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Do you believe that man evolved from monkey?
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:13 pm
Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

No way hosea.

Not true.

One reason:

Why would there still be monkeys on the earth if they are all supposed to evolve?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:20 pm
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Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

I don't believe it either. A divine creator is so much more logical than random evolution.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:20 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk
No way hosea.

Not true.

One reason:

Why would there still be monkeys on the earth if they are all supposed to evolve?

I know,and btw,you spell "hosea"as you said it,Jose...just in case if you didn't know.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:22 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
I don't believe it either. A divine creator is so much more logical than random evolution.

And,like Blade said,if they evolved,then why are there still monkeys on earth that are "supposed to evolve"?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:23 pm
Quoting Seph .
I know,and btw,you spell "hosea"as you said it,Jose...just in case if you didn't know.

Oh. Thanks. ;P
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| November 1, 2009, 8:24 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk
Oh. Thanks. ;P

You're welcome,I'm surprised that you didn't know that.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:25 pm
Quoting Commander Inferno
Those people just want money and fame for making a huge statement in life. They need to quit it and really think about their "evolution" cause I think it doesn't make sense.

Yup,like if you're going to make a big statement,it might as well at least make sense!!
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| November 1, 2009, 8:27 pm
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Quoting Seph .
You're welcome,I'm surprised that you didn't know that.

Actually, it can be spelled both ways. Hosea, as in the book of the Bible, or Jose, like the Spanish name.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:27 pm
Quoting Seph .
You're welcome,I'm surprised that you didn't know that.

Yeah. I used to know, I can remember now. I just forgot. :P
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| November 1, 2009, 8:28 pm
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Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus
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| November 1, 2009, 8:29 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
Actually, it can be spelled both ways. Hosea, as in the book of the Bible, or Jose, like the Spanish name.

Oh,I didn't know that,well,I'm only 11 so,I don't know THAT much about God and the Bible,do you get what I'm saying?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:30 pm
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Quoting Seph .
Oh,I didn't know that,well,I'm only 11 so,I don't know THAT much about God and the Bible,do you get what I'm saying?

Yes, I understand. But ya better get reading. ;)
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| November 1, 2009, 8:30 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

??well I'll tell you this,God can do ANYTHING,he didn't need aid in mans creation,if you read the Bible you'll see that it was only Adam and Eve,and he took one of Adam's ribs to create Eve,do you get my point?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:32 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
Yes, I understand. But ya better get reading. ;)

Yeah,I read the Bible,but I doubt as much as you,seeing how much you know.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:33 pm
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Quoting Seph .
??well I'll tell you this,God can do ANYTHING,he didn't need aid in mans creation,if you read the Bible you'll see that it was only Adam and Eve,and he took one of Adam's ribs to create Eve,do you get my point?

if god could do that why cant he use evolution?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

Well, it said God made us from "the dust of the earth" and that he made us in his image. Personally, I don't think he used evolution. But, he could have. I guess we'll find out at the last day, eh?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
Well, it said God made us from "the dust of the earth" and that he made us in his image. Personally, I don't think he used evolution. But, he could have. I guess we'll find out at the last day, eh?

yeah but just for the sake of argument what do you people have against evolution
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| November 1, 2009, 8:36 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
if god could do that why cant he use evolution?

I never said he CAN'T use evolution,God can do ANYTHING,the Bible doesn't lie.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:37 pm
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Quoting Lt. John Harland
yeah but just for the sake of argument what do you people have against evolution

Nothing, just our personal opinion. :)
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| November 1, 2009, 8:38 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
yeah but just for the sake of argument what do you people have against evolution

It just doesn't make sense,if humans evolved from monkey,then why is there monkeys living right now?eh?ha,I win.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:39 pm
Quoting Commander Inferno
Also, if we evolved from monkeys, there wouldn't BE anymore monkeys, they would have all evolved! See, there's a flaw!

That's what I just said,but yes,there is many flaws in it.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:39 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

Well, I'll tell you this much.

Seph is right.

God did Create Eve from Adam.

They gave birth to they're children.

They're children gave birth to other children.

Etc.

Why did god need help if The people gave bitrh to the others.

Get what I'm saying?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:41 pm
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Quoting Seph .
It just doesn't make sense,if humans evolved from monkey,then why is there monkeys living right now?eh?ha,I win.

did you read my first comment?
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| November 1, 2009, 8:42 pm
Quoting Commander Inferno
Oh.... Lol I really didn't read all of them... Sorry.

It's fine,I'm glad that you see the flaws in it.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:43 pm
Quoting Seph .
That's what I just said,but yes,there is many flaws in it.

And you aid it after I said it! It's a whole pattern! YAY!

.....

Ok....
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| November 1, 2009, 8:43 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
did you read my first comment?

Yes,yes I did,and if you read my other comments than you should see what I'm saying.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:44 pm
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Quoting Seph .
Yes,yes I did,and if you read my other comments than you should see what I'm saying.

said that the theory is that wee came from species SIMILAR to a chimp and out competed them
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| November 1, 2009, 8:46 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
said that the theory is that wee came from species SIMILAR to a chimp and out competed them

Lol,"wee" :P ok,whatever,you believe what you believe,I'm not gonna turn this into a big arguement.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:48 pm
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Quoting Lt. John Harland
said that the theory is that wee came from species SIMILAR to a chimp and out competed them

But you see, why would God waste time evolving things if He could simply speak us into being? Well, to counter my own argument, for God, time doesn't exist. But, I don't see why God would have us compete with monkeys, just to make us come out in His image. I don't believe He would do it that way.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:51 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
But you see, why would God waste time evolving things if He could simply speak us into being? Well, to counter my own argument, for God, time doesn't exist. But, I don't see why God would have us compete with monkeys, just to make us come out in His image. I don't believe He would do it that way.

Yup,btw how old are you?You know a lot about God.
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| November 1, 2009, 8:55 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
But you see, why would God waste time evolving things if He could simply speak us into being? Well, to counter my own argument, for God, time doesn't exist. But, I don't see why God would have us compete with monkeys, just to make us come out in His image. I don't believe He would do it that way.

Acctually, time DOES exist for god.

In the bible, it says that one day for god is a thousand years.

I jhave something else to say about it, but I don't feel like typing it.

I will if you ask me to though.

:P
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| November 1, 2009, 8:57 pm
Quoting Brady G
HAHAHAHAHA!
Why would you even ask that? You're making yourself look bad here.

How do you figure??I'm asking about people's opinion.
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| November 1, 2009, 9:02 pm
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Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
But you see, why would God waste time evolving things if He could simply speak us into being? Well, to counter my own argument, for God, time doesn't exist. But, I don't see why God would have us compete with monkeys, just to make us come out in His image. I don't believe He would do it that way.

we did not compete w/ monkeys and it is not our business to understand an all-powerful being and personally i find evolution alot easier to believe than an all powerful God who spoke me into existence
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| November 1, 2009, 9:04 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
we did not compete w/ monkeys and it is not our business to understand an all-powerful being and personally i find evolution alot easier to believe than an all powerful God who spoke me into existence

Well then you're not a true Christian.
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| November 1, 2009, 9:07 pm
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Quoting Seph .
Well then you're not a true Christian.

look im doing this for the sake of argument playing devils advocate i believe in the Holy Trinity Jesus the Christ the Holy Scriptures and the Doctrines of the Holy Catholic Church I AM CATHOLIC
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| November 1, 2009, 9:10 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
look im doing this for the sake of argument playing devils advocate i believe in the Holy Trinity Jesus the Christ the Holy Scriptures and the Doctrines of the Holy Catholic Church I AM CATHOLIC

What I was saying is that a true Christian believes that God can do anything no matter what,I have to go,so I didn't get to type this good with all I was saying,sry!
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| November 1, 2009, 9:12 pm
Ok, let's end this arguement now.

I've seen 10000+ to many in this group.

Let's just say we can all have different opionions and go our separate ways.

Ok?
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| November 1, 2009, 9:29 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
This group is for educationg and spreading Christianity. thus, you are trying to end a topic of discussion that has to do with debating religous views and is deflating the purpose of the group. I am here to spread what I belive in. In this instance I cannot be wrong because this is what the pope believes in. So are yout saying that you disagree with the pope of our religion?

I don't believe in a random 'Pope'.

Like I said in my other topic, I'm a Jehovah's witness.

I don't want everyone to decend to pointless arguements.

I think that ruins the group.

You can believe what you believe, and I'll believe what I believe.

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| November 1, 2009, 9:46 pm
Quoting Seph .
That's what I just said,but yes,there is many flaws in it.

Hey seph I know something that will really help you learn a ton of flaws in evoloution listen to Johnathan park CDs they're really good andf they have adventure! Oh and here is another flaw about evoloution if monkeys evolved into humans then wouldn't some of them died while going through the evolving stage? We would probably find remains of half ape half human creatures, but we haven't found anything like that!
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| November 1, 2009, 10:13 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
Umm what? Of course we did! The Pope and the Roman Catholic religion completely agrees with the threory of Darwin-style evolution. The creation stories are not rue they are to be analyzed for symbolism and deeper meaning not just what is written. The question is, who started the Big Bang? Well that question cannot be answered. And that is because no one was there. Now back to evolution it make perfect sense. Okay so you might have a dog. Well that dog is seriously different than the hundreds of generations ago of dogs. But its still around and some styles of wolves and the like are around. Well the same is for apes. Animals and life forms can drastically evolve of a periods of millions of years.

Wow and you call yourself a christian you're believing the total opposite of christianity!!!!!
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| November 1, 2009, 10:15 pm
Quoting CC-1792 Commander Trixe
Wow and you call yourself a christian you're believing the total opposite of christianity!!!!!

First: I DO NOT believe in evoloution it's silly.
Second: The earth is only 6000 to 10000 years old!
Third: We have NEVER EVER found any remains of humanish ape creatures!
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| November 1, 2009, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
Umm what? Of course we did! The Pope and the Roman Catholic religion completely agrees with the threory of Darwin-style evolution. The creation stories are not rue they are to be analyzed for symbolism and deeper meaning not just what is written. The question is, who started the Big Bang? Well that question cannot be answered. And that is because no one was there. Now back to evolution it make perfect sense. Okay so you might have a dog. Well that dog is seriously different than the hundreds of generations ago of dogs. But its still around and some styles of wolves and the like are around. Well the same is for apes. Animals and life forms can drastically evolve of a periods of millions of years.

your dog example isnt evolution its breeding there is no new species
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| November 1, 2009, 10:38 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

well, there's just one little phrase that denies that: "...to reproduce after their own kind." not to mention that adam was made of dust, not monkey. :)
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| November 2, 2009, 9:02 am
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

well, there's just one little phrase that denies that: "...to reproduce after their own kind." not to mention that adam was made of dust, not monkey. :)
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| November 2, 2009, 9:02 am
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
I don't believe it either. A divine creator is so much more logical than random evolution.


I agree!

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| November 2, 2009, 2:18 pm
I believe in evolution.
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| November 2, 2009, 2:20 pm
Quoting Seph .
I know,and btw,you spell "hosea"as you said it,Jose...just in case if you didn't know.

i know!!!!! I knew it wasn't true. And 99.95 of my class even the teacher thought it was true!!!
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| November 2, 2009, 2:22 pm
Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
Actually, it can be spelled both ways. Hosea, as in the book of the Bible, or Jose, like the Spanish name.


Why is everyone arguing about this? It doesn't matter how you spell it.
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| November 2, 2009, 2:22 pm
Quoting Seph .
I know,and btw,you spell "hosea"as you said it,Jose...just in case if you didn't know.

i know!!!!! I knew it wasn't true. And 99.99 of my class even the teacher thought it was true!!!
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| November 2, 2009, 2:23 pm
Quoting Seph .
I know,and btw,you spell "hosea"as you said it,Jose...just in case if you didn't know.

i know!!!!! I knew it wasn't true. And 99.99 of my class even the teacher thought it was true!!!
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| November 2, 2009, 2:24 pm
I believe in evolution.
The amount of shared DNA men and monkeys have, and overall similarity to them is what have convinced me.
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| November 2, 2009, 3:19 pm
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Quoting Blade-Hawk
Acctually, time DOES exist for god.

In the bible, it says that one day for god is a thousand years.

I jhave something else to say about it, but I don't feel like typing it.

I will if you ask me to though.

:P

The passage was meant to show time doesn't exist for God, not prove it does. He created time and he exists out of it.
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| November 2, 2009, 5:41 pm
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Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
you're correct the dog example was a bad one. BUT POPE BENEDICT THE 16TH AND THE PAST POPE JOHN PAUL HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT CHRISTIANITY (ANY RELIGION THAT BELIEVE IN CHRIST BEING HUMAN AND DEVINE AS THE SON OF GOD AND PART OF THE TRIUNE OF GOD ((HOLY SPIRIT, GOD THE FATHER, AND JESUS CHRIST)) IS A FIRM SUPPORTER OF EVOLUTION AND THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT ALL 100% TRUE. thats the flaw of a lot of you, the bible is not supposed to read exactly as it was. the creation stories are symbolism, and represent other things. they are not factual accounts of the world's creation, they are meant to convey God's being about forever. Basically you cannot argue that evolution is wrong when the Christian religion supports evolution being true. Also jehovah's witnesses are not christian they are their own sect.
first, are you Roman Catholic?
second, i was trying to keep you from making a mistake in your arguement and in case you havnt noticed i have bee arguing FOR evolution
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| November 2, 2009, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
This group is for educationg and spreading Christianity. thus, you are trying to end a topic of discussion that has to do with debating religous views and is deflating the purpose of the group. I am here to spread what I belive in. In this instance I cannot be wrong because this is what the pope believes in. So are yout saying that you disagree with the pope of our religion?

Really. So the pope is the supreme leader of our religion? If he believes it, then it has to be right. Wrong. Just because the pope believes something does not mean it's true, he can make mistakes too. Also, I HIGHLY doubt he believes we evolved from monkeys.

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| November 2, 2009, 5:46 pm
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Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
christianity has stated that evolution was the way humans came about. The creationist stories are not to be read literally. They are to be read and analyzed for the deeper meaning in them. That is that Gofd has been present for all eternity and no one knows who or what started the big bang. Christianity thinks that god set the world into motion and has been overwatching and present in humans lives ever since.

Lie. Christianity doesn't state that evolution in true. In fact, it implies the opposite. So, I beg you not to spread unbased lies about a religion you don't undersatnd.
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| November 2, 2009, 5:50 pm
Quoting CC-1792 Commander Trixe
First: I DO NOT believe in evoloution it's silly.
Second: The earth is only 6000 to 10000 years old!
Third: We have NEVER EVER found any remains of humanish ape creatures!

trixe, the earth is estimated to be over 500 million years old. and we have found remains. we found them buried in a cave in france, also were the first cave-paintings were found. we even found a body of a 2 ft tall ape woman in a cave in Indonesia! please people, look up your facts before stating them. oh, and i completely agree with evolution.
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| November 2, 2009, 5:56 pm
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Quoting Spartan 26 "Rusty"
Lie. Christianity doesn't state that evolution in true. In fact, it implies the opposite. So, I beg you not to spread unbased lies about a religion you don't undersatnd.
okay thats an interpretation show me in the bible where word for word it says there is no such thing as evolution

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| November 2, 2009, 6:10 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Ok, to those saying the Bible is meant for 'just stories'. Please, PLEASE, do understand, that they are real. They ARE NOT just little stories. They are nonfiction.
Secondly, to those siding with evolution, and those saying it is in the bible, It most assuredly isn't. I whole-heartedly belive Evolution is a sham, really. Just as some believe God is a sham. It, in reality, takes more faith to believe in Evolution, than it does in God, that is a fact.

can you show me where in the bible it states that evolution is fake
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| November 2, 2009, 7:12 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Right in Genesis. God created the Earth.
Did you really have to ask that question?

how? thats the hole
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| November 2, 2009, 7:24 pm
I am Methodist, and frankly, I don't know what to believe. I think that God made the Big Bang, and created evolutionary circumstances. I believe in a mixture of creationism and evolution. A little more in favor of evolution.
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| November 2, 2009, 7:31 pm
Evolution is False for many reasons:

1. Apes do have a similarity to man, but scientist are trying to cash in on this similarity.

2. Man has the ability to think. Apes cannot think, but rely on instinc.

3. God would not have created an animal to become His children. It is like making a home computer so it can turn into a Play Station.

4. The Bible does have symbolic phrases, but their internal meaning is completely true. The prophets and Apostles would not have written a False Sory of the Human!

5. If Humans did come from Apes, then You and Me are apes, the Prophets were apes, and Jesus was an ape. God Himself would be an ape, since He made us in His image!

I could continue on & on & on.....
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| November 2, 2009, 7:38 pm
Quoting nickeal1 .
trixe, the earth is estimated to be over 500 million years old. and we have found remains. we found them buried in a cave in france, also were the first cave-paintings were found. we even found a body of a 2 ft tall ape woman in a cave in Indonesia! please people, look up your facts before stating them. oh, and i completely agree with evolution.

Estimated by what? carbon dating? That's the most unreliable test ever invented! Based on the erosion of Niagara, the Earth is proven to be only about 7000 years old. And based on the accumulation of lunar dust, the earth is about 10000 years old.
Also, how could the creation of the universe possibly have been accident? It's too complex. I'm taking Physics right now, and all the stuff that works can't just be coincidence. And without the proper environment, all life on earth could not have existed. Biology proves this, too. Think about how diverse each kind of creature is, and what specific things it needs to survive. It couldn't just have come about by accident.
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| November 2, 2009, 8:27 pm
Quoting Sergeant Pepper
Estimated by what? carbon dating? That's the most unreliable test ever invented! Based on the erosion of Niagara, the Earth is proven to be only about 7000 years old. And based on the accumulation of lunar dust, the earth is about 10000 years old.
Also, how could the creation of the universe possibly have been accident? It's too complex. I'm taking Physics right now, and all the stuff that works can't just be coincidence. And without the proper environment, all life on earth could not have existed. Biology proves this, too. Think about how diverse each kind of creature is, and what specific things it needs to survive. It couldn't just have come about by accident.

um... erosion has been happening sense the earth was formed, so that IS NOT reliable. well, at-least it is less that carbon dating.

oh, and to end this debate, my friend, who is VERY religious, said that god could create the earlier humans, but change them any way he wants!
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| November 3, 2009, 5:12 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Really.
Genesis SAYS DIRECTLY God Created the Earth. So how, oh, how, could that NOT say Evolution is fake?

are you gonna answer my question
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| November 3, 2009, 5:13 pm
 Group admin 
Evolution is fake. God spoke the world into existence, just read Genesis. There are no "missing links". Everything about our planet is perfect. How can you think things simply evolved? There are no inbetween creatures.
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| November 3, 2009, 5:35 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
I do believe I did.
Do you not know your own question? You asked where in the bible it says Evolution is fake. Just read Genesis.

okay... genesis states that God created the Heavens and the earth. Okay? Now, how did he creat the heavens and the earth?
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| November 3, 2009, 7:06 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Simple, He's God.
How did something come from nothing, Harland, because, most assuredly, there must have been something there to start it to begin with.
Oh, and please do not dance around my point, just answer the question.

alright i dont understand your question can you ask it plainly and in as few words as possible
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| November 3, 2009, 7:15 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
You don't understand my question.
REALLY.
Then how the 'loody 'eff can you believe in evolution?

Thanks Phazezorzezezez. I agree... I wrote a research paper on the issue last year in 8th grade. GAHHH!!! My teacher thought I was crazy being on creationism's side, and he disagreed with me. And gave me a 70. IT WAS A GOOD PAPER!!! I STRONGLY dislike that guy.
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| November 3, 2009, 7:20 pm
I dislike scientest, because they don't care about religion. they just care about MONEY!!!
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| November 3, 2009, 7:23 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
You don't understand my question.
REALLY.
Then how the 'loody 'eff can you believe in evolution?

look can you answer my question or not
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| November 3, 2009, 7:23 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Ah, but can you answer MY questions?
No, of course not.

tell me your questions and will answer them. okay
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| November 3, 2009, 7:29 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
...
Dude, really.
Just read up.
/facepalm.

do you want to get my answer or not
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| November 3, 2009, 7:31 pm
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Quoting Sgt. Magnum

Doesn't make any sence at all!! Why would scientist think that? God was the one who created all creatures... right?

you guys are so single minded look recite the basics of christianity WITHOUT religious terms or names
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| November 3, 2009, 7:35 pm
Quoting Matt Shack
I dislike scientest, because they don't care about religion. they just care about MONEY!!!

matt, please, scientist want to find facts! they don't care about freckin money!
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| November 3, 2009, 7:47 pm
Quoting nickeal1 .
matt, please, scientist want to find facts! they don't care about freckin money!

ok, then why is religion giting shoved away, like a old sock?
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| November 3, 2009, 7:49 pm
guys, why can't god create "monkeys" in the beginning, dislike them, and change them in the future? what wrong with that?

oh, and to answer a question, monkeys can still be alive because when creatures evolve, sometimes they split off into branches. thats how we got the leopard and the lion. ( or any other animal cousins)
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| November 3, 2009, 7:50 pm
Quoting Matt Shack
ok, then why is religion giting shoved away, like a old sock?

because they are men of fact, they don't like going through a book reading something that they can't prove. so they push it away, and look at proven facts. in other terms, they use their left side of their brain more.
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| November 3, 2009, 7:52 pm
Quoting nickeal1 .
because they are men of fact, they don't like going through a book reading something that they can't prove. so they push it away, and look at proven facts. in other terms, they use their left side of their brain more.

our religion is dieing
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| November 3, 2009, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Matt Shack
ok, then why is religion giting shoved away, like a old sock?

because they dont want a God they cant understand
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| November 3, 2009, 7:53 pm
Quoting Matt Shack
our religion is dieing

trust me, it isn't. base off how much of Christianity was spread throughout the "new world" from 1500-1700 we'll be lasting for quite awhile.
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| November 3, 2009, 7:54 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
because they dont want a God they cant understand

THAT is very true.
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| November 3, 2009, 7:55 pm
Quoting nickeal1 .
trust me, it isn't. base off how much of Christianity was spread throughout the "new world" from 1500-1700 we'll be lasting for quite awhile.

well, I still don't like scientest.
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| November 3, 2009, 7:55 pm
Quoting Matt Shack
well, I still don't like scientest.

thats OK, as long as you don't single out one. a lot of very religious people dislike them. to bad. :/
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| November 3, 2009, 7:57 pm
Quoting nickeal1 .
thats OK, as long as you don't single out one. a lot of very religious people dislike them. to bad. :/

why do they teach us christians about it, if they know we do not belive it?
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| November 3, 2009, 7:58 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Lt. John Harland
you guys are so single minded look recite the basics of christianity WITHOUT religious terms or names
...
Says the guy who is so single-minded he only accepts evolution as being right.
id10t.
i do believe in evolution but i will lisiten to other ideas as long as they are presented intelligently
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| November 3, 2009, 8:17 pm
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Quoting Matt Shack
why do they teach us christians about it, if they know we do not belive it?

so we can argue against it intelligetly
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| November 3, 2009, 8:19 pm
Sorry if this has been said before, but most evolutionists believe that humans and monkeys come from a common ancestor.
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| November 3, 2009, 8:42 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i believe that God used evolution to aid in mans creation. and actually the theory is that man evolved from lesser species SIMILAR to the chimpanzee to name a few homo erectus neanderthal and australopithicus

Ok, time for a scientist to take over! So, 'for the sake of argument' if God used natural processes to create man, then what do we owe Him in return? Nothing, period. What authority does He have over us? None, we just happened along as surely as we would have without Him.

Without a special, individual creation, God is nothing to us but a big bully who's trying to tell us what and what not to do.

And what about those "Tranistional forms" like from dinosaurs to birds? Rats to bats? Fish to reptile? I strongly implore you, invoking the very name of God himself, to read this article: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0612school-year.asp

And not just this article, but comb the entire website of answersingenesis.org to provide you with a truly solid foundation in your faith.

I'm not trying to sound trite, or fake, when I say that this company honestly turned my faith around and made it real. I encourage you to do the same.
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| November 3, 2009, 8:58 pm
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Quoting King Jaron
Sorry if this has been said before, but most evolutionists believe that humans and monkeys come from a common ancestor.

yep australopithicus(i think thats how you spell it)
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| November 3, 2009, 9:00 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Lt. John Harland
you guys are so single minded look recite the basics of christianity WITHOUT religious terms or names
...
Says the guy who is so single-minded he only accepts evolution as being right.
id10t.
i dont believe in evolution im arguing for it b/c no one else would

You...

Don't believe in evolution....

And your argueing for it...

AND...

You said earlier that you DO believe in evolution...

Do YOU see something wrong here?
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| November 3, 2009, 9:01 pm
Quoting Sgt. Magnum
Me neither but science gave us alot and took away alot...

Like what? Science has given the truly grounded Christian only that much more to worship his God with! Only if you are uninformed do you feel that "Oh, boy, more evidence for evolution." If you look at it ALL through the eyes of scripture, then you can only praise God for it, and realize that it's all "Evidence for Creation!"
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| November 3, 2009, 9:01 pm
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Quoting Blade-Hawk
You...

Don't believe in evolution....

And your argueing for it...

AND...

You said earlier that you DO believe in evolution...

Do YOU see something wrong here?

im open to new ideas and speculations my mom doesnt believe in evolution but my dad does who by the way is a strong catholic and what i said was a mistake i do i need to edit that thank for pointing that out
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| November 3, 2009, 9:36 pm
I don't belive man evolved, but others may have. One theory of mine is that god controlled spiecies via evolution.
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| November 3, 2009, 10:27 pm
Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

I believe what the Bible says.
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| November 4, 2009, 10:20 am
Can someone explain the whole "Moondust Buildup" theory?
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| November 4, 2009, 11:24 am
Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

Heck no! It makes no sense. Where did the monkey (ape, chimpanzee, ardi, whatever you like to call it) come from? A cell? Where did the cell come from? The molten mass of melted glob? Where did this molten mass of melted glob come from? There is always a gap in it.
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| November 4, 2009, 5:24 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
how? thats the hole

Well, he is GOD!!! There needs no explaining HOW!!! He created the heavens and the earth, did those evolve from monkeys? I DIDN'T THINK SO! What about light? That surely didn't evolve from monkeys. There is your how, he is God, he can do all things.
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| November 4, 2009, 5:26 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
1950's: Pope Pious the 11th makes papal decree for Roman Catholiscm. It says (in latin though) that Catholiicsm now embraces evolution and that it is too. That the bible was written down through the years as a means of symbolism. The creationist theories are not true, made to be read from a deeper meaning. The question was: who started the big bang in evolution? Well Catholics believe God set the Earth in motion. He set of the spark for that big bang to finallly happen, for all of that dust to start swirling around in space and the earth forming from a tiny rock with the help of its gravity. Then bacteria and other tiny cells evolved through millions of years of evolution to form plants animals dinosaurs more animals and plants and the earliest humans. Everything was evolving a little in each generation. Man descended from monkey. There are some around today because that kind didn't evolve into the human we know today. Why? Ask a scientist I'm not an expert on the matter. God has been present forever and has watched over the earth he created. The free will humans eventually developed helped them to change and shape the earth. So God has let us shape the world. The earth has been around for millions of years. That is complete fact. Anyway, this is what Catholics believe in and if you don't say you're of another religion, hopefully another sect of Christianity (because that's why you're in this group). Or you are a Catholic just not conforming to the proper beliefs. BAM.

Is this what you believe?
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| November 4, 2009, 5:45 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
yes my good man. I'm 16 and a very religious Roman Catholic, which is the largest Christian religion. I will defend it to the death, and also question it to the death. I question all religions.
I really, in no way am trying to make fun of your religion, but I'm laughing right now.


did you need to say that? i respect that he is willing to defend what he believes.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:04 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
Did I need to? Absolutely not. But you do have to think. Do you need to be here? Do you need to lecture me on what I already know? Nope. Like I said before, I in no way mean to patronize or mortify his religion, I was merely making my point. I have the right to say what I want to say, and I will defend that.

argue intelligently. try that.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:15 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
So what is your religion based upon. Anyway, the bible is not meant to be read literally, word for word, historically 100% accurate in my religion. That's what Catholics believe.

I believe it is 100% historically accurate. I believe every word it says, from genisis to revelations. That is what I believe.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:18 pm
Quoting King Borether
I believe it is 100% historically accurate. I believe every word it says, from genisis to revelations. That is what I believe.

Yes ,but if you don't believe enoch and the book of the watchers the Apocrypha and the rest then that statement is...false.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:19 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
that is the extreme opposite of Catholicsm, just to point out. What do you practice?

I wouldn't say christianity is a practice, in fact it isn't even a religion. True christianity is a relationship with god.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:23 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
I went to his church once and it's like born again Christian themed.

That's because that is what christianity is, being born again through Christ. About Jesus taking our sins and dying on the cross so we could be saved.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:30 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
that term i used means (in my perspective) the fake stuff on tv

On tv being, what? The bible is were the truth is, tv has become corrupt.
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| November 4, 2009, 6:36 pm
Quoting Timothy Mably
Old discussion. We wern't made from monkeys. Period.

Thank you, but what do you believe about creation?
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| November 4, 2009, 7:03 pm
Quoting Timothy Mably
The Bi8ble. The 8 is silent.

Is that a joke?
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| November 4, 2009, 9:22 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk
No way hosea.

Not true.

One reason:

Why would there still be monkeys on the earth if they are all supposed to evolve?


you see people competing day by day, it is this compettition that pushed some primates into staying as we see monkeys today, there are fossils and skeletons found of short monkey like humanoids from in between the emergence of monkey and mankind, what are these, gods rejects ? demons ? evil spirits ? devil children ? or are they just misunderstood dead animals, think about it

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| November 5, 2009, 2:20 pm
Quoting lewa1010 the author and bionicle freak

you see people competing day by day, it is this compettition that pushed some primates into staying as we see monkeys today, there are fossils and skeletons found of short monkey like humanoids from in between the emergence of monkey and mankind, what are these, gods rejects ? demons ? evil spirits ? devil children ? or are they just misunderstood dead animals, think about it

totally misunderstood dead animals. Remember ardi? It was supposed to bridge the gap of evolution. It turned out to be in the cat family.
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| November 5, 2009, 6:01 pm
apostles and saints saying evolution is wrong fail, they had no idea about science and whatnot, and wthout science, you would not be reading this on the internet now, i cant wait to hear someone look at a laptop in a church and shout "WHAT BE THIS BLASPHEMY"...

seriously, deleting my previou comment after i politely rattled the cage only makes me want to have a comment permanently here, i do not intened to offend anyoen, but in this world any single word can be wapred to offend people, so i guess i cant help it

lol

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| November 8, 2009, 4:15 pm
apostles and saints saying evolution is wrong fail, they had no idea about science and whatnot, and wthout science, you would not be reading this on the internet now, i cant wait to hear someone look at a laptop in a church and shout "WHAT BE THIS BLASPHEMY"...

seriously, deleting my previou comment after i politely rattled the cage only makes me want to have a comment permanently here, i do not intened to offend anyoen, but in this world any single word can be wapred to offend people, so i guess i cant help it

lol

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| November 8, 2009, 4:15 pm
I don't, i mean, if that did happen then why did it stop? Explain that!
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| November 8, 2009, 5:07 pm
Quoting General Qua-cor Peala
I don't, i mean, if that did happen then why did it stop? Explain that!

it hasn't stopped. we are evolving through generations after generations. it just takes hundreds of years for a significant change.


my theory is that the world will fill up with water, and we will evolve into water creatures will gills, fins, etc.
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| November 8, 2009, 5:31 pm
Just want to throw this in...

God made us PERFECT(well we were until sin came along). He didn't make us and then change His mind. Doesn't the Bible sat We are His favorite creation. So what, scientist found other human-ish looking remains... what if God made other creatures that looked like us? Do You really think He would have made a mistake?
I don't believe in evolution.

Just a thought...
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| November 8, 2009, 5:57 pm
Did you ever think this: who says God only made one creation? Who says that monkeys weren't his test subjects and they ended up evolving into us? You are you to say that evolution is impossible? God surely thinks in alot more stuff than just us...
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| November 9, 2009, 7:58 am
On the subject of countering the evolutionary time line AND dates AND evolutionary links. 1. time line. There have been people bones found in rocks supposedly millions of yeas old, way before people came on the seen. How would an evolutionist explain that? 2. dating. 20 years after the eruption of mount st. helens NEWLY FORMED lava was tested and it came out as millions of years old, when really it was only twenty years old. 3. links.....
THERE ARE NO LINKS!!!!! ALL the supposed human ancestor links have ben proven to be A REAL APE, A REAL HUMAN, OR A REAL HOAX!!!!

I leave you to think.
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| November 12, 2009, 11:35 pm
Quoting CC-1792 Commander Trixe
Hey seph I know something that will really help you learn a ton of flaws in evoloution listen to Johnathan park CDs they're really good andf they have adventure! Oh and here is another flaw about evolution if monkeys evolved into humans then wouldn't some of them died while going through the evolving stage? We would probably find remains of half ape half human creatures, but we haven't found anything like that!

I totally agree with Trixe the Jonathan park CDs are AWSOME!!! LISTEN TO THEM!!!

CLICK HERE!! http://www.visionforum.com/booksandmedia/productlist.aspx?categoryid=218
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| November 12, 2009, 11:42 pm
Quoting Elite commando Broadside
well, I am a true Christian and don't believe in evolution, but for the sake of argument.....
Counter to 2 that's noT a valid argument, science has proved that the lava is indeed old due to the movement of tectonic plates. and we don't run around dating lava, we date sesimentary rock or use carbon dating
3's counter well my house could be sitting on the missing link. not all the earth is an arceoligical dig.
again, I am a christian, and this is just to point out some things

2's counter counter, 1 Science CAN NOT prove ANYTHING. 2 1 sorry it was a volcanic rock but I can guarantee you at the time of dating it was only less than 20 years old. The scientist used radioisotope dating.
3's counter counter, people have been searching for the missing links for more than a hundred years. Lets say that the earth really is millions of year old and that evolution did happen. We should be able to find hundred upon thousands of links but we cant even find one.

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| November 13, 2009, 11:16 pm
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You did NOT HAVE THIS ARGUMENT WITHOUT ME!!!!!
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| November 28, 2009, 12:09 pm
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Quoting Blade-Hawk
No way hosea.

Not true.

One reason:

Why would there still be monkeys on the earth if they are all supposed to evolve?

because all of those are already adapted to their climate?

and humans were supposed to originate from one spot only(around affrica that aways)
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| November 29, 2009, 6:20 am
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
You did NOT HAVE THIS ARGUMENT WITHOUT ME!!!!!

sorry man youve missed a bunch
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| November 29, 2009, 10:54 am
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Quoting Lt. John Harland
sorry man youve missed a bunch

including you changing your pic?
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| November 29, 2009, 4:18 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
because all of those are already adapted to their climate?

and humans were supposed to originate from one spot only(around affrica that aways)

Are you arguing FOR then?

Evolution is based on fossil evidence. that is evidence that comes from less that 0.01% of what was there. How can that give a good picture of what there was and what happened? It can't! And what is DNA evidence? it says that we are similar to chimps, so we must originate at the same place. We are 50% lemon then.

Cmon people! It all makes no sense! There was a famous dig, named the Cambrian Explosion because in the lower layers there wasnt much that could be interpreted as life, but then one one layer, there are tonnes of different species. If evolution was right, then shouldn't there be progressively more instead of them all popping up all at once?

Well evolutionists then made up a new part to the theory! they said that variation will explode when there is not enough of it, resulting in all of those creatures all popping up at once!

Mugs.

Ive had my rant. A good two paragraphs.
A little late, but better than never...
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| November 29, 2009, 4:35 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
Are you arguing FOR then?

Evolution is based on fossil evidence. that is evidence that comes from less that 0.01% of what was there. How can that give a good picture of what there was and what happened? It can't! And what is DNA evidence? it says that we are similar to chimps, so we must originate at the same place. We are 50% lemon then.

Cmon people! It all makes no sense! There was a famous dig, named the Cambrian Explosion because in the lower layers there wasnt much that could be interpreted as life, but then one one layer, there are tonnes of different species. If evolution was right, then shouldn't there be progressively more instead of them all popping up all at once?

Well evolutionists then made up a new part to the theory! they said that variation will explode when there is not enough of it, resulting in all of those creatures all popping up at once!

Mugs.

Ive had my rant. A good two paragraphs.
A little late, but better than never...

its also based on the study of one, charles darwin(who spent most of his life in the field, you should try it before arguing someone elses points!) who dissected animals from now!

anyway i dont argue for, i argue an entirely different point

god made us so we could adapt, god made us able to evolve so to speak

anyway what do we care, if it is true we wont be alive to see it, and if the mayans were correct even our kids wont see it
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| November 29, 2009, 4:41 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
its also based on the study of one, charles darwin(who spent most of his life in the field, you should try it before arguing someone elses points!) who dissected animals from now!

anyway i dont argue for, i argue an entirely different point

god made us so we could adapt, god made us able to evolve so to speak

anyway what do we care, if it is true we wont be alive to see it, and if the mayans were correct even our kids wont see it

I know the point your arguing. Evolution is wrong anyway. And, you didn't exactly respond to anything I just said then...
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| November 29, 2009, 4:45 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
I know the point your arguing. Evolution is wrong anyway. And, you didn't exactly respond to anything I just said then...

except for where i stand on the argument, where my evidence comes from and why everything you said about the fossils were the "oldest" evidence
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| November 29, 2009, 4:48 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
except for where i stand on the argument, where my evidence comes from and why everything you said about the fossils were the "oldest" evidence

...and where we got all of our convictions on evolution from.
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| November 29, 2009, 4:49 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
including you changing your pic?

3 times 4 if you were left when i was still Colonel Archer
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| November 29, 2009, 4:51 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
...and where we got all of our convictions on evolution from.

until a man named charles came along and dared to shake the churchs way(shakes arms high above my head) just like galleleo and da vinci and other great minds, who we know to be correct this day!
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| November 29, 2009, 4:55 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
until a man named charles came along and dared to shake the churchs way(shakes arms high above my head) just like galleleo and da vinci and other great minds, who we know to be correct this day!

No, he is the one who introduced the logic. Eceryone else just had an idea.
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| November 29, 2009, 4:58 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
until a man named charles came along and dared to shake the churchs way(shakes arms high above my head) just like galleleo and da vinci and other great minds, who we know to be correct this day!

No, he is the one who introduced the logic. Eceryone else just had an idea.
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| November 29, 2009, 4:59 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
No, he is the one who introduced the logic. Eceryone else just had an idea.

who gallileo? who dared to suggest the sun was at the center of our galaxy, and not the earth?
or da vinci, who dared to suggest the body was made of more than four fluids? honestly, always through history the church has stopped progress for progress sakes. although i understand their reasons for it, i do not understand why they did it. the sooner they accept evoloutionism, the sonner we can stop arguing.
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| November 29, 2009, 5:04 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
who gallileo? who dared to suggest the sun was at the center of our galaxy, and not the earth?
or da vinci, who dared to suggest the body was made of more than four fluids? honestly, always through history the church has stopped progress for progress sakes. although i understand their reasons for it, i do not understand why they did it. the sooner they accept evoloutionism, the sonner we can stop arguing.

The trouble with you is that you already expect people to believe that its true. Your not actually arguing any points other than charles came up with an idea with more evidence than most against what the church thought was herecy. I don't think it's herecy but it is not true. It is a theory based on fossil evidence.
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| November 30, 2009, 9:10 am
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
The trouble with you is that you already expect people to believe that its true. Your not actually arguing any points other than charles came up with an idea with more evidence than most against what the church thought was herecy. I don't think it's herecy but it is not true. It is a theory based on fossil evidence.

i dont expect anything beyond the unexpected ark, i told you im on no ones side.
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| November 30, 2009, 11:06 am
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Quoting Father Khal
i dont expect anything beyond the unexpected ark, i told you im on no ones side.

Huh?
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| November 30, 2009, 12:09 pm
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
Huh?

mua ha ha ha baffled
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| December 3, 2009, 10:59 am
Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey?

I dont bother myself with those kinds of questions. Doesnt concern me... ~Miller
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| December 5, 2009, 11:03 am
Quoting The501stLego

Nope. Scientists just think they're better than God. (Which they're not, of course.)
Also, with the theory of "Earth was made when dust and rock collided". That proves most scientists are dumb.

Actually, rock and dust were pulled into each other by their won gravity, forming a clod of dirt and rock. The preassure on the core eventually turned it into molten rock, and Earth was pulled into the Sun's gravity.
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| December 5, 2009, 11:31 am
Quoting Detective Miller
Actually, rock and dust were pulled into each other by their on gravity, forming a clod of dirt and rock. The preassure on the core eventually turned it into molten rock, and Earth was pulled into the Sun's gravity.


Actually the rock and dust's gravity pressure would also create a pressure going the opposite way so they could never connect to form anything. It makes better sense to say God created it how it is, wear it is.

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| December 6, 2009, 5:25 am
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks

Actually the rock and dust's gravity pressure would also create a pressure going the opposite way

Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about preassure, its about gravity. The preassure forced the rock into eachother, effectivly sticking them together. ~Miller
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| December 6, 2009, 9:45 am
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Quoting Father Khal
mua ha ha ha baffled

no... you just didnt make any sense... and now you dont want to explain what you meant because you dont really know what your talking about... you just support him because its unconventional im guessing.
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| December 6, 2009, 12:41 pm
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Quoting Detective Miller
Actually, rock and dust were pulled into each other by their won gravity, forming a clod of dirt and rock. The preassure on the core eventually turned it into molten rock, and Earth was pulled into the Sun's gravity.

It takes more believing to think that the universe was made by energy and matter forming out of nowhere, which explode with enough force which allow it to expand indefinantly, which is just about enough to keep it form collapsing in on itself, with the right balance of each element, force and radiation...

what a load of twoddle...
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| December 6, 2009, 12:54 pm
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about preassure, its about gravity. The preassure forced the rock into each other, effectivly sticking them together. ~Miller


Hold on first Where did the rocks come from? If they came from the big bang, then wouldn't that propel the rocks away to fast for gravity to cause them to connect. Also when a star explodes wouldn't they just all the debris stick again? But NO ONE has ever seen that happenQuoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about pressure, its about gravity. The pressure (huh? but you just said it's not about pressure) forced the rocks into each other, effectivly sticking them together. ~Miller
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| December 7, 2009, 9:13 pm
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about preassure, its about gravity. The preassure forced the rock into each other, effectivly sticking them together. ~Miller


Hold on first Where did the rocks come from? If they came from the big bang, then wouldn't that propel the rocks away to fast for gravity to cause them to connect. Also when a star explodes wouldn't all the debris stick? But NO ONE has ever seen that happen.

quoting Miller, Thomas Miller.
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about pressure, its about gravity. The pressure (huh? but you just said it's not about pressure) forced the rocks into each other, effectivly sticking them together.

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| December 7, 2009, 9:22 pm
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about preassure, its about gravity. The preassure forced the rock into each other, effectivly sticking them together. ~Miller


Hold on first Where did the rocks come from? If they came from the big bang, then wouldn't that propel the rocks away to fast for gravity to cause them to connect. Also when a star explodes wouldn't all the debris stick? But NO ONE has ever seen that happen.

quoting Miller, Thomas Miller.
Preassure is always on the inside, never on the outside. Its not about pressure, its about gravity. The pressure (huh? but you just said it's not about pressure) forced the rocks into each other, effectivly sticking them together.

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| December 7, 2009, 9:23 pm
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
(huh? but you just said it's not about pressure)

Could you save the questions till the end, please?
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| December 7, 2009, 9:33 pm
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
Could you save the questions till the end, please?

Huh?
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| December 7, 2009, 10:12 pm
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
Huh?

...anyways, The preassure on the inside turned the core into molten rock. There. Questions, anyone?
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| December 8, 2009, 8:13 am
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
...anyways, The preassure on the inside turned the core into molten rock. There. Questions, anyone?

How bought I say it like this.
The force going that way ->, would create a force going that way <- and this force would be stronger than the force going that way ->, So they couldn't form molten rock.

Anymore questions?

X ->O O<- ->OO<- ->@<- X
Yes ->O<-->O<- ->O<- ->O<- ->O<- ->O<- Yes

BTW do you really believe in evolution or are you just doing this for the argument?
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| December 8, 2009, 9:15 am
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
BTW do you really believe in evolution or are you just doing this for the argument?

A little of both, to be frank. ~Miller
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| December 8, 2009, 6:53 pm
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
A little of both, to be frank. ~Miller

How is that possible?

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| December 9, 2009, 12:03 am
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
How is that possible?

Come on, man, think about it for a second. ~Miller
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| December 9, 2009, 8:17 am
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
How bought I say it like this.
The force going that way ->, would create a force going that way <- and this force would be stronger than the force going that way ->, So they couldn't form molten rock.

*coughvolcanoescough*
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| December 9, 2009, 8:18 am
Quoting Miller, Thomas Miller...
*coughvolcanoescough*

Hold on is this in space or were?

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| December 9, 2009, 8:28 am
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Quoting ArkAngel 7777
It takes more believing to think that the universe was made by energy and matter forming out of nowhere, which explode with enough force which allow it to expand indefinantly, which is just about enough to keep it form collapsing in on itself, with the right balance of each element, force and radiation...

what a load of twoddle...
he was talking about the formation of the planet not the universe.....

btw did u see that conglomeneration of ppriest assembling to discuss aliens? the main question-what will they taste like? lol

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| December 9, 2009, 12:03 pm
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
Hold on is this in space or what?

Come on man, get with it. Miller
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| December 9, 2009, 5:40 pm
Quoting Seph .
Do you believe what scientists say,how they think that man evolved from monkey??I DO NOT,it just doesn't make sense.

God isnt a monkey, so i wouldnt say we were. but we could have been created through evolution,maybe.
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| January 7, 2010, 7:21 pm
Quoting Seph .
??well I'll tell you this,God can do ANYTHING,he didn't need aid in mans creation,if you read the Bible you'll see that it was only Adam and Eve,and he took one of Adam's ribs to create Eve,do you get my point?

The book (genesis) was written by Moses, and half of the time no humans are created, or are knocked out, or something like that, so we dont know even close to exactly how God created the earth. ALSO, the seven days could have been seven periods of time(example;seven years, months, etc.), as, again, Moses wrote that, not God.


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| January 7, 2010, 7:25 pm
Quoting Seph .
I never said he CAN'T use evolution,God can do ANYTHING,the Bible doesn't lie.

nope. it Doesnt lie, it is just miswritten or changed a little bit, altered, you could say.
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| January 7, 2010, 7:28 pm
Quoting Seph .
It just doesn't make sense,if humans evolved from monkey,then why is there monkeys living right now?eh?ha,I win.

That isnt nececcarilly <- cant spell good :( just monkey to man. evolution can be the development of creatures over thousands of years to adapt to a different climate, like tadpoles growing legs and becoming a frog.
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| January 7, 2010, 7:32 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
Umm what? Of course we did! The Pope and the Roman Catholic religion completely agrees with the threory of Darwin-style evolution. The creation stories are not rue they are to be analyzed for symbolism and deeper meaning not just what is written. The question is, who started the Big Bang? Well that question cannot be answered. And that is because no one was there. Now back to evolution it make perfect sense. Okay so you might have a dog. Well that dog is seriously different than the hundreds of generations ago of dogs. But its still around and some styles of wolves and the like are around. Well the same is for apes. Animals and life forms can drastically evolve of a periods of millions of years.

about the big bang... Well zeus had too much raisin bran, and well.....you get the picture...
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| January 7, 2010, 7:37 pm
Quoting Matt Kostamo
ALSO, the seven days could have been seven periods of time(example;seven years, months, etc.)


The Bible clearly states ther were seven DAYS not months years etc.
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| January 7, 2010, 8:20 pm
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
The Bible clearly states ther were seven DAYS not months years etc.

The Hebrew word here can either be interpreted as literally day, or as the word age. The same is true in English, like the phrase 'day and age'.
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| January 7, 2010, 10:14 pm
Quoting Sergeant Pepper
The Hebrew word here can either be interpreted as literally day, or as the word age. The same is true in English, like the phrase 'day and age'.

what about the words morning and evening?
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| January 7, 2010, 10:15 pm
Quoting 2ndLT Brooks
what about the words morning and evening?

I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it was 7 days, myself. I'm just admitting that it IS a possibility. Evening could be the end of an age, and morning could be the beginning of one. People even say "the dawn of a new era".
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| January 7, 2010, 10:41 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
if god could do that why cant he use evolution?
Since we are created in His image, it seems that God would create us directly, since we are a reflection of himself. He COULD have used evolution, but it would seem to dilute God's power, if you know what I mean.
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| January 7, 2010, 10:46 pm
i do believe in evolution but i will lisiten to other ideas as long as they are presented intelligently <<<<<
Also, whenever it God says "Let there be _____", the next line is always, "And it was so." I interpret that to mean that it was instantaneous, that God spoke, and his will was accomplished immediately. Because otherwise, what would be happening in the meantime? God only rested on the seventh day, so is he just supposed to wait around for thousands of years while stuff evolves?
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| January 7, 2010, 10:48 pm
Quoting Sergeant Pepper
i do believe in evolution but i will lisiten to other ideas as long as they are presented intelligently <<<<<
Also, whenever it God says "Let there be _____", the next line is always, "And it was so." I interpret that to mean that it was instantaneous, that God spoke, and his will was accomplished immediately. Because otherwise, what would be happening in the meantime? God only rested on the seventh day, so is he just supposed to wait around for thousands of years while stuff evolves?

Huh. Weird font change...
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| January 7, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting Sergeant Pepper
I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it was 7 days, myself. I'm just admitting that it IS a possibility. Evening could be the end of an age, and morning could be the beginning of one. People even say "the dawn of a new era".

And that is exactly what I meant.

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| January 8, 2010, 6:34 pm
"Man was created in God's own image." Something tells me God didn't look like a monkey.

--Hunter
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| January 13, 2010, 1:43 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
yeah but just for the sake of argument what do you people have against evolution


If He used evolution, why is there no mention of it in the Bible? HUH?
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| January 20, 2010, 12:15 pm
Quoting Matt Kostamo
That isnt nececcarilly <- cant spell good :( just monkey to man. evolution can be the development of creatures over thousands of years to adapt to a different climate, like tadpoles growing legs and becoming a frog.


There is a difference between one animal evolving into a different one, and one animal maturing! Tadpoles growning legs & becoming frogs is just part of it becoming mature, not any different from a boy growing into a man, becoming taller, having his feet grow bigger, getting leg hair (XD), smelly armpits, etc!
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| January 20, 2010, 12:19 pm
Quoting Commander Flare .

If He used evolution, why is there no mention of it in the Bible? HUH?
A lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. It's never stated that life exists on other planets, and yet I believe it does. ;) Although I agree, I don't believe in the monkey part, however, it's likely we did get taller as the years went by.

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| January 20, 2010, 1:11 pm
Quoting Joshua T
Quoting Commander Flare .

If He used evolution, why is there no mention of it in the Bible? HUH?
A lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. It's never stated that life exists on other planets, and yet I believe it does. ;) Although I agree, I don't believe in the monkey part, however, it's likely we did get taller as the years went by.


In fact, before he died, Darwin was beginning to doubt his own theories!

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| January 20, 2010, 1:13 pm
Quoting Joshua T
Quoting Commander Flare .

If He used evolution, why is there no mention of it in the Bible? HUH?
A lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. It's never stated that life exists on other planets, and yet I believe it does. ;) Although I agree, I don't believe in the monkey part, however, it's likely we did get taller as the years went by.


There is nothing wrong with minor changes, but nothing as dramatic as monkey to human. Humankind has probably grown in height slightly since the beginning of the world, possibly a foot.
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| January 20, 2010, 1:38 pm
Quoting Joshua T
Quoting Commander Flare .

If He used evolution, why is there no mention of it in the Bible? HUH?
A lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. It's never stated that life exists on other planets, and yet I believe it does. ;) Although I agree, I don't believe in the monkey part, however, it's likely we did get taller as the years went by.

yeah, here's how I see it: some things are not mentioned in the Bible, but are still true. however, sometimes the Bible says something that is irreconcilable with another theory. like this: extra-terrestrial life is possible, but evolution is not. the Bible focuses only on Earth, because for the time being that's all we need to know. evolution is never mentioned, but it doesn't fit with what the Bible says.

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| January 20, 2010, 6:10 pm
Right. God gives us what we need to know when we need it. :) We didn't need an account of the life on another planet, so it's not in the Bible. Remember that, when debating something such as this, that if the Bible actually says something about it, then it's the only correct view of the matter. Aliens aren't mentioned in the Bible (as far as I know) so we don't know if they exist. If they do, we know that God made them. :D

Of course, we know that we couldn't have evolved from monkeys, but I think minor changes could've occurred, such as height differences.

When you meet someone who believes in evolution, don't look down on them. They are simply misinformed. Luke 6 :41 says "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Just try to lead others to the truth, and don't judge them! :)
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| January 20, 2010, 6:39 pm
Quoting Kir Kanos Kalinka
ND JESUS CHRIST)) IS A FIRM SUPPORTER OF EVOLUTION AND THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT ALL 100% TRUE. thats the flaw of a lot of you, the bible is not supposed to read exactly as it was. the creation stories are symbolism, and represent other things. they are not factual accounts of the world's creation, they are meant to convey God's being about forever. Basically you cannot argue that evolution is wrong when the Christian religion supports evolution being true. Also jehovah's witnesses are not christian they are their own sect.


While the Bible does contain symbolism, especially in Revelation, Adam and Eve were real people. The Bible is a perfect factual account of Creation, and many other points of history. ;) It's 100% true!
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| January 20, 2010, 6:51 pm
Quoting Commander Flare .

There is a difference between one animal evolving into a different one, and one animal maturing! Tadpoles growning legs & becoming frogs is just part of it becoming mature, not any different from a boy growing into a man, becoming taller, having his feet grow bigger, getting leg hair (XD), smelly armpits, etc!


I said kinda like, not the same. Its so fun debating with the age group we have here.

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| January 20, 2010, 8:19 pm
Quoting Joshua Taipale

While the Bible does contain symbolism, especially in Revelation, Adam and Eve were real people. The Bible is a perfect factual account of Creation, and many other points of history. ;) It's 100% true!

most of it. its probably true if you read the original hebrew or greek versions, untranslated, because translated things are never exact.
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| January 20, 2010, 8:22 pm
Quoting Matt Kostamo

I said kinda like, not the same. Its so fun debating with the age group we have here.


Why? Am I not in the same age group as you? Are you insulting me by saying that I'm a little kid or something?
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| January 20, 2010, 8:29 pm
dude take it easy! im not insulting, and were the same age group, i said it was fun literally, not as an insult.
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