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Round One Debriefing
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How has the competition been thus far? Use this thread to discuss the first round and pass the time until the results are announced.
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| September 14, 2011, 12:02 am
I gotta say, this is going to be one heckuva year. The quality of many of the entries is outstanding, and I'm sure that the judges will have their work cut out for them. With that said, I hope I move on, but with the limited spots and the abundance of grand entries, my chances will no doubt be lessened.
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| September 14, 2011, 12:07 am
I'm really pleased to see so many great builds coming in. I'd give it 50:50 if mine manages to squeak by par.
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| September 14, 2011, 12:13 am
HA! got it in JUST in time.
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| September 14, 2011, 12:20 am
Quoting David Cook
HA! got it in JUST in time.
Maybe you could teach that to Matt David... >_>

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| September 14, 2011, 12:28 am
Well, I hope I can get to round two. My goal is round three, but I doubt I'll make it that far. Even if I stop here, that was a fun first round! Thanks judges for hosting this contest!
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| September 14, 2011, 3:17 am
Unbelievable competition this year!
Surely hope I'll make it into R2.... Maybe I'll just pass through as #64, would be epic!
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| September 14, 2011, 3:22 am
I wish I had more time to build my entry, so many great entries...
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| September 14, 2011, 3:31 am
Isn't there room for 128 contestants this year? :p. There are at least 128 good entries...
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| September 14, 2011, 4:38 am
I made a comment, but Mocpages crashed just when I posted it so it didn't appear. >:(

Anyway, here's what I said: I hope I'll get to round 2 this year. There is only 64 spots available, and there is so much great entries this year, so hopefully I'll just sneak through with my entry.
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| September 14, 2011, 5:19 am
Good luck All, i think i might need after seeing all the wonderful creations. I've tried to comment on all the entries, sorry if i missed you out. As i said Good luck :)
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| September 14, 2011, 5:26 am
There are fantastic entries and for my first time here in MocOlympics, this is really scary!!:) I just love competitions I I hope I see you guys in round two...
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| September 14, 2011, 5:32 am
Hi friends, this is my first time on Moc Olympics, and I like it a lot. There are a lot of great Builder, I congratulate everyone and wish everyone good luck. Bye all
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| September 14, 2011, 5:53 am
I got scared half to death, last night I just noticed the sighn up thread! I didn't know you had to sighn up, I thought you just posted. talk about a close call.
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| September 14, 2011, 8:14 am
hey um, the image uploader wasn't working for me when i uploaded my MOC Except for the main picture, so i uploaded all the other pics as a new MOC in the same folder. I read somewhere that editing the MOC after you post it is not allowed, so i was just asking if its ok if I add a link to the other pics to the entry. I said I got the other pics up in the description of the MOC, but people didn't catch it bacause one person at least said they would have liked to see more pictures.
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| September 14, 2011, 8:14 am
The tension is KILLING ME! -rips handfuls of hair in frustration-
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| September 14, 2011, 8:45 am
Quoting Yuri Fassio
The tension is KILLING ME! -rips handfuls of hair in frustration-

*nervously rubbing hands together*
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| September 14, 2011, 9:40 am
I'm not to confidant about my MOC, the picture is unflattering, the lighting scheme that I tried to use failed miserably, and the uploader didn't like my pictures, so I had to upload each pic as a new MOC, but then forgot to put up links to them in the description, so people have to look for them (although they are in the same folder as my MOC) and most don't find them... I hope the judges have some unnatural liking for me, or else I'll fail miserably...
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| September 14, 2011, 9:49 am
Quoting Sebeus I
I wish I had more time to build my entry, so many great entries...


Me too, school has been pretty busy these last two weeks... I'm not really happy with my entry but hopefully I'll squeeze into the top 64...

If I can make it to Round 3, it will coincide with some holidays here in Israel so I'll have a lot more time for building in Rounds 3 & 4 (heh if I don't end up going against Dave Sterling in round 2)
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| September 14, 2011, 9:55 am
Quoting Yuri Fassio
The tension is KILLING ME! -rips handfuls of hair in frustration-


Oops, there goes the rest of Yuri's hair.

*removes the hairpiece from Yuri's sigfig*
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| September 14, 2011, 9:55 am
Quoting Yuri Fassio
The tension is KILLING ME! -rips handfuls of hair in frustration-



Don't stress, sort! Last year I needed the three or so days between rounds to reorganise and just de-Lego for a bit. Tonight I shall watch champions league football on TV and sort. Nothing we can do until results are announced so don't worry about it.

On a personal note, I'm chuffed to bits to see over 150 entries for the first round and the quality has been really good. The field this year will be strong and it'll be interesting to see the R2 match-ups and the brackets from there on in.
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| September 14, 2011, 10:04 am
when will the group be closed?

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| September 14, 2011, 10:09 am
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Quoting Manthan Dutta
when will the group be closed?


It already is. Sorry, dude.
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| September 14, 2011, 10:40 am
Everyone can comfort themselves knowing they have a massive 40% chance of getting through to the next round.....
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| September 14, 2011, 11:00 am
Quoting J H
Everyone can comfort themselves knowing they have a massive 40% chance of getting through to the next round.....

Only 40%??? I'm afraid I won't pass, but I keep my hope.
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| September 14, 2011, 11:05 am
When will the results be announced?
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| September 14, 2011, 11:13 am
So excited! I hope I make it through. This first round has given me a small taste of the MO's, and now I want more!
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| September 14, 2011, 11:21 am
Quoting Ru Corder
and now I want more!


Great saying... When I first made my MOC I thought that it would be somewhat easy to pass *kuch* *kuch* (first year ever) *kuch* *kuch* but when I saw all of the other entries (and yet I have not seen them all) I was totally shocked of the quality! And now, my goal of getting at least to round 3...
...is bribery possible?
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| September 14, 2011, 11:43 am
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Quoting Rinse Jan

...is bribery possible?


Well, anything's "POSSIBLE"... Unlikely though.

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| September 14, 2011, 11:56 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Well, anything's "POSSIBLE"... Unlikely though.

Anything is possible when your man smells like old spices and not a lady.
I'm on a horse!

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| September 14, 2011, 1:22 pm
Quoting raphael heusser
Anything is possible when your man smells like old spices and not a lady.
I'm on a horse!

...look at your man, and back to me. And back at your man, then back to me. Sadly... he isn't me :D
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| September 14, 2011, 1:38 pm
Round one has been a lot of fun! Although I must confess that I'm rather overwhelmed by everyone's awesome entries, and am wishing I'd done something bigger! Size doesn't matter though does it? I don't think I'm going to be in the top 64, so well done winners! Gets me excited, I can't wait to see who comes out on top! So much talent here!
Ian
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| September 14, 2011, 2:02 pm
I have to say, the quality this round was astounding. I'd almost be happy to lose this round.

Almost. I do have a record to beat, afterall.

Not that round 2 is much of a record...

Yeah, this comment has lost coherency... Good luck to everyone!
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| September 14, 2011, 3:36 pm
These are some amazing MOCs being posted! I'm guessing that new-fangled bracket system has upped everyone's game! The scores will be very interesting.
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| September 14, 2011, 3:44 pm
You know, this was the first time that I actually built a moc with a serious intention. This competition seems really fun and I hope to do it again! I hope I'm in Round 2!
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| September 14, 2011, 4:15 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Well, anything's "POSSIBLE"... Unlikely though.

Wit that you mean unlikely if it's too little?
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| September 14, 2011, 4:42 pm
I was glad to see so many entries come in, and I'm glad I got mine in, with less than an hour to spare!
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| September 14, 2011, 5:19 pm
Well...comparing to last years first round (no offence!) this years entries have amazingly improved. I'll be happy to kick it to the third round this year, the competition is murder! But one may never know... That, and the fact I'm playing with unfamiliar parts (shut it Phipson) since my collection totally went into an art project with Lego. But hey, let's see what happens. Fondling Lennaerts shiny new bricks sure sparkles the inspiration!
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| September 14, 2011, 5:32 pm
"little do they know that our hero doesn't wear briefs!"
~Spaceman spiff
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| September 14, 2011, 5:40 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Well, anything's "POSSIBLE"... Unlikely though.


When we can't bribe you... we have to blackmail you! Lucky I have some video material that might get onto youtube if I don't get into the next round...
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| September 14, 2011, 5:44 pm
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Quoting Jelle Heijne

When we can't bribe you... we have to blackmail you! Lucky I have some video material that might get onto youtube if I don't get into the next round...


Lee's been giving out that one again has he?

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| September 14, 2011, 5:48 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Lee's been giving out that one again has he?

I usually don't give away my source... but if I get into R2 I will...
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| September 14, 2011, 5:49 pm
... im not getting into round two this year maybe next
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| September 14, 2011, 6:17 pm
Anticipation overwhelming mind! Save me!

Anyway, I really hope I make it, but school may kill me if I do, as I have tons of work. Nevertheless, I still hope.

I wish good luck to everyone!
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| September 14, 2011, 6:25 pm
I didn't think I was going to have one done on time, luckily I was able to whip something together. I will probably not make it though because of it's simplicity. Who knows though... The competition is rediculously fierce this year!
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| September 14, 2011, 6:25 pm
I'm blown away by the raw talent in place here. I fear for the next few rounds (if I even get that far.)
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| September 14, 2011, 6:26 pm
Haha i fear for this round... So many great entries..... I do suffer from parentshatelegoandthinkitsawasteoftime disease and lackofpieces disease though... maybe i can get further next year since i am old enough to work now i can but more pieces
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| September 14, 2011, 6:28 pm
some one should run a consoladation tourny for the people who don't make round 2
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| September 14, 2011, 6:30 pm
Quoting Josh O
some one should run a consoladation tourny for the people who don't make round 2

You never know.....
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| September 14, 2011, 6:39 pm
Quoting Josh O
I do suffer from parentshatelegoandthinkitsawasteoftime disease


You said "shat". Hehehehe

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| September 14, 2011, 6:43 pm
Quoting Josh O
some one should run a consoladation tourny for the people who don't make round 2

They run side games.
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| September 14, 2011, 6:51 pm
Quoting Barrett K.
They run side games.

they do

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| September 14, 2011, 7:06 pm
Quoting Josh O
they do

Yeah, they're quite interesting.
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| September 14, 2011, 7:08 pm
Quoting Barrett K.
Yeah, they're quite interesting.

ok
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| September 14, 2011, 7:09 pm
I hope I can make it to round three. (I would like to win at least one head to head round.)
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| September 14, 2011, 9:07 pm
Quoting Grant W.
I hope I can make it to round three. (I would like o win at least one head to head round.)

Me too :D
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| September 14, 2011, 9:08 pm
Well there is a one in three or so chance of getting into the next round if all the builds were the same, but some builds are much better than others so only 1/3 of us will get to the next round.
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| September 14, 2011, 9:09 pm
Quoting Green Ghost .
Well there is a one in three or so chance of getting into the next round if all the builds were the same, but some builds are much better than others so only 1/3 of us will get to the next round.

for me its like a 1 in 50 chance
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| September 14, 2011, 9:17 pm
Whew! I looked through all 11 pages of entries, and I'm very impressed!
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| September 14, 2011, 9:35 pm
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
"little do they know that our hero doesn't wear briefs!"
~Spaceman spiff

Nice! I love Calvin and Hobbes.
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| September 14, 2011, 9:43 pm
My goal this year is round 3, but Ill say the quality of some opponents will give my stadium a run for its money this round... The competition is great this year
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| September 14, 2011, 10:06 pm
3 days ago, I thought I would definitely make it to round 2...Then a crud load of good entries got put up...Now I can only hope.
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| September 14, 2011, 10:10 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

You said "shat". Hehehehe


XD
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| September 14, 2011, 10:30 pm
It's been great so far. :D Can't wait to see the results.
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| September 14, 2011, 10:31 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

You said "shat". Hehehehe

You know what, I read it exactly the same.... :)
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| September 15, 2011, 1:37 am
Quoting Josh O
Haha i fear for this round... So many great entries..... I do suffer from parentshatelegoandthinkitsawasteoftime disease and lackofpieces disease though... maybe i can get further next year since i am old enough to work now i can but more pieces

sounds similar to my disease.
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| September 15, 2011, 1:47 am
Quoting Josh O
I do suffer from parentshatelegoandthinkitsawasteoftime
You could always act like you've started taking drugs, then they'll be glad you're only addicted to LEGO ;)

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| September 15, 2011, 1:55 am
Quoting Roger Brickjet
You could always act like you've started taking drugs
Might I add to any new AFOLs that it could work quite well with your spouse too. I told my wife about some persons "strange hobby" and she said she was glad I was into LEGO! WIN! (although I wouldn't mention any of the strange conversations that take place here...to anybody)
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| September 15, 2011, 4:30 am
Since I'm only talking to myself anyway...

After making it to round two last year I had hopes of at least doing the same this year.
But seeing all marvelous entries I would be surprised, to say the least, if I get in the top 100!
It's really inspiring to see, as mentioned before, how much builders have evolved since last year. I better start making some progress myself :) Good luck, everyone!
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| September 15, 2011, 5:30 am
Quoting Roger Brickjet
Quoting Josh O
I do suffer from parentshatelegoandthinkitsawasteoftime
You could always act like you've started taking drugs, then they'll be glad you're only addicted to LEGO ;)

godopoint ill point that out to them
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| September 15, 2011, 5:56 am
Quoting Sean Blaney
I'm blown away by the raw talent in place here. I fear for the next few rounds (if I even get that far.)

I agree, there is really going to be some hard competition this year. I wish I would have built a moc that would have enabled me to use more cool techniques but it is too late now, so I guess I'll just have to hope for the best.

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| September 15, 2011, 6:29 am
As many have said- Boy, the competition is stiff!
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| September 15, 2011, 8:06 am
Quoting Josh O
for me its like a 1 in 50 chance

Hey keep your chin up dude! You never know... Even if you do not make it, take what you have learned from this experience to make yourself a better builder. I have seen your work and you do have some skills my friend! Keep up the good work and who knows how far you could go!
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| September 15, 2011, 11:34 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
Well, anything's "POSSIBLE"... Unlikely though.

Quoting Deus Otiosus
Wit that you mean unlikely if it's too little?

Will the price of one towerbridge do!?
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| September 15, 2011, 11:41 am
Quoting Rinse Jan
Will the price of one towerbridge do!?

You could just buy a tower bridge set and pretend you won... That's what I am probably going to end up doing. :P
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| September 15, 2011, 12:10 pm
I had a lot of fun in round one. I hope that I can make it to round two.
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| September 15, 2011, 12:59 pm
Did anyone like mine (it was the river with the picnickers?)

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| September 15, 2011, 2:21 pm
Quoting Ben Sheppard
Did anyone like mine (it was the river with the picnickers?)

Yep, at least sixteen people, including me.
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| September 15, 2011, 3:00 pm
Quoting Ben Sheppard
Did anyone like mine (it was the river with the picnickers?)

Yup! I liked it!
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| September 15, 2011, 3:59 pm
Quoting J H
Everyone can comfort themselves knowing they have a massive 40% chance of getting through to the next round.....




Actually after calculating and given that there are probably 2 or 3 people who forgot the link it's actually closer to 32% chance
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| September 15, 2011, 8:11 pm
Just curious, has the judging started yet?
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| September 16, 2011, 2:12 am
thanks everyone I like all the competition as well..... ;)
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| September 16, 2011, 2:25 am
Quoting Flare .
Just curious, has the judging started yet?

It has indeed, they're sorting out the tied scores at the moment. (I think :P)
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| September 16, 2011, 2:40 am
Quoting James Mckinnon



Actually after calculating and given that there are probably 2 or 3 people who forgot the link it's actually closer to 32% chance


Bit of a math fail there. If the number of entries submitted is decreased, the probability of someone getting through increases, assuming you're not one of the submissions disqualified. ;)
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| September 16, 2011, 6:36 am
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Quoting Flare .
Just curious, has the judging started yet?


Yeap. We're just about done and we "should" be able to get some scores out during the day today. As there are 157 players, you may not ALL get them today but we'll get them out as quickly as we can.
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| September 16, 2011, 7:37 am
I'm out. Bye guys, hope the lucky 64 have fun.
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| September 16, 2011, 8:30 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Yeap. We're just about done and we "should" be able to get some scores out during the day today. As there are 157 players, you may not ALL get them today but we'll get them out as quickly as we can.

Wow, you guys work fast! Looks like we have some solid Admins here people.
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| September 16, 2011, 9:03 am
Quoting Chris Phipson

Yeap. We're just about done and we "should" be able to get some scores out during the day today. As there are 157 players, you may not ALL get them today but we'll get them out as quickly as we can.

Oh you guy's are making me edgie XD
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| September 16, 2011, 9:08 am
Quoting Flare .
I'm out. Bye guys, hope the lucky 64 have fun.


Unlucky, I'm still waiting... This is worse than exam results.

Looks like El Barto! is El Hatchetman! ;o)
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| September 16, 2011, 9:12 am
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Quoting J H

Unlucky, I'm still waiting... This is worse than exam results.

Looks like El Barto! is El Hatchetman! ;o)


Actually, I had the worst of it (though we tried to divide it as equally as possible). I was the lucky one that got to hand out the lowest scores... never a fun thing to do.

Anyway, everyone SHOULD have their scores within a few hours at the latest.
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| September 16, 2011, 9:34 am
Just curious. On what system does the judging go? Does every judge score every creation and then take the average or what? I have 47 points, 47 on what?
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| September 16, 2011, 10:49 am
Quoting Sam "The legoman" Knavel

Ugh, school, I won't get to see my score for a few hours! :(


Meh, getting scores is waaaaay overrated.

What was the pass threshold anyway?
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| September 16, 2011, 10:57 am
Man! Heath got kicked out man!!! No way mine will pass... still have some futile hope :p...
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| September 16, 2011, 10:58 am
I think I'm gonna die of anticipation, :?


Need. score.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:03 am
Quoting Ru Corder
I think I'm gonna die of anticipation, :?


Need. score.


TOO MUCH PRESSURE!! AAAAAH!!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 11:05 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
Didn't make it. Oh well, guess size does matter. Well done titan building winners! Your creations are incredible!

Sorry to hear. Will you be doing the side games?
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| September 16, 2011, 11:13 am
Quoting Ru Corder
Sorry to hear. Will you be doing the side games?

Which are those? Hehe, I'm kinda of out of the "Olympics spirit" right now, sorry.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:16 am
Quoting Giovanni & Lennaert Seynhaeve
Just curious. On what system does the judging go? Does every judge score every creation and then take the average or what? I have 47 points, 47 on what?


I would also be interested in knowing how judging was done and how scores were tabulated for posterity's sake.

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| September 16, 2011, 11:22 am
Quoting Brody Allen

I would also be interested in knowing how judging was done and how scores were tabulated for posterity's sake.

1-10 from each judge.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:23 am
Quoting Deus Otiosus
1-10 from each judge.

Ouch! I got smashed by them then! Oh well, there's always next year! :)
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| September 16, 2011, 11:27 am
Quoting Deus Otiosus
1-10 from each judge.


Thank you,

I would like to know also how many judges there were and who they are.

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| September 16, 2011, 11:28 am
Quoting Brody Allen

I would also be interested in knowing how judging was done and how scores were tabulated for posterity's sake.


Posterity my *^%&$%@ We should form a lynch mob and break up a few MOCs!

I think my failure was in only using 3 parts related to the topic. If I had used a 4th, my score would have been 25% better.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:28 am
Quoting Brody Allen

Thank you,

I would like to know also how many judges there were and who they are.

The judges are the group Administrators (I think).
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| September 16, 2011, 11:29 am
Quoting Brody Allen

Thank you,

I would like to know also how many judges there were and who they are.


Yeah! And addresses, for um, Christmas card mailing lists.

Let's face it, we're losers.

Waaaaah!!!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 11:30 am
Quoting J H

Posterity my *^%&$%@ We should form a lynch mob and break up a few MOCs!

I think my failure was in only using 3 parts related to the topic. If I had used a 4th, my score would have been 25% better.

Someones got to lose man! Might as well be you and me. And look on the bright side, no more required building! You're entry was very well built all the same.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:31 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
Someones got to lose man! Might as well be you and me. And look on the bright side, no more required building!


I'm only joking. I'm just so glad I got this far!
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| September 16, 2011, 11:34 am
Quoting Ian Spacek
Ouch! I got smashed by them then! Oh well, there's always next year! :)

I see no idea in entering it next year. The
entries next year will probably be better than the ones this year, I would just lose the first round for the third time if I enter it next year.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:35 am
Quoting Brody Allen

Thank you,

I would like to know also how many judges there were and who they are.

6 judges - stacy is backup.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:35 am
Quoting E.K.O . The
entries next year will probably be better than the ones this year.

And so will your building skills :)
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| September 16, 2011, 11:38 am
Sorry academic things, you're going to have to wait - I have the next round to worry about ;)

Sorry to all of those who didn't make it :( good luck in the side games.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:41 am
Quoting E.K.O .
I see no idea in entering it next year. The
entries next year will probably be better than the ones this year, I would just lose the first round for the third time if I enter it next year.

Ah don't say that! I thought your entry was great! And Ru is right, everyone can always improve. The MocOlympics is a great time to study others peoples MOCs and learn! And the larger majority of us is going to lose 64/157. I'm right here with you.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:41 am
Quoting Ru Corder
And so will your building skills :)

You are right about that. My buildings skills has improved since last years MocOlympics, and they'll get better.


However, the reason why I lost this year is that the entries this year were much better than the ones last year, last year I was lazy while building my entry and I didn't put much effort into it, but I lost with only one point behind. This year I put a lot of effort into my entry, and I actually think it's one of my best dioramas, but I lost with more than one point behind.
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| September 16, 2011, 11:56 am
Quoting George G.
Sorry academic things, you're going to have to wait - I have the next round to worry about ;)

Sorry to all of those who didn't make it :( good luck in the side games.

If we even make it to the side games.

Only the top 64 of those who didn't make are allowed to participate...
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| September 16, 2011, 12:03 pm
Round two here I come!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 12:31 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Round two here I come!!!


Congrats! Hope i'll see ya there!
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| September 16, 2011, 12:34 pm
Quoting Jelle Heijne

Congrats! Hope i'll see ya there!

Still no word of your score?
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| September 16, 2011, 12:39 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Still no word of your score?


Nope... You think it's a good thing??

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| September 16, 2011, 12:40 pm
Sorry for all who didn't made it, but:
round 2 here I come

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| September 16, 2011, 12:41 pm
Quoting Jelle Heijne

Nope... You think it's a good thing??


with me it just worked
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| September 16, 2011, 12:42 pm
Quoting Jelle Heijne

Nope... You think it's a good thing??

Well, low scores and high scores have both been given out. So I don't think getting it late means anything.
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| September 16, 2011, 12:44 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Well, low scores and high scores have both been given out. So I don't think getting it late means anything.


Didn't make it... 31 points.... SO CLOSE!!!
But I feel good about my score!
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| September 16, 2011, 12:47 pm
Quoting Jelle Heijne

Didn't make it... 31 points.... SO CLOSE!!!
But I feel good about my score!


Meh, try 35. I've seen one MOC get through with 35.6.....
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| September 16, 2011, 12:54 pm
Quoting J H

Meh, try 35. I've seen one MOC get through with 35.6.....


yep... that is even more lame... But, I'll see you in the side games!
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| September 16, 2011, 1:00 pm
Oh it's on round 2.
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| September 16, 2011, 1:25 pm
Quoting Sean Blaney
Oh it's on round 2.

YAHOO!! I made it to R2!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 1:36 pm
Hi everyone, I made it too :). Happy Days
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| September 16, 2011, 1:40 pm
You guys are lucky as you now can join the after party.

Oh well. I guess I will do better in the sidegames, just like last year.
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| September 16, 2011, 1:43 pm
I have'nt heard anything yet... :/ The tension is killing me!!!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 1:50 pm
I'll be Seeing everyone in round 2!
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| September 16, 2011, 2:50 pm
Made it to round two! :D
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| September 16, 2011, 3:05 pm
Where do we see our scores?
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| September 16, 2011, 3:18 pm
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Quoting Ryan Degener
Where do we see our scores?

Should be on your MOC, young padawan.

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| September 16, 2011, 3:24 pm
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Yeah no hard feelings Austin, but I must delete that as we don't want those interested in competing in the real MOC-O's or the official MIT tournament getting confused.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:25 pm
Quoting Matt David
Should be on your MOC, young padawan.

Thanks, I was just wondering because I just checked a few minutes ago and I still had no score.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:33 pm
Quoting J H

I'm only joking. I'm just so glad I got this far!


Sure your just joking!

I thought I was feeling bitter.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:35 pm
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Quoting Ryan Degener
Thanks, I was just wondering because I just checked a few minutes ago and I still had no score.

It may take a bit longer for some, as a few of our judges are a bit tied up.

No, literally, I tied Dave Kaleta up and he's in my basement. I'll let him free in a while.

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| September 16, 2011, 3:35 pm
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Quoting Eric W.
I have'nt heard anything yet... :/ The tension is killing me!!!!!



Quoting Ryan Degener
Where do we see our scores?


Master Kaleta actually has both of you in his "handing out scores" list. There will be a comment posted on your entry moc sometime really soon. (read: As soon as Dave gets home form work or whatever)

Hang in there guys, he'll get to it really soon.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:38 pm
Ok thanks Phip, sorry if I got annoying, Im just real nervous about my score...
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| September 16, 2011, 3:39 pm
well, i didnt make it. i guess ill try again next year...
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| September 16, 2011, 3:42 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson


Quoting Ryan Degener
Where do we see our scores?


Master Kaleta actually has both of you in his "handing out scores" list. There will be a comment posted on your entry moc sometime really soon. (read: As soon as Dave gets home form work or whatever)

Hang in there guys, he'll get to it really soon.

I wasn't trying to be annoying or anything! I was just sharing my excitment. Sorry bout that.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:42 pm
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Quoting Eric W.
I wasn't trying to be annoying or anything! I was just sharing my excitment. Sorry bout that.


Don't worry, I didn't take it as such. That's the problem with text... you can never hear the tone of what's being said. Rest assured, there was no annoyance in my "voice" when I typed that.

Good luck!
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| September 16, 2011, 3:46 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Don't worry, I didn't take it as such. That's the problem with text... you can never hear the tone of what's being said. Rest assured, there was no annoyance in my "voice" when I typed that.

Good luck!

Thanks!
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| September 16, 2011, 3:48 pm
Quoting Jake H
well, i didnt make it. i guess ill try again next year...

You can also join the 2012 MocAthalon which (probably) will be this winter. It's much better than the MocOlympics, as you can build as much entries as you want.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:48 pm
I've made it. I only hope Moffatt made it through too, he needs to be humbled by me in round two! ;-)
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| September 16, 2011, 3:48 pm
Quoting E.K.O .
You can also join the 2012 MocAthalon which (probably) will be this winter. It's much better than the MocOlympics, as you can build as much entries as you want.

ok thanks E.K.O! I will look for it.
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| September 16, 2011, 3:55 pm
Can i make a second chance tourney (looser bracket) for the less then awesome builders who didnt make it to round 2
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| September 16, 2011, 4:08 pm
I'd just like to say thanks to all the judges for their time and for the generous prizes. Good luck to the top 64 and may the best moccer win!
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| September 16, 2011, 4:09 pm
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Quoting Josh O
Can i make a second chance tourney (looser bracket) for the less then awesome builders who didnt make it to round 2


Already being done. But thanks for asking before just doing it. That's truly appreciated.
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| September 16, 2011, 4:15 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Already being done. But thanks for asking before just doing it. That's truly appreciated.

ya i know but i didnt make that eithr so i was just seeing if i could make another one but ok and yourwelcome
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| September 16, 2011, 4:22 pm
Quoting E.K.O .
You can also join the 2012 MocAthalon which (probably) will be this winter. It's much better than the MocOlympics, as you can build as much entries as you want.

I'll be on your team again :) we rattled entries off like there was no tomorrow! Make sure we get a team who will actually commit it to the contest though...
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| September 16, 2011, 4:28 pm
Well, I didn't make it. I wasn't really expecting to though, especially since I had to finish all of it in two days.
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| September 16, 2011, 5:08 pm
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Quoting Josh O
? is running a Contest similar to moc olympics he asked me to get people to join


That "contest" is not authorized by me and is not part of the Olympics in any way. Now, this is a free site and he can do what he wants, but I'm not too happy with him "advertising" his contest in my group here.
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| September 16, 2011, 5:19 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

That "contest" is not authorized by me and is not part of the Olympics in any way. Now, this is a free site and he can do what he wants, but I'm not too happy with him "advertising" his contest in my group here.

Ok i deleted the coment sorry i didnt mean to offend you in any way
Josh O and Austin
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| September 16, 2011, 5:21 pm
Yes!! I made it to round two! Thanks a ton judges for giving me a 40. Also when does the next round start?
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| September 16, 2011, 5:27 pm
Round two! I'm honored to have been seen fit to move onwards. Thank you, judges!
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| September 16, 2011, 5:52 pm
Ready for my next opponent in Round 2! Thanks judges for a 42 on the MOC!
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| September 16, 2011, 5:59 pm
I made it :) I got a 39!
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| September 16, 2011, 6:08 pm
Quoting Jake H
well, i didnt make it. i guess ill try again next year...

Ditto.
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| September 16, 2011, 6:08 pm
Hey, where is the "whining" thread?
I need It!
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| September 16, 2011, 6:23 pm
I'm disappointed in my score
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| September 16, 2011, 6:29 pm
wait... where are my briefs? I'VE BEEN DEBRIEFED!!!
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| September 16, 2011, 6:31 pm
Quoting Chas Irish
I'm disappointed in my score

Why? You were lucky enough to join the after party.
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| September 16, 2011, 6:33 pm
Quoting Yuri Fassio
Hey, where is the "whining" thread?
I need It!

I agree. :P
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| September 16, 2011, 6:33 pm
Quoting Thoy Bradley
Grats mate you made it!

I know! Can't wait for round two!
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| September 16, 2011, 7:10 pm
Quoting Thoy Bradley
My heartiest congratulations to Stormbringer, Blake Baer and Gabriel Thomson for the respective 1st, 2nd and 3rd placings for Round 1!! Great work!

Great job guys!
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| September 16, 2011, 7:30 pm
Quoting Thoy Bradley
My heartiest congratulations to Stormbringer, Blake Baer and Gabriel Thomson for the respective 1st, 2nd and 3rd placings for Round 1!! Great work!

How do you know that?
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| September 16, 2011, 7:34 pm
Quoting E.K.O .
How do you know that?

He looked at the scores. I did the same.
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| September 16, 2011, 7:35 pm
Quoting Thoy Bradley
My heartiest congratulations to Stormbringer, Blake Baer and Gabriel Thomson for the respective 1st, 2nd and 3rd placings for Round 1!! Great work!

Congrats guys! I sure hope I don't have to face any of you.
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| September 16, 2011, 7:37 pm
Whoohoo! I made it! Thanks judges! Is 50the perfect score?
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| September 16, 2011, 7:41 pm
Quoting Thoy Bradley
It was out of 60, 1-10 from each of the 6 judges.
Grats btw, I saw you made it. Your snow covered cottage was really well done - hit the Winter theme on the head.

Thanks!
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| September 16, 2011, 7:47 pm
Quoting E.K.O .
Why? You were lucky enough to join the after party.

because I worked really hard on my entry, and it received a lower score than others that took less effort
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| September 16, 2011, 8:24 pm
Scraped on by the skin of my teeth! See y'all in round two!
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| September 16, 2011, 8:32 pm
Woohoo i got through with a score of 41.6. Thanks for the kind comments and congrats to all fellow progressors. To those who didn't make it there's always next year ;)
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| September 16, 2011, 11:00 pm
Thanks judges, for the speedy (and favorable) judgment. :-)
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| September 16, 2011, 11:03 pm
Maybe this means something. I need to spend more time practicing with system instead of Bionicle...hmm...

Congrats for making it all who did! :D
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| September 17, 2011, 12:00 am
Quoting Chas Irish
because I worked really hard on my entry, and it received a lower score than others that took less effort

I also noticed that. Some entries with less effort got a higher score than mine, but I think it's because they were more original than mine.
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| September 17, 2011, 4:06 am
I think it would be helpful if a general breakdown of the scoring criteria were available to the contestants, so we could see the sort of things the judges are looking at/looking for. Hopefully it's obvious to everyone that the size of the model and the complexity of the build aren't the only things we're being judged on. There are certain intangibles I'm guessing they're considering, such as creativity, photography, etc. I can't be sure about this, but I think I'm on to something here. Now then, since this is the whinning thread, my head hurts, my feet stink, and I want some coffee. A donut wouldn't hurt, either.
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| September 17, 2011, 7:28 am
Quoting Dennis Price
I think it would be helpful if a general breakdown of the scoring criteria were available to the contestants, so we could see the sort of things the judges are looking at/looking for. Hopefully it's obvious to everyone that the size of the model and the complexity of the build aren't the only things we're being judged on. There are certain intangibles I'm guessing they're considering, such as creativity, photography, etc. I can't be sure about this, but I think I'm on to something here. Now then, since this is the whinning thread, my head hurts, my feet stink, and I want some coffee. A donut wouldn't hurt, either.

Agreed. I want to know WHY I got the score I did, so I can fix it in round 2.
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| September 17, 2011, 7:33 am
Quoting A Monkey .
Agreed. I want to know WHY I got the score I did, so I can fix it in round 2.

Indeed that would be most helpful.
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| September 17, 2011, 7:44 am
Quoting Thoy Bradley
My heartiest congratulations to Stormbringer, Blake Baer and Gabriel Thomson for the respective 1st, 2nd and 3rd placings for Round 1!! Great work!


Thanks again Thoy, it was a bit of shock to read that i'd scored so highly. Congrats yrself - you didn't do too badly either, and you spent far less time on yr entry than i did on mine. :) I'll be happy if i don't have to go head to head with you too soon!

Also congrats to everyone else who made it to round 2 - woohoo and roll on Wednesday!
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| September 17, 2011, 8:21 am
Quoting Dennis Price
I think it would be helpful if a general breakdown of the scoring criteria were available to the contestants, so we could see the sort of things the judges are looking at/looking for. Hopefully it's obvious to everyone that the size of the model and the complexity of the build aren't the only things we're being judged on. There are certain intangibles I'm guessing they're considering, such as creativity, photography, etc. I can't be sure about this, but I think I'm on to something here.

I concur. I've been wondering the system for a while now...
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| September 17, 2011, 8:53 am
Alas, this is my final chapter in the M.O. Farewell to all fellow MOCers as I WILL BE BACK next year!! Good luck to all remaining MOCers and MOCists as I will be sitting on the sidelines. Until next time. David out!!
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| September 17, 2011, 7:57 pm
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Quoting Dennis Price
I think it would be helpful if a general breakdown of the scoring criteria were available to the contestants, so we could see the sort of things the judges are looking at/looking for. Hopefully it's obvious to everyone that the size of the model and the complexity of the build aren't the only things we're being judged on. There are certain intangibles I'm guessing they're considering, such as creativity, photography, etc. I can't be sure about this, but I think I'm on to something here. Now then, since this is the whinning thread, my head hurts, my feet stink, and I want some coffee. A donut wouldn't hurt, either.


Not a bad idea, Dennis. I mean the coffee and donut thing - the judging standards idea, well that's just ridiculous.

Seriously, I personally put a lot more emphasis on things like parts usage, concept, color and value balance, textural effects, and so on, over scale or presentation. They do, however, play their role and a good MOC hits on all cylinders.

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| September 18, 2011, 9:58 am
we need a bragging thread! LOL
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| September 18, 2011, 11:47 am
Being my first MocOlympics, I'm pretty stoked to see what Round 2 has to offer. So many great entries in the first round, and I certainly do not envy the difficult evaluations I'm sure the judges all had to make! I always love seeing the diversity and conceptual themes that contests like these offer. It will only get better from here on out!
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| September 18, 2011, 11:58 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Not a bad idea, Dennis. I mean the coffee and donut thing - the judging standards idea, well that's just ridiculous.

Seriously, I personally put a lot more emphasis on things like parts usage, concept, color and value balance, textural effects, and so on, over scale or presentation. They do, however, play their role and a good MOC hits on all cylinders.

I too think Dennis has a good idea. :)

Having dabbled in the dog/equestrienne show ring and being a retired teacher, I am certainly one for 'viewing the criteria'. :)

I know mocs enter the realm of 'Art' but don't tell any dog/horse person or teacher that there is not an affective side to judging and/or grading. :)

But...even so... I believe you run a fair and well managed/thought out contest! When I saw where it was stated that admins use spreadsheets, I knew some kind of numerial processing was taking place! :) :) :)
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| September 18, 2011, 12:47 pm
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In case anybody is interested, this was/is my judging criterias (in no special order):
- Idea: How much thought was probably given to the topic before building began.
- Style: That includes colours, overall shape and proportions of the MOC (not the size).
- Building techniques: Nice part usage, different angles (out of square), effects
- Presentation: Are there enough close ups and at least on good distant shot, not too many unnecessary shots. The picture quality was less important, this is a LEGO® contest, not a photo contest.
Then I took a look at the homepage and latest creations of every contestant, to see a) if he’s a CFOL, TFOL or AFOL, b) how much effort the contestant had put into the MOC compared to what he usually builds and c) if he owns a lot of bricks or not.
As a result, for example a TFOL with not so many bricks but a high level of creativity and skill got more points from me than, for example, a “half-hearted” AFOL.
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| September 18, 2011, 2:37 pm
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
b) how much effort the contestant had put into the MOC compared to what he usually builds and c) if he owns a lot of bricks or not.
As a result, for example a TFOL with not so many bricks but a high level of creativity and skill got more points from me than, for example, a “half-hearted” AFOL.

c) Well actually I do own a lot of bricks, but most of it I don't find usefull enough or still are in their official LEGO model form on display in my room or are still in the box.
so for example with this M.O. entry I used up almost all of my green and sand-colored bricks while I may have some more somewhere else.
b) well it IS my biggest build so far.

So do more people have this: all-of-my-bricks are-still-in-official-models-that-I-dont-want-to-tare-down-problem?
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| September 18, 2011, 3:03 pm
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
In case anybody is interested, this was/is my judging criterias (in no special order):
- Idea: How much thought was probably given to the topic before building began.
- Style: That includes colours, overall shape and proportions of the MOC (not the size).
- Building techniques: Nice part usage, different angles (out of square), effects
- Presentation: Are there enough close ups and at least on good distant shot, not too many unnecessary shots. The picture quality was less important, this is a LEGO® contest, not a photo contest.
Then I took a look at the homepage and latest creations of every contestant, to see a) if he’s a CFOL, TFOL or AFOL, b) how much effort the contestant had put into the MOC compared to what he usually builds and c) if he owns a lot of bricks or not.
As a result, for example a TFOL with not so many bricks but a high level of creativity and skill got more points from me than, for example, a “half-hearted” AFOL.

What if you don't know what kind of FOL someone is?
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| September 18, 2011, 6:24 pm
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I didn't really pay much attention to how old the builder was. How pertinent was the entire build to the category? Relevant details, complexity, composition, like Mark said, all important. I kind of looked at it like proof reading an essay, which is a little more familiar to most of us. And we needed to wait to do all of the judging AFTER they were all posted, because it wasn't just a qualifying round, we needed a rank order to do the brackets for the next round. But I plan on going back and commenting on all the R1 builds.
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| September 18, 2011, 8:27 pm
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
In case anybody is interested, this was/is my judging criterias (in no special order)... a “half-hearted” AFOL.


Thank you for breaking down your process for us. It will certainly help me in next year's competition to know what the judges were looking at in their evaluations. I really disappointed myself in this submission in that I somehow missed the start of Round One and had to rush my entry in many ways. I'm happier with the results than I thought I would be, but would have been much more satisfied if I had given myself the entire ten days to work on this. *sigh* Next year...:)
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| September 18, 2011, 10:02 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
What if you don't know what kind of FOL someone is?

You've been spending too much time in the smack talk thread.
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| September 18, 2011, 10:06 pm
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
In case anybody is interested, this was/is my judging criterias (in no special order):
- Idea: How much thought was probably given to the topic before building began.
- Style: That includes colours, overall shape and proportions of the MOC (not the size).
- Building techniques: Nice part usage, different angles (out of square), effects
- Presentation: Are there enough close ups and at least on good distant shot, not too many unnecessary shots. The picture quality was less important, this is a LEGO® contest, not a photo contest.
Then I took a look at the homepage and latest creations of every contestant, to see a) if he’s a CFOL, TFOL or AFOL, b) how much effort the contestant had put into the MOC compared to what he usually builds and c) if he owns a lot of bricks or not.
As a result, for example a TFOL with not so many bricks but a high level of creativity and skill got more points from me than, for example, a “half-hearted” AFOL.


Thank you for posting this. This is really helpful and I am sure by looking at all the entries Judging was not an easy chore. I also appreciate you putting yourself out there and letting us know how you judged the entries.

I think in the future it would be helpful if all the judges worked off of the same criteria and requirements for judging. Just like in the real Olympics, all judged events have a specific set of elements that are considered.

To say that an AFOL has more brick then a TFOL or by looking at past builds to determine their collection size is too large of an assumption. I literally have to tear down every MOC before I start a new one or I wouldn't have enough pieces. I am not sure how the collection size effected your judging, so perhaps I am assuming to much. If you look at my M.O. entry I had to use Duplo (still technically Lego) blocks for the trunk because I did not have enough brown pieces. I personally think the planning that goes into a MOC with a small collection is much more involved then if you have a massive amount of bricks.

I also agree with you about photographs, but I would even extend it further to write-ups and lighting. I may be a purist in this regard, but I think for a building based contest the MOC should stand on its own. The MOC should convey the theme and overall feel without needing a write up. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some of the write-ups but don't feel that they should be necessary. As for lighting the same goes. In Leda Kat's much discussed and critiqued entry I feel that the lighting is stunning and beautifully done, but her MOC stands alone without it. It is perfect example of how and why lighting SHOULD be done.

Do I have entries I disagreed with the judges about? Sure, but I have many more that I agreed with them on. I have specific examples but do not feel that this is the place to discuss it and do not want to take away from anyone success.

I am truly looking forward to hearing each judge’s assessment of the entries and think this is above and beyond their duties as judges.


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| September 18, 2011, 10:35 pm
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Quoting Jake .
Im sorry but I cannot build anything for the contest or anything else.


Sorry to hear that, we'll try our best to carry on.
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| September 18, 2011, 10:59 pm
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Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
What if you don't know what kind of FOL someone is?

Then I had to guess.
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| September 19, 2011, 6:25 am
Quoting Rinse Jan
c) Well actually I do own a lot of bricks, but most of it I don't find usefull enough or still are in their official LEGO model form on display in my room or are still in the box.
so for example with this M.O. entry I used up almost all of my green and sand-colored bricks while I may have some more somewhere else.
b) well it IS my biggest build so far.

So do more people have this: all-of-my-bricks are-still-in-official-models-that-I-dont-want-to-tare-down-problem?


I think it's just a matter of you beeing in the KelsoKaleta league or just a 'fisherman'. I had 5 creations so far and had to tear one of them partially down to finish my small entry. Quite a difference, I would say.

Official Models? Built once, taken apart quickly after.
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| September 19, 2011, 9:16 am
Quoting Rinse Jan

So do more people have this: all-of-my-bricks are-still-in-official-models-that-I-dont-want-to-tare-down-problem?

Just for my big things, like an AT-AT I got when I was six and Jabba's sail barge.
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| September 19, 2011, 9:18 am
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Since we're in the sharing mood. I have together still (original sets) The grand carousel, the first hailfire droid (with the big wheels) the first Darth Vader's tie, the first x-wing, the star destroyer, the first AT-AT, the second falcon and a couple of Jedi fighters. I'll probably break those down at some point but for now... meh. The rest is sorted neatly... ok, it's sorted.
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| September 19, 2011, 10:31 am
Quoting Chris Phipson
Since we're in the sharing mood. I have together still (original sets) The grand carousel, the first hailfire droid (with the big wheels) the first Darth Vader's tie, the first x-wing, the star destroyer, the first AT-AT, the second falcon and a couple of Jedi fighters. I'll probably break those down at some point but for now... meh. The rest is sorted neatly... ok, it's sorted.

Jedi star fighters... the bane of my collection. I have four, and they have been virtually useless for my MOCs so far.

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| September 19, 2011, 10:40 am
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Jedi star fighters... the bane of my collection. I have four, and they have been virtually useless for my MOCs so far.


I know right? I got Plo Koon's Starfighter for Xmas and I haven't been in need of it's somewhat simple pieces since. :P
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| September 19, 2011, 12:47 pm
ATTENTION OLYMPIADS:

For those Round 1 participants that did not make the top 64, the MIT begins Sunday. The second 64 players get first priority, but with the potential for no-shows, anyone who received a Round 1 score could be eligible for a spot.

There is a sign-up thread for players 65 through 128 (so we know you want to compete) and a separate thread for players 129 through 154 (potential alternates).

Players have until midnight (MocPages time) on Friday, September 23, to sign up before alternates take their spot.

There are prizes for 1st and 2nd place, so head over and and take your shot!
http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/18342
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| September 19, 2011, 3:03 pm
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
Then I had to guess.


Any clarification on why what type of fan they are has to do with their score or judging in general?

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| September 19, 2011, 8:58 pm
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Quoting Brody Allen

Any clarification on why what type of fan they are has to do with their score or judging in general?

Fan?
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| September 20, 2011, 1:50 am
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
Fan?
I think he's referring to TFOL, AFOL etc :)
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| September 20, 2011, 2:31 am
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
Then I took a look at the homepage and latest creations of every contestant, to see a) if he’s a CFOL, TFOL or AFOL, b) how much effort the contestant had put into the MOC compared to what he usually builds and c) if he owns a lot of bricks or not.
As a result, for example a TFOL with not so many bricks but a high level of creativity and skill got more points from me than, for example, a “half-hearted” AFOL.


Sorry, I was referring to your comment above about seeing if they were a CFOL, AFOL, TFOL etc... Comparing effort of all builds and owning a lot of bricks. I had commented on this point earlier and was hoping if you could help me better understand what you ment.

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| September 20, 2011, 3:56 am
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Quoting Brody Allen

... and was hoping if you could help me better understand what you ment.

Okay, once more (and I really hope I make myself clear this time):
After I went through all the criteria I mentioned before (idea, style, building, presentation), I had a look at each homepage in order to get a better impression of the contestant.
- Age: I think the age influences the building skill to a certain level. A 40 years old AFOL might (!) have several more years of experience than an 8 years old CFOL. Not only in building with LEGO®, but also in visualizing concepts in general. As a result, I haven’t dealt too severely with CFOL, in order to give them a chance to stand against the AFOL.
- Collection size: It is not easy to determine the size of one’s collection after looking at their homepages, therefore this was a rather unimportant criterion. But again, I think it is easier to build impressive stuff when you have tons and tons of bricks, compared to somebody with a small collection. As a result, I haven’t been too harsh to those with a smaller collection (and I’m not talking about a situation where somebody owns 100 bricks more than another one).
- Your other MOCs: By having a quick look at each one’s other MOCs, I tried to find out (under the given circumstances of just 10 days of building time) if his entry matched his regular building quality. Of course there’s always “vis major”, therefore I didn’t pay that much attention to it.
One more word about size, actually 4 more words: It did not matter! I gave several contestants with small vigs (for example) a much higher score than others with large dios, simply because they matched the main criteria above (idea …) much better.
This was a bit more work, but compared to the other judges, I didn’t know many of the contestants (or better: their MOCs) and therefore, in order to be as fair as possible, I decided to put this extra effort into my judging.
And one more thing about the judging process in general: We were 7 judges and although we had no list of strict criteria to work with, I guess all of us had a very similar way of judging.
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| September 20, 2011, 6:47 am
Quoting Mr. Xenomurphy
Okay, once more (and I really hope I make myself clear this time):
After I went through all the criteria I mentioned before (idea, style, building, presentation), I had a look at each homepage in order to get a better impression of the contestant.
- Age: I think the age influences the building skill to a certain level. A 40 years old AFOL might (!) have several more years of experience than an 8 years old CFOL. Not only in building with LEGO�, but also in visualizing concepts in general. As a result, I haven�t dealt too severely with CFOL, in order to give them a chance to stand against the AFOL.
- Collection size: It is not easy to determine the size of one�s collection after looking at their homepages, therefore this was a rather unimportant criterion. But again, I think it is easier to build impressive stuff when you have tons and tons of bricks, compared to somebody with a small collection. As a result, I haven�t been too harsh to those with a smaller collection (and I�m not talking about a situation where somebody owns 100 bricks more than another one).
- Your other MOCs: By having a quick look at each one�s other MOCs, I tried to find out (under the given circumstances of just 10 days of building time) if his entry matched his regular building quality. Of course there�s always �vis major�, therefore I didn�t pay that much attention to it.
One more word about size, actually 4 more words: It did not matter! I gave several contestants with small vigs (for example) a much higher score than others with large dios, simply because they matched the main criteria above (idea �) much better.
This was a bit more work, but compared to the other judges, I didn�t know many of the contestants (or better: their MOCs) and therefore, in order to be as fair as possible, I decided to put this extra effort into my judging.
And one more thing about the judging process in general: We were 7 judges and although we had no list of strict criteria to work with, I guess all of us had a very similar way of judging.


This is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to explain it. It does seem like a lot of the judges new a lot of the contestants from past interaction. Getting to know someone's style in 10 days is hard but the extra effort is appreciated. I agree that with all the judging size didn't matter. It sounds like what I was asking about didn't play a huge role. From your previous post it sounded like it was more heavily weighted, and a lot of it was based on educated guesses.

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| September 20, 2011, 11:24 am
just to be safe I went and bought The Jet-copter and UFO abduction, there was a sale so I got witch Dr. For Freeeee!
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| September 21, 2011, 1:16 pm
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So it's transparency you're all after, is it? Want to know what evil little schemes we judges used to rank your creations? Fine. If it's honesty you want, it's honesty you'll get.

It all starts with a gerbil, and a handful of cheese cubes...

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| September 21, 2011, 4:20 pm
Quoting Matt David

It all starts with a gerbil, and a handful of cheese cubes...

... Then Phipson, of course.
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| September 21, 2011, 4:26 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
... Then Phipson, of course.


Don't forget the Ouija board, blind fold, and darts.

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| September 21, 2011, 4:43 pm
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Quoting Matt David
So it's transparency you're all after, is it? Want to know what evil little schemes we judges used to rank your creations? Fine. If it's honesty you want, it's honesty you'll get.

It all starts with a gerbil, and a handful of cheese cubes...

If you people only knew... Matty, that story had me ROLLING when you first said it.

And for once people, I had NOTHING to do with the gerbil!

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| September 21, 2011, 4:56 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
If you people only knew... Matty, that story had me ROLLING when you first said it.

And for once people, I had NOTHING to do with the gerbil!

The cheese cubes are a whole different story though...
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| September 21, 2011, 5:31 pm
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