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Books of the Bible that are not included that you should read!!!
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heres the list:

the book of enoch

the book of adam and eve 1 and 2

the book of giants

the book of jashur

the book of the wars of the lord (which the Lord references here Numbers 21:14)

(Book of the Covenant) Exodus 24:7


Theres a ton more so ya. i dont remember them all.
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| November 4, 2009, 10:24 am
What exactly do you mean by "books of the Bible that are not included"?

Do you mean "Here are some other books that are divinely inspired in the same sense as the canonical books, but for some reason later councils of the church excluded them from the canon"? Or do you mean "Here are some other books that were written around the same time as the canonical books. They are not divinely inspired, but they give good insight into the history and culture of ancient Israel"?

Those are very different statements. Of course, some of the books you mention are lost (just like Paul's other letters to Corinth and his letter to Laodicea, and, presumably, other letters he and other apostles wrote).

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| November 4, 2009, 1:36 pm
Quoting Brick Tales
What exactly do you mean by "books of the Bible that are not included"?

Do you mean "Here are some other books that are divinely inspired in the same sense as the canonical books, but for some reason later councils of the church excluded them from the canon"? Or do you mean "Here are some other books that were written around the same time as the canonical books. They are not divinely inspired, but they give good insight into the history and culture of ancient Israel"?

Those are very different statements. Of course, some of the books you mention are lost (just like Paul's other letters to Corinth and his letter to Laodicea, and, presumably, other letters he and other apostles wrote).

they are all books the God gave to people (Such as Enoch and Adam and Eve)just like the Old Testament and the New Testament. When the council of nicene was fromed these books where taken out to cover up the Nephilum (Genisis 6).
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| November 4, 2009, 5:27 pm
Quoting Commander Marks ...
they are all books the God gave to people (Such as Enoch and Adam and Eve)just like the Old Testament and the New Testament. When the council of nicene was fromed these books where taken out to cover up the Nephilum (Genisis 6).

And we read these books how?
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| November 4, 2009, 5:32 pm
Quoting King Borether
And we read these books how?

Search them on Google.
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| November 4, 2009, 5:57 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
If they aren't in the bible then they aren't books of the bible because they weren't selected for apparent flaws in them.

Ok ,but Jesus quotes Enoch.
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| November 4, 2009, 5:59 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
If they aren't in the bible then they aren't books of the bible because they weren't selected for apparent flaws in them.

Jesus Christ Enoch
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. (Mat 5:5) The elect shall possess light, joy and peace, and they shall inherit the earth. (Enoch 5:7 {6:9})
the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son (John 5:22). the principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the Son of man. (Enoch 69:27 {68:39})
shall inherit everlasting life (Mat. 19:29) those who will inherit eternal life (Enoch 40:9 {40:9})
"Wo unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. (Luke 6:24) Woe to you who are rich, for in your riches have you trusted; but from your riches you shall be removed. (Enoch 94:8 {93:7}).
Ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Mat. 19:28) I will place each of them on a throne of glory (Enoch 108:12 {105:26})
Woe unto that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It had been good for that man if he had not been born. (Mat. 26:24) Where will the habitation of sinners be . . . who have rejected the Lord of spirits. It would have been better for them, had they never been born. (Enoch 38:2 {38:2})
between us and you there is a great gulf fixed. (Luke 16:26) by a chasm . . . [are] their souls are separated (Enoch 22: 9,11{22:10,12})
In my Father's house are many mansions (John 14:2) In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory, and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations. (Enoch 45:3 {45:3})
that ye may be called the children of light (John 12:36) the good from the generation of light (Enoch 108:11 {105: 25})
the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:14) all the thirsty drank, and were filled with wisdom, having their habitation with the righteous, the elect, and the holy. (Enoch 48:1 {48:1})
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| November 4, 2009, 6:01 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
where?

I'm lookin for it
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| November 4, 2009, 6:06 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
hmm maybe they were influencial on some of the books, idk.

Jesus called himself the son of man

Enoch profecese about the son of man in chapter XLVI (46).
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| November 4, 2009, 6:38 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
hmm maybe they were influencial on some of the books, idk.

You should also read Enoch chapter XLVII (48)
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| November 4, 2009, 6:39 pm
Your points about the Book of Enoch are well taken, but I think your conclusion goes too far. That Christ quotes it only goes to show that he was aware of it, felt the points were valid, and expected his audience to get the reference. Similarly, when addressing a Greek audience on Mars Hill, Paul cites Greek poets. We would not say that those poets were 'inspired' - in the sense that we mean when we describe scripture as inspired, and therefore an inerrant guide to spiritual matters. Of course, not being inspired (in this sense of the word) does not mean that a work has no wisdom. My shelves are full of books that have good and true things to say, even in many cases good and true things written by Christian authors about spiritual matters, but I wouldn't put those on the same level as scripture, obviously.
That said, some Christians (e.g. in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church) do regard the Book of Enoch as canon, or have done so in the past.
Enoch may be your strongest case, though. Especially since, as I noted above, some of those books are lost.
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| November 5, 2009, 12:45 pm
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