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| February 15, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Brian Kescenovitz
A place forÖwell, a place for general conversation, oddly enough.



Well who'da thunk it?
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| February 15, 2009, 5:35 pm
Sorry. All of mine are oldies.
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| February 15, 2009, 11:12 pm
hehe, my DF ratio is 3:4 Mecha. 4, being my 4 mecha.
Incase you forgot....
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| February 16, 2009, 6:49 am
Well, it looks like we have 2 David's in the group!!!
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| February 16, 2009, 8:45 am
Hey Brian, is the DF a spacefaring fraction? Like possesing full FTL ships, or is it just simply an intersolar fraction?
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| February 16, 2009, 8:50 am
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Quoting Phong Chang
Sorry. All of mine are oldies.

No worries Phong...so are mine. ;-)

But I do have more in the works...

Quoting David B.
Hey Brian, is the DF a spacefaring fraction? Like possesing full FTL ships, or is it just simply an intersolar fraction?

Space faring? Definitely. Faster than light drives? Probably not, but letís wait until I finish a backstory to decide that one for sure. They definitely have space fairing military vessels though, with kinetic based weapons like mass drivers and rail guns, as well as rockets/missiles/torpedoes.

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| February 16, 2009, 4:29 pm
Quoting Brian Kescenovitz
No worries Phong...so are mine. ;-)

But I do have more in the works...

Quoting David B.
Hey Brian, is the DF a spacefaring fraction? Like possesing full FTL ships, or is it just simply an intersolar fraction?

Space faring? Definitely. Faster than light drives? Probably not, but letís wait until I finish a backstory to decide that one for sure. They definitely have space fairing military vessels though, with kinetic based weapons like mass drivers and rail guns, as well as rockets/missiles/torpedoes.



Rail guns, my favorite. If only I had more bley...
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| February 16, 2009, 11:09 pm
Oh, YEAH!, Can we PLEASE take a moment here to use HALO for something good?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
What i am proposing(yeah...will you marry me Mr. Kescenovitz, lol) ANYWAY..... Can we Use HALO for this instance, they have Slip space drives which inadvertently RIP holes in space, just like bullets through skin.
So as we have Space travel at the moment, which is fairly limited, I am saying, that as DF is set far enough into the future, that we could at least build carrier ships for the Mecha (for you Mr. Kescenovitz, you would need a REALLY big ship) which are capable of FTL travel.
And just imagine the Possibilities in Dark Bley.
The whole thing would have to match the dawn forge theme, SO NO LASER WEAPONS, but this is where HALO comes in, they have MAC guns, Machine guns, and FTL ships. It'd be like bringing HALO to a New extreme (well....AN extreme) by Bringing ONLY the slip space drives into Human (DF) ships, that are large enough to accommodate Mecha. Even though the Mecha cannot operate in space, they should be carried on ships, so that if they do happen to be critically damaged, the mecha can be deployed on a planets surface to defend the crash site until re-enforcements arrive.
It would Expand DF that much Further, and allow expansion of it's territories to other planets...just like in HALO.


Have i made this TOO complicated?
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| February 17, 2009, 1:51 am
Most of you have seen my AR-MECH-NID, correct?
It would be the most PERFECT item to have onboard a DF ship, as if it were invaded, my little b*gg*rs could seek and destroy the infiltrators.
If you haven't already checked it out, as you will see what I mean by "destroy".
PLEASE Mr. Kescenovitz, I am Begging, if not FTL, then at LEAST have NTLT (Near to Light Travel) ships. But if we do, then we have to make proper crews, with standard uniforms, and standardised interiors.
But i think other than that, we have this nailed. So why not? lets do it!
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| February 17, 2009, 1:56 am
Martin- Now that I think about it, the more I realise DF is better left as an Earth- based rather than a spacefaring nation. If anything, DF should have some spaceships, though nothing FTL, like maybe orbital WOMD. I hate to use video games as examples, but the technology of Gears of War, pre-locust. It's like humanity 100 years in the future.
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| February 17, 2009, 12:18 pm
Yeah, I did think over that last night. I see your point. Now that i think about it, Why don't we keep it inter solar travel, so like moon colonisation, Colonisation of the moons of Jupiter.
Something like that. It would be good if DF had a Space fleet.
Here is a backstory I thought of in the shower:(Probably really pitiful) "We Humans, bred on Earth, The Ants of Earth, Have, in the last century Spread out and explored the galaxy. We have created Mecha and Star Ships that we have banded together to form a Galactic Defence force, Known only as Dawn Forge.
We have colonised many planets, and defeated countless terrains with our Battle machines. We have conquered space travel, But unfortunately, so has the rest of man kind. We strive to make our Mecha and Ships stronger, faster, more powerful. But as Human technology advances, other parties have built, or Captured Dawn Forge Mecha. We fight these foes, but it like trying to stab at yourself with a knife, as they are our brothers, not our enemy.
Many Space ships have been built as warships, and many have been re-fitted to defend them selves, from a NEW enemy. They are pirates who know no boundaries, they attack our installations, and destroy our mecha from the air. We have fought these Pirates for a decade now, they are relentless. So we have had to stoop down to their level, and Bring our battle ships to the fight. We have had to manufacture mecha by the thousands, and ships that can carry them, and other ships which can defend those transport ships from the pirates.
Our Ships have been boarded, some Mecha have been plundered, and pieces stolen.
We have no fancy Old Sci-fi shields, or,Lasers, nor Faster than light capable ships. Our scientists have been kidnapped, killed and tortured. Our threats are just as powerful as us. We need to Battle this foe, by creating Battle ships that can destroy pirate ships, we need to build mecha which can fight these pirates on the ground.
Either way, be it Land or Space, we will destroy our foes, and come to complete victory.
We will conquer the Galaxy once more.
This is Dawn Forge."

Kinda like a good/bad space scenario...but mostly Mecha's, so a limited line of ships, with MAC guns, Point defence Machine guns.
And carriers.
But i thought of this in the shower...just a little thing i was thinking about...it means nothing...just thought i'd say it.
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| February 17, 2009, 4:00 pm
Yeah...i s'pose you're right. Even though Space craft would expand Dawn Forge, There is no point. They would have to be big enough to carry the mecha. Also 1 advantage is that the mecha can fight on the ground, and the ships can fight in space. Like, say, Mars rebelled and started building a fleet of ships.
Dawn Forge would have to defend itself.
I see that DF could be expanded by space ships, but they would have to be War ships.

But the Ultimate decision is up to you Mr. Kescenovitz.
I just like the idea of spacing DF. It gives people who can't build Mecha, but can build ships, a HUGE opportunity. Of course the ships would have to be under guideli....i'm rambling again ain't i?
Well it's up to you.
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| February 17, 2009, 4:13 pm
What about people who can't build ships OR mechs, like me for example?
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| February 17, 2009, 6:56 pm
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Ok, guys, here is how itís going to work. Dawn Forge is absolutely a space fairing faction, but I donít want to go crazy with huge Star Destroyer-ish capital ships and giant space armadas streaking through the void. FTL and NTL travel is off limits for now so the action should take place for the most part within the solar system, but research into new technologies continues so FTL or NTL travel could become a possibility at some point.

Mankind has left earth to branch out, colonizing parts of the more hospitable moons and planets, as well as building space born colonies either entirely man made or based on mineral rich asteroids. Of course, spacecraft were an integral part of this process, including building warships, but they should beÖreasonable. Sleek and curvy capital ships with absurdly large weapon arrays is not DF. Something more realistic and utilitarian in style with a few banks of torpedos, some small turrets spaced about the ship, and maybe one or two larger main guns is much closer to the mark.

The HALO analogy is an excellent one, and no doubt is where much of my inspiration comes from, since Iím a huge fan of the game. The UNSC Frigate is a perfect example of how I picture a large DF starship. Here is a link -
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Frigate
It's boxy, angular, and utilitarian, but in a mean way. No fluff, all business, with realistically scaled weapons. Although, do keep in mind that if you mount a powerful railgun/magnetic accelerator/mass driver type weapon as a main gun, it would probably take up a large portion of the internal structure, even though the actual section of "barrel" that protudes from the ship is fairly small. Just remember though, that itís the dominance of the DFís mecha technology in land warfare that truly solidifies their power. Of course, as a result of that fact, mech carrying dropships are a given.

Dawn Forge is actually the name given to the combined military forces of the Eye of Dawn, a sovereign nation formed following the collapse of the United States of America after itís catastrophic second civil war. Iím in the midst of working on a full backstory for it all, but for now, if you want to build DF, just use the guidelines and build. Backstories are lots fun, and you guys have some great ideas, but in the end, itís the time and effort you put into the actual MOCs that speaks volumes more than the imaginary context you place it in ever could.

Itís great to see your enthusiasm for DF though, and I look forward to any future builds you might come up with. When I do finally finish the backstory, Iíll be posting it here as well as on my MOCpages homepage. Just be patient, thoughÖIím not a very fast builder OR writerÖ
Quoting John Moffat
What about people who can't build ships OR mechs, like me for example?
:)

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| February 17, 2009, 11:19 pm
HOLY CARP!, I never believed it...but I am pretty imaginative. That is so cool.
It does appear 'Great Minds' think alike.
As i already guessed you wanted ships, or at least air vehicles.
hehe. Already planning my DF drop ships. AND the drop ship for those drop ships.
....Yes I like thinking big, but not necessarily building big...
If you'd like...I can make predominantly drop ships and the like.
But for ships we have to work out crew uniforms.
How about light bley Uniforms with Decals?
or is that too HALO?

Sorry for playing on your Blind spot Mr. Kescenovitz. But it appears you were doing the same to yourself....No Offence is meant by that.
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| February 18, 2009, 3:56 am
All right, this gives me some great ideas for new Dawn Forge creations! Brian, I can't wait to hear the complete back-story for Dawn Forge.
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| February 18, 2009, 6:11 am
Well....building Dawn forge space craft isn't as easy as I thought. And i only built a Supply ship.
4 hours.....
I will post it sometime in the next 12 hours: so about 11 AM tomorrow Morning.
It is Light Bley, and Dark Bley...the Light Bley is striping.
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| February 18, 2009, 7:21 am
Not what I expected, ah well. Maybe I'm to conservative. Anywho, maybe the ships should be styled like a mix of the Minmatar and Caldari ships from EVE online. (Google it, use EVEwikia, and sorry for no link, I'm typing on an iPhone)
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| February 18, 2009, 10:04 am
Hey Brian, how do you come up with names for your mechs? I have the hardest time trying to think of new ones.
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| March 23, 2009, 3:21 am
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Quoting CC-7576 "Rex"
Hey, Brian, check out my newest Dawn Forge mech, there you can find my finished Dawn Forge soilder concept.

More quality work Rex, keep it up!
Quoting Luke Manuel
Hey Brian, how do you come up with names for your mechs? I have the hardest time trying to think of new ones.

I know what you mean Luke. I have a huge list of potential names, but when the time comes, it seems it's always hard to find the one that works.

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| March 23, 2009, 5:03 pm
i make mine up on the spot, but i generally use mythological figure.(just in case anyone cares...)
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| March 23, 2009, 9:22 pm
Hello everybody, and hello espically to Brian. I realize that it would've been politer to wait for an invitation to join, but not a lot of people know about me and i figured otherwise id probably never get in. When i saw Zero Hour on Highway 44 (Dawn Forge Mix) i thought to myself: "thats what i want to be able to do"
now im nowhere near that good, even good enough for one of those mechs, but the Dawn Forge is quite interesting to me and i am currently working on one, which i realize now is quite similar to the latest creation on the group home page. Also, my mechs will be gray, though probably mostly light grey. My lack of bricks is disturbing... thanks again. Ill post soon.
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| March 24, 2009, 6:47 pm
ok scratch that last one. i have finished a smaller mech and i will post asap.
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| March 26, 2009, 4:34 pm
This isn't really Dawn Forge related, but it's been bugging me. Brian, how did you get the name Mondayn00dle over on Flickr?
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| April 6, 2009, 4:06 pm
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Itís from one of my favorite movies. Itís up to you to figure out which oneÖ;-)
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| April 6, 2009, 4:16 pm
Brian-
I realized you just told Phong that his wouldnt work because of the color scheme. I have a similar question. Mines all black with Dark Blue lines. I simply dont have enough bley bricks for something this big so i used black. If it's a no, i completely understand, but if you could look, you can find it in my Mechs/Dawn Forge. Its The B.E.A.S.T. Mech. please respond. Thanks!
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| April 10, 2009, 4:05 pm
Hi Brian and everyone else.
iīve got the same problem: im just building an tactical drop ship, an APC and an light howitzer-trailer for the APC but i had to built them with light grey, dark grey and black pieces. I will post them the next few days, would be nice if you could take a look at them. i only want to know if iīm allowed to post them as DF or not. Greez Ben.
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| April 12, 2009, 11:49 am
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Christian- I told Phong it wouldnít work because of the humanoid/anime style of the mecha, not the color scheme, which was actually very DF. That said, if you really want to build DF, just do the best you can with what color bricks youíve got, and focus more on the form, style, shape, etc. I realize that not everyone has a large LEGO collection.

Benedikt- Light grey, dark grey, and black are just fine.

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| April 13, 2009, 12:31 am
Quoting Brian Kescenovitz
Christian- I told Phong it wouldnít work because of the humanoid/anime style of the mecha, not the color scheme, which was actually very DF. That said, if you really want to build DF, just do the best you can with what color bricks youíve got, and focus more on the form, style, shape, etc. I realize that not everyone has a large LEGO collection.

Benedikt- Light grey, dark grey, and black are just fine.

ok thanks. ill just try to build smaller stuff in bley.
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| April 13, 2009, 12:25 pm
To everybody here-
i'm having a contest type thing based on the funnniest moc. see my homepage for details and rules. i would love it if you all enter. thanks!
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| April 16, 2009, 8:08 pm
Hey Brian, are the green and white tiles featured on your new DF mocks the DF logo? or is it a sort of Badge for a unit or division?
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| April 28, 2009, 1:46 am
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Quoting Kenny Hanson
Hey Brian, are the green and white tiles featured on your new DF mocks the DF logo? or is it a sort of Badge for a unit or division?
It's just a color scheme for that particular division. And the "white" is actually light bluish grey.

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| April 29, 2009, 2:03 am
Hi guys can u check my new mech and say me how it is and if its ok with the theme please? Cause i need an outside opinion, Thanks.
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| May 23, 2009, 7:08 am
hey Brian-
Do you by chance have the item number or part name of the joints for the Csek (the T-joint) for Bricklink? I was hoping to build one, but I'm not sure where to find it on Bricklink. Thanks.
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| May 30, 2009, 12:17 am
I made a new vehicle to post. I call it Assault Class Light ATV. It also has a Heavy Variant that has a larger gauss canon turret than just the macine gun. It also shows of my new DF soldier stickers on some minifigs.
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| May 30, 2009, 3:56 pm
I will soon add my first DF moc! Hope you like it when it comes.
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| June 3, 2009, 9:49 am
But wath is the guid line for the metall creatures? The enemies.

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| June 10, 2009, 6:29 am
Well I joined dawn forge fore not so long time ago and my first moc was very good and my second. But then I think I have been doing some thing wrong, in the design or some thing. It have only got worse for each df moc I have post. So can you please chek out my df mocs and tell me how I could build them better. Please. Daniel.
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| June 14, 2009, 3:45 pm
This is probably a totally unrelated question, but is there a reason why there are very few DF aircraft?
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| June 14, 2009, 5:44 pm
Quoting Matthew Park
This is probably a totally unrelated question, but is there a reason why there are very few DF aircraft?

I'm working on one. why don't you make some?
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| June 16, 2009, 3:42 am
I have already built a Dawn Forge Aircraft/Dropship
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| June 16, 2009, 4:01 am
Quoting danny morgan
I'm working on one. why don't you make some?

I'm planning on it! Although, I'm a tad short on bley and grey pieces, so at this point, I'm either making a TAV or some kind of aircraft. Maybe even a combination of both!
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| June 16, 2009, 11:01 am
I have been reading through every ones comments (sad I know) and In my opinion the _-DF-_ should have Medium to large drop-ships capable of carrying Mechs round earth, (Maybe some All terrain vehicles as well) and should have space ships, just incase.
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| June 23, 2009, 3:57 pm
Makes sense. Oh, and how do all of you get that nice background in your pictures? I would think you would just take some posterboard or something, tape another posterboard to it, and so you get a cheap photo studio. (Am I right?)
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| June 24, 2009, 8:15 pm
Quoting Matthew Park
Makes sense. Oh, and how do all of you get that nice background in your pictures? I would think you would just take some posterboard or something, tape another posterboard to it, and so you get a cheap photo studio. (Am I right?)


Me? Yes, I use a chroma keying program (Green screen) but its not working at the moment so I have to use other methods :-)
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| June 28, 2009, 2:46 am
I recently built a Jeep-ish vehicle for the DF. However, it has a roll cage, and I feel that it's too old-fashion for the Dawn Forge. Is it?
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| July 16, 2009, 8:29 am
Quoting Matthew Park
I recently built a Jeep-ish vehicle for the DF. However, it has a roll cage, and I feel that it's too old-fashion for the Dawn Forge. Is it?


In my opinion a roll cage could work, providing there are a lot of futuristic things on it, why not post it so people can take better look?
This is weird, I'm 12, I use Chroma Keying, and I use commas all the time, Freaky!

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| July 19, 2009, 9:48 am
Quoting Commander Fade .

In my opinion a roll cage could work, providing there are a lot of futuristic things on it, why not post it so people can take better look?
This is weird, I'm 12, I use Chroma Keying, and I use commas all the time, Freaky!

Thanks, and you're not alone. :D
Although, I haven't quite mastered chroma keying.

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| July 19, 2009, 10:40 am
Hello people of Dawn Forge! I just joined, my first (TINY) mech should be up soon. It's pretty cool, I think it fits the theme pretty well. But I had a question Brian; Is it alright if a creation doesn't have any accent colors, and if it uses black in the armor? My little guy is so small I couldn't fit any accents!
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| August 4, 2009, 1:21 pm
I added a new sticker creation with lots of DF soldier styles!!
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| August 6, 2009, 12:11 pm
Quoting Knoll grey
i make mine up on the spot, but i generally use mythological figure.(just in case anyone cares...)


That is good! man, until the moment i read that it was herd for me to name them too, thx for the tip.

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| August 7, 2009, 8:27 pm
I think, that a roll cage on a DF vehicle would diversify how DF vehicles could look. Maybe add a new perspective on how to build,even? Either way, it seems clever.
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| August 7, 2009, 8:40 pm
Thanks, I really have to get my creations posted soon. Any recommendations for ways to take good pictures, at a low cost?
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| August 8, 2009, 10:43 am
Quoting Matthew Park
Thanks, I really have to get my creations posted soon. Any recommendations for ways to take good pictures, at a low cost?


Check this out>>> http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/65635
Hope it helps!
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| August 9, 2009, 8:02 am
Quoting Turtle .

Check this out>>> http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/65635
Hope it helps!

It should! Thanks for the tip! Now I just have to find my Photoshop...
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| August 12, 2009, 8:56 am
Quoting Brian Kescenovitz
Ok, guys, here is how itís going to work. Dawn Forge is absolutely a space fairing faction, but I donít want to go crazy with huge Star Destroyer-ish capital ships and giant space armadas streaking through the void. FTL and NTL travel is off limits for now so the action should take place for the most part within the solar system, but research into new technologies continues so FTL or NTL travel could become a possibility at some point.

Mankind has left earth to branch out, colonizing parts of the more hospitable moons and planets, as well as building space born colonies either entirely man made or based on mineral rich asteroids. Of course, spacecraft were an integral part of this process, including building warships, but they should beÖreasonable. Sleek and curvy capital ships with absurdly large weapon arrays is not DF. Something more realistic and utilitarian in style with a few banks of torpedos, some small turrets spaced about the ship, and maybe one or two larger main guns is much closer to the mark.

The HALO analogy is an excellent one, and no doubt is where much of my inspiration comes from, since Iím a huge fan of the game. The UNSC Frigate is a perfect example of how I picture a large DF starship. Here is a link -
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Frigate
It's boxy, angular, and utilitarian, but in a mean way. No fluff, all business, with realistically scaled weapons. Although, do keep in mind that if you mount a powerful railgun/magnetic accelerator/mass driver type weapon as a main gun, it would probably take up a large portion of the internal structure, even though the actual section of "barrel" that protudes from the ship is fairly small. Just remember though, that itís the dominance of the DFís mecha technology in land warfare that truly solidifies their power. Of course, as a result of that fact, mech carrying dropships are a given.

Dawn Forge is actually the name given to the combined military forces of the Eye of Dawn, a sovereign nation formed following the collapse of the United States of America after itís catastrophic second civil war. Iím in the midst of working on a full backstory for it all, but for now, if you want to build DF, just use the guidelines and build. Backstories are lots fun, and you guys have some great ideas, but in the end, itís the time and effort you put into the actual MOCs that speaks volumes more than the imaginary context you place it in ever could.

Itís great to see your enthusiasm for DF though, and I look forward to any future builds you might come up with. When I do finally finish the backstory, Iíll be posting it here as well as on my MOCpages homepage. Just be patient, thoughÖIím not a very fast builder OR writerÖ
Quoting John Moffat
What about people who can't build ships OR mechs, like me for example?
:)

Oh no! usa has collapsed :O. :)

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| August 15, 2009, 9:20 pm
Hey Brian, check out my Amoeba. I'm not sure if it qualifies for DF because it doesn't have any accents. Thanks!
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| August 23, 2009, 5:56 pm
I have a building question if anyone can answer. How do you build the Gatling guns that are on some of BK's mechs? i have the barrel together, but it won't stay put! please help.
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| January 3, 2010, 1:03 pm
Brian, can you give me some tips on creating a mecha/mecha? Mostly its just the lower legs, I have issues with creating those.
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| October 22, 2010, 3:40 pm
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