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Welcome all. We are planning a month of classic space mini set building. Postings can begin on Monday 10 Dec, with final entries posted no later than 12.00pm (MOCpages time) 10 Jan. All are welcome. We are also hoping to have some classic space pocket money sets as prizes for the top scoring entries; details to follow. If you don't know what a classic space pocket money set is, we'll be posting links to some of our favourites in the thread here.
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| December 8, 2012, 8:34 am
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Alright this seems interesting!Finally I can get around to designing space vehicles of a different category!!! Great idea for creating this group and thank you for your invitation. If I may be of help with anything let me know.
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| December 8, 2012, 8:58 am
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There's one little problem I'm going through, I have never owned a classic space set, so sadly I don't know how good I am at build at a simpler scale. Do the entries have to feature one of those astronaut figs? because unfortunately I don't have one.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:21 am
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Quoting Gerald F.
There's one little problem I'm going through, I have never owned a classic space set, so sadly I don't know how good I am at build at a simpler scale. Do the entries have to feature one of those astronaut figs? because unfortunately I don't have one.

Hi Gerald. We thought this might be the case for some of the builders on here. Feel free to make a min-fig as close in spirit to one of the CS or CS related themes. So in answer to your question: no you don't have to own a CS spaceman, but please take care to make whichever fig you do use fit the part.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:25 am
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Quoting Gerald F.
Alright this seems interesting!Finally I can get around to designing space vehicles of a different category!!! Great idea for creating this group and thank you for your invitation. If I may be of help with anything let me know.

Thanks Gerald, if you want to invite people, let me know and I can make you a moderator.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:26 am
This sounds ace! I might have to go on a bit of a CS kick here. =)
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| December 8, 2012, 9:32 am
How mane entries can we make?
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| December 8, 2012, 9:34 am
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Quoting Senator Chinchilla .
This sounds ace! I might have to go on a bit of a CS kick here. =)

Jump on board Senator, you were one of the first people I thought of when I set this project in motion.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:34 am
Well, I must say I am both flattered and surprised that you sent me an invitation to join this. Being a bio-builder I did not really expect to get any such invitations. That being said, I am indeed a bio-builder, so because of my questionable building skills with actual bricks, and my lack of classic space bricks now that I think about it, I feel that I need to decline your request. I am simply no good with system pieces, (imagine Chris Phipson's halo page only about ten times worse) so while I great appreciate the thought, I will take my bow here.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:36 am
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Quoting David Alexander Smith
Hi Gerald. We thought this might be the case for some of the builders on here. Feel free to make a min-fig as close in spirit to one of the CS or CS related themes. So in answer to your question: no you don't have to own a CS spaceman, but please take care to make whichever fig you do use fit the part.

Alright then. Thank you for your answer, I'll see if I may find something that'll relate to the entry. And yes, I would like to be a moderator to invite people. I appreciate the offer.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:37 am
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Quoting BobaFett 2
How mane entries can we make?

One entry per person. Although as it states in the rules, you need to show us two alternatives you might build from the same pieces, just as you would find on the back of a CS pack.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:38 am
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Quoting Gale Winthrope
Well, I must say I am both flattered and surprised that you sent me an invitation to join this. Being a bio-builder I did not really expect to get any such invitations. That being said, I am indeed a bio-builder, so because of my questionable building skills with actual bricks, and my lack of classic space bricks now that I think about it, I feel that I need to decline your request. I am simply no good with system pieces, (imagine Chris Phipson's halo page only about ten times worse) so while I great appreciate the thought, I will take my bow here.

I thought you might say this, but there is no reason why you can't push the CS theme further with bio pieces; all you need is some trans yellow, blue and grey bio pieces and somewhere for a spaceman to sit. You never know inspiration might strike. There were some cool pocket money CS robot sets just as a thought!

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| December 8, 2012, 9:42 am
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I'm going to start working on the design soon, if I get the time. Today I recieve my order of 500 LEGO bricks. Perhaps to my luck, the order might include one of those CS spaceman minifigures.

Ps. I researched some examples of pocket money CS sets, and I wondered how big they have to be. If I correctly understand the term of Pocket money, I'm guessing the entry has to be able to fit as a small set.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:44 am
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Quoting Gerald F.
I'm going to start working on the design soon, if I get the time. Today I recieve my order of 500 LEGO bricks. Perhaps to my luck, the order might include one of those CS spaceman minifigures.

And if you don't, maybe if your design is good enough you might win one.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:47 am
Interesting contest! Thanks for the invite! I am in other contests, but I might be able to squeeze something in. When does it start and end?
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| December 8, 2012, 9:48 am
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Quoting David Alexander Smith
And if you don't, maybe if your design is good enough you might win one.

Really??? So there's actual prizes to this? Wow that makes things double the exciting!!! I'll do my best. Oh, and thanks for the promotion!
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| December 8, 2012, 9:50 am
What a fantastic idea for a contest. Thanks for inviting me. May I use a variation of a model I've posted before ?
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| December 8, 2012, 9:53 am
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Quoting Nick Barrett
What a fantastic idea for a contest. Thanks for inviting me. May I use a variation of a model I've posted before ?

Yes go for it.
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| December 8, 2012, 9:59 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Yes go for it.

Thanks. Classic Space Punk away!
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| December 8, 2012, 10:01 am
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Quoting Nick Barrett
Thanks. Classic Space Punk away! >>
Can't wait to see it.
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| December 8, 2012, 10:03 am
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Quoting Matthew Oh
Interesting contest! Thanks for the invite! I am in other contests, but I might be able to squeeze something in. When does it start and end?

For one month, 10 Dec to 10 Jan.
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| December 8, 2012, 10:04 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
For one month, 10 Dec to 10 Jan.


Okay, thanks!
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| December 8, 2012, 10:09 am
well, this will be interesting. I've never built classic space before, I guess I'll give it a go...
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| December 8, 2012, 10:11 am
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Quoting LTE MOCer
well, this will be interesting. I've never built classic space before, I guess I'll give it a go...

It's a great theme, and I think you will be surprised how much you get out of only a tiny amount of pieces. Enjoy!
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| December 8, 2012, 10:14 am
Thanks David for the invite. I think I have a classic space dude around somewhere in my lego stash. Just to make this clear, do we have to come up with a new CS set within the piece limit or add on to an old one? Anyways this should be a fun contest I can't wait to get started.
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| December 8, 2012, 10:59 am
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Quoting Garett Smith
Thanks David for the invite. I think I have a classic space dude around somewhere in my lego stash. Just to make this clear, do we have to come up with a new CS set within the piece limit or add on to an old one? Anyways this should be a fun contest I can't wait to get started.

A new design please, although this could of course be a reinvention of an existing set. Glad you wanted join us.
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| December 8, 2012, 11:38 am
Thanks for the invite! I am typically a castle builder, but this will give me a good excuse to do something else for a change! Just a few clarification questions: Color Scheme-should it be all greys and blues, or can we incorporate some more? Piece Count-When we post the entry, do you want the piece count added in?(I have never counted pieces while building, but it seems like it will add to the challenge) Size-Is there a size limit other than the piece count?

Thanks!
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| December 8, 2012, 12:15 pm
Hey, thanks for the invite, Davids. No surprise that this contest is being run by the two guys that I know of that build so much in the CS theme. This is an odd time for me to join a contest being a retail man during the Christmas season. Time will be even more limited than usual. I also have the problem of owning very little classic space pieces, though I think I can make something work from my collection. That, and I live twenty minutes away from the store that Brickforge operates out of, and they sell secondhand sets, including CS. They may have me knocking on their door in the next couple weeks. Few questions: Does the fig count as a piece? And are there any given pieces? Meaning any pieces that won't count toward the limit? Any required pieces?
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| December 8, 2012, 12:32 pm
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Quoting Kayne _
Thanks for the invite! I am typically a castle builder, but this will give me a good excuse to do something else for a change! Just a few clarification questions: Color Scheme-should it be all greys and blues, or can we incorporate some more? Piece Count-When we post the entry, do you want the piece count added in?(I have never counted pieces while building, but it seems like it will add to the challenge) Size-Is there a size limit other than the piece count?

You are free to interpret CS colours as you see fit. In the original sets there many variations, the white-blue and grey-black-trans green come to mind. You can also look at Mtron, Futron and Blacktron as well. I'm also open to other fan invented CS themes like Suntron. My advice is to read the rules and build to the marking criteria and you should be fine. Piece count should be posted. With regard to size of pieces, there is no limits, however remember big specialist pieces don't always help you build the best alternative model. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.


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| December 8, 2012, 12:51 pm
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Quoting Tim C
Hey, thanks for the invite, Davids. No surprise that this contest is being run by the two guys that I know of that build so much in the CS theme. This is an odd time for me to join a contest being a retail man during the Christmas season. Time will be even more limited than usual. I also have the problem of owning very little classic space pieces, though I think I can make something work from my collection. That, and I live twenty minutes away from the store that Brickforge operates out of, and they sell secondhand sets, including CS. They may have me knocking on their door in the next couple weeks. Few questions: Does the fig count as a piece? And are there any given pieces? Meaning any pieces that won't count toward the limit? Any required pieces?

Hey Tim glad you are up for it. It should be a fairly easy contest in terms of time needed to complete a MOC. Good question on the fig, I'm going to call it counts in total as one piece. No other restrictions on pieces. The key thing is to build to the marking criteria. Think of it as a specialist take on the 50 piece contest. Looking forward to your build already.
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| December 8, 2012, 12:56 pm
Hello, David and David. I'm afraid I just don't have the time to compete as I'm caught up in the CCCX, MELO and a few other contests. Thanks for thinking of me and for the invite but I just don't have the time. Good luck with the contest!
-Justin

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| December 8, 2012, 3:06 pm
Firstly, can I say thank you for inviting me to join in this contest, most appreciative. Secondly, this has to be one of the most original ideas for a contest I have ever seen, bravo!

Look forward to my build :)
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| December 8, 2012, 3:08 pm
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Quoting Nicholas Catling
Firstly, can I say thank you for inviting me to join in this contest, most appreciative. Secondly, this has to be one of the most original ideas for a contest I have ever seen, bravo!

Look forward to my build :)

Thanks, I've been pondering it for a few weeks now. And yes can't wait to see what you pull out of the hat.
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| December 8, 2012, 5:02 pm
Thanks for the invite! A very interesting idea, though I doubt I'll be successful!
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| December 8, 2012, 5:07 pm
Thanks for the invite!I have to warn you though,I may not get the first round entry in on time seeing as it's already Saturday.
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| December 8, 2012, 5:24 pm
Brilliant contest guys :) I hope connection last long enough to post. Please try to invite Crimso Giger, he's rarely on Mpages these days, but he'd be into this ;)
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| December 8, 2012, 5:29 pm
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Quoting Wolf Divided
Thanks for the invite!I have to warn you though,I may not get the first round entry in on time seeing as it's already Saturday.

There is only one round, starting on Monday. You have a month from then to complete your build. Good luck and I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
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| December 8, 2012, 6:50 pm
Thanks for the invitation. I have a couple questions:
1. Am I limited to parts that were available during classic space times? Or can I use bricks regardless of release date?
2. For building style, am I limited to the styles and techniques that were used on classic space sets, or can I use the bricks any way I want?

I hope you guys like M-Tron.
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| December 8, 2012, 7:57 pm
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Quoting Starscream Soundwave
Thanks for the invite! A very interesting idea, though I doubt I'll be successful!

Who knows, we all build much better out of our comfort zone than we think.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:17 am
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Quoting Parrington Levens
Brilliant contest guys :) I hope connection last long enough to post. Please try to invite Crimso Giger, he's rarely on Mpages these days, but he'd be into this ;)

Good shout, I know Crimso from Flickr and you are so right he'd love this. I will drop him a message later.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:21 am
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Quoting JWG 258
Thanks for the invitation. I have a couple questions:
1. Am I limited to parts that were available during classic space times? Or can I use bricks regardless of release date?
2. For building style, am I limited to the styles and techniques that were used on classic space sets, or can I use the bricks any way I want?

I hope you guys like M-Tron.


No, no limits regarding pieces. The idea is to see how far we can push the original CS themes. I'm glad someone wants to call M-Tron. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

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| December 9, 2012, 3:24 am
wow! thanks for the invite! what a sweet group!! i havent built CS in probably over 15 years... um, i dont need any just plain grey pieces do i? i think i only have light and dk bley pieces these days.. my brain is already ticking over..... mMmmmmm... Classic.
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| December 9, 2012, 6:08 am
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Quoting Ben Andrews
wow! thanks for the invite! what a sweet group!! i havent built CS in probably over 15 years... um, i dont need any just plain grey pieces do i? i think i only have light and dk bley pieces these days.. my brain is already ticking over..... mMmmmmm... Classic.

Feel free to adapt the CS themes to fit your bricks if need be. The aim is to work to the spirit of CS design. Check the rules page, work to those and you can't go wrong. Let the nostalgia run!
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| December 9, 2012, 6:18 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
There is only one round, starting on Monday. You have a month from then to complete your build. Good luck and I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Ohhhhh.I thought the entries had to be in by Monday. *phew*
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| December 9, 2012, 7:46 am
Had another thought, David. Do the alternative builds have to use all the pieces of the primary build? So if I build a MOC with wheels, the other two must also have wheels?
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| December 9, 2012, 11:07 am
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Quoting Tim C
Had another thought, David. Do the alternative builds have to use all the pieces of the primary build? So if I build a MOC with wheels, the other two must also have wheels?

No you don't have to use all the pieces. The aim is show creative alternatives just as the original sets did. Finding other uses for wheels, such as thrusters will of course help with the scoring.
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| December 9, 2012, 11:23 am
Many thanks for the invite. Don't know if I can contribute something, but I'll try my best.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:00 pm
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Quoting Marcus Paul
Many thanks for the invite. Don't know if I can contribute something, but I'll try my best.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that inspiration strikes.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:05 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Welcome all. We are planning a month of classic space mini set building. Postings can begin on Monday 10 Dec, with final entries posted no later than 12.00pm (MOCpages time) 10 Jan. All are welcome. We are also hoping to have some classic space pocket money sets as prizes for the top scoring entries; details to follow. If you don't know what a classic space pocket money set is, we'll be posting links to some of our favourites in the thread here.

Can I do Ice Planet 2002?

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| December 9, 2012, 3:06 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Welcome all. We are planning a month of classic space mini set building. Postings can begin on Monday 10 Dec, with final entries posted no later than 12.00pm (MOCpages time) 10 Jan. All are welcome. We are also hoping to have some classic space pocket money sets as prizes for the top scoring entries; details to follow. If you don't know what a classic space pocket money set is, we'll be posting links to some of our favourites in the thread here.

Can I do Ice Planet 2002?

Yes of course, that's why I invited you:)
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| December 9, 2012, 3:08 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Yes of course, that's why I invited you:)

I'm posting my favorite creation of mine!
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| December 9, 2012, 3:11 pm
Quoting Commander Cold
I'm posting my favorite creation of mine!

Can I post today?
I'm so excited!
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| December 9, 2012, 3:11 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
I'm posting my favorite creation of mine!

Does it have two alternative models? Check the rules before you go ahead.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:11 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Does it have two alternative models? Check the rules before you go ahead.

No, but it has a great background!
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| December 9, 2012, 3:13 pm
Quoting Commander Cold
No, but it has a great background!

Check it out here and make up your mind!


http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348448
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| December 9, 2012, 3:15 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
Check it out here and make up your mind!


http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348448

It is a neat little ship, but without the alternative builds it wouldn't qualify. Why not try a new build with the concept of alternatives in mind. It's a great building challenge and gets you to think a little bit like a Lego designer.
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| December 9, 2012, 3:22 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
It is a neat little ship, but without the alternative builds it wouldn't qualify. Why not try a new build with the concept of alternatives in mind. It's a great building challenge and gets you to think a little bit like a Lego designer.

I have one with alternate models: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348459
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| December 9, 2012, 4:03 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
I have one with alternate models: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348459

Well that technically fits the brief. Feel free to add it to the group tomorrow if you want. Do remember you have a whole month to pull your best build out of the hat, so there is no rush.
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| December 9, 2012, 4:12 pm
I like it that i got an invitation for this contest!! I am busy now whit the classic castle contest but this is a nice contest and i think i make time for this contest !!!
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| December 9, 2012, 6:31 pm
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Quoting kees wesseling
I like it that i got an invitation for this contest!! I am busy now whit the classic castle contest but this is a nice contest and i think i make time for this contest !!!

Fantastic. It should be fun.
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| December 9, 2012, 6:51 pm
Do we have to use pieces that come from the classic Space era? Or can we use some more modern pieces but still keep the focus on CS.
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| December 9, 2012, 8:00 pm
Well this should be interesting. I think the biggest challenges are going to be staying under 100 pieces and maintaining the CS look. I'm in and thanks for the invite gentlemen!
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| December 9, 2012, 8:01 pm
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Quoting Mike Johnson
Well this should be interesting. I think the biggest challenges are going to be staying under 100 pieces and maintaining the CS look. I'm in and thanks for the invite gentlemen!

Have a look at this strand in the group for some ideas fo models that are within the size limit:

http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=21998&topicid=86487

Even the quite big LL918 had less than 100 parts:

http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=918-1
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| December 9, 2012, 8:18 pm
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Quoting Garett Smith
Do we have to use pieces that come from the classic Space era? Or can we use some more modern pieces but still keep the focus on CS.

You can use any Lego parts that you want to, from any era, so long as there are more than 30 and less than 100 in your build. A mini-fig counts a 1 part.
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| December 9, 2012, 8:21 pm
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Quoting Gerald F.
Alright then. Thank you for your answer, I'll see if I may find something that'll relate to the entry. And yes, I would like to be a moderator to invite people. I appreciate the offer.

Many thanks for being a Moderator and finding more people to join in with the fun!
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| December 9, 2012, 8:23 pm
Should this be Classic Space as in "David Roberts Classic Space" or Neo-Classic Space?
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| December 9, 2012, 8:28 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
Should this be Classic Space as in "David Roberts Classic Space" or Neo-Classic Space?

Good question! David and I chatted about this on e-mail and decided that we'd prefer people to use one of the "official" Lego colour schemes. "In terms of style please draw your inspiration from CS, although Futron, Blacktron, Mtron and Space Police themes are
acceptable."
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| December 9, 2012, 8:41 pm
Quoting David Roberts
Good question! David and I chatted about this on e-mail and decided that we'd prefer people to use one of the "official" Lego colour schemes. "In terms of style please draw your inspiration from CS, although Futron, Blacktron, Mtron and Space Police themes are
acceptable."

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant more the style of build - angular, non-tiled, etc...like Classic Space themes, or smooth and rounded like more modern Space themes.
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| December 9, 2012, 8:43 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant more the style of build - angular, non-tiled, etc...like Classic Space themes, or smooth and rounded like more modern Space themes.

Sorry I misunderstood your question, I thought you meant the colours. I think that in terms of shapes anything goes! That said, remember the bit about "Design" in the rules and how the build should look functional rather than pretty. I hope this is helpful.

Your question has also made me think about how other people see what I build, as for me it's as much about the colours than the shapes or building techniques. Thank you!
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| December 9, 2012, 8:57 pm
I forgot to thank you for inviting me!
Also, I love the idea of this contest - so rarely do I have a motive to build like this.
It really inspires creativity!
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| December 9, 2012, 9:06 pm
Thanks for the invite. Hope I can come up with something worthy to post. If not, it will be fun following everyone else's entries! :)
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| December 10, 2012, 12:17 am
I haven't read through every comment, so this might have already been covered, but do the alternate models have to use ALL of the pieces found in the main model, or just some? Anyway, I'm pretty busy these days, but it sounds like a cool/not-too-time-consuming contest. Sooooo... ...I'm in! :)
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| December 10, 2012, 1:23 am
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Quoting Elliott Feldman
I haven't read through every comment, so this might have already been covered, but do the alternate models have to use ALL of the pieces found in the main model, or just some? Anyway, I'm pretty busy these days, but it sounds like a cool/not-too-time-consuming contest. Sooooo... ...I'm in! :)

No you don't have to use all the pieces. The aim is show creative alternatives just as the original sets did.
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| December 10, 2012, 1:48 am
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Quoting Topsy Creatori(StoveTop nomore!)
Thanks for the invite. Hope I can come up with something worthy to post. If not, it will be fun following everyone else's entries! :)

I'm sure you can come up with an original take. :)
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| December 10, 2012, 1:49 am
Thank you for the surprise invitation to what by all accounts looks a very intelligent and interesting contest. I'm in.
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| December 10, 2012, 1:49 am
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Quoting Tris B
Thank you for the surprise invitation to what by all accounts looks a very intelligent and interesting contest. I'm in.

Thank you, we thought the idea could be good fun.
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| December 10, 2012, 2:03 am
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Quoting Cath Bailey
I guess I'll be attempting this. unfortunately for ... all of us, I didn't grow up with classic space, or really any space related lego at all. so if I never enter anything, either A. I couldn't figure out what to make, or B. I hated what I made so much that I gave up.

I can imagine a pretty cool Cath Bailey flavoured Blacktron build. If anyone can push the CS envelope you can.
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| December 10, 2012, 5:42 am
Sounds fun - thanks for the invitation :) It will be an occasion to post something on MOCpage again ! (which is an excellent reason to do the contest)
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| December 10, 2012, 6:55 am
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Quoting Crimso Giger
Sounds fun - thanks for the invitation :) It will be an occasion to post something on MOCpage again ! (which is an excellent reason to do the contest)

I know you live over on Flickr mostly now, but you are a master of the CS art. It wouldn't have been a proper competition without you. Now how to persuade Shannon Ocean to join up.
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| December 10, 2012, 6:58 am
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Quoting Crimso Giger
Sounds fun - thanks for the invitation :) It will be an occasion to post something on MOCpage again ! (which is an excellent reason to do the contest)

Also if you haven't checked out my fellow judge's work, I'd recommend it. I think it would be your type of building: http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/90763
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| December 10, 2012, 7:00 am
Does the primary model have to use all the parts?
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| December 10, 2012, 11:02 am
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Quoting JWG 258
Does the primary model have to use all the parts?

Yes the primary model uses all the pieces and the secondary models are made from that pool of pieces.
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| December 10, 2012, 11:06 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Yes the primary model uses all the pieces and the secondary models are made from that pool of pieces.


So it starts today?
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| December 10, 2012, 11:12 am
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Quoting Matthew Oh

So it starts today?

Yes starts today for one month, so plenty of time to knock up a small moc over the Xmas break.
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| December 10, 2012, 11:24 am
So to be clear, only one entry per person, it MUST be between 30-100 pieces, have two distinct configurations, one using all the pieces. All configurations MUST be in the CS style (or similar) and mini figs count as one piece. Competition has started and deadline is 10th Jan 2013.

Did I miss anything?
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| December 10, 2012, 11:47 am
Quoting andros tempest
So to be clear, only one entry per person, it MUST be between 30-100 pieces, have two distinct configurations, one using all the pieces. All configurations MUST be in the CS style (or similar) and mini figs count as one piece. Competition has started and deadline is 10th Jan 2013.

Did I miss anything?
I'll probably think of a few more stupid questions to tax your patience between now and Jan 10. I have one now: Why does a fork lift hae to be so big if all it does is pick up forks?

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| December 10, 2012, 11:57 am
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Quoting andros tempest
So to be clear, only one entry per person, it MUST be between 30-100 pieces, have two distinct configurations, one using all the pieces. All configurations MUST be in the CS style (or similar) and mini figs count as one piece. Competition has started and deadline is 10th Jan 2013.

Did I miss anything?

No spot on the money.
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| December 10, 2012, 12:00 pm
Quoting Mike Johnson
Well this should be interesting. I think the biggest challenges are going to be staying under 100 pieces and maintaining the CS look. I'm in and thanks for the invite gentlemen!

I know that there is no chance I will win.....I mean look at yourselves.
You can do way better than this!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348459
Tell me what you think.
Am I right?
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| December 10, 2012, 4:06 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
Quoting Mike Johnson
Well this should be interesting. I think the biggest challenges are going to be staying under 100 pieces and maintaining the CS look. I'm in and thanks for the invite gentlemen!

I know that there is no chance I will win.....I mean look at yourselves.
You can do way better than this!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348459
Tell me what you think.
Am I right?

Hey commander, don't put yourself down. Participation is 99.9% of the fun in these contests. The prizes were thrown in as a bit of festive cheer. I deliberately didn't comment on this as I thought you might be entering it into the contest, and my judging status would then be compromised.

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| December 10, 2012, 4:10 pm
What a great idea and thanks for the invite David. I would love to build something for this group. It sounds like Mr Barrett and I have a similar idea so this might get interesting. Space Punks Rule!
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| December 10, 2012, 4:16 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Hey commander, don't put yourself down. Participation is 99.9% of the fun in these contests. The prizes were thrown in as a bit of festive cheer. I deliberately didn't comment on this as I thought you might be entering it into the contest, and my judging status would then be compromised.

You're saying that You didn't want to put me down for my lack of creativity?
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| December 10, 2012, 4:17 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
You're saying that You didn't want to put me down for my lack of creativity?

What I'm saying is that I will judge all entries at the end of the contest not before. As you indicated you might enter the MOC in question, I naturally held off commenting. Nothing more than that.
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| December 10, 2012, 5:19 pm
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Quoting MortalSwordsman .
What a great idea and thanks for the invite David. I would love to build something for this group. It sounds like Mr Barrett and I have a similar idea so this might get interesting. Space Punks Rule!

Space punks rule indeed, bring them on.
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| December 10, 2012, 5:21 pm
I have a question:
Are so called "illegal" connections banned for the contest? Cause I love, I mean LOVE, "illegal" connection.
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| December 10, 2012, 6:01 pm
Quoting David Roberts
Good question! David and I chatted about this on e-mail and decided that we'd prefer people to use one of the "official" Lego colour schemes. "In terms of style please draw your inspiration from CS, although Futron, Blacktron, Mtron and Space Police themes are
acceptable."

What about Ice Planet 2002?
I have a new creation that is underway.
I am definetly more enthusiastic about this one.
It has a cockpit, but would it still qualify as a "Pocket Ship"?

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| December 10, 2012, 6:02 pm
Quoting Commander Cold
Quoting Mike Johnson
Well this should be interesting. I think the biggest challenges are going to be staying under 100 pieces and maintaining the CS look. I'm in and thanks for the invite gentlemen!

I know that there is no chance I will win.....I mean look at yourselves.
You can do way better than this!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348459
Tell me what you think.
Am I right?

Look at my other creations!
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/83718
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| December 10, 2012, 6:05 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
What about Ice Planet 2002?
I have a new creation that is underway.
I am definetly more enthusiastic about this one.
It has a cockpit, but would it still qualify as a "Pocket Ship"?

Yes to both questions.
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| December 10, 2012, 6:32 pm
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Quoting Commander Cold
Look at my other creations!
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/83718

Thanks I will take a look.
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| December 10, 2012, 6:33 pm
This is not to take anything away from Andros because his LDD is very good and I also admit I did not see anywhere the entry could not be in LDD but I thought it revolved around building an actual set. For those of us who don't have LDD, I question what effect this will have on the contest?
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| December 10, 2012, 10:42 pm
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Quoting Mike Johnson
This is not to take anything away from Andros because his LDD is very good and I also admit I did not see anywhere the entry could not be in LDD but I thought it revolved around building an actual set. For those of us who don't have LDD, I question what effect this will have on the contest?

Andros asked me if LDD was allowed, and I called yes as I wanted the competition to be inclusive. Also I reasoned that the main advantages of LDD are really felt on larger builds where repetitions of components and access to huge amounts of pieces pushes builds beyond what the average builder can do. In this case with 30-100 pieces there are no real advantages. Andros used fairly ordinary pieces in his creation, and I think is operating on a fairly level playing field. Finally we thought out the judging criteria very carefully to put design at the heart of the build. Whoever wins this contest will be someone who has read and understood those criteria fullly and not the person with the best selection of CS pieces.
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| December 11, 2012, 2:05 am
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Quoting Mike Johnson
This is not to take anything away from Andros because his LDD is very good and I also admit I did not see anywhere the entry could not be in LDD but I thought it revolved around building an actual set. For those of us who don't have LDD, I question what effect this will have on the contest?

I'm totaly with David on this issue. Especially as the competition is limited to 100 pieces, people won't be able to use LDD to produce amazing, gigantic creations using thousands of virtual Lego bricks. I also think that it's important that the competition is as inclusive and fun as possible!
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| December 11, 2012, 2:36 am
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Quoting LTE MOCer
I have a question:
Are so called "illegal" connections banned for the contest? Cause I love, I mean LOVE, "illegal" connection.

The answer has to be "Yes" as I'm definitely guilty of using illegal connections. The concept didn't exsist back in the 1970's, when CS started. I'm workig in LDD at the moment and it can be fustrating what it won't let you do, at times.
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| December 11, 2012, 2:39 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
I know you live over on Flickr mostly now, but you are a master of the CS art. It wouldn't have been a proper competition without you. Now how to persuade Shannon Ocean to join up.


Thanks ! But you're a master too ! (and with more original subjects even for CS).
I've told Shannon on Flickr, about the contest - so if he isn't too busy, there's good chances he'll join ;-)

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| December 11, 2012, 4:35 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Also if you haven't checked out my fellow judge's work, I'd recommend it. I think it would be your type of building: http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/90763


I've take a little tour on his page... marvellous indeed !!!

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| December 11, 2012, 4:55 am
Oh - and (even if I'm unsure he's still active)

This guy MUST be invited to the group :

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/1656

A true CS warrior/artist !

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| December 11, 2012, 5:02 am
Quoting Mike Johnson
This is not to take anything away from Andros because his LDD is very good and I also admit I did not see anywhere the entry could not be in LDD but I thought it revolved around building an actual set. For those of us who don't have LDD, I question what effect this will have on the contest?


You would be surprised just how hard it is to create something "small" in LDD. While you can have almost any brick in almost every colour, you can't always produce exactly the same building styles and techniques a real world build could. Plus, with no classic space stickers the results are always going to be missing some element actual bricks have.

I don't expect to win, as my style is more neo-classic than classic. I'm just pleased to be included and can't wait to see what everyone else comes up with.

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| December 11, 2012, 5:32 am
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Quoting Crimso Giger
Oh - and (even if I'm unsure he's still active)

This guy MUST be invited to the group :

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/1656

A true CS warrior/artist !

Oh yes he has already been invited.

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| December 11, 2012, 6:43 am
This contest is a good challenge. I'm having to think about multiple uses for each brick.
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| December 11, 2012, 9:27 am
My entry is more or less finished, I am just doing a lot of refining to make it as good as possible.
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| December 11, 2012, 11:37 am
Here's my entry, the Lunar Exploration Wagon:

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348579
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| December 11, 2012, 12:03 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
Here's my entry, the Lunar Exploration Wagon:

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348579

Hey Joseph, I don't see your alternative builds. You might want to check the rules.
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| December 11, 2012, 12:05 pm
Oops, I forgot to take photographs of the alternate models, they will be up by tomorrow.
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| December 11, 2012, 12:06 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
One question: do the entries have to rebuild into alternate models as well?

Yes it is a basic criteria. I suggest you read the rules page.
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| December 11, 2012, 12:47 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
Oops, I forgot to take photographs of the alternate models, they will be up by tomorrow.

That's ok, we'll give you a pass this time on an edit, but we are being kind. Next time check the rules first.
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| December 11, 2012, 1:00 pm
Here is the build with the alternate build.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348586
It only has one alternate build, is that OK? I couldn't think of ANY other thing I could make with the peices.
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| December 11, 2012, 1:50 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
Here is the build with the alternate build.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/348586
It only has one alternate build, is that OK? I couldn't think of ANY other thing I could make with the peices.

Yes that is ok, although I can't say it won't affect the marking. Thanks for joining in, and I hope you've found it fun building outside your comfort zone.
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| December 11, 2012, 2:16 pm
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Quoting LTE MOCer
I have a question:
Are so called "illegal" connections banned for the contest? Cause I love, I mean LOVE, "illegal" connection.

Many apologies for my previous answer to your question. I didn't read your question properly. Please DO use "illegal" connections: they weren't illegal in the 1970s & 80s of Classic Space! Apologies again!
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| December 11, 2012, 4:39 pm
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Quoting Cath Bailey
Quoting David Roberts
The answer has to be "Yes" as I'm definitely guilty of using illegal connections. The concept didn't exsist back in the 1970's, when CS started. I'm workig in LDD at the moment and it can be fustrating what it won't let you do, at times.
you might want to put that in the rules. I was under the notion that it didn't matter, this kind of foils most of my ideas. it also looks like one of the first entries uses 'illegal' connections as well. as clear as the rules are, I assumed illegal connections were aloud because there was nothing that stated they aren't.

Sorry, I misread the original question. please DO use "illegal" connections. As far as I'm aware, the concept didn't exsist during the Classic Space era. I definitely had sets in the 1970s that had connections which wouldn't be allowed nowadays. Apologies for my poor reading & spreading of confusion!
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| December 11, 2012, 4:42 pm
Quoting David Roberts
Many apologies for my previous answer to your question. I didn't read your question properly. Please DO use "illegal" connections: they weren't illegal in the 1970s & 80s of Classic Space! Apologies again!

Oh good! thank you for clearing that up!
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| December 11, 2012, 4:49 pm
Quoting David Roberts
The answer has to be "Yes" as I'm definitely guilty of using illegal connections. The concept didn't exsist back in the 1970's, when CS started. I'm workig in LDD at the moment and it can be fustrating what it won't let you do, at times.

What are illegal connections????
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| December 12, 2012, 4:11 am
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Quoting Locutus 666
What are illegal connections????

This is the definition from the Brothers Brick's helpful Glossary:
'Illegal
LEGO building techniques that break the “rules” for connections between LEGO elements used by official LEGO set designers — particularly connections that stress the LEGO elements. For example, inserting a plate between the studs on a brick.'
http://www.brothers-brick.com/lego-glossary/
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| December 12, 2012, 5:46 am
Ay, now I know. :) Thx.
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| December 12, 2012, 7:25 am
So there I was, minding my own business, about to crack on with a couple of larger builds I've had on hold... when along come 'The Davids' with this completely irresistible gem of a competition. Grrr. Great idea, count me in - I guess other things can wait :)
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| December 12, 2012, 8:24 am
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Quoting Locutus 666
What are illegal connections????

I see that David has given you the "proper" definition. In my imagination "illegal connections" always sound like something exciting that you would use to do a Mafia hit or major drugs deal!
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| December 12, 2012, 12:29 pm
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Quoting Locutus 666
What are illegal connections????

Oh and yes please do use "illegal connections" if you want to (the Lego ones that is!).

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| December 12, 2012, 12:38 pm
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Quoting Jon B
So there I was, minding my own business, about to crack on with a couple of larger builds I've had on hold... when along come 'The Davids' with this completely irresistible gem of a competition. Grrr. Great idea, count me in - I guess other things can wait :)

Jump on board Jon, already excited for your entry (no pressure at all).
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| December 12, 2012, 12:51 pm
For me my creation meets the requirements... two models ,i build 2 models in one ,did not say that you could not
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| December 12, 2012, 12:54 pm
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Quoting Devid VII
For me my creation meets the requirements... two models ,i build 2 models in one ,did not say that you could not

Hey Devid, it doesn't quite work like that. The old CS sets showed you how useful the small amount of bricks you had purchased were by way of other examples. Your transforming feature ticks the box for cool play feature, but doesn't show us how versatile the pieces would be in other builds. If you want to remove the build from the group temporarily while you devise alternatives, I'd be happy to give you a green card based on the fact I think you simply misinterpreted the rules.
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| December 12, 2012, 1:07 pm
No problem i delete my creation from the group
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| December 12, 2012, 1:26 pm
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Quoting Devid VII
No problem i delete my creation from the group

I really hope to see it back with alternatives very soon - and I mean that.
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| December 12, 2012, 1:32 pm
When are the entries going to be judged?
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| December 12, 2012, 1:39 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
When are the entries going to be judged?

We will judge everything together after the closing date of 10 Jan. Hold tight till then. Neither David R or myself will be making any comments on the MOCs till then.
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| December 12, 2012, 1:43 pm
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Quoting Joseph Shaw
When are the entries going to be judged?

You have no idea how frustrating the waiting is for the judges, as well as the competitors! It's so hard to hold back on the comments on all of the good things that people have already built!
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| December 12, 2012, 4:40 pm
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Quoting Devid VII
No problem i delete my creation from the group

Good luck with the alternative builds. I'm fascinated to see what you'll create. For me, this is one of the most interesting (and fun) aspects of this competition.
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| December 12, 2012, 4:42 pm
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Quoting David Roberts
You have no idea how frustrating the waiting is for the judges, as well as the competitors! It's so hard to hold back on the comments on all of the good things that people have already built!

I second that sentiment.
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| December 12, 2012, 4:56 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
I second that sentiment.

Thirded. =) It's fun to balance out the detail of the small pieces with the opportunity you get from some of the larger ones.
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| December 12, 2012, 5:08 pm
Oh, I've had such a cool idea...! The LDD model is almost finished, including 2 alternatives :-)) Maybe I'll think about a third alternative model... And it's soooo CS, I think I only used parts available in 1979...

Now I'll have to make a BOM and go down to the basement to get the good old light grey stuff with the cool logos and some spacemen with tools :-)) I only have the "bluish" stuff and newer minifigs in my boxes here in the flat.
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| December 12, 2012, 6:02 pm
One question about the parts count:

How many parts are counted for a classic pair of wheels (axle with red pins and two tires)? 1 part or 3 parts?
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| December 12, 2012, 6:35 pm
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Quoting Nils O.
One question about the parts count:

How many parts are counted for a classic pair of wheels (axle with red pins and two tires)? 1 part or 3 parts?

1 part, if they came as one piece in the box, then they are 1 piece.
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| December 12, 2012, 6:53 pm
Hello David & David!
Sorry to write here so late, for it's my very first contest, I have a few things to learn. Merci beaucoup for the "please, come on in the contest!". I do appreciate.
No questions. The rules were clear to me from the beginning.
@ David A.: As I told you, I got inspired by your technic: build simple.
I really took some pleasure going back in my youth.
Thank you both for this brilliant idea: that good old light gray has not lost yet.

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| December 12, 2012, 6:55 pm
Quoting Tris B
Thank you for the surprise invitation to what by all accounts looks a very intelligent and interesting contest. I'm in.

Yes, this is fun!
When will there be another contest, maybe for another theme?
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| December 12, 2012, 8:03 pm
Hey, Davids. Just thought of another question. Maybe someone already asked this, but I got so tired from reading all of these comments to find it that my head hit the desk and I took a nap, and to avoid that problem coming back, I'll cut off the research here and just ask. What freedoms do we have with photo editing?
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| December 12, 2012, 8:20 pm
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Quoting Tim C
Hey, Davids. Just thought of another question. Maybe someone already asked this, but I got so tired from reading all of these comments to find it that my head hit the desk and I took a nap, and to avoid that problem coming back, I'll cut off the research here and just ask. What freedoms do we have with photo editing?

Well I'd say an opening presentation using your skills is fine, as long as there are photos below that show the MOC on its own. Presentation isn't a judging criteria, just so people know.
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| December 13, 2012, 1:45 am
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Quoting Commander Cold
Yes, this is fun!
When will there be another contest, maybe for another theme?

Let's get this one finished first :)
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| December 13, 2012, 1:47 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Well I'd say an opening presentation using your skills is fine, as long as there are photos below that show the MOC on its own. Presentation isn't a judging criteria, just so people know.

Phew! I was just gonna do that, I didn't think about if it would be illegal. Thanks for allowing it!
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| December 13, 2012, 7:42 am
Just want to let the judges know I apologize for not building the alternate models. It was an honest mistake I missed it in the rules. Seein as im leaving early tommorow morning I dont know if it will be possible to make the models. I will try my best to do it but dont be suprised if I have to drop out. Sorry for any inconvience. --Justin
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| December 13, 2012, 7:24 pm
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Quoting Justin Knelsen
Just want to let the judges know I apologize for not building the alternate models. It was an honest mistake I missed it in the rules. Seein as im leaving early tommorow morning I dont know if it will be possible to make the models. I will try my best to do it but dont be suprised if I have to drop out. Sorry for any inconvience. --Justin

Hey Justin, it's no inconvenience. I'm really glad you wanted to join in. Remember you have till 10 Jan, near enough 4 weeks to build the alternatives. With the pieces I've seen you've used I reckon it shouldn't be that hard. Good luck!

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| December 13, 2012, 7:30 pm
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Quoting JWG 258
This contest is a good challenge. I'm having to think about multiple uses for each brick.

I agree, to me this is a new thing, so I'm not sure how I will give it the simple CS look to my creation. I'll think of something eventually.
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| December 13, 2012, 9:56 pm
It's a convoluted process to include what you need and exclude what you don't need.
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| December 14, 2012, 11:31 am
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Quoting Justin Knelsen
Just want to let the judges know I apologize for not building the alternate models. It was an honest mistake I missed it in the rules. Seein as im leaving early tommorow morning I dont know if it will be possible to make the models. I will try my best to do it but dont be suprised if I have to drop out. Sorry for any inconvience. --Justin

Glad to see those alternatives appear :)
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| December 14, 2012, 11:37 am
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Guys, you can't imagine how much willpower it is taking not to comment on all the great stuff that is getting posted.
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| December 16, 2012, 12:36 pm
I hope im able to put something together tomorrow. I have a lovely idea. But i agree - so many lovely Classic space MOCs in here. And by setting a limit of 100 LEGO bricks its kept classic-CLASSIC... Thats not a typo ... Glad to be able to join the group and hope that we once again will begin building as we did a year ago. :)
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| December 16, 2012, 3:20 pm
Thanks for the invite! I will definitely see what I can come up with.
Some great entries so far.
Glad I can try something different in building a smaller creation!
Good luck everyone!
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| December 16, 2012, 11:40 pm
Quoting Cath Bailey
I guess I'll be attempting this. unfortunately for ... all of us, I didn't grow up with classic space, or really any space related lego at all. so if I never enter anything, either A. I couldn't figure out what to make, or B. I hated what I made so much that I gave up.

Me too.....I'm only 12 years old.
I buy all of my sets from Ebay.
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| December 17, 2012, 6:44 pm
Quoting Commander Cold
Me too.....I'm only 12 years old.
I buy all of my sets from Ebay.

I'm 16, but I played with my dad's '79 sets when I went to his parents house, and my uncles' later sets when I went to my mom's parents house.
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| December 17, 2012, 6:47 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Guys, you can't imagine how much willpower it is taking not to comment on all the great stuff that is getting posted.


David, how many pieces do the minifigures count as? I need to know so that my build is not over..
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| December 17, 2012, 9:41 pm
David and David, could you take a final look at the M:Tron 64 on the due date? I add new alternate models every couple of days.
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| December 17, 2012, 9:42 pm
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Quoting Matthew Oh

David, how many pieces do the minifigures count as? I need to know so that my build is not over..

Mini fig counts as 1 piece. Looking forward to seeing what you've dreamt up Matthew.
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| December 17, 2012, 10:29 pm
Quoting Gerald F.
There's one little problem I'm going through, I have never owned a classic space set, so sadly I don't know how good I am at build at a simpler scale.

This is the joy of the challenge! Like writing a short story, you have to make every brick count, and not let your big ideas distract you from the core concept. Good luck!
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| December 18, 2012, 6:50 pm
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Quoting Eric Landreneau
This is the joy of the challenge! Like writing a short story, you have to make every brick count, and not let your big ideas distract you from the core concept. Good luck!

Perfectly put.
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| December 19, 2012, 9:53 am
Seems like this contest is getting noticed...
http://thelegocarblog.wordpress.com/
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| December 21, 2012, 10:04 am
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Quoting Nick Barrett
Seems like this contest is getting noticed...
http://thelegocarblog.wordpress.com/

That's cool. I hopefully have one further little surprise up my sleeve before the contest ends. Keep your eyes peeled.
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| December 21, 2012, 12:27 pm
My holydays end on january 10th... I believe I'm in! But I have something to do first ;)
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| December 21, 2012, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Tom Remy
My holydays end on january 10th... I believe I'm in! But I have something to do first ;)

Excellent! Can't wait to see your MOC Olympics final entry.
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| December 21, 2012, 5:53 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
That's cool. I hopefully have one further little surprise up my sleeve before the contest ends. Keep your eyes peeled.

Is it a small handgun like Moriarty had up his sleeve?

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| December 21, 2012, 9:23 pm
The clock continues to tick. Between my crazy work schedule, (which always gets crazier this time of year), my Christmas preparations here at home, and illnesses to myself and the other two people who live under this roof with me, I am finding very little LEGO time. It's so bad that I have had a finished MOC sitting in my living room for nearing two weeks and haven't even taken pictures of it, let alone gotten it posted yet. LEGO as well as this contest, so far, I'm sorry to say, has been losing the priority fight. I am very excited about this contest, and am trying desperately to fit it in. To the Davids: If it turns out that I miss the deadline on this, it was because of time restraints, not because of a lack of interest.
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| December 21, 2012, 11:39 pm
I took the freedom to link to this contest in my "Classic Space - The Return" build series. Hope you dont Mind David. :)
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| December 27, 2012, 4:42 am
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Quoting LEGO Family
I took the freedom to link to this contest in my "Classic Space - The Return" build series. Hope you dont Mind David. :)

No please do, BTW I've dropped you a comment on your latest MOC, but it is in moderation I'm afraid.

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| December 27, 2012, 4:46 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
No please do, BTW I've dropped you a comment on your latest MOC, but it is in moderation I'm afraid.


Somethings wrong with your comments today. Earlier i did see your comment had arrived, but i never got a chance to read it, since i was in a hurry ... And now its gone, also your your build " The beast and the sovereign", took forever to show your comments, even though MOCpages did insist you had replied .. LOL .... Just wanted you to know... Also since im eager to read what you think of part two of our Classic Space build ... :)
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| December 27, 2012, 7:11 pm
The idea of using a small number of parts to make a model with a few alternate models has caught my interest. Will there be another contest that presents a similar challenge?
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| December 27, 2012, 8:30 pm
Quoting JWG 258
The idea of using a small number of parts to make a model with a few alternate models has caught my interest. Will there be another contest that presents a similar challenge?


You still have till the 10th of january .. So its not to late. :) .... However i feel that David might be thinking of making a Classic Castle contest at some point in the future ... Or it might just be me hoping that will happen also ..
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| December 27, 2012, 8:36 pm
I got my entry for this contest in within a few days after it opened. I've been taking apart other MOCs and making alternate MOCs with them for a few weeks.
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| December 27, 2012, 9:07 pm
Quoting JWG 258
I got my entry for this contest in within a few days after it opened. I've been taking apart other MOCs and making alternate MOCs with them for a few weeks.


Oh sorry ... To me it just sounded like you thought it was over and hadnt been part of it ... There are many groups on MOCPages that does regular contests ... Or you can find a MOCoff group to compete for the fun ... Just in case you didnt know.
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| December 27, 2012, 9:12 pm
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Quoting JWG 258
The idea of using a small number of parts to make a model with a few alternate models has caught my interest. Will there be another contest that presents a similar challenge?

I'm not sure. This is my first attempt at running this kind of thing. Maybe, if I come up with an interesting idea - let's wait and see.

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| December 28, 2012, 6:17 am
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Quoting JWG 258
David and David, could you take a final look at the M:Tron 64 on the due date? I add new alternate models every couple of days.

Don't worry, we haven't done any judging yet, so we'll have to check all of the entries once the competition closes.
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| December 28, 2012, 11:27 am
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Quoting Tim C
The clock continues to tick. Between my crazy work schedule, (which always gets crazier this time of year), my Christmas preparations here at home, and illnesses to myself and the other two people who live under this roof with me, I am finding very little LEGO time. It's so bad that I have had a finished MOC sitting in my living room for nearing two weeks and haven't even taken pictures of it, let alone gotten it posted yet. LEGO as well as this contest, so far, I'm sorry to say, has been losing the priority fight. I am very excited about this contest, and am trying desperately to fit it in. To the Davids: If it turns out that I miss the deadline on this, it was because of time restraints, not because of a lack of interest.

Please do post whatever you build eventually. The fun thing about this contest has been seen all of the different creations and the variations. Hope life gets a bit less busy for you!
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| December 28, 2012, 11:32 am
Quoting David Roberts
Don't worry, we haven't done any judging yet, so we'll have to check all of the entries once the competition closes.

Take a look at my Xylon Cruiser!
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| December 30, 2012, 4:13 pm
I know it's stated that a fig has a count of one. But... does a helmeted fig count as one unit or two(helmet & fig)? Also... antennae have 2 functioning parts: a base and a rod do the two together count as one unit or two pieces? Thanks! I've completed my first build! Challenging, but good 'cuz it has really made me think about the pieces' purpose(s)! Thanks for this challenge... I think?... hee, hee! I await your answer! :)
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| January 1, 2013, 8:31 pm
What if your entry is about 200 pieces...

Is the limit really 100? My entry isn't gigantic, it's about the size of Crimso Giger's entry.
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| January 1, 2013, 11:12 pm
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Quoting Topsy Creatori(StoveTop nomore!)
I know it's stated that a fig has a count of one. But... does a helmeted fig count as one unit or two(helmet & fig)? Also... antennae have 2 functioning parts: a base and a rod do the two together count as one unit or two pieces? Thanks! I've completed my first build! Challenging, but good 'cuz it has really made me think about the pieces' purpose(s)! Thanks for this challenge... I think?... hee, hee! I await your answer! :)

Hi Topsy, the fig counts as one, that is helmet, head, oxygen tanks, torso and legs. The rule for other pieces is simple, if they come as distinct parts in the box, then count each part, but if they come already combined (levers and bases) then they count as one.

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| January 2, 2013, 6:00 am
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Quoting M2com McKinney
What if your entry is about 200 pieces...

Is the limit really 100? My entry isn't gigantic, it's about the size of Crimso Giger's entry.


Rules are rules. 100 pieces signifies the top end of elements that a CS pocket money set would contain. Any more and I think we are talking mid-range sets. I'm afraid a 200 piece set would be disqualified. Your challenge, as it seems it was for the designers back in the day, is how to retain your concept, but also reduce your piece count. Good luck!
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| January 2, 2013, 6:04 am
It is my only reason for joining MOCpages, i think it says more than any words about this contest's greatness.
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| January 2, 2013, 8:33 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Hi Topsy, the fig counts as one, that is helmet, head, oxygen tanks, torso and legs. The rule for other pieces is simple, if they come as distinct parts in the box, then count each part, but if they come already combined (levers and bases) then they count as one.

Phew... that's a releif! I'm sooooo close to my count of 100! I've got 3 pix taken of the main moc! :)
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| January 2, 2013, 2:22 pm
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Quoting Topsy Creatori(StoveTop nomore!)
Phew... that's a releif! I'm sooooo close to my count of 100! I've got 3 pix taken of the main moc! :)

I'm excited, as I'm sure you'll have a unique take.
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| January 2, 2013, 2:27 pm
I'm right in thinking the deadline is STILL 10/1/13? Just another week to go....
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| January 4, 2013, 9:47 am
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Quoting andros tempest
I'm right in thinking the deadline is STILL 10/1/13? Just another week to go....

Yes 10/1/13 is the deadline.
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| January 4, 2013, 7:02 pm
OK its game on. Built my first model last night and took the photos this morning. Currently building my second model which I hope to photo tomorrow morn. Not sure when I will have time for the third but fingers crossed. Good luck everyone, there have been some fantastic entries so far and I am really looking forward to the rest. :D
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| January 5, 2013, 5:57 pm
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So, the time for entering the competition is nearly up. As a judge, I can't wait to zoom around MOCpages, giving out smiley faces and saying nice things about the amazing, weird and wonderful creations that have been submitted.

It's been so fustrating having to keep quiet for all of this time.
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| January 7, 2013, 4:01 pm
It has been a fantastic contest/group so far. Win, lose or draw it has been great fun just taking part. Just a suggestion but maybe we can keep the group active after the contest is over.
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| January 7, 2013, 4:19 pm
Quoting MortalSwordsman .
It has been a fantastic contest/group so far. Win, lose or draw it has been great fun just taking part. Just a suggestion but maybe we can keep the group active after the contest is over.

I'd second that. A group reserved for pocket sized CS models; still within the contest piece count, of course.
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| January 7, 2013, 4:21 pm
Quoting Matthew Smith
I'd second that. A group reserved for pocket sized CS models; still within the contest piece count, of course.
Even better. Great idea Matthew

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| January 7, 2013, 4:30 pm
Quoting MortalSwordsman .
Quoting Matthew Smith
I'd second that. A group reserved for pocket sized CS models; still within the contest piece count, of course.
Even better. Great idea Matthew

I agree to that too. Could the group be renamed to "The Classic Space Pocket Money Group"?
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| January 8, 2013, 4:15 am
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Quoting MortalSwordsman .
It has been a fantastic contest/group so far. Win, lose or draw it has been great fun just taking part. Just a suggestion but maybe we can keep the group active after the contest is over.

Seems a great idea. Why not keep it live.
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| January 8, 2013, 5:33 am
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Quoting Locutus 666
I agree to that too. Could the group be renamed to "The Classic Space Pocket Money Group"?

Yes, simply done I guess.
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| January 8, 2013, 5:42 am
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Quoting David Roberts
So, the time for entering the competition is nearly up. As a judge, I can't wait to zoom around MOCpages, giving out smiley faces and saying nice things about the amazing, weird and wonderful creations that have been submitted.

It's been so fustrating having to keep quiet for all of this time.

Agreed, can't wait to leave comments on some of the brilliant things posted here.

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| January 8, 2013, 5:44 am
And now the group needs to activate the adrenalin meter :)
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| January 8, 2013, 5:52 am
T-minus 48 hours and counting... Houston we are a go for lift off.
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| January 8, 2013, 7:30 am
Brill compo, and a great idea to keep the group alive - well done Davids, long live the CS revolution!
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| January 8, 2013, 9:37 am
I am having trouble with the uploader, my photos are not all uploaded yet. Can you delay judging mine slightly til I get the rest up? It is already partially uploaded so you can see I did actually make it.
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| January 9, 2013, 6:55 pm
This uploader thing is proving to be the bane of my existence. My entry is nearly complete, (with the correct number of pieces this time), but I'm beginning to fear that I will not be able to upload it. Are extensions being granted for the uploader problem? If not, I will still upload it when the system is running again, but what a bummer.
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| January 10, 2013, 2:07 am
I hope you both get an extension. How about flickr? You could upload a few pics and leave a link here???
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| January 10, 2013, 2:21 am
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Quoting Tim C
This uploader thing is proving to be the bane of my existence. My entry is nearly complete, (with the correct number of pieces this time), but I'm beginning to fear that I will not be able to upload it. Are extensions being granted for the uploader problem? If not, I will still upload it when the system is running again, but what a bummer.

With the uploader causing problems, I think it only fair to allow you time to get the posting up.
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| January 10, 2013, 4:19 am
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Quoting SuperSpy X
I am having trouble with the uploader, my photos are not all uploaded yet. Can you delay judging mine slightly til I get the rest up? It is already partially uploaded so you can see I did actually make it.

With the uploader causing problems, I think it only fair to allow you time to get the posting up.
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| January 10, 2013, 4:20 am
So, assuming only a few more people enter, how long will the judging period last?
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| January 10, 2013, 10:58 am
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Quoting Matthew Smith
So, assuming only a few more people enter, how long will the judging period last?

David and I have had a couple of discussions, and all being well, we plan to complete our judging over the weekend and post the outcome on Monday. If we are delayed we'll let you know.
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| January 10, 2013, 11:01 am
Cool, I was expecting more like 4-5 days.
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| January 10, 2013, 12:10 pm
Hey, Davids! Just wanted to let you know that I have uploaded my entry onto my Flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timlego/

Once the uploader begins working again here, I will upload it with more of a description and add it to the group. Hope you like it.
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| January 10, 2013, 9:59 pm
Quoting MortalSwordsman .
I hope you both get an extension. How about flickr? You could upload a few pics and leave a link here???

Ha! That's funny. I just read this after I got done doing that exact thing. Good suggestion, Joe.
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| January 10, 2013, 10:05 pm
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Quoting Tim C
Hey, Davids! Just wanted to let you know that I have uploaded my entry onto my Flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timlego/

Once the uploader begins working again here, I will upload it with more of a description and add it to the group. Hope you like it.

Yes! Fantastic, so glad you got it in.
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| January 11, 2013, 2:19 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
With the uploader causing problems, I think it only fair to allow you time to get the posting up.

Thanks, David.
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| January 11, 2013, 6:41 pm
When will judging begin?
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| January 12, 2013, 1:16 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
When will judging begin?

Have a look a few posts up, We are working hard this weekend, with results early next week. I'm about half way.
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| January 12, 2013, 1:19 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Have a look a few posts up, We are working hard this weekend, with results early next week. I'm about half way.

Great, I look forward to seeing the results.
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| January 12, 2013, 1:20 pm
I am almost done with my entry, I just have a few images to upload and text to put in.
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| January 13, 2013, 1:55 pm
My great admiration for the contest-inventers and the many interesting and awesome entries!
Also the deadline is over, i will try to built an CS-pocket as an normal moc.
One question: is old-grey usual, or is blue or white suitable, too? ( that's the colours of the CS stuff i had owned, in my childhood.)
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| January 13, 2013, 2:44 pm
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Quoting Stephan Schumann
My great admiration for the contest-inventers and the many interesting and awesome entries!
Also the deadline is over, i will try to built an CS-pocket as an normal moc.
One question: is old-grey usual, or is blue or white suitable, too? ( that's the colours of the CS stuff i had owned, in my childhood.)

Both colour combinations are fine. Once the results of the competition are out, the group will continue as a normal group, so feel free to add your build then.
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| January 13, 2013, 3:03 pm
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Many apologies to the competitors and the spectators who are waiting for the results of the judging. David has finished doing all of his comments and marks. I'm causing the delay but I am half way through all of the entries. We want to compare notes before we publish the results and post the comments and most of all: declare the winner!
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| January 14, 2013, 9:47 am
Quoting David Roberts
Many apologies to the competitors and the spectators who are waiting for the results of the judging. David has finished doing all of his comments and marks. I'm causing the delay but I am half way through all of the entries. We want to compare notes before we publish the results and post the comments and most of all: declare the winner!

Good things will take a while... :)
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| January 15, 2013, 2:30 am
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Both colour combinations are fine. Once the results of the competition are out, the group will continue as a normal group, so feel free to add your build then.

So this is going to turn into a kind of Classic Space group? I was thinking someone should do that when you started this thing up a month or so ago.
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| January 15, 2013, 12:21 pm
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I've just finished writing over 7,800 word of comments on the 31 entries to the contest. My housemates are begining to think that I'm a bit strange, having spent two days looking at Lego and writing about it.

Having said, this is nothing compared to the giant efforts that David Alexander Smith has put into thinking of, organising, moderating and judging the whole event.

The results will be out soon!
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| January 15, 2013, 1:59 pm
you both need to have some prize, too
Quoting David Roberts
I've just finished writing over 7,800 word of comments on the 31 entries to the contest. My housemates are begining to think that I'm a bit strange, having spent two days looking at Lego and writing about it.

Having said, this is nothing compared to the giant efforts that David Alexander Smith has put into thinking of, organising, moderating and judging the whole event.

The results will be out soon!


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| January 15, 2013, 2:26 pm
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Quoting granada turnier

I feel as though I've written close to a book too. The results are ready to post by the way.
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| January 15, 2013, 2:37 pm
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Everyone hold your horses, we have a tie for third place. David and I will have to negotiate this before the scores go up!
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| January 15, 2013, 2:49 pm
I'm confused - are we supposed to receive comments from you two on our creations? If so, I don't think I've received any.
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| January 15, 2013, 3:17 pm
I'm confused - are we supposed to have received comments on our creations?
If so, I want to inform you that I have no received such comments. Sorry if you're working on it, I'm just a little unsure as to how this is working.
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| January 15, 2013, 3:19 pm
Quoting David Alexander Smith
Everyone hold your horses, we have a tie for third place. David and I will have to negotiate this before the scores go up!

The suspense is killing me! :P
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| January 15, 2013, 3:19 pm
Eeaarrgghh! Must...know...must...know...now...*dieing*... must...*clunk*
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| January 15, 2013, 3:27 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
I'm confused - are we supposed to have received comments on our creations?
If so, I want to inform you that I have no received such comments. Sorry if you're working on it, I'm just a little unsure as to how this is working.

Hi,

Once we've sorted out the tie for third place, David & I will start to post all of the scores & comments on the pages of each creation.

I think that David will make an official announcement in this group too.

Nearly there!
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| January 15, 2013, 3:30 pm
Quoting David Roberts
Nearly there!


EEEEEH!!!!! (I don't care if that's a girlish shriek!)
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| January 15, 2013, 3:37 pm
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Quoting David Roberts
Hi,

Once we've sorted out the tie for third place, David & I will start to post all of the scores & comments on the pages of each creation.

I think that David will make an official announcement in this group too.

Nearly there!

Just dropped you an email with what I think is a fair way to draw a line between the entries. Let me know if you agree and I'll go ahead and make the formal announcement.
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| January 15, 2013, 3:51 pm
Since the contest is over, can we start posting other pocket models?
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| January 17, 2013, 2:05 pm
Quoting Matthew Smith
Since the contest is over, can we start posting other pocket models?

I should've Never been In this Contest.
Now I must Suffer the Shame Losing.

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| January 18, 2013, 7:59 am
Quoting Commander Cold
I should've Never been In this Contest.
Now I must Suffer the Shame Losing.

Hardly shameful, you didn't really lose, and your model was quite impressive, considering you didn't have any CS sets ;)

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| January 18, 2013, 10:41 am
Quoting Matthew Smith
Quoting Commander Cold
I should've Never been In this Contest.
Now I must Suffer the Shame Losing.

Hardly shameful, you didn't really lose, and your model was quite impressive, considering you didn't have any CS sets ;)

Actually, I do. I have 4 Ice Planet 2002 Sets.
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| January 19, 2013, 6:27 pm
Quoting Commander Cold
Quoting Matthew Smith
Quoting Commander Cold
I should've Never been In this Contest.
Now I must Suffer the Shame Losing.

Hardly shameful, you didn't really lose, and your model was quite impressive, considering you didn't have any CS sets ;)

Actually, I do. I have 4 Ice Planet 2002 Sets.

Yes, and your Ice Planet model was quite impressive, but I meant '78-87 space ;)
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| January 20, 2013, 4:01 pm
Quoting Matthew Smith
Yes, and your Ice Planet model was quite impressive, but I meant '78-87 space ;)

Check Out THIS One then!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/352088
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| January 21, 2013, 6:51 pm
I'm glad that got clarified. I was wondering when classic space ended and regular space began.
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| January 22, 2013, 7:18 am
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Quoting Commander Cold
Check Out THIS One then!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/352088

Looks good Commander.
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| January 22, 2013, 10:52 am
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Quoting Commander Cold
Check Out THIS One then!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/352088

Looks good Commander.
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| January 22, 2013, 10:52 am
Merry Christmas.
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| December 25, 2013, 9:27 am
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