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 Group admin 
The judging has started, feel free to whine and complain here, not that we will listen.
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| March 1, 2011, 3:41 pm
You forgot our team (fighter hawks) in the standings thread. Also I thought my moc was twisted enough, although I don't want to keep kicking a dead horse.
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| March 2, 2011, 8:07 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sean .
You forgot our team (fighter hawks) in the standings thread. Also I thought my moc was twisted enough, although I don't want to keep kicking a dead horse.

Your team, has 1 point right now...1 At the time I posted the standings you had ZERO. What the heck was I supposed to post? If I post the update Thursday you will see your 1 point. Unless the other judges wake up and get to judging. No, you missed the boat on the twisted landscape totally. Unless Chris gives you a point, you will have the first zero of the games. Now, had you put that moc in tower, you would have scored some points as it was not bad.
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| March 2, 2011, 8:11 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
Your team, has 1 point right now...1 At the time I posted the standings you had ZERO. What the heck was I supposed to post? If I post the update Thursday you will see your 1 point. Unless the other judges wake up and get to judging. No, you missed the boat on the twisted landscape totally. Unless Chris gives you a point, you will have the first zero of the games. Now, had you put that moc in tower, you would have scored some points as it was not bad.
Alright, alright sorry.

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| March 2, 2011, 8:17 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sean .
Quoting Mister Bones
Your team, has 1 point right now...1 At the time I posted the standings you had ZERO. What the heck was I supposed to post? If I post the update Thursday you will see your 1 point. Unless the other judges wake up and get to judging. No, you missed the boat on the twisted landscape totally. Unless Chris gives you a point, you will have the first zero of the games. Now, had you put that moc in tower, you would have scored some points as it was not bad.
Alright, alright sorry.

HAHAHAHAHA, you asked for it! (It was a good build though)
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| March 2, 2011, 8:18 pm
Waah!
I can't nearly build, I have precious little internet time and I'm missing all this!
(seriously, it will be another month or so and I'm getting kind of pissed)
Have fun!
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| March 3, 2011, 7:25 am
Mister Bones. ive scored a few points for team fighter Hawks so when will u be updating that?
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| March 3, 2011, 8:48 am
How are you keeping the scores? Like all of the points added together or all the points divided by something?...Cause our team should have 13 total points right now.
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| March 3, 2011, 9:33 am
Quoting Legofreak2444 .
How are you keeping the scores? Like all of the points added together or all the points divided by something?...Cause our team should have 13 total points right now.


Patience is a virtue gentleman. Mister Bones does have a job and a real life to attend to beyond the MOC A's. Does it really bother you that much that he hasn't had time to add in your small earnings? You could always keep tally of the scores in your own group if you get bored.
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| March 3, 2011, 9:44 am
 Group admin 
Thanks Heath. Listen folks, I do have a real job and a real life, if you all keep whining about score updates I will only do it once a week, so no more of that.
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| March 3, 2011, 10:06 am
 Group admin 
Remember everyone, Bones is doing you a favor by posting the standings when he can. He's not going to update the scores every time someone gets a point for their team, it's just not realistic. Be patient and he'll update them when he can.
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| March 3, 2011, 10:34 am
I know that my team hasn't got a particularly high amount of points yet, but could we please at least be put on the standings list? Piece Out is the name.
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| March 4, 2011, 6:02 am
Quoting Felix the Cat
I know that my team hasn't got a particularly high amount of points yet, but could we please at least be put on the standings list? Piece Out is the name.


Didn't you read anything directly above you!? ._.
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| March 4, 2011, 6:05 am
Hey, it's MOCing Pie! The guy who posts entries and then deletes them when they should have been DQ'd. Very slick moves there! How many times have you gotten away with it so far? Once...twice?
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| March 4, 2011, 11:10 am
 Group admin 
He's just lucky we haven't caught him yet... The rules say once it's posted to the group, that's IT! No changes. If we actually see it happen... someone's gonna be in trouble...
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| March 4, 2011, 11:17 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Felix the Cat
I know that my team hasn't got a particularly high amount of points yet, but could we please at least be put on the standings list? Piece Out is the name.

Your team has 5 points and is in 18th place, or last place of the teams that have posted anything. Happy now? Here is an idea, you all should try to build instead of worrying about how often I update the scores.
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| March 4, 2011, 11:20 am
Quoting Mister Bones
Your team has 5 points and is in 18th place, or last place of the teams that have posted anything. Happy now? Here is an idea, you all should try to build instead of worrying about how often I update the scores.


I'm not worrying about how often you update the scores - I just worried when I didn't see my team name there, which is understandable. And I'm building alright, just waiting for a Bricklink order so that I can finish building. Thanks.
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| March 4, 2011, 7:42 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Oh, and Bones...you wouldn't know a 5 point model if you tripped over it.


Don't underrate yourself man. The spider thing was actually pretty good.
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| March 4, 2011, 9:39 pm
Hey, um... Our team name is unTITLED MOC Group, for next update.
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| March 4, 2011, 9:57 pm
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
I forgot to sign up!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
Oh well, there's always the MocOlympics!
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| March 4, 2011, 10:02 pm
Quoting Shannon Ocean
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
I forgot to sign up!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
Oh well, there's always the MocOlympics!

Dang... D'OH!
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| March 4, 2011, 10:45 pm
Wow...
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| March 4, 2011, 10:51 pm
Quoting MOCing Pie
I have no idea what you are talking about.


Oh sweet....a liar too! Your parents should be proud!
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| March 5, 2011, 1:10 am
Quoting MOCing Pie
I have no idea what you are talking about.


Good grief!
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| March 5, 2011, 8:51 am
Uhh.. this whine thread is really starting to sound more like the "drama thread".

Less talk, more build!
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| March 5, 2011, 11:18 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
My first comment was held up in moderation, and I dont' care to repeat it for now, except for this.

The Standings are very much off. There are no links to this group in any of my entries and they are not submitted to the pool, both are clear violations. Since you guys are so hardcore and non-selective about rules violations, you should address the current score/standing to reflect that.

I should also apologize again to my team for quitting, but it is clear to me that one judge is trying to influence the outcome of the games. DQ'ing Joseph was right in terms of the rules, althought I wouldn't call what he did "bragging", but the enforcement of the rules has been selective at best. I'm sure Joseph was the only one, so its good that you made an example of him.

What else did I say the first time.....oh, yeah, be very careful what you say in your groups.

Oh, and Bones...you wouldn't know a 5 point model if you tripped over it.

This is the whining thread after all.

Sorry to sound a little rude, but you did a pretty childish thing. If only ONE of our creations got a zero, it doesn't mean that we're going to lose, we are not the only team with Zero points on ONE creation, you know there are 29 more categories, so we still have chance to win.

Just so you know, we didn't give up, even Joseph didn't. We really want to win, and we also want to have Monkey Keith in our group, you know monkey power and stuff, it was your idea and now you left us.

That's all

~Monkey Magma
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| March 5, 2011, 11:25 am
This is not really whining but I can not get my links to work and I just got two zeros, how can I fix this?
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| March 5, 2011, 11:25 am
Quoting Sean .
This is not really whining but I can not get my links to work and I just got two zeros, how can I fix this?

You should... Learn some simple HTML. That's exactly what the link to learn HTML on your add page is like.
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| March 5, 2011, 11:31 am
Quoting Sean .
This is not really whining but I can not get my links to work and I just got two zeros, how can I fix this?

First, you cannot put the link in the introduction, it won't work there. In the section where the pictures are, you should type <a href=http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/15875>;
then type the name of the group, followed by </a>. Also, there is a link on the upload page that says learn simple html that will help you if you forget.~H
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| March 5, 2011, 11:36 am
Quoting Deus _
You should... Learn some simple HTML. That's exactly what the link to learn HTML on your add page is like.
No offence but i know html it's just not working.

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| March 5, 2011, 11:36 am
Quoting Hans DendauwNPD
First, you cannot put the link in the introduction, it won't work there. In the section where the pictures are, you should type <a href=http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/15875>;
then type the name of the group, followed by </a>. Also, there is a link on the upload page that says learn simple html that will help you if you forget.~H
Yeah my insane family messed up the settings because it normally says that.

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| March 5, 2011, 11:42 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Stormbringer .
Uhh.. this whine thread is really starting to sound more like the "drama thread".

Less talk, more build!


I agree whole heartedly.
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| March 5, 2011, 11:51 am
Quoting magma guy
Sorry to sound a little rude, but you did a pretty childish thing. If only ONE of our creations got a zero, it doesn't mean that we're going to lose, we are not the only team with Zero points on ONE creation, you know there are 29 more categories, so we still have chance to win.
From the mouth of babes...~H
Just so you know, we didn't give up, even Joseph didn't. We really want to win, and we also want to have Monkey Keith in our group, you know monkey power and stuff, it was your idea and now you left us.

That's all

~Monkey Magma

Out of the mouth of babes...~H
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| March 5, 2011, 12:07 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
So apparently it's my time of the month, and after talking to Phipson I'm returning to my team, who didn't deserve my quitting.

So apologies all around to my team, the other players and judges for wasting their time with this childish drama. I will endeavor to keep my mouth shut and my hands on the brick.

Now back to your regularly scheduled whining.


Not only do I NOT accept your apology, I do not recognize you as a player in this game either. I don't care if your team makes it to first on your back, I will never recognize what you did as acceptable.

I've heard rumors of this drama you seem to bring wherever you go, and I blew it off as mere gibberish....until now.

You QUIT. Finished. Done. Finito. Hasta La Vista and all that jazz. You abandoned your team, the game, and then attacked a judge. Why? Because your team cheated a bit and got caught? So now you condone cheating? That's a great example to send to everyone. Or was it the less than perfect score that set you off? All you have done is tainted the games with your childish behavior. Thankfully the TFOLs on your team are much more mature.

Your team has mad respect from me, because I surely wouldn't take you back on my team. I'd rather go at it with 4 strong players, than add a fit tossing 5th.

Good luck to the five monkeys. You're going to need it with this egomaniac on your team.
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| March 5, 2011, 6:41 pm
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/256209>;

So for my ^entry^. I would like the judges to maybe clarify a bit why I receieved 2 3's (and probably all 3's) . I am happy to get that, but I am just wondering why it wasnt higher? As, like most technic/bionicle builders, I prefer to hear some type of critisism. Mainly due to the difficulty of using Technic/Bionicle instead system parts.
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| March 5, 2011, 6:55 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

That's a bit rude, is it not?
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| March 5, 2011, 6:59 pm
Quoting Deus _
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

That's a bit rude, is it not?

It may be rude, but it needed to be said.
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| March 5, 2011, 7:31 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

Not only do I NOT accept your apology, I do not recognize you as a player in this game either. I don't care if your team makes it to first on your back, I will never recognize what you did as acceptable.

I've heard rumors of this drama you seem to bring wherever you go, and I blew it off as mere gibberish....until now.

You QUIT. Finished. Done. Finito. Hasta La Vista and all that jazz. You abandoned your team, the game, and then attacked a judge. Why? Because your team cheated a bit and got caught? So now you condone cheating? That's a great example to send to everyone. Or was it the less than perfect score that set you off? All you have done is tainted the games with your childish behavior. Thankfully the TFOLs on your team are much more mature.

Your team has mad respect from me, because I surely wouldn't take you back on my team. I'd rather go at it with 4 strong players, than add a fit tossing 5th.

Good luck to the five monkeys. You're going to need it with this egomaniac on your team.


I second this sentiment. At first I thought some ill conceived fussing should not get in the way of building and could be overlooked with some humor and good will. But Keith has distracted a number of people from both running the show, or building. And he has hurt 4 team mates who surely do not deserve it. Finally, the unabated bashing of Bones is starting to qualify as hateful, which I suspect warrants Sean deleting your account, and is certainly grossly out of place.
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| March 5, 2011, 7:41 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

Not only do I NOT accept your apology, I do not recognize you as a player in this game either. I don't care if your team makes it to first on your back, I will never recognize what you did as acceptable.

I've heard rumors of this drama you seem to bring wherever you go, and I blew it off as mere gibberish....until now.

You QUIT. Finished. Done. Finito. Hasta La Vista and all that jazz. You abandoned your team, the game, and then attacked a judge. Why? Because your team cheated a bit and got caught? So now you condone cheating? That's a great example to send to everyone. Or was it the less than perfect score that set you off? All you have done is tainted the games with your childish behavior. Thankfully the TFOLs on your team are much more mature.

Your team has mad respect from me, because I surely wouldn't take you back on my team. I'd rather go at it with 4 strong players, than add a fit tossing 5th.

Good luck to the five monkeys. You're going to need it with this egomaniac on your team.

Come on guys lets treat the game with a little more respect than this. I'm not saying that what Keith did was right but that is between him, his teamates and the judges. There's no reason to jump into this and try to stir up harsh feelings and problems.
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| March 5, 2011, 7:48 pm
 Group admin 
Hey everyone! Keith has said he was sorry, he had a reason why he was upset with me, hopefully that is over and we can all just build and have some fun. This is Lego afterall, not a cause for DEFON 1. I am being tough as a judge, I know that, I am not trying to be mean in any way, heck, go look at my builds, I could not out do most of you! No bashing of Heath either, he was sticking up for what he believes is right, and I thank him and Tom for the support..ers....now, PLAY ON!
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| March 5, 2011, 8:01 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Lord Oblivion
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/256209>;

So for my ^entry^. I would like the judges to maybe clarify a bit why I receieved 2 3's (and probably all 3's) . I am happy to get that, but I am just wondering why it wasnt higher? As, like most technic/bionicle builders, I prefer to hear some type of critisism. Mainly due to the difficulty of using Technic/Bionicle instead system parts.

I gave you a 4. I liked it very much. One of the best entries in that category thus far. Every judge sees something different in an entry and goes to view an entry expecting something different. I gave a 2 where the other judges gave a 4 to another entry yesterday for that very reason.
They just must have been expecting something else from the category and felt you did not live up to their expectations. But remember, a 3 point moc is a very very good score. You should be proud of that.
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| March 5, 2011, 8:06 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Mister Bones
....now, PLAY ON!

Yes I agree! The issue is laid to rest as he has left the group again. So for everybody still having a great time here lets put your all and everything into the remainder of the games!

There are some amazing mocs posted so far and it is clear the amount of effort everybody is putting into this. It makes our job as judges a lot of fun to see our categories brought to life with lots of thought and creativity. Well done all and good luck with your next builds!


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| March 5, 2011, 8:28 pm
Quoting Leda Kat =^..^=
I gave you a 4. I liked it very much. One of the best entries in that category thus far. Every judge sees something different in an entry and goes to view an entry expecting something different. I gave a 2 where the other judges gave a 4 to another entry yesterday for that very reason.
They just must have been expecting something else from the category and felt you did not live up to their expectations. But remember, a 3 point moc is a very very good score. You should be proud of that.

Thank you Leda :) The comment wasnt actually pointed at you ironically, as you commented after it XD I probably should've waited till all of you guys rated it.

I am happy to get 3's, what I was just wondering is what the main problem was. The thing being as I wish to improve after every MOC, so that normally needs critisism. But yeah its not a bad score :)
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| March 5, 2011, 8:33 pm
Hi. I'm a very frustrated WFOL. I think my entries are great, but I only seem to get 3's or 4's. Now my mum says I'm perfect and I think the judges need to take a long hard look at themselves and realise that while all they have to do, is spend countless hours filing through 400 or so Mocs and scoring them, while conferencing with each other as how to properly run the show, (and rig it! Am I right guys?), we WFOL's have to spend precious minutes, sometimes even an hour building a Moc we know we can do better on, but upload regardless. I say it is the judges job to see the potential and give us a 5 no matter what! C'mon judges, I am perfect, we are all perfect, can't we just all get a perfect score of 5, everytime? What a wonderful world...

WFOL stands for Whining Fan of Lego by the way, hahahah, lol...
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| March 5, 2011, 8:50 pm
Quoting Parrington Levens
Now my mum says I'm perfect


You also have a face your mother can love.
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| March 5, 2011, 9:03 pm
So like...is it natural for some of the judges to have not rated some of my entries?...I understand you guys are busy but still...
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| March 5, 2011, 9:52 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 .
So like...is it natural for some of the judges to have not rated some of my entries?...I understand you guys are busy but still...

Patience is the key.
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| March 5, 2011, 9:55 pm
Quoting Parrington Levens
Hi. I'm a very frustrated WFOL. I think my entries are great, but I only seem to get 3's or 4's. Now my mum says I'm perfect and I think the judges need to take a long hard look at themselves and realise that while all they have to do, is spend countless hours filing through 400 or so Mocs and scoring them, while conferencing with each other as how to properly run the show, (and rig it! Am I right guys?), we WFOL's have to spend precious minutes, sometimes even an hour building a Moc we know we can do better on, but upload regardless. I say it is the judges job to see the potential and give us a 5 no matter what! C'mon judges, I am perfect, we are all perfect, can't we just all get a perfect score of 5, everytime? What a wonderful world...

WFOL stands for Whining Fan of Lego by the way, hahahah, lol...
We are not all perfect, and if the judges always gave fives, then what would be he point of even having 4's, 3's, 2's, and 1's? And then just whoever was the fastest builder, not the most talented would win. The judges judges on the build, not the potential great builder. Also, some people who have potential never achieve it. Now look at these two creations,
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/230319
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/208248
which is better?

If you don't like that some builders are more talented, or more experienced, then you're just going to have to live with it, 'cause that's the way things are. Though you're creations are quite good, that doesn't mean they can't be improved. Be content with a 3, its a good score!

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| March 5, 2011, 11:01 pm
The purpose of having 1-4 but only giving us 5s is to make us all feel good. It's the American dream. Chris is missing some tricks though. There need to be scores from 1-100 but only give out 100s. Marketing 101.
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| March 5, 2011, 11:14 pm
Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
Quoting Parrington Levens
Hi. I'm a very frustrated WFOL. I think my entries are great, but I only seem to get 3's or 4's. Now my mum says I'm perfect and I think the judges need to take a long hard look at themselves and realise that while all they have to do, is spend countless hours filing through 400 or so Mocs and scoring them, while conferencing with each other as how to properly run the show, (and rig it! Am I right guys?), we WFOL's have to spend precious minutes, sometimes even an hour building a Moc we know we can do better on, but upload regardless. I say it is the judges job to see the potential and give us a 5 no matter what! C'mon judges, I am perfect, we are all perfect, can't we just all get a perfect score of 5, everytime? What a wonderful world...

WFOL stands for Whining Fan of Lego by the way, hahahah, lol...
We are not all perfect, and if the judges always gave fives, then what would be he point of even having 4's, 3's, 2's, and 1's? And then just whoever was the fastest builder, not the most talented would win. The judges judges on the build, not the potential great builder. Also, some people who have potential never achieve it. Now look at these two creations,
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/230319
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/208248
which is better?

If you don't like that some builders are more talented, or more experienced, then you're just going to have to live with it, 'cause that's the way things are. Though you're creations are quite good, that doesn't mean they can't be improved. Be content with a 3, its a good score!


I see the error of my ways Bob. Thanx mate...
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| March 5, 2011, 11:14 pm
Quoting Tom Simon

You also have a face your mother can love.

hahaha, not even!
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| March 5, 2011, 11:15 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Lord Oblivion
Thank you Leda :) The comment wasnt actually pointed at you ironically, as you commented after it XD I probably should've waited till all of you guys rated it.

I am happy to get 3's, what I was just wondering is what the main problem was. The thing being as I wish to improve after every MOC, so that normally needs critisism. But yeah its not a bad score :)


See, that's the thing that I tried to point out before. A three is a GOOD score. It means you did a GOOD job. To get a four it has to be better than good and to get a five it has to be Parringtons. HAHAHAHA
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| March 5, 2011, 11:27 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Chris Phipson

See, that's the thing that I tried to point out before. A three is a GOOD score. It means you did a GOOD job. To get a four it has to be better than good and to get a five it has to be Parringtons. HAHAHAHA

Tanya, really, but will just stick with Parrington for now. XD
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| March 5, 2011, 11:30 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

See, that's the thing that I tried to point out before. A three is a GOOD score. It means you did a GOOD job. To get a four it has to be better than good and to get a five it has to be Parringtons. HAHAHAHA


hahahahahaha... That's right guys, I agree with Chris here I must say, 5's for me go without saying, but I do wish the rest of you the best of luck... lol...
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| March 6, 2011, 12:56 am
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Tanya, really, but will just stick with Parrington for now. XD

hehe, that's probably closer to it, though Tanya's a perfect 10 in my book, lol...
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| March 6, 2011, 12:57 am
Quoting Parrington Levens

I see the error of my ways Bob. Thanx mate...

You're welcome!
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| March 6, 2011, 10:16 pm
0h no! teh sko0lz startd 2day, naow i wil hav les taym 2 biuld!1!1! no0o0o0!1!1!
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| March 7, 2011, 1:31 pm
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