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| March 22, 2009, 1:11 am
No.

It really depends on the government you're talking about, though. There's a lot of them, you know.

But believe me, if any of the world's governing bodies had a trump card, they'd play it right now to boost them out of the depression before they get stuck.
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| March 22, 2009, 3:05 am
Not to be racist or anything, but I blam them bloody Heads of State in the "Oh so Great. =D" Land Of America.
If Those Politicians had of had their heads screwed on, and not so much in love with money (that goes for them Banks too) we wouldn't have this problem.
It is Exactly Like the saying.

"The Rich get richer, and the Poor get poorer"

Don't believe me? Watch the news more often, and watch as much as you can.
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| March 22, 2009, 7:15 am
Quoting Areetsa C
No.

It really depends on the government you're talking about, though. There's a lot of them, you know.

But believe me, if any of the world's governing bodies had a trump card, they'd play it right now to boost them out of the depression before they get stuck.

You guys should check out the latest developments in Ufology and Area 51. Recently. the History Channel's UFO Hunters have taken the closest pictures of the base ever, and it is HUGE. There's an especially large hangar out there that's...suspiciously large. Like, possibly having to do with the Phoenix lights, suspiciously large.
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| March 22, 2009, 1:37 pm
Quoting Tim Cliffe
You guys should check out the latest developments in Ufology and Area 51. Recently. the History Channel's UFO Hunters have taken the closest pictures of the base ever, and it is HUGE. There's an especially large hangar out there that's...suspiciously large. Like, possibly having to do with the Phoenix lights, suspiciously large.

On my trip to the grand canyon we drove by it and we could see scouts all over.
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| March 22, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke
Not to be racist or anything, but I blam them bloody Heads of State in the "Oh so Great. =D" Land Of America.
If Those Politicians had of had their heads screwed on, and not so much in love with money (that goes for them Banks too) we wouldn't have this problem.
It is Exactly Like the saying.

"The Rich get richer, and the Poor get poorer"

Don't believe me? Watch the news more often, and watch as much as you can.

Thats true,watch it every day.
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| March 22, 2009, 5:33 pm
Quoting Commander Ender
Well I have to say Area 51 probably doesn't have alien stuff but stuff that shouldn't be showed to the public, like weapons. If they were smart they would start building a giant transport so when the earth gets to polluted we can all go to mars. :)

Sounds like a good idea to me too. Some people actually think we're working with aliens and their technology at Area 51.
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| March 22, 2009, 7:15 pm
Quoting Commander Ender
Well I have to say Area 51 probably doesn't have alien stuff but stuff that shouldn't be showed to the public, like weapons. If they were smart they would start building a giant transport so when the earth gets to polluted we can all go to mars. :)

Mars would be fun,but the government would probably go for something cheap and corny like shooting the trash into space.
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| March 22, 2009, 7:59 pm
Quoting CEO Wraith
I believe that anything is possible, Sci-fi is an interesting subject because there are a few cases of something being pulled out of thin air for a show and inspiring someone to make it a reality. All we need is time.

On yahoo there was a gundam that looked real.R8-7X.Go to yahoo and type(real gundam).
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| March 22, 2009, 8:51 pm
It's called photoshop. A suitably intelligent troll can put anything anywhere with it.

Area 51 is totally fake, at least now.
If anything strange WAS going on there, it would have been relocated elsewhere the moment the public discovered the base's existence.

Besides, aliens and UFO's are fake to begin with: people see all sorts of things late at night. People also like attention in large quantities; what better way to get it than to pretend one was abducted and tortured by aliens?
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| March 22, 2009, 10:34 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
people see all sorts of things late at night.

Peopl also see all sorts of things when they have had a few too many drinks...
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| March 22, 2009, 10:37 pm
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke
Not to be racist or anything, but I blam them bloody Heads of State in the "Oh so Great. =D" Land Of America.
If Those Politicians had of had their heads screwed on, and not so much in love with money (that goes for them Banks too) we wouldn't have this problem.
It is Exactly Like the saying.

"The Rich get richer, and the Poor get poorer"

Don't believe me? Watch the news more often, and watch as much as you can.

The rich get richer; the poor get poorer; the middle class disappears. Especially with Bam-Bam around (I think you can get what I mean).
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| March 22, 2009, 10:39 pm
Yeah, they relocated them to Tinker Air Force Base. You can see them at night man! Their HUGE!
Nah, that's just a B2 coming in for maintenance. Never mind.
Besides, don't look at the government. Look at NASA. Back when the shuttles first began launching, people thought they were sci fi. Now look at us. We want UFOs and crud... just stick with what we got! That's our problem. We want new, new, new, and it costs money money money...
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| March 22, 2009, 10:50 pm
Area 51 is NOT fake, What people say goes on inside it is FAKE, but Area 51 itself is not fake.
It is an aircraft test area, and also the emergency landing strip for the shuttle.
It does Exist, but "Aliens being Held there" is not true.
"AREA-51 is a designated Military base for the purposeful testing on Weapons and Modern Aircraft".....Quote by George Bush and the Head of the US military's senior advisory board.


Hey, We can safely say that:
If Humans and Politicians Evolded, then Aliens Must have, and we can all hope they have killed all of their politicians.....Unless you guys believe in god.

But Who in their right mind would make ONE planet with Life on it...huh? tell me that. WE EVOLVED, and that Is where I stand.
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| March 22, 2009, 10:52 pm
Quoting Commander Ender
And how to you know this? lol

You don't want to know, my friend... [Gee that was a crazy night...]
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| March 22, 2009, 10:53 pm
I say the goverment has the tenchnology to make some si fi technology. The only problem is there are so many more things to worry about in the country. The goverment has actually invented gets that have enough thrust to hover vertically up. NASA could probably colonize on the moon (which they keep saying will happend in a ten year period) but there are other things to spend money on. Even if we did colonize on a distant body we would have to worry about astroids. The moon dosn't have an atmosphere so the astroids wouldn't burn up.
As for the are 51 issue. It is just a goverment test sight used to test new weapons and new technology.
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| March 23, 2009, 6:54 am
I rather doubt the whole area 51 kinda thing: Heres the cache!
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Everybody assumes that all the aliens are super clever and have guns and ship ships and stuff....and we martians, uh, I mean HUMANS, are the underdogs compared to them; what if we were the clever ones?! Theres probably some stoneage aliens a few lightyears away who have just invented the 'wheel'
Thats my theory! :)
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| March 23, 2009, 8:02 am
I just love the idea that people still believe that ANY government can actually keep a secret for more than 27 seconds, especially in a country with a tabloid or politically partisan media.

One of the biggest gripes from Rolls Royce Aero Engines, and Airbus International, is that Boeing and General Electric both have their RnD subsidised by the US government through NASA. If there was such a thing as recovered, reverse engineered alien technology, don't you think for one second there'd be a huge big Boeing patent on it by now and you'd all be flying trans-oceanic routes in 30 seconds in zero-emmission aircraft for the price of a Whopper and fries, instead of relying on 75 year old technology that has a tendancy to blow up when it hits a runway?
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| March 23, 2009, 12:02 pm
Um ^^^^^ It all comes back to money.....OIL is good, going out of fashion, and people are paying high prices for it over here, which means more money for oil sharers and lots more money for our suppliers....The US 0f A.I severely dislike The US government and Oil Stockers.

All in all, when It comes to stuff being invented they say "We are working on new forms of engines, new motors and Zero-Emissions cars"
When he have had all of those for the past 20 years, we can even ignite water....But all the government and Oil stockers such as BHP and BP want is MONEY
>MONEY, you know those plastic pieces of paper that buy you stuff? and the little round gold and silver coloured things that do the same?
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| March 23, 2009, 4:34 pm
Quoting Cupid Love
The goverment has actually invented gets that have enough thrust to hover vertically up.and new technology.


They've had those for quite some time. The trouble is, they suck fuel down like it's going out of fashion, which, in a sense, it is.
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| March 23, 2009, 10:05 pm
PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE!What a lot of people dont know that the top secret is under the ground.Why would they put top secret in broad daylight so everyone can see whatever they recovered somwhere in the desert?!
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| March 23, 2009, 10:17 pm
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke
Um ^^^^^ It all comes back to money.....OIL is good, going out of fashion, and people are paying high prices for it over here, which means more money for oil sharers and lots more money for our suppliers....The US 0f A.I severely dislike The US government and Oil Stockers.

All in all, when It comes to stuff being invented they say "We are working on new forms of engines, new motors and Zero-Emissions cars"
When he have had all of those for the past 20 years, we can even ignite water....But all the government and Oil stockers such as BHP and BP want is MONEY
>MONEY, you know those plastic pieces of paper that buy you stuff? and the little round gold and silver coloured things that do the same?

I hate polititions,they dont know what goes on in war.Blood for oil!All the money America used to have to throw around and we pay with our lives.Tell me , what is the world coming to?
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| March 23, 2009, 10:28 pm
Quoting Vega gomez
PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE!What a lot of people dont know that the top secret is under the ground.Why would they put top secret in broad daylight so everyone can see whatever they recovered somwhere in the desert?!



That's the Idea, If it is in broad daylight then it is totally inconspicuous...and if it were buried and people saw stuff going down, then that would be suspicious.
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| March 24, 2009, 1:05 am
Let us just consider this -- the F 117 and the Stealth bomber were designed using slide rules in the 1940's.

The F 22 Raptor was designed on second gen computers back in the 1960's.

This is 2009.
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| March 24, 2009, 7:53 am
And it will be forty years before anything designed now manages to get through the beerocracy.
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| March 24, 2009, 5:23 pm
Quoting Elite Marine Kelly (BK)
I rather doubt the whole area 51 kinda thing: Heres the cache!
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Everybody assumes that all the aliens are super clever and have guns and ship ships and stuff....and we martians, uh, I mean HUMANS, are the underdogs compared to them; what if we were the clever ones?! Theres probably some stoneage aliens a few lightyears away who have just invented the 'wheel'
Thats my theory! :)


Yeah, that's what I feel. How come we can't invade a planet and blow up it's capital, like in independence day? (movies, not real life)

Oh, and Nasa says we'll be on Mars by 2053. Mark your calendars, if you buy them that far in advance.

Seriously, we should be doing something more productive than thinking about aliens. We should be searching for Atlantis or finding Chthulhu, or however you spell it.
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| March 25, 2009, 9:46 pm
Uhh, this conversation has become a disaster. Aliens, area 51...meh... I just wanted to let you know that they have found singal cell organisms from other planets in the artic, mostly in huge crators where meteors crashed. There is a theory all creatures start from singal cell organisms found floating around on astroids and such... It depends on enviormental factors how they evolve..... I say that there are creatures more advanced than us some where...(like my house!) and there are creatures less advanced than us somewhere... meh...
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| March 26, 2009, 7:27 am
Quoting karta deraji

Yeah, that's what I feel. How come we can't invade a planet and blow up it's capital, like in independence day? (movies, not real life)

Oh, and Nasa says we'll be on Mars by 2053. Mark your calendars, if you buy them that far in advance.

Seriously, we should be doing something more productive than thinking about aliens. We should be searching for Atlantis or finding Chthulhu, or however you spell it.

Yeah, that is what we should be doing, but space is too much fun to just give up on. For Pete's sake, this is the space group!
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| March 26, 2009, 8:19 am
Quoting Cupid Love
Uhh, this conversation has become a disaster. Aliens, area 51...meh... I just wanted to let you know that they have found singal cell organisms from other planets in the artic, mostly in huge crators where meteors crashed. There is a theory all creatures start from singal cell organisms found floating around on astroids and such... It depends on enviormental factors how they evolve..... I say that there are creatures more advanced than us some where...(like my house!) and there are creatures less advanced than us somewhere... meh...

People got off topic and I did to.Anyway,there is aliens outthere somewhere.Im not talkin' about little green men,I mean organisms.
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| March 26, 2009, 5:52 pm
Microbes are everywhere.
Almost nothing is free of them.
ALIEN microbes? Scientists found bacteria on an antarctic meteorite; so what? Chances are, they put them there themselves by accident.

Oh, and the theory of evolution is just about unfounded, while I'm on the subject of microbes.
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| March 26, 2009, 11:51 pm
MEH! Off Topic Again... you ignored my last attempt. Any way, about colonizing on other planets. Nasa yhopes to colonize on the moon by 2020, but that most likely will not happened seeing they said we'd be living on the moon in 2000! About mars... 2053, the problem is that it takes 6, or 9, forget precisley, months to get there. By that time your body is accustom to no gravity so when you step foot on it you'll experience a feeling of sea sickness due to the gravity.
This is a problem with manned missions to mars, it will take about 5 months for the astronauts to heal and actually start the mission.
Now the Hyper space theory. It is impossible to accelerate to the speed of light as einstein explained some years back. We would have to make a warmhole. The problem is to do it we would have to have lazers hot enough to burn a hole in time and space.
Anti Gravity. No, the only way we know how to litterly hover objects is with thrust... fuel guzzlers.
Nasa probably could find some way to do all this, but there is so much other issues...
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| March 28, 2009, 8:23 am
^^^^^Uh no, I believe what Has been proven since Einstein is that we cannot Travel at the speed of light, We can go faster, or slower, but you must take relativity into account, If we were to travel at the speed of light we would rip apart the universe, potentially "erasing" planets, stars and whole galaxies.
But traveling faster than the speed of light is no problem, as we can send Electrical signals through Ionized air at 4 times the speed of light now.
And we still don't know it wormholes exist, we know of Black holes and White holes, but still nothing on wormhole theory.
"Fujikawa Shaw Slip-space" drives are close to reality, as they tear open space, and allow us to pass right through objects, where as with "WARP" speed in Star Trek you are traveling MANY times the speed of light, and you have to make course corrections minutes in advance, as you are traveling so fast, the computer has to catch up.

Oh and when you're in space, you don't need "Hovering" abilities, as space does it for you.....It's a shame though that when in Orbit you are Forever falling, but you don't feel it.....Stupid lack of gravity
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| March 28, 2009, 6:27 pm
It's impossible to go FASTER than the speed of light, I think it was.

Actually, a suitably powerful electromagnet COULD allow limited antigravity.

It's a pity we don't live in a stainless steel world as predicted then, isn't it?
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| March 28, 2009, 11:55 pm
Impossible to go the speed of light? There isn't a law against it. It's only "impossible" because no one has found a break through, YET.

Seriously; if Einstein disproved the theory of gravity, than can't we disprove the theory of faster-than-light space travel?

Maybe the answer lies in a black hole somewhere...
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| March 29, 2009, 12:02 am
You go find it.

I've still got all my fingers and I'd like it to stay that way.
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| March 29, 2009, 12:13 am
Quoting karta deraji
Impossible to go the speed of light? There isn't a law against it. It's only "impossible" because no one has found a break through, YET.

Seriously; if Einstein disproved the theory of gravity, than can't we disprove the theory of faster-than-light space travel?

Maybe the answer lies in a black hole somewhere...


In Einstein's theory of relativity he said that to get to the speed of light it would take an infinite amount of energy, the more you accelerate, the more fuel you must use, or more power. Another thing is if you went in lightspeed for 5 years, you wouldn't age because lightspeed almost warps time. For you it would feel like 5 minutes, but for someone else... 5 years.(or somehting like that, can't remember precisley) In fact, the GPS clocks get a few minutes off each year because the satelites are going so fast.
Light speed isn't impossible, I should have stated what I said differently, it just takes an infinite amount of energy. There is one method of acceleration being talked about in NASA right now, but where centuries, if not melleniums off.
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| March 29, 2009, 7:22 am
Seriously, how does an innocent MOC sharing group turn into a massive heated debate over the validity of time-space theories, light speed, and government secrets? Is it or is it not time we end this and get back to blowing stuff up with spaceships?
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| March 29, 2009, 2:31 pm
Quoting karta deraji
Nah, that's just a B2 coming in for maintenance. Never mind.


Wow, you have B2's around? Sweet!

Anyway, the conspiracy around Area 51 is totally fake. People have been thinking that there are martians out there since 1942 ("Roswell UFO Crash") or even earlier, but look at the stuff really coming out of there. The closest things to the "reports" yet are the B2 and F117. The Alien theory has mainly been turned into a tourist attraction and something for Hollywood to hype. If Area 51 had Aliens and their tech, we would probably have pulse laser guns, not bullets.

About light speed travel: It is possible, but you need infinite power. Plus, the funny thing is that very few people realize how slow light-speed is compared to the size of the galaxy. Even the Millennium Falcon, which can go 1.5 times the speed of light, would take a few million years to get around the galaxy. The most realistic way of getting around would be either my way "Anti-physics Shield" or Slip-space from Halo.
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| March 29, 2009, 7:18 pm
Quoting Tim Cliffe
Seriously, how does an innocent MOC sharing group turn into a massive heated debate over the validity of time-space theories, light speed, and government secrets? Is it or is it not time we end this and get back to blowing stuff up with spaceships?


Would you rather another month of inactivity?

I'd rather a vitriol laden slugfest than nothing.
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| March 30, 2009, 12:00 am
Quoting Vega gomez
Do you think the government has technology to make science fiction possible?

This is a very, very late answer, but science fiction is just stuff that hasn't been developed yet. In all the old classic SF novels you'll find plenty of examples of "fantastic" inventions that we now take for granted. A few examples are; television, air flight, submarines, and going to the moon. One prime example is the internet, described in an obscure novel whose title escapes me at the moment, but the characters were sitting around listening to a "telephonic broadcast" of a symphony.
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| December 29, 2009, 11:17 pm
I'm probably the last to find out, but here goes. I was scanning for science fiction weapons when I came across a site, news.bbc.co.uk that informs us our government now has a heat ray weapon! Quote, "Called the Active Denial system, it projects an invisible high energy beam that prodces a sudden burning feeling." Unquote. They claim it causes no lasting harm, bu it raises your body temperature to 50C. There's a photo of this gizmo mounted on a Humvee, also. If my brain is working correctly, that's 122 degrees F. Tolerable, I guess, if you're used to it. Anyway, wanna bet this thing WON'T be used against demonstrations?
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| December 31, 2009, 1:31 pm
Don't count on any government developing anything useful unless its use is to hurt/kill/enslave people. some things originally meant for harm can be turned to peaceful and profitable purpose by commercial companies. Also, some things originally meant to improve the human condition can be twisted to evil ends. The internet was an example of the former-it was originally meant for nuclear war. Microwaves are the other. originally intended to cook food, they are now being adapted for cooking people.
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| April 20, 2010, 10:27 pm
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke
Watch the news more often, and watch as much as you can.

The news can be quite depressing. Maybe that's because I live in California though. It seems that all I ever hear on the news is how bad our economy is, and who got shot today. I'll watch it every once in a while, but too much of it makes me sad.
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| April 25, 2010, 2:01 am
i am not one to believe in hi tech aliens invading the earth if there are aliens out there they are either small minimal threat bacteria or a kinda smart(not even close to human intelligence)life-forms that have taken twice the amount of time to make the wheel but i am not saying that we should stop making movies about aliens invading the earth and for the whole area 51 hiding alien tech that is just a bunch of crap there mite be intelligent life out the but i servilely doubt that it would be a thereat.and if they did invade the earth what would they have to gain?sorry if i offended anybody but i am just giving my opinion.
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| June 16, 2010, 4:22 pm
Quoting Christian Collins


OR they're a heckuvalot cleverer than us, and their missiles are already on their way. Now, to wait a few thousand years for them to arrive...
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| July 11, 2010, 6:30 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
i am not one to believe in hi tech aliens invading the earth if there are aliens out there they are either small minimal threat bacteria or a kinda smart(not even close to human intelligence)life-forms that have taken twice the amount of time to make the wheel but i am not saying that we should stop making movies about aliens invading the earth and for the whole area 51 hiding alien tech that is just a bunch of crap there mite be intelligent life out the but i servilely doubt that it would be a thereat.and if they did invade the earth what would they have to gain?sorry if i offended anybody but i am just giving my opinion.

I gotta wonder..you christian?

ANYWAY...Humans are only a few million years old, only 10000 years ago were we a mostly hunter gatherer species, and 65 million before that were the dinosaurs.
For all we know There are alien races dation from only a few million years after the big bang, the earth itself is like...only 4 1/2 billion years old.
Only really formed because the Sun formed about 1 - 1 1/2 billion years before, it's gravity pulling the stuff in to make the earth, and our sun by far is NOT the oldest, we are getting readings from suns almost 200x older than ours.

I believe there are more technologically advanced aliens out there...if you believe there are none, then that's lack of imagination on your part...or arrogance.
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| July 12, 2010, 3:17 am
We can propel things up to 4 times the speed of light, such as ATOMS..but the Human body cannot, would you like to be as dense as the universe? I sure wouldn't.
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| July 12, 2010, 3:19 am
Quoting robert ball
I'm probably the last to find out, but here goes. I was scanning for science fiction weapons when I came across a site, news.bbc.co.uk that informs us our government now has a heat ray weapon! Quote, "Called the Active Denial system, it projects an invisible high energy beam that prodces a sudden burning feeling." Unquote. They claim it causes no lasting harm, bu it raises your body temperature to 50C. There's a photo of this gizmo mounted on a Humvee, also. If my brain is working correctly, that's 122 degrees F. Tolerable, I guess, if you're used to it. Anyway, wanna bet this thing WON'T be used against demonstrations?


It's called MICROWAVE radiation...stick your hand in an electric microwave and you'll do the same thing as that gun does.
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| July 12, 2010, 3:25 am
Quoting Aree't'sa C
Quoting Christian Collins


OR they're a heckuvalot cleverer than us, and their missiles are already on their way. Now, to wait a few thousand years for them to arrive...


Ok i figured I'd get a reply about this but it is possible that there are highly advanced life out there but the reel question about this is if they did blow the Earth into nothing what would they have to gain?

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| July 12, 2010, 2:30 pm
A big parking lot?
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| August 10, 2010, 9:47 am
Quoting Christian Collins

Ok i figured I'd get a reply about this but it is possible that there are highly advanced life out there but the reel question about this is if they did blow the Earth into nothing what would they have to gain?


What would they have to lose?

See this page for more: http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3aa.html#killingstar
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| August 10, 2010, 8:42 pm
Quoting El Barto !
A big parking lot?

LOL!
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| August 10, 2010, 8:47 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C

What would they have to lose?

See this page for more: http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3aa.html#killingstar

Oy, Lets get this over with, you believe what you want to believe and i will believe what i want to believe. OK?
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| August 10, 2010, 8:53 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
Oy, Lets get this over with, you believe what you want to believe and i will believe what i want to believe. OK?


If you ask questions, you generally get answers. That's typically how it works.

Now, if you don't like the answers, you shouldn't ask questions.
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| August 10, 2010, 8:58 pm
Guys, neccessity being the mother of all inventions, I am afraid that while I am certain travelling into space is certainly in our future, I can't see it happening in the next few hundred years except on a token scale.

If I may take you all back to World War One, the English developed the first true battleship called a Dreadnought. These babies were the original beast, and revolutionised sea warfare to become the battleship standard. Why? They needed to face of against the Germans, and it was there only chance at maintaining the naval dominance they had enjoyed for two centuries.

BUT:

Each of these Dreadnoughts, cost GB 5 percent of GDP. The entire Empire was able to produce about 8 of these per calender year. Now imagine what it would take in today's environment to try and build a BSG style battlestar or babylon five station, even if we did have the technology to use wormholes, overcome the complexities of weightlessness, inertia, gravity problems, sustaining life in space, sufficient power generation, the list goes on and on. The earth would struggle to build even one battlestar.

Sorry to be a downer guys, but we are going to have to just settle for reading sci-fi alot longer than
anyone might think.

The only reason we got to the moon was because two superpowers had a competition.
We haven't even landed on Mars yet!
But here's hoping, and let's keep the dream alive!
-P , cheers....

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| August 10, 2010, 9:08 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C

If you ask questions, you generally get answers. That's typically how it works.

Now, if you don't like the answers, you shouldn't ask questions.

LOOK this is a Topic that asked the question and i gave my opinion i like your opinion but I'm not looking for a fight and there are plenty of people in this topic to pic a fight with so GET OVER MY OPINION AND GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!!! I have better things to do that argue with a guy i don't even know.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:13 pm
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke
I gotta wonder..you christian?

ANYWAY...Humans are only a few million years old, only 10000 years ago were we a mostly hunter gatherer species, and 65 million before that were the dinosaurs.
For all we know There are alien races dation from only a few million years after the big bang, the earth itself is like...only 4 1/2 billion years old.
Only really formed because the Sun formed about 1 - 1 1/2 billion years before, it's gravity pulling the stuff in to make the earth, and our sun by far is NOT the oldest, we are getting readings from suns almost 200x older than ours.

I believe there are more technologically advanced aliens out there...if you believe there are none, then that's lack of imagination on your part...or arrogance.

I do believe in aliens i will believe in what i want to, i respect you as a builder you have a opinion and i do to.And YES I am a Christian I LOVE the ONE TRUE GOD!, SO i will leave you alone if you leave me alone.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:26 pm
Quoting Parrington Levens
But here's hoping, and let's keep the dream alive!
Yes. Hopefully we can turn dreaming into doing.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:28 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
LOOK this is a Topic that asked the question and i gave my opinion i like your opinion but I'm not looking for a fight and there are plenty of people in this topic to pic a fight with so GET OVER MY OPINION AND GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!!! I have better things to do that argue with a guy i don't even know.


I'm not even going to try to understand that.

It reads like it's been translated from Russian to Chinese, Chinese to Arabic and from Arabic to some corrupted version of English.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:28 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C

I'm not even going to try to understand that.

It reads like it's been translated from Russian to Chinese, Chinese to Arabic and from Arabic to some corrupted version of English.

It's called reality, learn it.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:32 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
It's called reality, learn it.


It's called English, and learning it would make you sound a lot less like a brain damaged possum.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:34 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C

It's called English, and learning it would make you sound a lot less like a brain damaged possum.

And if you learned it You would sound a whole lot less like a bleedy hart liberal.
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| August 10, 2010, 9:44 pm
Quoting Christian Collins
And if you learned it You would sound a whole lot less like a bleedy hart liberal.


If anyone's the liberal here, it'd be you.


Okay, I'm not even going to bother with this.

Arguing with chatbots is just a waste of time.
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| August 10, 2010, 10:05 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C
Arguing with chatbots is just a waste of time.

I agree.
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| August 10, 2010, 10:14 pm
Quoting Parrington Levens
Now imagine what it would take in today's environment to try and build a BSG style battlestar or babylon five station, even if we did have the technology to use wormholes, overcome the complexities of weightlessness, inertia, gravity problems, sustaining life in space, sufficient power generation, the list goes on and on. The earth would struggle to build even one battlestar.


A Battlestar would be awesome! But you're right, maybe we'd be able to scrounge up enough resources to build one, minus the FTL. Of course something might motivate us to build such a thing, like crazed self-aware homicidal robots! However, if our government's weren't so focused on the least common denominators of society, maybe we'd have a chance at this whole space thing. I don't care how advanced civilization becomes in the future, there are still going to be people running around naked chasing animals with rocks and eating whatever they find growing between their toes. Sorry, we can't fix that. So let's build a fraking Battlestar already!
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| August 10, 2010, 10:28 pm
Ever since WWII, with Germany, every would-be super power has had a secret area to serve as both think tank, development and construction area, and then test area for off-the-wall weapons and vehicles and aircraft. These places are where the wierd and bizarre ideas of eggheads who do not do well in society are allowed to be nurtured and turned into real stuff. Area 51 is the United States' secret test bed. And they can not move it because they need the big wide open space. It does not matter that everyone knows about it, just so long as they do not get into the place. The USSR had its own facilities back in the day, and China has its own facilities.
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| August 12, 2010, 2:13 am
Quoting El Barto !
A Battlestar would be awesome! But you're right, maybe we'd be able to scrounge up enough resources to build one, minus the FTL. Of course something might motivate us to build such a thing, like crazed self-aware homicidal robots! However, if our government's weren't so focused on the least common denominators of society, maybe we'd have a chance at this whole space thing. I don't care how advanced civilization becomes in the future, there are still going to be people running around naked chasing animals with rocks and eating whatever they find growing between their toes. Sorry, we can't fix that. So let's build a fraking Battlestar already!

So true about the lowest denominators! It's like the masses exist to drag humanity down. Look at the ancient Greeks, they wer about 2.5 million in total, but did so many things. No useless mouths to feed! We have gone from 3billion to 7 billion in one generation on this planet, and in that time have not even returned to the moon! I think we are staring down the barrel of a world of 30 billion moorons in another 30 years. We reward TV stars, and call scientists geeks, hmmm, gee, I wonder why it's all going awry...
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| August 12, 2010, 2:45 am
Quoting Parrington Levens
So true about the lowest denominators! It's like the masses exist to drag humanity down. Look at the ancient Greeks, they wer about 2.5 million in total, but did so many things. No useless mouths to feed! We have gone from 3billion to 7 billion in one generation on this planet, and in that time have not even returned to the moon! I think we are staring down the barrel of a world of 30 billion moorons in another 30 years. We reward TV stars, and call scientists geeks, hmmm, gee, I wonder why it's all going awry...


Uh..LOL..We did not go from 3 billion to 7 billion in one generation.
maybe in one generation we have made 600 million, but not 4 billion, C'mon get your facts straight. We're not rabbits here.
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| August 12, 2010, 2:53 am
Quoting El Barto !
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke

Uh..LOL..We did not go from 3 billion to 7 billion in one generation.
maybe in one generation we have made 600 million, but not 4 billion, C'mon get your facts straight. We're not rabbits here. >>>

No, I think he's right, when I was a kid, in the 70's, we were at around 3B give or take. That's when 'experts' were saying we'd max out at 4B.


Cheers ElBArto, yeh, I was reffering to a generation being 30 years, I think MArtin might think it is less. In the 80's the world had close to 3.5 billion people and now it is almost 7 billion. Most of the explosion has been on the continent of Asia...

The world was just 1 billion in 1900, with European stock representing half that sum at the time. How we have dissapeared...
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| August 12, 2010, 9:47 am
Quoting Martin Steenbeeke

Uh..LOL..We did not go from 3 billion to 7 billion in one generation.
maybe in one generation we have made 600 million, but not 4 billion, C'mon get your facts straight. We're not rabbits here.

No, I think he's right. When I was a kid in the 70's we were at around 3.5 B give or take. That's when the 'experts' said we would max out at 4B
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| August 12, 2010, 9:49 am
Quoting Parrington Levens
So true about the lowest denominators! It's like the masses exist to drag humanity down. Look at the ancient Greeks, they wer about 2.5 million in total, but did so many things. No useless mouths to feed! We have gone from 3billion to 7 billion in one generation on this planet, and in that time have not even returned to the moon! I think we are staring down the barrel of a world of 30 billion moorons in another 30 years. We reward TV stars, and call scientists geeks, hmmm, gee, I wonder why it's all going awry...

My sentiments exactly! Intellectual achievement is punished in schools and society. No time is spent helping 'advanced' students to excell, they're given busy work, or end up being assistant teachers. And when I see people rioting in the streets because they're increasing the retirement age to 54, that's when we're in trouble. The achievers in the world can only support so many leaches...Now THAT's a reason to build a Battlestar and take off!
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| August 12, 2010, 9:55 am
Quoting El Barto !
My sentiments exactly! Success is punished in schools and society. No time is spent helping 'advanced' students to excell, they're given busy work, or end up being assistant teachers. And when I see people rioting in the streets because they're increasing the retirement age to 54, that's when we're in trouble. The achievers in the world can only support so many leaches...Now THAT's a reason to build a Battlestar and take off!

I'm in buddy. I'll take a shot at being X.O. - an non Cylon one! Howeverr I definitely want a Cylon plaything, my very Boomer model will do nicely, or maybe a No 6. That said, I'd be quite happy with Starbuck, she was totally cool! Let's build this battlestar and get out of here, hehehe. NO wonder I started the GAIA theme, just my way of wishful thinking...
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| August 12, 2010, 10:10 am
Quoting Parrington Levens
I'm in buddy. I'll take a shot at being X.O. - an non Cylon one! Howeverr I definitely want a Cylon plaything, my very Boomer model will do nicely, or maybe a No 6. That said, I'd be quite happy with Starbuck, she was totally cool! Let's build this battlestar and get out of here, hehehe. NO wonder I started the GAIA theme, just my way of wishful thinking...

"Welcome, How may I help you?"
"I'll have the Number 6...and the number 8...uh..a Diet Coke, and an apple pie. My friend will have the same."
"Thank you, Drive through."
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| August 12, 2010, 10:41 am
I think if there was competition, we would have a colony on mars, or would be establishing one as we speak. If the Chinese try to send a man to Mars (which if my memory serves me correct they plan to within the next fifty years), the US and possibly other world superpowers would try to do it first. We need this kind of competition to advance our society, for now. I hope that Human weakness, greed, and corruption are eradicated in the future and we will advance our understanding and technology for the greater good. If this is ever to happen we have to do something and not wait around for someone else to come around and do it. WE are the future and WE need to evolve as the world evolves too.

On a side note, I haven't done to much research and I need to do more, but I think that Anti-Matter is the energy source of the future. From what I've read, It's 100% efficient and one gram could power a city for a week. On the downside there is no way to harvest it's energy with todays technology and its the (or one of the) most unstable substances known to man. About one gram could vaporize almost anything within a radius on about half a kilometer if it comes in contact with matter.

Like I said forgive me if I'm wrong, I haven't done enough research on the subject(s) and I'll be happy to admit that I'm wrong (if you can backup what you say with fact) because I don't or don't claim to know everything about the subject.
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| August 12, 2010, 3:13 pm
Quoting Lionex Hunter
I think if there was competition, we would have a colony on mars, or would be establishing one as we speak. If the Chinese try to send a man to Mars (which if my memory serves me correct they plan to within the next fifty years), the US and possibly other world superpowers would try to do it first. We need this kind of competition to advance our society, for now. I hope that Human weakness, greed, and corruption are eradicated in the future and we will advance our understanding and technology for the greater good. If this is ever to happen we have to do something and not wait around for someone else to come around and do it. WE are the future and WE need to evolve as the world evolves too.

On a side note, I haven't done to much research and I need to do more, but I think that Anti-Matter is the energy source of the future. From what I've read, It's 100% efficient and one gram could power a city for a week. On the downside there is no way to harvest it's energy with todays technology and its the (or one of the) most unstable substances known to man. About one gram could vaporize almost anything within a radius on about half a kilometer if it comes in contact with matter.

Like I said forgive me if I'm wrong, I haven't done enough research on the subject(s) and I'll be happy to admit that I'm wrong (if you can backup what you say with fact) because I don't or don't claim to know everything about the subject.


Yeh, I've heard that anti-matter immedietly anniahalates when it hits matter in a bright explosion of light. I supposse you could harness the energy with super solar panels or somethings or but I've heard more promising thing about cold fusion. If we could release the energy stored in just water, we would have all the power we would ever need, but how...? MAte you seem interested in this stuff, come join us at the G.A.I.A group, it's all space and aliens and stuff... Cheers
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| August 16, 2010, 9:50 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
UFO's are fake to begin with

Actually there was a rather interesting episode on the history channel, about Nazi technology. Apparently Germany was developing a flying saucer and the project was later taken up by America. That's why so there were concentrated spots of 'sightings'- at least that's what the History channel said.
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| August 16, 2010, 10:56 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Actually there was a rather interesting episode on the history channel, about Nazi technology. Apparently Germany was developing a flying saucer and the project was later taken up by America. That's why so there were concentrated spots of 'sightings'- at least that's what the History channel said.


And this "History channel" is reliable?

Nuh-uh.

Television is never correct. Everything on it is geared specifically to interest people with absolutely no attention span, who only pay attention to things they think look interesting.

And secondly, it's not Nazi technology, it's German technology.

If you can't take the time to get the simplest details right, don't even bother posting.
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| August 16, 2010, 11:39 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Actually there was a rather interesting episode on the history channel, about Nazi technology. Apparently Germany was developing a flying saucer and the project was later taken up by America. That's why so there were concentrated spots of 'sightings'- at least that's what the History channel said.

I think I may have seen parts of that show, with some sort of concrete framework to contain the 'object' that could defy gravity or something. I think they also described how the Nazis/Germans were working on a space program, experimenting with a depressurizing room, putting people in there and seeing what the limits were. However, the flying saucer/hovercraft is a well documented machine, and a fair amount of the testing was done by the Canadians. But that was a different show.
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| August 17, 2010, 10:20 am
Quoting Parrington Levens

Yeh, I've heard that anti-matter immedietly anniahalates when it hits matter in a bright explosion of light. I supposse you could harness the energy with super solar panels or somethings or but I've heard more promising thing about cold fusion. If we could release the energy stored in just water, we would have all the power we would ever need, but how...? MAte you seem interested in this stuff, come join us at the G.A.I.A group, it's all space and aliens and stuff... Cheers

I thought you could harness the matter/anti matter reaction with a dilithium crystal chamber and direct the energy through various plasma conduits? How a Colonial FTL jump drive works, I have no clue...
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| August 17, 2010, 1:31 pm
Quoting Doctor N
Well, I never! As an American, I would like to challenge that remark...but I can't because it is so obviously correct.


Of course, didn't you know that I know everything? That shows you what you know.


XD

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| October 8, 2010, 6:11 am
Quoting Rtas 'Vadum
Only one little problem with antimatter energy: it takes a ton of energy to produce, and all of the antimatter ever produced at CERN (look it up) could power a lightbulb... for fifteen whole minutes. Not very energy efficient. Nuclear fusion is the way to go. Fusion has been achieved in multiple ways, but never powered anything. However, there is a fusion reactor somewhere that has a bunch of high-power lasers (192 I think) focused on a single point that start the fusion reaction. As for the topic, I think if the governments (mostly the U.S., since I think almost everyone else has stopped) stop preaching about "global warming" and do the research, then we'll have crazy stuff like laser guns and 1.21 gigawatt time machines or something. Seriously, CO2 levels are pretty low in comparison to a few hundred thousand years ago. The temperature is cooler now than 200 million years ago (show me one dinosaur with a car. Exactly. Dinosaurs aren't sapient) and we're coming out of an ice age.

I agree, Frack Global Warming! It's all about redistribution of wealth from those who create it to those who drain it. And eventually They will run out of Ours. And we should be spending money on research and the advancement of science, and of course, building cool blasters and stuff!
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| October 8, 2010, 5:18 pm
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