronomy 32:35 - both cleary state that vengance are His. It is only our job to love those who persecute us. Of course I am not saying that we are to be walked on (taken advantage of or allow those we protect to go unprotected), Jesus was humble and loving but didn't allow Himself to be walked on. Also, remeber one of the original 10 commandments: Do not murder (period).

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| June 11, 2011, 9:07 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists. "Us" being white Christian Americans. Everything else is a terrorist. Especially those scary Muslims. GO GO AMERICA.

In all seriousness, death to Osama ended what could have been a months, even years-long trial of boneheaded liberals and conservatives, crazy Christians and Muslims, and general tomfoolery all around. It would have been really messy, and that's why they killed him.

Like in the BSG episode "Collaborators." Zarek orders all collaborators to be tried by a special council that's secret, and fast. They avoid all the public drama and get the deed done.

That's what happened here. Just without the special council part.
I disagree with you about Us being white Christian Americans. I'm an American citzen, but I'm also Korean(South Korean). I think your just being kind of racist. :(

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| July 15, 2011, 12:29 am
Quoting Akeldama .

(Sorry for the lateness) As Christians we should never support any kind of killing or murder. Yes, it's going to happen, but we need to simply listen to what the Bible has to say on this -and any- topic. It is easy to feel like 'he deserved it', but we can't be lead by emotions. The truth is we have no right to vengance. Read Romans 12:19-21 and Deuteronomy 32:35 - both cleary state that vengance are His. It is only our job to love those who persecute us. Of course I am not saying that we are to be walked on (taken advantage of or allow those we protect to go unprotected), Jesus was humble and loving but didn't allow Himself to be walked on. Also, remeber one of the original 10 commandments: Do not murder (period).

Look i am a christian,but osama deserved it. He killed most of our citzens so he had it coming.
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| November 8, 2011, 12:20 am
Quoting Phazezorz .
We killed the gorram man because we should've. Harland, you're just being an islamic sympathizer right now.

My opinion is that if we
1. Captured him-we have the pros of interrogation, but the cons of islamic anger-terrorism

2. Killing him has the pros of getting the thing over with, but the cons of no info..
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| December 7, 2011, 12:22 am
Quoting Akeldama .

(Sorry for the lateness) As Christians we should never support any kind of killing or murder. Yes, it's going to happen, but we need to simply listen to what the Bible has to say on this -and any- topic. It is easy to feel like 'he deserved it', but we can't be lead by emotions. The truth is we have no right to vengance. Read Romans 12:19-21 and Deuteronomy 32:35 - both cleary state that vengance are His. It is only our job to love those who persecute us. Of course I am not saying that we are to be walked on (taken advantage of or allow those we protect to go unprotected), Jesus was humble and loving but didn't allow Himself to be walked on. Also, remeber one of the original 10 commandments: Do not murder (period).

Jesus also said in Luke 22:36
"He said to them, But now if you have purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you do't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

If Jesus said that today he would say sell your clothes and buy and M16.

We are allowed to defend our selves. In attacking bin Laden we were protecting ourselves from another 9/11. Yes you could call it vengeance, and that is the Lords like you said, but you could also call it self defense!



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| January 25, 2012, 11:39 am
Yes, vengeance is His. But if you look in the Old Testament, the Lord is consistently using the Israelites as his method of vengeance. So yes, vegeance is the Lord's, but the SEAL team that took down bin Laden could easily have been the Lord's method of vengeance.
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| January 25, 2012, 2:42 pm
Quoting Snooperking .
I believe its our own goverment who layed out the 9/11 "cover up" story just for an excuse to go to war in the middle east, its our own fault for invading iraq and iran sure theres the benefits but not for us, we pay billions to fund this war that is getting no where! yeah they killed osama, nothings going to change, if there were foreign troops in my country i'd fight against them as well. the media portrays everyone with an AK-47 as the "bad guy" they are fighting for their country so just to words for everyone

GET OUT!!! (of iraq that is)


So...yes, the government OBVIOUSLY flew planes into their own skyscrapers, and they OBVIOUSLY did that just to get into a war and get a bunch of people killed. Pleae explain how that makes sense.
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| January 25, 2012, 2:47 pm
Wow I clicked this cause I thought it said "killing Obama"
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| February 9, 2012, 6:31 am
Quoting Lt. John Harland
I think it was a bad idea to shoot bin laden like we did, rather than capture him.
i don't think it was a good thing he just needed to come to Christ just like Saul was bad then he turned to Paul and was good

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| May 10, 2012, 12:50 pm
When we kill someone for killing, are we really any better? Just a thought.

Not that I would want then free in the streets, but why cant we show Gods grace? Yeah, this world is falling...


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| May 10, 2012, 12:55 pm
Quoting bioniclemaster 800
this world is falling...


Exactly.. obama makes it seem like killing people for killing is a great idea and that the world will be better and so will our lives, hes wrong killing people just makes things worse than they should be. yes this world is falling apart from god and liberty... I just hope i'm not alive to see this world end.
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| May 10, 2012, 1:02 pm
Quoting Nate B.
Exactly.. obama makes it seem like killing people for killing is a great idea and that the world will be better and so will our lives, hes wrong killing people just makes things worse than they should be. yes this world is falling apart from god and liberty... I just hope i'm not alive to see this world end.

Uh, God is going to end the world and not humans. Many people disagree if there will be a Rapture (for the Christians) or not.
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| May 10, 2012, 6:27 pm
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Quoting isaac cremer
Quoting Lt. John Harland
I think it was a bad idea to shoot bin laden like we did, rather than capture him.
i don't think it was a good thing he just needed to come to Christ just like Saul was bad then he turned to Paul and was good

Not everyone can be saved. Sorry you had to hear it form me.
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| May 10, 2012, 7:30 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
Not everyone can be saved. Sorry you had to hear it form me.

While I think its quite out of ordinary to have a radical Muslim terrorist turn around and give his life to Jesus, I believe that God has the power to move people's heart to salvation. Just my opinion on this matter.
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| May 10, 2012, 9:36 pm
Quoting †he Mas†ermind øƒ £ego™
While I think its quite out of ordinary to have a radical Muslim terrorist turn around and give his life to Jesus, I believe that God has the power to move people's heart to salvation. Just my opinion on this matter.

he COULD have been converted, but that is unlikely to ever have happened.
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| May 10, 2012, 9:52 pm
Quoting The Timinater !
he COULD have been converted, but that is unlikely to ever have happened.

Yeah. I agree with that.
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| May 10, 2012, 10:53 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
Not everyone can be saved. Sorry you had to hear it form me.

wrong! everyone can be saved!
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| February 4, 2013, 1:28 am
Quoting Isaac Cremer! (founder of I brick)
wrong! everyone can be saved!

Leaving out the fact that that's a seven month old discussion you're adding to, 'can' does not mean 'should' and it certainly doesn't mean everyone will go along with it.
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| February 4, 2013, 2:23 am
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