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| August 17, 2011, 9:19 am
Will the recent server problems affect the Games at all? Are we at all concerned there might be another crash?
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| August 17, 2011, 10:51 am
I actually don't know the drill. Do we have to wait until a certain date before building? Set build topics?
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| August 17, 2011, 1:33 pm
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Quoting J H
I actually don't know the drill. Do we have to wait until a certain date before building? Set build topics?


http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=18033&topicid=71716
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| August 17, 2011, 1:34 pm
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Quoting Dr. HappyBaboon , PhD
Will the recent server problems affect the Games at all? Are we at all concerned there might be another crash?


There is a concern about that. If we need to postpone the games by a week or so to let Sean get things back in order then so be it. As of right now, it looks like things will be ok.

For the record, we will NOT hold server issues against anyone as far as dates go. Now... if EVERYONE else gets their stuff in on time and you call "server issue" when we KNOW there isn't one... different story. (not directed at you Doc, just putting it out there).

Short answer, we're aware and hopefully won't have any issues.
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| August 17, 2011, 1:38 pm
Are modulex bricks allowed? I use them in my buildings sometimes, it is some kind of real LEGO, so I suppose they wil be. Please tell me...
Greets Jelle
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| August 17, 2011, 3:46 pm
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Quoting Jelle Heijne
Are modulex bricks allowed? I use them in my buildings sometimes, it is some kind of real LEGO, so I suppose they wil be. Please tell me...
Greets Jelle


Yeap, those are fine. They used to be owned by Lego afterall. I would however use it only in a small portion of your build. I'm not a purist myself but I can't speak for the other judges.
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| August 17, 2011, 4:32 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

There is a concern about that. If we need to postpone the games by a week or so to let Sean get things back in order then so be it. As of right now, it looks like things will be ok.

For the record, we will NOT hold server issues against anyone as far as dates go. Now... if EVERYONE else gets their stuff in on time and you call "server issue" when we KNOW there isn't one... different story. (not directed at you Doc, just putting it out there).

Short answer, we're aware and hopefully won't have any issues.

Just to let you know, every now and then I haven't been able to see pics on a creation, if that is any concern.
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| August 17, 2011, 6:38 pm
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Quoting Jag .
Just to let you know, every now and then I haven't been able to see pics on a creation, if that is any concern.


Not really. Right now all we'd need to be worried about is the uploader. If that keeps working fine then we'll be good. If one of the judges can't see a creation then we simply wait a day or two till they can, no problem.

Also, hopefully the pages will be running full speed by the time the end of round one rolls around.

Don't worry, we know we're having issues around here and will make sure that the pages are not the reason for any issues in the games.
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| August 17, 2011, 6:43 pm
Quoting Dave Sterling
Since I didn't play last year, I'm not sure if this was covered. Cracklink IS allowed, correct??? MOCOlympics falls during a time of the year when I do a lot of Bricklink-ing. I don't really want to have to curb that. :-) Basically, no rules on purchases, right?


Blimey Dave, we've seen the pictures, you don't need any more bricks.....

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| August 18, 2011, 3:33 am
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Quoting Dave Sterling
Since I didn't play last year, I'm not sure if this was covered. Cracklink IS allowed, correct??? MOCOlympics falls during a time of the year when I do a lot of Bricklink-ing. I don't really want to have to curb that. :-) Basically, no rules on purchases, right?


Stu's right, not like you need it...

But yeah, BrickLink IS allowed. Heck, I think that rule went out the window after the first (or maybe second) year.

Go nuts my friend!

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| August 18, 2011, 6:46 am
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I noticed Dave has a "season" for Bricklink. It's the geeks version of hunting - instead of a deer, Dave's baggin' bricks. LOL.

Wait...do you need a permit for that? (No...not an official question.)

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| August 18, 2011, 7:52 am
I'm not quite familair with MOColympics, so is it OK if I look at last year's 2010 group to get an idea of how this contest works?

I know it's against one on one (except for the first round), but I just want to double check and try not to make any mistakes when the game starts.
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| August 18, 2011, 9:52 am
Quoting Dave Sterling

But just yesterday I noticed I had no wedge plates in Dark Purple....so I bought 50 left and right. :-)


This scares me not a little....
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| August 18, 2011, 10:18 am
Quoting Stormbringer .
I'm not quite familair with MOColympics, so is it OK if I look at last year's 2010 group to get an idea of how this contest works?

I know it's against one on one (except for the first round), but I just want to double check and try not to make any mistakes when the game starts.


Compared to the oodles of silly questions which will no doubt fill up this thread as the games draw nearer, this is a VERY good idea.

You are to be applauded. Everybody else, look what Stormbringer is doing.
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| August 18, 2011, 10:21 am
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Quoting Mark Kelso
I noticed Dave has a "season" for Bricklink. It's the geeks version of hunting - instead of a deer, Dave's baggin' bricks. LOL.

Wait...do you need a permit for that? (No...not an official question.)

So to continue that thought: Does that mean he goes into deer camp mode, and goes for weeks without bathing or brushing his teeth during this event?
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| August 18, 2011, 10:50 am
Would a chat room be opened this year? Like the Neat Chat one from last year's games.
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| August 18, 2011, 11:16 am
Another question: Am I allowed to add music to my moc during the competition (like a link to a youtube video on my page)?
It's just to give the moc an in-depth feel. If not that's alright.
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| August 18, 2011, 11:51 am
When you say TFOL/YFOL that survives the longest, do you mean TFOL/YFOL together that survives the longest, or for the longest-surviving TFOL and YFOL respectively?
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| August 18, 2011, 2:59 pm
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Quoting Brian Kwon
When you say TFOL/YFOL that survives the longest, do you mean TFOL/YFOL together that survives the longest, or for the longest-surviving TFOL and YFOL respectively?

The prize goes to the person 14 and under who survives the longest. 14 and under includes TFOLs and YFOLs, thus the slash. Technicalities in case of ties, points, hospital long form birth certificates, and all that will be sorted out later, probably in a smoke filled room with really comfy chairs...
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| August 18, 2011, 9:48 pm
Sounds like a grand ol' time is to be had here!
I do have a question though, since BrickCon is coming up within the next couple of months, is it recommended to sign up if I'm gonna be away from the bricks for a few weeks after BrickCon?
I'm not exactly sure how long this "Competition" of sorts, goes on.
A little help maybe?
;-)


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| August 19, 2011, 3:08 am
Quoting Stormbringer .
Another question: Am I allowed to add music to my moc during the competition (like a link to a youtube video on my page)?
It's just to give the moc an in-depth feel. If not that's alright.

I'm not a judge, but I think you can. Judges will just say it's a plus.
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| August 19, 2011, 3:36 am
Quoting Lego Junkie
I do have a question though, since BrickCon is coming up within the next couple of months, is it recommended to sign up if I'm gonna be away from the bricks for a few weeks after BrickCon?
I'm not exactly sure how long this "Competition" of sorts, goes on.


Junkie, I'm not a mod but I can tell you that last year I posted my R1 entry on 15th August, so I guess we got our catagories on 5th August, and entry for the final (R7)on 14th November. If you stay in, that's 4 months mate. As we are starting nearly a month later this year, I suspect the finalists will be duking it out just before Christmas.

I know you like your contests and I can heartily recommend this one. Unlike the Contest network on Flickr, there is certainly no bias towards military/ brickarms/ etc. and it forces you to build outside the box. The level of skill is varied but gets very good towards the sharp end of things. It is an endurance contest too though - 10 day build, 3 days judging (while you sort frantically) and repeat.

Good luck if you jump on board!
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| August 19, 2011, 4:21 am


Oops. Read the label.
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| August 19, 2011, 6:57 am
Quoting Stuart Delahay

I know you like your contests and I can heartily recommend this one. Unlike the Contest network on Flickr, there is certainly no bias towards military/ brickarms/ etc.


I sense that I may have just been dissed.
:P
I'll consider it.
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| August 19, 2011, 12:57 pm
Quoting Dave Sterling

Hardy-f@$king-har. ;-). Yeah, yeah...I know you'd think that in my collection I would have everything needed. But just yesterday I noticed I had no wedge plates in Dark Purple....so I bought 50 left and right. :-)

Anyway, thanks for the answer Chris. Glad to hear this is the unlimited category.


I've been after some rare parts myself, and have been crossing my fingers you or Lee don't get a wild hair and order the same part...otherwise I won't have any left to order! LMAO
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| August 19, 2011, 1:22 pm
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Quoting Magma !
I'm not a judge, but I think you can. Judges will just say it's a plus.

We've discussed the music and links issue, and turns out it's actually a minus. So please, no links, no noise. Just build according to the category, take sharp photos, and follow the rules. Thanks!
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| August 19, 2011, 1:26 pm
<<<< Quoting Stormbringer .
Another question: Am I allowed to add music to my moc during the competition (like a link to a youtube video on my page)?
It's just to give the moc an in-depth feel. If not that's alright.

I wouldn't I think it will take away from the build by acting as a distraction.
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| August 19, 2011, 1:33 pm
Does using a design (such as the one at the bottom of this post: http://test.mocpages.com/moc.php/282346)from before the Olympics for something such as a chair, sofa, or other minor object in one's entry count as using something built before the contest?
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| August 19, 2011, 2:09 pm
<<<< Quoting El Barto !
I wouldn't I think it will take away from the build by acting as a distraction.

Exactly! This is a Lego building competition, not an audio visual presentation. It's great for your personal builds on your own page, but for the MocOlympics, no links, no music. Thanks!
I'd stay away from all that kind of stuff, instead put time into making a good story and the actual build itself.
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| August 19, 2011, 2:14 pm
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Quoting Connor Simpson
Does using a design (such as the one at the bottom of this post: http://test.mocpages.com/moc.php/282346)from before the Olympics for something such as a chair, sofa, or other minor object in one's entry count as using something built before the contest?


Feel free to reuse designs. It'd be nearly impossible to build something without re-using some form of design of something.

It's using the same MOC that we don't want. If you'd like to use the EXACT same design for something like a chair, I'd just highly suggest you use a different color so there's no question.
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| August 19, 2011, 2:23 pm
A couple other questions I just thought of after looking at some of last years entries: Do we have to link this group? Do we have to link our opponent's home page? Is photo editing legal and if so, to what degree (i.e. Can you only clean up backgrounds/alter image brightness, or are other uses allowed?)?
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| August 19, 2011, 2:24 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Feel free to reuse designs. It'd be nearly impossible to build something without re-using some form of design of something.

It's using the same MOC that we don't want. If you'd like to use the EXACT same design for something like a chair, I'd just highly suggest you use a different color so there's no question.


Okay, thanks for the clarification.
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| August 19, 2011, 2:33 pm
Are you guys gonna put up Neat chat on the group homepage again? Please...
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| August 19, 2011, 4:41 pm
Quoting Lego Junkie

I sense that I may have just been dissed.
:P

Not at all mate. I actually plan on entering the Forgotten themes contest you started, time permitting, and really hope you have a go in this. The more the merrier!
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| August 19, 2011, 6:49 pm
Quoting El Barto !
I wouldn't I think it will take away from the build by acting as a distraction.

Exactly! This is a Lego building competition, not an audio visual presentation. It's great for your personal builds on your own page, but for the MocOlympics, no links, no music. Thanks!

Jeez! Alright, I got the message. It was just a question...
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| August 19, 2011, 8:17 pm
So, I've actually thought of one more question, although this one isn't about the rules. How is the MocOlympics logo chosen each year?
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| August 19, 2011, 10:12 pm
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Quoting Connor Simpson
So, I've actually thought of one more question, although this one isn't about the rules. How is the MocOlympics logo chosen each year?

An octopus.
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| August 19, 2011, 10:19 pm
Quoting El Barto !
An octopus.

Or a flamingo. Now that is the question :D
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| August 19, 2011, 10:22 pm
Quoting MR. LEGO
Are you guys gonna put up Neat chat on the group homepage again? Please...

Thank you...
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| August 19, 2011, 10:29 pm
Quoting El Barto !
An octopus.

Yeah, similar to Paul the Octopus.
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| August 20, 2011, 1:51 pm
When does it begin?
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| August 20, 2011, 2:00 pm
Quoting Chas Irish
When does it begin?

September 4th.
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| August 20, 2011, 2:25 pm
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Quoting Medieval Guy
Yeah, similar to Paul the Octopus.

Precisely!
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| August 20, 2011, 3:06 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
We know we're gonna get em so...

Here's where you ask.

How do I post a link to my homepage? I've copied and pasted on several comments in the sign-up thread now but they don't show up. Do you review the comments before they are posted or something?
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| August 20, 2011, 6:43 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
How do I post a link to my homepage? I've copied and pasted on several comments in the sign-up thread now but they don't show up. Do you review the comments before they are posted or something?

Did you say anything with your link?
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| August 20, 2011, 6:51 pm
Quoting Jag .
Did you say anything with your link?

I've tried it with words and without.
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| August 20, 2011, 6:53 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
I've tried it with words and without.

I'm not sure then. GO to your home page, Control C, on the link and then Control V in the right topic. That's all I can do. Sorry!
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| August 20, 2011, 6:57 pm
Could I use something that I had previously posted a W.I.P. for, if it is finished?
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| August 20, 2011, 6:58 pm
Quoting Isaiah Suko
Could I use something that I had previously posted a W.I.P. for, if it is finished?

No, your only allowed totally new builds. Good luck in the games!
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| August 20, 2011, 7:01 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
We know we're gonna get em so...

Here's where you ask.

If I built something, then during the MocOlympics took it apart and rebuilt much differently then entered it would it be legal?
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| August 20, 2011, 9:13 pm
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Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
If I built something, then during the MocOlympics took it apart and rebuilt much differently then entered it would it be legal?

Dude, relax. We understand that people have particular styles, and they may not have a ton of bricks. Therefore, in the spirit of the Games, do your best, and play within the rules. Good luck!
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| August 20, 2011, 9:31 pm
Quoting Medieval Guy
Me, too. They're my second favorite team, after Germany.


I was supporting England, but then they got knocked out, so I was for Holland in the final.

Also, I have another question. I saw the update on the homepage that said that Photoshop is allowed, but keep it minimal. Are there going to be standards for what's too much? For example, would this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/283351 or this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/283350 be considered too much? Also, is more photoshop allowed on the main photo, or should everything be fairly photoshop free?
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| August 21, 2011, 10:08 am
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Quoting Connor Simpson

I was supporting England, but then they got knocked out, so I was for Holland in the final.

Also, I have another question. I saw the update on the homepage that said that Photoshop is allowed, but keep it minimal. Are there going to be standards for what's too much? For example, would this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/283351 or this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/283350 be considered too much? Also, is more photoshop allowed on the main photo, or should everything be fairly photoshop free?


Short answer here:
You may use it to clean up backgrounds or if it's a story type category you may use word bubbles. Other than that you're better off not using it at all.
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| August 21, 2011, 11:06 am
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Quoting cj cutrone9
Well my questions is as follows.

My Grandmother has cancer. We have to visit them about the second round of the competition because of her surgery. If I make it to the second round what happens? Would I get to post my entry when I got back or would I be DQ?


That's really tough man and let me say how sorry I am to hear that. Really, best of luck with everything.

As for the contest, (man this is gonna sound cold) we really can't hold up the entire contest for one player. If you make it to round two I'd say to just do your best (time permitting). If you can't post then your opponent will advance.

There's a number of people that would tell you not to play so that another player could take your place should you make it past round one. Then there's another group that would say to play your hardest and hope you can make it so your opponent doesn't win by default.

It's a choice you have to make. At the very least I'd say still go for round one and see what happens. If you make it to round two then you can ask advice again at that time.

Again, good luck with your grandma. Best wishes to you, her and the entire family.
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| August 21, 2011, 12:45 pm
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Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
How do I post a link to my homepage? I've copied and pasted on several comments in the sign-up thread now but they don't show up. Do you review the comments before they are posted or something?


We figured out what was happening. You're good to go and we have you on the list. Good luck!
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| August 21, 2011, 12:50 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

We figured out what was happening. You're good to go and we have you on the list. Good luck!

Thanks!
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| August 21, 2011, 1:23 pm
What happens if you're 14 when the contest starts but become 15 whilst the contest is happening - can you still win the prize for the TFOL to go the furthest?
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| August 21, 2011, 2:45 pm
Quoting George G.
What happens if you're 14 when the contest starts but become 15 whilst the contest is happening - can you still win the prize for the TFOL to go the furthest?

You can still win the TFOL price. A TFOL is a builder under 18.
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| August 21, 2011, 2:49 pm
Quoting E.K.O .
You can still win the TFOL price. A TFOL is a builder under 18.

Quoting from the rules:

"Yes there WILL be prizes for the winners. Prizes will be awarded to the top 4 players PLUS the TFOL/YFOL (age 14 and under) who survives the longest (unless said T/YFOL is one of the top 4 then the prize goes to the next in line)."
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| August 21, 2011, 2:53 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
We know we're gonna get em so...

Here's where you ask.

Since I'm a TFOL do I need to say so on my homepage to be eligible for the TFOL prize?
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| August 21, 2011, 2:53 pm
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Quoting George G.
Quoting from the rules:

"Yes there WILL be prizes for the winners. Prizes will be awarded to the top 4 players PLUS the TFOL/YFOL (age 14 and under) who survives the longest (unless said T/YFOL is one of the top 4 then the prize goes to the next in line)."


We might actually be changing that...

There's a discussion about it between the judges going on right now.

We'll let you all know the final outcome on that before the games start.
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| August 21, 2011, 2:55 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

We might actually be changing that...

There's a discussion about it between the judges going on right now.

We'll let you all know the final outcome on that before the games start.

Cheers mate!
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| August 21, 2011, 3:07 pm
Is this the question thread? Can I have my salami then?
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| August 21, 2011, 3:08 pm
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds. I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's? I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~
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| August 21, 2011, 5:14 pm
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds. I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's? I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~


Well, a TFOL won the MOColympics in 2008(Sven Junga), so it IS possible. You will be judged by your skills and not by your age.
But I see a little advantage for our 2009 winner Dave Sterling... His WIFE is an admin so she will probably be a judge! Hope I will not face Dave in the games. Just joking, I know judging will be fair in the olympics.

Greets,
Jelle


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| August 21, 2011, 5:26 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

That's really tough man and let me say how sorry I am to hear that. Really, best of luck with everything.

As for the contest, (man this is gonna sound cold) we really can't hold up the entire contest for one player. If you make it to round two I'd say to just do your best (time permitting). If you can't post then your opponent will advance.

There's a number of people that would tell you not to play so that another player could take your place should you make it past round one. Then there's another group that would say to play your hardest and hope you can make it so your opponent doesn't win by default.

It's a choice you have to make. At the very least I'd say still go for round one and see what happens. If you make it to round two then you can ask advice again at that time.

Again, good luck with your grandma. Best wishes to you, her and the entire family.


Maybe it would be possible for you to give him the category for round two early, and if he makes it then he'll have a little extra time to build. If he doesn't, then he'll have built something nice anyway if he wants to post it outside the olympics. Just a suggestion, because I feel pretty bad for him.
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| August 21, 2011, 7:25 pm
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds. I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's? I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~


Good way to start a contest this - question the integrity of the guy running the WHOLE show.

Chris will explain himself if he wants to i'm sure, but I think you should consider going back over whatever you noted to come up with the conclusion that Chris has a low opinion of TFOLs and YFOLs, then actually read it. Notwithstanding Chris (and Mark, and Sean) give over a lot of time and effort to this site, I think you miss the point that this is an inclusive contest, not an exclusive one. Joining is encouraged, and the fact there is a special prize just for the TFOL or YFOL who gets furthest should give you another clue. Where do thoses prizes come from eh?

And yes, Chris is my buddy, which is why this sounds quite defensive.

And also why I shall expect a free pass onto the next round.
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| August 22, 2011, 7:34 am
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds. I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's? I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~

All I can say is that 2 of the actual judges last year donated their prizes from other contests to a children's hospital. Doesn't sound like a low opinion of YFOL and TFOL.
Be sure that everything here is fair.
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| August 22, 2011, 9:57 am
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds. I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's? I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~


I spent most of my summer helping bring up the next generation of Lego builders through a summer school Lego class instead of building for myself. I spend the rest of the year in public service shaping young minds. I also work to integrate Lego into the curriculum of my classroom and give private Lego tutoring sessions to YFOLs in my Lego studio.

I wonder where you have "noticed" that I have a "very low opinion" of TFOLs/YFOLs. Myself and the other judges have certainly "noticed" you questioning our integrity. The long and the short of it is that you have no way of knowing whether we will be fair, but here's a little hint... life is unfair, and sometimes it will be unfair against you. There ARE going to be people in the MocOlympics who feel the decision of the judges is/was unfair. Oh well. If you don't like it, you don't have to compete.

Best of luck in the MocOlympics
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| August 22, 2011, 10:16 am
Quoting Dave Kaleta

I wonder where you have "noticed" that I have a "very low opinion" of TFOLs/YFOLs. Myself and the other judges have certainly "noticed" you questioning our integrity.

Best of luck in the MocOlympics


I did not say you, I just said chris, but what I am trying to point out is that the judges are good buddies with a lot of people competing and they are all AFOL's. I think we need one TFOL on the judging board. I am not questioning your integrity I am just asking what is there to stop you guys from helping only your buddies? sorry if this offends you but I just want to know if there are rules to prevent that kind of thing.
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| August 22, 2011, 11:45 am
Quoting Stuart Delahay

Good way to start a contest this - question the integrity of the guy running the WHOLE show.


I do not mean to question his integrity but I juts want to know what the heck is stopping someone who decides to. I am not saying you will but if someone did. what would be stopping them.

Quoting Stuart Delahay :--: Chris will explain himself if he wants to i'm sure, but I think you should consider going back over whatever you noted to come up with the conclusion that Chris has a low opinion of TFOLs and YFOLs, then actually read it. Notwithstanding Chris (and Mark, and Sean) give over a lot of time and effort to this site, I think you miss the point that this is an inclusive contest, not an exclusive one. Joining is encouraged, and the fact there is a special prize just for the TFOL or YFOL who gets furthest should give you another clue. Where do thoses prizes come from eh?


I just think we need just one TFOL on the panel of judges

Quoting Stuart Delahay :--: And yes, Chris is my buddy, which is why this sounds quite defensive.

And also why I shall expect a free pass onto the next round.



I know that last part was a joke but thats exactly what I mean
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| August 22, 2011, 11:55 am
Nick, Nick, Nick.....why would you question Chris' integrity? You do not know him; you obviously do not know anything about him. He is one of the fairest people I have ever encountered. Your comments are way off base and are frankly insulting. I have judged some of these in the past, I was a judge last year, and we went out of our way to be fair. A TFOL judge is not needed; the current judges are all upstanding, fair, adults. If you donít like the way it is set up, donít play.
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| August 22, 2011, 12:09 pm
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick


I know that last part was a joke but thats exactly what I mean


Nick,

No worries, a governing board of impartial overseers has been appointed by JÝrgen Vig Knudstorp to insure the utmost fairness is carried out.

Best of luck in the MocOlympics
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| August 22, 2011, 12:52 pm
This one is for Chris. Where do you get the prizes from, Like do you just buy them with your own money or do some AFOL's go raid a lego store? :P
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| August 22, 2011, 1:17 pm
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick

I did not say you, I just said chris, but what I am trying to point out is that the judges are good buddies with a lot of people competing and they are all AFOL's. I think we need one TFOL on the judging board. I am not questioning your integrity I am just asking what is there to stop you guys from helping only your buddies? sorry if this offends you but I just want to know if there are rules to prevent that kind of thing.


Actually we all got together last week and decided that you would win first place. Unfortunately you just disqualified yourself, because you must vow to never speak ill of the chosen one.....and then you went and opened your mouth.

In reality you won't win because no one likes Bionicle. LMAO If you're truly that worried about people being unfair, then just don't play. It's not about winning so much as encouraging others and yourself to stretch your limits and attempt to do the impossible. Chances are you won't have the motivation or dedication to build something for round 2.
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| August 22, 2011, 1:18 pm
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick


Nick,

While I can see where you're coming from, I would suggest that you reconsider your feelings and perhaps try to not take it all so seriously. The idea that anyone here will favor any of the competitors is absolutely insane. This is a provincial LEGO contest orchestrated BY fans FOR fans, and with the explicit interest of encouraging people to have fun. From what I know of the judging group, you will not find a more supportive group of adults encouraging the development of young builders.

There is some logic behind your fear, but try to see the bigger picture and you'll realize that there is really nothing to worry about. If there really was an animosity between the judges and YFOL's, do you really think that the judges would actually support a prize for the best YFOL? Do you really think they would acknowledge the fact that YFOL's face disadvantages in this type of contest and put in a system to deal with that disadvantage if they really didn't like you little tykes? C'mon...

Plus, I've already eliminated Stu twice, and I'm contemplating a third just because he puts a 'u' in color.
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| August 22, 2011, 1:23 pm
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Quoting MR. LEGO
This one is for Chris. Where do you get the prizes from, Like do you just buy them with your own money or do some AFOL's go raid a lego store? :P


Why, do you have the secuity camera footage from the Detroit ToysRUs? I mean...uhh...it wasn't me.

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| August 22, 2011, 1:32 pm
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Alright!!! So who's excited to get going with all of this?? I think the people who are getting organized now should have an advantage to some extent later on in the Game. There will certainly be some thought provoking categories, leaving A LOT to your individual interpretation! Who's fired up!?!??!?!?!
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| August 22, 2011, 1:36 pm
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Quoting MR. LEGO
This one is for Chris. Where do you get the prizes from, Like do you just buy them with your own money or do some AFOL's go raid a lego store? :P


The prizes this year are from Dave Kaleta and myself. He's giving the 1st prize and I'm doing the rest.
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| August 22, 2011, 1:45 pm
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Quoting Chris Phipson

The prizes this year are from Dave Kaleta and myself. He's giving the 1st prize and I'm doing the rest.

Big round of applause for Dave and Chris!!!!
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| August 22, 2011, 1:49 pm
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
how do we know that you guys will only let your friends through to the next rounds.


Because we don't do that and if you'd bother to do some digging rather than just tossing out accusations you'd know that.


Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
I have noted that you have a very low opinion of TFOL's and YFOL's?


Really? News to me. Hey Tyler, do I have a low opinion of TFOLs? And let's not forget the COUNTLESS hours of MY time that I pour into this site for FREE! And during that time, guess how much of it is filling requests by TFOLs and YFOLs? Yeah, a LOT of it. I barely have time to comment on my friends builds because I'm so busy doing stuff for the T/YFOLs on here and guess what, I do it with a SMILE on my face!

Oh, did you need just a little more evidence? How bout the fact that I donate the prize for the T/YFOL who makes it the farthest in the contest? Guess what, I do that so that the KIDS (that's you included) don't feel like they never have a shot at winning something, that these contests aren't all slanted towards the AFOLs and to make it PERFECTLY clear that the reason that a LOT of us AFOLs are on here is to help the kids get better!

Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
I know you will say something witty and puch my question aside but inquisitive minds want to know? do not think I think you will but what can stop you from being unfair? ~Nitro~


Nothing could "stop me," jsut like nothing could stop a major league ref from blowing a call on whatever or from government officials stealing money and buying votes. If I WANTED to do that, then I could. But here's the thing that you're missing...

I don't. And guess what, there wouldn't be 142 members of this group if I had a reputation of being a cheat.

Quoting Nick Nitro Brick

I did not say you, I just said chris

Nice. Did you learn that from "How to win friends and influence people"?

Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
, but what I am trying to point out is that the judges are good buddies with a lot of people competing and they are all AFOL's. I think we need one TFOL on the judging board.


I asked a couple of TFOLs to be judges. They said "no thanks." And... do you think for one second that your little rant here is going to make me want to add you to the judges list?

Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
I am not questioning your integrity I am just asking what is there to stop you guys from helping only your buddies? sorry if this offends you but I just want to know if there are rules to prevent that kind of thing.


We don't NEED those rules because we DON'T do that kind of thing. Again, if we did... do you think SO many people would sign up? Don'tcha think word may have spread that we were unfair?

Nick, you've said over and over again here that you don't mean to question my integrity but that's all you've done since you started. Now, if you want to play then good luck to you. If you're just here to try to cause trouble then it may be best that you leave. The rest of the group members are here to have fun, not start drama (before you reply, yes you ARE starting it).

Don't bother replying to any of this. If you stay then we wish you the best of luck if you leave then we know it's because you know you were wrong about accusing me of being dishonest.

Stay = apologizing
leave = Nick was wrong but can't admit it.

Next time, think twice before you accuse me of something like this.
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| August 22, 2011, 2:04 pm
Those judges in the previous mocolympics are my friends as well and they voted against me in the 5th round, all of them and you know what ? they were right because my opponent had a much better creation


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| August 22, 2011, 2:21 pm
Quoting El Barto !
Alright!!! So who's excited to get going with all of this?? I think the people who are getting organized now should have an advantage to some extent later on in the Game. There will certainly be some thought provoking categories, leaving A LOT to your individual interpretation! Who's fired up!?!??!?!?!

I'm ready!! And thought provoking you say? Interesting indeed. Can't wait to start!!
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| August 22, 2011, 2:54 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
Those judges in the previous mocolympics are my friends as well and they voted against me in the 5th round, all of them and you know what ? they were right because my opponent had a much better creation


I only voted against you because I can't pronounce Ceebus, Seeeebius, whatever.

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| August 22, 2011, 3:54 pm
Okayyyy. Besides all the drama I'm already to go! Can't wait for it to start!
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| August 22, 2011, 4:31 pm
Quoting Matt David
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick

There is some logic behind your fear, but try to see the bigger picture and you'll realize that there is really nothing to worry about. If there really was an animosity between the judges and YFOL's, do you really think that the judges would actually support a prize for the best YFOL? Do you really think they would acknowledge the fact that YFOL's face disadvantages in this type of contest and put in a system to deal with that disadvantage if they really didn't like you little tykes? C'mon...

Nick,

I am a YFOL and preferably good for my age. I know that I have a big disadvantage because I am taking on people that are twice my age. Even then i'm still participating to have fun as Chris said and trying to earn the farthest place possible for the TFOL/YFOL prize.
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| August 22, 2011, 4:37 pm
guys, I am not trying to start drama (even though you say I am) I want to know the answer to a simple question "are the judges bound by and rules at all" I apologize to anybody who took offence by my statement but if you guys think I am starting drama then you guys need to look at yourself. I ask a simple question and I get about seven replies. and heath Flor was just being down right insulting. I will accept any DQing you guys dish out with no questions asked but I hope this does not affect my standing with you guys. I build L lot of system but my recent creations are bionicle. And you can keep your opinions to yourself Heath. you guys are overreacting and I will stop. but your guys are blowing this way out of preportion. ~Nitro~
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| August 22, 2011, 4:45 pm
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Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
guys, I am not trying to start drama (even though you say I am) I want to know the answer to a simple question "are the judges bound by and rules at all" I apologize to anybody who took offence by my statement but if you guys think I am starting drama then you guys need to look at yourself. I ask a simple question and I get about seven replies. and heath Flor was just being down right insulting. I will accept any DQing you guys dish out with no questions asked but I hope this does not affect my standing with you guys. I build A lot of system but my recent creations are bionicle. And you can keep your opinions to yourself Heath. you guys are overreacting and I will stop. but your guys are blowing this way out of preportion. ~Nitro~


In short,then, to answer your question: no. It's not like we have a plaque up in the judges' lounge that says "Thou shalt not favor thy friends." We simply don't because we're decent human beings. Satisfied? Good. Moving on...
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| August 22, 2011, 4:52 pm
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Quoting Matt David

In short,then, to answer your question: no. It's not like we have a plaque up in the judges' lounge that says "Thou shalt not favor thy friends." We simply don't because we're decent human beings. Satisfied? Good. Moving on...

As a dentist, I'm against plaque. It leads to tooth decay and gingivitis.
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| August 22, 2011, 4:56 pm
Quoting Nick Nitro Brick
guys, I am not trying to start drama (even though you say I am) I want to know the answer to a simple question "are the judges bound by and rules at all" I apologize to anybody who took offence by my statement but if you guys think I am starting drama then you guys need to look at yourself. I ask a simple question and I get about seven replies. and heath Flor was just being down right insulting. I will accept any DQing you guys dish out with no questions asked but I hope this does not affect my standing with you guys. I build L lot of system but my recent creations are bionicle. And you can keep your opinions to yourself Heath. you guys are overreacting and I will stop. but your guys are blowing this way out of preportion. ~Nitro~


Nothing insulting about it. I truly don't believe you have the fortitude to build an entry for round 2. It's been my experience that folks who whine before the game even begins usually drop out during the second round without ever saying a word.

Go ahead and prove me wrong. I dare you.
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| August 22, 2011, 5:00 pm
Last year, a YFOL (Now a TFOL) named Michael Sloper actually won against the famous builder Shannon Ocean.
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| August 23, 2011, 9:16 am
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