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Yeah Umm I dont get this at all
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I'm kinda confused here, I mean ever since Brickdocter left, people have been breaking the rules. Athiest joining, arguments, and all this stuff about mormons. (Dont talk about it plz, it might offend people) I am also making this because I'm trying to help out Fero. He has started to notice this as well.Think about it, though, God all want us to be one Christan nation, but people like Athiest don't care if he died for them, Picture it this way, its like saying that you dont care if your father died. Also We should be one Christan nation. It was never his idea of, mormons, catholics, baptist, or methodist, they all just believen they're religion in a diffrent way. The song by U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday" Is about two Christan nations that believen diffrent things and ways of Christ.... and they are at war. I dont care if you ban me for this. I just want to tell you what HE wants us to be.

-Trek
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| August 27, 2009, 8:24 pm
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thankyou
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| August 27, 2009, 9:21 pm
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yeah thankyou someone finally understands
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| August 27, 2009, 9:25 pm
Thx guys glad you are with me on this

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| August 28, 2009, 9:10 pm
How many times to I have to tell you!!! Mormons are Christain!!!

Need proof? I've got tons of it.

Here,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christian
it says that the definition of a Christain is "1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, just look at our name, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Clearly, Mormons have to be somewhat Christian, only because they have the NAME in their TITLE!

Here
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/
At the end of this article it states "Finally, the charge that Latter-day Saints believe in salvation by works is simply not true. That human beings can save themselves by their own efforts is contrary to the teachings of the Book of Mormon, which eloquently states the doctrine of salvation by grace. On this issue LDS doctrines are well within the spectrum of views generally accepted as Christian."

There, OK. Just except us.
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| August 28, 2009, 9:28 pm
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
How many times to I have to tell you!!! Mormons are Christain!!!

Need proof? I've got tons of it.

Here,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christian
it says that the definition of a Christain is "1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, just look at our name, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Clearly, Mormons have to be somewhat Christian, only because they have the NAME in their TITLE!

Here
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/
At the end of this article it states "Finally, the charge that Latter-day Saints believe in salvation by works is simply not true. That human beings can save themselves by their own efforts is contrary to the teachings of the Book of Mormon, which eloquently states the doctrine of salvation by grace. On this issue LDS doctrines are well within the spectrum of views generally accepted as Christian."

There, OK. Just except us.

do you really have too make a big deal about this you are not convincing any one
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| August 28, 2009, 10:11 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
do you really have too make a big deal about this you are not convincing any one

Well, yes I do because you guys clearly don't think that LDS are Christains, which they are. Well, whats your proof that Mormons aren't Christain?
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| August 28, 2009, 10:13 pm
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
Well, yes I do because you guys clearly don't think that LDS are Christains, which they are. Well, whats your proof that Mormons aren't Christain?

you own holy text the peals of great wisdom
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| August 28, 2009, 10:16 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
you own holy text the peals of great wisdom

What?!
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| August 28, 2009, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
What?!

do i have to go into this with you? i almost got banned the first time ask Shane ? or John the Imaginative
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| August 28, 2009, 10:21 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
do i have to go into this with you? i almost got banned the first time ask Shane ? or John the Imaginative

I'm not the one that started it, I'm just defending the truth.
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| August 28, 2009, 10:22 pm
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
I'm not the one that started it, I'm just defending the truth.

i dont care if you started it do i have to go into this?
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| August 28, 2009, 10:24 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i dont care if you started it do i have to go into this?

No, you don't, but if you strongly believe against me, then you will.
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| August 28, 2009, 10:27 pm
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i started it the first time and nearly got banned ,yes i strongly disagree with you and i did with shane ?. and ill ask you again do i have to go into this with you?
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| August 28, 2009, 10:52 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
i started it the first time and nearly got banned ,yes i strongly disagree with you and i did with shane ?. and ill ask you again do i have to go into this with you?

I say again that you don't have to.
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| August 28, 2009, 10:54 pm
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
I say again that you don't have to.

great

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| August 28, 2009, 11:07 pm
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Athiest joining,


Hey, I've been here months before Brickdoctor left. Since April or May...
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| August 29, 2009, 12:04 am
Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
How many times to I have to tell you!!! Mormons are Christain!!!

Need proof? I've got tons of it.

Here,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christian
it says that the definition of a Christain is "1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, just look at our name, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Clearly, Mormons have to be somewhat Christian, only because they have the NAME in their TITLE!

Here
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/
At the end of this article it states "Finally, the charge that Latter-day Saints believe in salvation by works is simply not true. That human beings can save themselves by their own efforts is contrary to the teachings of the Book of Mormon, which eloquently states the doctrine of salvation by grace. On this issue LDS doctrines are well within the spectrum of views generally accepted as Christian."

There, OK. Just except us.

Wow Dude Take it easy Mormons have NOTHING to do with this
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| August 29, 2009, 7:34 am
What do you have against mormons and atheists!
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| August 29, 2009, 8:22 am
Quoting Cole Fynn
What do you have against mormons and atheists!
I have nothing aginst mormons

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| August 29, 2009, 9:46 am
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Quoting Cole Fynn
What do you have against mormons and atheists!
I have nothing aginst mormons

Ok. I am glad to here that.
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| August 29, 2009, 9:51 am
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
God all want us to be one Christan nation, but people like Athiest don't care if he died for them, Picture it this way, its like saying that you dont care if your father died.

No. It's like saying you don't care Darth Vader died.

Before you say things about people, see the situation from their point of view.
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| August 29, 2009, 9:52 am
Quoting Anders Hognerud
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
God all want us to be one Christan nation, but people like Athiest don't care if he died for them, Picture it this way, its like saying that you dont care if your father died.

No. It's like saying you don't care Darth Vader died.

Before you say things about people, see the situation from their point of view.

Darth Vader????? Is that the best example youve got, we are not hooking this in with star wars
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| August 29, 2009, 10:13 am
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Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
Well, yes I do because you guys clearly don't think that LDS are Christains, which they are. Well, whats your proof that Mormons aren't Christain?

they have an extra testament(the testament of jesus christ) that was "found" by this guy in new york when jesus nor one of his followers ever set foot in america and hid their testaments in israel and palestine
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| August 29, 2009, 10:20 am
Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
How many times to I have to tell you!!! Mormons are Christain!!!

Need proof? I've got tons of it.

Here,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christian
it says that the definition of a Christain is "1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, just look at our name, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Clearly, Mormons have to be somewhat Christian, only because they have the NAME in their TITLE!

Here
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/
At the end of this article it states "Finally, the charge that Latter-day Saints believe in salvation by works is simply not true. That human beings can save themselves by their own efforts is contrary to the teachings of the Book of Mormon, which eloquently states the doctrine of salvation by grace. On this issue LDS doctrines are well within the spectrum of views generally accepted as Christian."

There, OK. Just except us.

mORMON'S AREN'T CHRISTIANS!! AHHH! GIVE IT UP ALREADY! The Book of Mormon completely contradicts the verse that says don't add to the Bible, and mormons have. You aren't even worth capatalizing.
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| August 29, 2009, 12:20 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
they have an extra testament(the testament of jesus christ) that was "found" by this guy in new york when jesus nor one of his followers ever set foot in america and hid their testaments in israel and palestine
joseph smith who by the way had no archeological experience found them on gold tablets and translated them by looking into his hat or something and then disposed of them for some reason

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| August 29, 2009, 1:13 pm
Quoting Anders Hognerud
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
God all want us to be one Christan nation, but people like Athiest don't care if he died for them, Picture it this way, its like saying that you dont care if your father died.

No. It's like saying you don't care Darth Vader died.

Before you say things about people, see the situation from their point of view.


Actually, no, it's saying we don't care that someone died 2000 years ago. It's great he did all those good things, but there aren't that many who follow his example any more, so... Yea.
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| August 29, 2009, 1:38 pm
Alright, this debate about whether mormons are christians are not can be explained because of one thing. Yah they believe Christ. But they don't believe him as the son of God. That is what he preached, that is what it means to be Christian to accept that he was the one who died on the cross in place of us.

This is when another mormon doctrine contradicts Christian doctrine. It is a works based religion. It was founded on the principals that you work your way into heaven. That is false, as we are saved only by God's grace and mercy for us. Those two points differentiate mormons from Christians.

On top of this, the mormon religion was founded by Joseph Smith, long after Jesus. (1830) That is so far away from the original apostles that it can't be a credible form of christianity. I understand that lutheran and Babtist and other denominations we know today where created differently, but no one in those denominations says that they invented it, their beliefs still revolve around Christ as lord, not Joseph Smith as secondary prophet.

Anyway, thanks for starting this thread, although it seems that the reactions as always are getting out of hand.
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| August 29, 2009, 2:57 pm
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Darth Vader????? Is that the best example youve got, we are not hooking this in with star wars

/Extreme facepalm

My point is that most atheists view Jesus, Muhammed, Vader, etc. as a fictional character.

Therefore, saying that we don't care Jay-C died isn't similar to not caring about that a close relative died, 'cause most of us don't care so much about Jesus dying more than any movie character.
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| August 29, 2009, 3:10 pm
Quoting Anders Hognerud
/Extreme facepalm

My point is that atheists view Jesus, Muhammed, Vader, etc. as a fictional character.

Therefore, saying that we don't care Jay-C died isn't similar to not caring about that a close relative died, 'cause we don't care so much about Jesus dying more than any movie character.


Actually, I'm pretty sure Jesus and Muhammed were real, just none of the religious stuff surrounding them. I gotta admit, Jesus sets a good example on how to live. Too bad very few follow it.
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| August 29, 2009, 3:17 pm
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Quoting Elite Commander Marks Abraham
the schyco has returned lol

do i know you?
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| August 29, 2009, 3:35 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Actually, I'm pretty sure Jesus and Muhammed were real, just none of the religious stuff surrounding them. I gotta admit, Jesus sets a good example on how to live. Too bad very few follow it.

Sorry. Comment edited.
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| August 29, 2009, 3:37 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
do i know you?

Ya you know him as "Commander Marks"
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| August 29, 2009, 3:41 pm
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Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Ya you know him as "Commander Marks"
he is not marks i saw his page he is new

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| August 29, 2009, 3:44 pm
Quoting Lt. John Harland
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Ya you know him as "Commander Marks"
he is not marks i saw his page he is new

oh
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| August 29, 2009, 3:48 pm
Quoting Daa Bob
Alright, this debate about whether mormons are christians are not can be explained because of one thing. Yah they believe Christ. But they don't believe him as the son of God. That is what he preached, that is what it means to be Christian to accept that he was the one who died on the cross in place of us.

This is when another mormon doctrine contradicts Christian doctrine. It is a works based religion. It was founded on the principals that you work your way into heaven. That is false, as we are saved only by God's grace and mercy for us. Those two points differentiate mormons from Christians.

On top of this, the mormon religion was founded by Joseph Smith, long after Jesus. (1830) That is so far away from the original apostles that it can't be a credible form of christianity. I understand that lutheran and Babtist and other denominations we know today where created differently, but no one in those denominations says that they invented it, their beliefs still revolve around Christ as lord, not Joseph Smith as secondary prophet.

Anyway, thanks for starting this thread, although it seems that the reactions as always are getting out of hand.

What do you mean by "But they don't believe him as the son of God." We do!

It even states it in the first Article of Faith.

"We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in his son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost."

So we do believe the Jesus is God's son.
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| August 29, 2009, 10:07 pm
I was thinking something...How about we say that mormons are christans, because well, don't they believe in christ? Yes, they do. Mormons are pretty much a branch of christianity (I think...There were many arguements of this, I lost track on all of this stuff...).
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| August 29, 2009, 10:55 pm
oh I am sorry. My mind was still on the Islam subject. I apologize. LOL my mistake.

Read the others, and respond I really do want to hear what you think. I am open to hearing your reasoning.
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| August 30, 2009, 12:07 am
Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
What do you mean by "But they don't believe him as the son of God." We do!

It even states it in the first Article of Faith.

"We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in his son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost."

So we do believe the Jesus is God's son.


As far as I know, some groups of Mormons believe Jesus is God's son, and some don't. That's true with Lutherans, too. Some ELCA don't believe he's God's son.

Quick question. In saying Jesus is God's son, would you also say that he is fully God in his own right?
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| August 30, 2009, 12:32 am
Quoting Lord Star-Blazer
How many times to I have to tell you!!! Mormons are Christain!!!

Need proof? I've got tons of it.

Here,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christian
it says that the definition of a Christain is "1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, just look at our name, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Clearly, Mormons have to be somewhat Christian, only because they have the NAME in their TITLE!

Here
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/christians/
At the end of this article it states "Finally, the charge that Latter-day Saints believe in salvation by works is simply not true. That human beings can save themselves by their own efforts is contrary to the teachings of the Book of Mormon, which eloquently states the doctrine of salvation by grace. On this issue LDS doctrines are well within the spectrum of views generally accepted as Christian."

There, OK. Just except us.

Mormons think that Christ is from another planet! Us CHRISTIANS believe that God sent his son from HEAVEN,not Jupiter or Mars or wherever! Oh and by the way God doesn't want us to wear special underw3ar
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| August 30, 2009, 8:04 pm
Quoting Aaron C.
Mormons think that Christ is from another planet! Us CHRISTIANS believe that God sent his son from HEAVEN,not Jupiter or Mars or wherever! Oh and by the way God doesn't want us to wear special underw3ar

From another planet? What are you, nuts?! Of coarse we believe he is from heaven!

Mormons all believe in Christ, we don't have different branches of Morminism.

Oh, and we DO believe in the Bible!
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| August 30, 2009, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Aaron C.
Mormons think that Christ is from another planet! Us CHRISTIANS believe that God sent his son from HEAVEN,not Jupiter or Mars or wherever! Oh and by the way God doesn't want us to wear special underw3ar


Us "Christians?" See people like you Aaron give Christianity a bad name, strike one.
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| August 30, 2009, 8:22 pm
Quoting Thomas Lockwood

Us "Christians?" See people like you Aaron give Christianity a bad name, strike one.

What?!? What did I say wrong?
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| August 30, 2009, 10:04 pm
Quoting Aaron C.
What?!? What did I say wrong?

everything...
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| August 30, 2009, 10:05 pm
Quoting Aaron C.
Mormons think that Christ is from another planet! Us CHRISTIANS believe that God sent his son from HEAVEN,not Jupiter or Mars or wherever! Oh and by the way God doesn't want us to wear special underw3ar


I would disagree with definition number 2. In order to be a Christian, I personally would say (KINDLY say so if you think I'm wrong) that you must believe in Jesus as God, and that he sacrificed himself to save us from our own sin. The Nicene Creed is a good rule of thumb; if you don't believe it, you're not Christian (this creed was written by the early Christians).
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| August 31, 2009, 12:53 am
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I have come to realize this is going to continue until I end this, so I am going to because I'm tired of seeing these discussions. This group can't keep trying to please everyone when everyone is set on displeasing everyone else. Thus I am making an executive decision. That will very likely give me a lot of flak.

CFOL doesn't mean MFOL. So no I don't think mormons are Christians, doesn't mean I don't like you, but I'm tired of seeing these discussions here.
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| August 31, 2009, 8:57 am
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Look at this thread, what has been accomplished? Only that you probably greatly dislike the other person. Nothing is being accomplished by this, and only bad things are coming from it.
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| August 31, 2009, 8:59 am
See, this is what I'm talking about Thomas. Piontless rambling and arguing. Even the not So Great, has no idea what he's talking about. Christianity is the largest religion in the world, so take that info. it is accurate via any history textbook you read. Now stop aguing about mormons and blah blah blah. OK?
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| August 31, 2009, 10:39 am
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
Even the not So Great, has no idea what he's talking about.


I know what I speak of. But my last comment in this thread was like two days ago, I don't think I'm in this anymore.
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| August 31, 2009, 1:43 pm
I just want an answer to my question.
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| September 1, 2009, 1:28 am
Quoting Sergeant Pepper

As far as I know, some groups of Mormons believe Jesus is God's son, and some don't. That's true with Lutherans, too. Some ELCA don't believe he's God's son.

Quick question. In saying Jesus is God's son, would you also say that he is fully God in his own right?


It is a trinity, 3 in one. Like a tricycle. Each of the three wheels are are used in the one bike.

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| September 1, 2009, 10:19 am
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma

It is a trinity, 3 in one. Like a tricycle. Each of the three wheels are are used in the one bike.


I was asking the Mormons. Are you Mormon?
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| September 1, 2009, 11:52 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Actually, I'm pretty sure Jesus and Muhammed were real, just none of the religious stuff surrounding them. I gotta admit, Jesus sets a good example on how to live. Too bad very few follow it.

even my religious education teacher thinks jesus was a medicine man that people were afraid of so they betrayed him

it seems all organizations/religions get powerful cause someone died
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| September 1, 2009, 12:00 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I know what I speak of. But my last comment in this thread was like two days ago, I don't think I'm in this anymore.

to quote rusty...we can always leave it to you to baffle the mind of the average MOCer!...which somehow reminds me of yoghi bear...
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| September 1, 2009, 12:04 pm
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Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
See, this is what I'm talking about Thomas. Piontless rambling and arguing. Even the not So Great, has no idea what he's talking about. Christianity is the largest religion in the world, so take that info. it is accurate via any history textbook you read. Now stop aguing about mormons and blah blah blah. OK?

yes most powerful RELIGION. doesnt account for atheism, selfism(i think thats wat they call it) and to an extent satanic cultures(ok maybe...let call it legal religion)
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| September 1, 2009, 12:07 pm
Quoting Sergeant Pepper

I was asking the Mormons. Are you Mormon?


Heck no. As to father kals comment, I don't know who you have as a teacher who taught you than but I assure you, his mind is full of jello.
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| September 1, 2009, 7:22 pm
Quoting Father Khal
yes most powerful RELIGION. doesnt account for atheism, selfism(i think thats wat they call it) and to an extent satanic cultures(ok maybe...let call it legal religion)


Atheisim is not a religion, you have to believe in something for it to be called as such.
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| September 1, 2009, 7:23 pm
Quoting Father Khal
even my religious education teacher thinks jesus was a medicine man that people were afraid of so they betrayed him

it seems all organizations/religions get powerful cause someone died


That's ridiculous. Why would the disciples die for someone they feared? 11 of the disciples died proclaiming Christ's resurrection, and John was exiled for it. The only explanation for their martyrdom is that they loved Jesus and actually believed he rose, because they wouldn't sacrifice themselves for something they knew to be a lie either.
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| September 2, 2009, 11:10 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Atheisim can still be seen in most senses as a religion. By your definition, they believe in Evolution. So therefore they can be seen as a religion of sorts.

Athiest have no religion and evolution is crazy and dumb. I mean men to monkeys?!? There is a rumor i heard that the person who said that exepted christ right before he died
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| September 4, 2009, 1:29 pm
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Quoting Michael Qoyawayma

Atheisim is not a religion, you have to believe in something for it to be called as such.

i was referring to the numbers of atheists...and btw i think my teacher is more qualified than you mikey to say wat jesus is...anyway i mistaked him

he suggested he couldve been a medicine man, a very skilled and political one at that
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| September 4, 2009, 1:59 pm
Quoting Commander Trek of the 501st Legion
Athiest have no religion and evolution is crazy and dumb. I mean men to monkeys?!?

Y'know, I can reformulate that into pointing at religion, while it still makes the same amount of sense.

EDIT: You also don't seem to know what you speak of. You said "Men to monkeys", while evolution states the -opposite-.
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| September 4, 2009, 2:03 pm
Quoting The Moose You said "Men to monkeys", while evolution states the -opposite-.

oops my bad i meant it the other way around
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| September 4, 2009, 2:30 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Atheisim can still be seen in most senses as a religion. By your definition, they believe in Evolution. So therefore they can be seen as a religion of sorts.


That is called scientology, not atheism, they are different.
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| September 4, 2009, 6:48 pm
Quoting Commander Inferno
Ugh, why can't we get along and stop insulting what we believe in? If you don't believe in God and Jesus, then get out.

They're welcome to debate if they want. The more they ask about Christianity, the more they will recognize it as the truth.
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| September 9, 2009, 12:25 am
In regards to the Atheist debate, I agree that it is impossible to be truly atheist, because Man kind was wired to worship something. A wise man once said to me, "If you dropped a man on a desserted island, and he survived, he would worship palm trees, or rocks, or whatever they had on the island." The same goes for an Atheist's life. Whether he knows it or not, he worships something. It could be money, TV, girls, what have you. That's proof right there that God exists.
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| September 9, 2009, 6:39 pm
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Quoting Jake Smithton
In regards to the Atheist debate, I agree that it is impossible to be truly atheist, because Man kind was wired to worship something. A wise man once said to me, "If you dropped a man on a desserted island, and he survived, he would worship palm trees, or rocks, or whatever they had on the island." The same goes for an Atheist's life. Whether he knows it or not, he worships something. It could be money, TV, girls, what have you. That's proof right there that God exists.
no its not proof(i am christian but your argument makes no sense)

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| September 9, 2009, 7:04 pm
What I mean to say is that real athesim doesn't exist because we all have to worship something. I think this is because we were made to worship God, but non-Christians won't worsh God, so they have to worship something else to fill the hole.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:23 pm
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Quoting Lt. John Harland
Quoting Jake Smithton
In regards to the Atheist debate, I agree that it is impossible to be truly atheist, because Man kind was wired to worship something. A wise man once said to me, "If you dropped a man on a desserted island, and he survived, he would worship palm trees, or rocks, or whatever they had on the island." The same goes for an Atheist's life. Whether he knows it or not, he worships something. It could be money, TV, girls, what have you. That's proof right there that God exists.
no its not proof(i am christian but your argument makes no sense)

I think of it as worshiping self, but I get what your saying Jake.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:31 pm
Quoting Commander Inferno
That's why this conversation isn't closed! Ok.... I guess when you put it that way they can.

I agree it should be closed, sorry for bringing it up in the first place
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| September 10, 2009, 5:49 pm
Quoting Jake Smithton
What I mean to say is that real athesim doesn't exist because we all have to worship something. I think this is because we were made to worship God, but non-Christians won't worsh God, so they have to worship something else to fill the hole.

I don't think they would call it worshiping, per se. But everyone has something they put their trust in, be it money or fame or friends or a "significant other"...
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