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If anyone has questions or can offer advice on this, the Xerox or Kleenex of photoediting software, here you go! Or if anyone has any other name brands to offer, that's okay too.
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| October 20, 2010, 9:23 pm
Quoting El Barto !
If anyone has questions or can offer advice on this, the Xerox or Kleenex of photoediting software, here you go! Or if anyone has any other name brands to offer, that's okay too.

This is what I try to use... I think it is "easyer" when you know every possibility... You have three very important touch then after if you find beautiful image on the net you can have something not bad...
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| October 21, 2010, 1:40 am
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Quoting christophe corthay
This is what I try to use... I think it is "easyer" when you know every possibility... You have three very important touch then after if you find beautiful image on the net you can have something not bad...

So how is that Vulcan ship going?
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| October 21, 2010, 1:55 pm
Quoting El Barto !
So how is that Vulcan ship going?


It's going on..... not almost finish but almost...
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| October 22, 2010, 2:14 am
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Does anyone knows how to create smoke?
I must create smoke in one of my creations... for example, the smoke from the jets engines, the launch of a missile...

Thanks

Eínon
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| October 22, 2010, 8:00 am
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Quoting christophe corthay

It's going on..... not almost finish but almost...

Great answer!
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| October 22, 2010, 8:39 am
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Quoting João Eínon
Does anyone knows how to create smoke?
I must create smoke in one of my creations... for example, the smoke from the jets engines, the launch of a missile...

Thanks

Eínon

One way would be to use the spray paint feature at 25% or 50% opacity and make your own smoke. Another would be to overlay a picture of smoke and erase it as needed to reveal the desired effect. I'm sure there are other ways to approach it, too.
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| October 22, 2010, 8:42 am
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Thanks El Barto!
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| October 22, 2010, 9:20 am
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Quoting João Eínon
Thanks El Barto!

No problemo, Dude! I have seen other mocs where they've used real smoke for 'atmosphere', like a mystery story or vampire's castle or whatever. But that's not what you're after. You know, I'd look at some Space Shuttle launch photos and see if you can manipulate something like that for a missile launch. You'd have to photograph your moc at the same angle as the shuttle, scale it, and erase. I've done a few of those total overlay erases to reveal the moc beneath. That's how I did the Caprica City waterfront. Good luck!
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| October 22, 2010, 10:53 am
Quoting El Barto !
No problemo, Dude! I have seen other mocs where they've used real smoke for 'atmosphere', like a mystery story or vampire's castle or whatever. But that's not what you're after. You know, I'd look at some Space Shuttle launch photos and see if you can manipulate something like that for a missile launch. You'd have to photograph your moc at the same angle as the shuttle, scale it, and erase. I've done a few of those total overlay erases to reveal the moc beneath. That's how I did the Caprica City waterfront. Good luck!



WOW !! That's cool but with wich program ???
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| October 22, 2010, 4:28 pm
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Quoting christophe corthay


WOW !! That's cool but with wich program ???

I use Gimp. I've used that total overlay technique a few times, like Caprica City, and a bunch of the shots in the Next Chapter are like that, either with the MOC in space over the asteroids or vice versa. It makes blending a great deal easier without the harsh lines of erasing, say one asteroid, and pasting it over the scene.
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| October 22, 2010, 8:05 pm
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Quoting João Eínon
Does anyone knows how to create smoke?
I must create smoke in one of my creations... for example, the smoke from the jets engines, the launch of a missile...

Thanks

Eínon

I was just looking over some of my stuff and found that I made a little smoke a while back in my Algae Planet scene. It's not much, but I think you can get the idea. There's a spray paint feature that has a random shape to it that works pretty well.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/202486

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| October 22, 2010, 9:48 pm
I have finally gotten Elements Version 8, I have loaded up two pictures from a tutorial, http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pselements/ss/replacedullsky.htm and even watched this video, http://video.about.com/graphicssoft/Replace-a-Dull-Sky.htm but I cant get past the dropping of the sky on top of the people. I change the order of the layers but then I can't get the layers to superimpose. A little help on this will get me on my way to digital backgrounds, cheers.
Josh
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| March 9, 2011, 6:47 pm
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Quoting I Scream Clone
I have finally gotten Elements Version 8, I have loaded up two pictures from a tutorial, http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pselements/ss/replacedullsky.htm and even watched this video, http://video.about.com/graphicssoft/Replace-a-Dull-Sky.htm but I cant get past the dropping of the sky on top of the people. I change the order of the layers but then I can't get the layers to superimpose. A little help on this will get me on my way to digital backgrounds, cheers.
Josh

There's bound to be a way to erase and change the opacity by percentage, but I'm not familiar with that program.
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| March 9, 2011, 6:56 pm
I can change opacity but it seems to apply the clouds to the whole picture, not just the old sky which was deleted. Going to try cut the selection rather than deleting to see if that works.
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| March 9, 2011, 7:06 pm
Quoting I Scream Clone
I can change opacity but it seems to apply the clouds to the whole picture, not just the old sky which was deleted. Going to try cut the selection rather than deleting to see if that works.

Also, if you haven't already, try using layers and placing your object on top of the effects. You could then place another layer of effects on top of the object and reduce the opacity/transparency to give a thin layer of effects over the model. Of course, since I have no clue what you're trying to do, I could be leading you down a primrose path to disaster here so save a copy of your photo first, so you have the basic photo to go back if needed.
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| March 9, 2011, 7:33 pm
Basically I want to have a new background on a picture, then once I learn how to do it I can make digital backgrounds for my creations.

Basically what El Barto and Parrington do already, adding a space scene below their creation. Sorry for the confusion.
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| March 9, 2011, 8:00 pm
I did some cutting on this creation and ended up inverting the selection, C+P onto the background. This is really rough and the use of the trans cockpit is problematic too.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5513196763_1fc9f200f0_z.jpg
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| March 9, 2011, 8:31 pm
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Quoting I Scream Clone
I did some cutting on this creation and ended up inverting the selection, C+P onto the background. This is really rough and the use of the trans cockpit is problematic too.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5513196763_1fc9f200f0_z.jpg

Okay, I see where you're going. You'll have to soften the lighting, and take a new pic with a white background. Dennis is on target with the layering approach. Another thing is to try and match the colors of the moc and background. You can tint the moc, in this case blue, to go with that nebula. But the pic you sent was tinted red from what it's sitting on, it seems. And don't forget scale. It's good to have a close up, but you might want to back off just a little. Cool moc, though, Dude!
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| March 9, 2011, 9:58 pm
I see. Yeah, the pen tool is the best for cutting out images. Takes a bit to get used to, but it's much more precise than just deleting bits willy-nilly.
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| March 9, 2011, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Dennis Price
I see. Yeah, the pen tool is the best for cutting out images. Takes a bit to get used to, but it's much more precise than just deleting bits willy-nilly.

You said 'willy'.
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| March 9, 2011, 10:03 pm
Ok, I think the original problem with layers was the renaming of the background before cutting not after. This makes it a layer rather than background and then layering works.

Here is my next attempt if you guys would like to run your eyes over it. I used a bit of Gaussian filter to smooth edges.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5017/5515319135_b6bc930459_b.jpg
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| March 10, 2011, 4:11 pm
Hey all, I actually have a question about layering and photo background software. I would like a good free software to be able to use to make a nice background for my pics such as my airplanes ect. Does anyone know if there are any out there?
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| May 3, 2011, 8:01 am
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Quoting Jake Savage
Hey all, I actually have a question about layering and photo background software. I would like a good free software to be able to use to make a nice background for my pics such as my airplanes ect. Does anyone know if there are any out there?

A bunch of us use Gimp, it's free online. Although there is a tutorial, I have brief step by step in the First Victim thread here.
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| May 3, 2011, 9:15 am
Quoting El Barto !
A bunch of us use Gimp, it's free online. Although there is a tutorial, I have brief step by step in the First Victim thread here.


Thanks, but I'm actually having a few problems with gimp, I get my model pathed but then when I cut it out it needs touch ups around the edge, yet I can't figure out how to do it.....any suggestions would be most welcome:)
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| May 4, 2011, 8:03 am
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Quoting Jake Savage

Thanks, but I'm actually having a few problems with gimp, I get my model pathed but then when I cut it out it needs touch ups around the edge, yet I can't figure out how to do it.....any suggestions would be most welcome:)

No luck with the eraser?
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| May 4, 2011, 9:26 am
Quoting El Barto !
No luck with the eraser?


Well I tried laying an image over the top and erasing it out like you do, and that works well and good, but when I just try to clean up edges so my cropped out pic will have a white background it acts like the eraser isn't even working. It's very strange...
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| May 4, 2011, 12:30 pm
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Quoting Jake Savage

Well I tried laying an image over the top and erasing it out like you do, and that works well and good, but when I just try to clean up edges so my cropped out pic will have a white background it acts like the eraser isn't even working. It's very strange...

I think I know the problem. Before you start erasing, you need to go over to the Layer drag down, click New From Visible, then go over to the little Layers box, right click the bottom square (background) and delete it. Then when you erase, you'll get a gray grid background instead of white. Then you can layer it, and even erase more there if you want, or erase at 50% to blend.
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| May 4, 2011, 12:55 pm
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Quoting Jake Savage

Well I tried laying an image over the top and erasing it out like you do, and that works well and good, but when I just try to clean up edges so my cropped out pic will have a white background it acts like the eraser isn't even working. It's very strange...

And you may need to watch what layer you're erasing, too. Any luck?
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| May 5, 2011, 9:08 am
Quoting El Barto !
And you may need to watch what layer you're erasing, too. Any luck?


Not so far, but I'll keep trying!
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| May 5, 2011, 2:08 pm
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Quoting Jake Savage

Not so far, but I'll keep trying!

Was what I wrote earlier of any help? Or is it something completely different?
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| May 5, 2011, 3:22 pm
Quoting El Barto !
Was what I wrote earlier of any help? Or is it something completely different?


It was helpful, just the entire program confuses me a bit, hah! I'll have to work with it more.
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| May 5, 2011, 4:14 pm
Quoting Dennis Price
I see. Yeah, the pen tool is the best for cutting out images. Takes a bit to get used to, but it's much more precise than just deleting bits willy-nilly.


Do you use Photoshop or GIMP? Wondering because even though I've had PSE for a few years, I just started with GIMP to make up for a few of the short-comings of PSE, and the pen tool is the only one that I'm rather unfamiliar with. Any tips for using it?
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| August 26, 2011, 11:18 pm
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Quoting Connor Simpson
Any tips for using it?

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/270112
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/270345
should help.
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| August 27, 2011, 10:05 pm


Thanks.
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| August 28, 2011, 12:26 am
Hello everyone, I'm new here! I was invited by (the awesome) Cody G, thanks man! I have started using photoshop ever since I erased backgrounds for a main picture of a MOC and I can also make posters. I still have much to learn in photoshop :)
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| September 28, 2011, 4:13 am
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Quoting Overlord Galaxus (Instant Noodles)
Hello everyone, I'm new here! I was invited by (the awesome) Cody G, thanks man! I have started using photoshop ever since I erased backgrounds for a main picture of a MOC and I can also make posters. I still have much to learn in photoshop :)

I'm personally a GIMP user, but since the programs are somewhat similar, I was wondering if you could tell me how you did the fire effect in Legofreak's comic. Is there some sort of tool that you use or is it all done by hand?
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| September 28, 2011, 4:16 pm
Quoting Cody G
I'm personally a GIMP user, but since the programs are somewhat similar, I was wondering if you could tell me how you did the fire effect in Legofreak's comic. Is there some sort of tool that you use or is it all done by hand?

It's by hand. First you draw a curved line, slap in inner and outer glow then 'smudge' tool the edges to give the FIYAH effect :)
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| September 29, 2011, 10:35 am
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Quoting Overlord Galaxus (Instant Noodles)
It's by hand. First you draw a curved line, slap in inner and outer glow then 'smudge' tool the edges to give the FIYAH effect :)

Wow, that's so neat for a hand drawn flame! Kudos to Noodles!
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| October 1, 2011, 9:56 pm
Just got done sifting through a bunch of mostly space related photoshop tutorials and these were some of the better ones. Easy to understand and relatively quick. Good stuff.
Planet -http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/tuts_arts/making_a_planet.html
Lasers -http://www.rnel.net/tutorial/Photoshop/7546
Asteroids - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7m9N18Kph4
Star Field - http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/tuts_arts/making_a_star_field.html



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| October 27, 2011, 2:49 am
How does one do glowing eyes, laser blasts, explosions, etc.? You know, the general effects.
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| December 12, 2011, 10:18 pm
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Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
How does one do glowing eyes, laser blasts, explosions, etc.? You know, the general effects.

Essentially, all of the above are generically grouped as light, and can be made in similar ways. First, draw a shape, such as fire, eyes, an energy ball, etc. Next, fill it with the desired color, but with some transparency. Shrink your selection, and repeat with a slightly lighter tint of the same color (or a slightly brighter color, depending on what you're trying to make. Fire, for example, would use orange then a more yellow color). Keep going like this until you're at or nearly at white. Sometimes I like to use the smudge tool to blend it all together a bit. Keep practicing!
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| December 13, 2011, 10:37 am
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I'm a big fan of the spray paint feature on Gimp, for Cylon eyes, that is.
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| December 13, 2011, 10:45 am
Quoting Cody G
Essentially, all of the above are generically grouped as light, and can be made in similar ways. First, draw a shape, such as fire, eyes, an energy ball, etc. Next, fill it with the desired color, but with some transparency. Shrink your selection, and repeat with a slightly lighter tint of the same color (or a slightly brighter color, depending on what you're trying to make. Fire, for example, would use orange then a more yellow color). Keep going like this until you're at or nearly at white. Sometimes I like to use the smudge tool to blend it all together a bit. Keep practicing!
Thanks Cody!

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| December 15, 2011, 7:37 pm
Quoting El Barto !
If anyone has questions or can offer advice on this, the Xerox or Kleenex of photoediting software, here you go! Or if anyone has any other name brands to offer, that's okay too.

can you give me links to these? I'm keen, but have no technical knowledge at all...
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| February 26, 2012, 4:33 pm
Quoting The Timinater !
can you give me links to these? I'm keen, but have no technical knowledge at all...

http://www.gimp.org/
This is one of the best free photo editing programs out there, I used this for some time but my dad purchased photoshop for a pretty penny and I use that now.
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| February 27, 2012, 11:18 am
I've got a question. I've been using GIMP to edit the background of my builds to give them a clean white background. I basically paste a white image unto the photos. Now, I noticed that other builders take their pictures on a white board and then adjust the brightness so that the white is even cleaner. I've just tried this and it looks great! Now, I'm wondering which method is better? What do you guys think?
-LB Senior
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| May 10, 2012, 4:01 pm
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Quoting Lego Builders
I've got a question. I've been using GIMP to edit the background of my builds to give them a clean white background. I basically paste a white image unto the photos. Now, I noticed that other builders take their pictures on a white board and then adjust the brightness so that the white is even cleaner. I've just tried this and it looks great! Now, I'm wondering which method is better? What do you guys think?
-LB Senior

I think most people do the latter, but if you don't have a little 'studio' to take your pics, then the former may be the best option. I really don't do any plain backgrounds myself, so I'm usually more concerned with the light, either from a window or overhead. Also what may be reflecting light onto my moc, from my wood dining room table or my blue/gray kitchen counter.
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| May 10, 2012, 4:32 pm
Can some of you guys critique this? http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/334637 It is one of my most heavily edited MOC, especially the last photo at the end. I used masking to "clone" more pieces. I really didn't want to do it, but I wasn't going to buy more pieces just to complete it. What do you think?(Hard-core purists: please look away. But then again, if you are a strict purist, you shouldn't be in this group right?)
Thanks, LB Senior
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| July 28, 2012, 1:54 pm
Aha! I've just posted a MOC with a missile flying in it. I wasn't very happy with what I did in Photoshop and was going to ask a question here. Then I read the posts near the start of this thread and saw the idea from El Barto ! about cutting and pasting the flames & smoke from a Shuttle launch. If only I'd come here first...
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| September 18, 2012, 3:31 pm
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Quoting David Roberts
Aha! I've just posted a MOC with a missile flying in it. I wasn't very happy with what I did in Photoshop and was going to ask a question here. Then I read the posts near the start of this thread and saw the idea from El Barto ! about cutting and pasting the flames & smoke from a Shuttle launch. If only I'd come here first...

Two other ideas to think about. One would be a much closer pic of RB's ship, then beyond it to the rear, a shot of the missile and some trailing smoke. http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=310128&id=/user_images/44801/1329612800m
Another would be a shot from the missile's perspective, with the back of the ship in the distance.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=269425&id=/user_images/44801/1305758130m
With these you get a lot more detail since something is in the immediate foreground in each shot. You've already got the pics edited, it's just a matter of getting zoomed in a bit. Remember, you don't need the entire ship in the pic. Offset it, then the focus is more on the missile action. Hope this was helpful!

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| September 18, 2012, 4:00 pm
Quoting El Barto !
Two other ideas to think about. One would be a much closer pic of RB's ship, then beyond it to the rear, a shot of the missile and some trailing smoke. http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=310128&id=/user_images/44801/1329612800m
Another would be a shot from the missile's perspective, with the back of the ship in the distance.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=269425&id=/user_images/44801/1305758130m
With these you get a lot more detail since something is in the immediate foreground in each shot. You've already got the pics edited, it's just a matter of getting zoomed in a bit. Remember, you don't need the entire ship in the pic. Offset it, then the focus is more on the missile action. Hope this was helpful!

Thanks for the ideas! The photos you've posted links to have a real feel of those pulp sci-fi cover by Chris Foss, Peter Elson et al from the 70s & 80s. I like the idea of different perspectives, especially the one from the missile's point of view. So now I can spend hours playing with the Lego and then more hours playing with Photoshop: excellent!
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| September 19, 2012, 5:32 am
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Exactly!
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| September 19, 2012, 7:40 am
Quoting El Barto !
Two other ideas to think about. One would be a much closer pic of RB's ship, then beyond it to the rear, a shot of the missile and some trailing smoke. http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=310128&id=/user_images/44801/1329612800m
Another would be a shot from the missile's perspective, with the back of the ship in the distance.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=269425&id=/user_images/44801/1305758130m
With these you get a lot more detail since something is in the immediate foreground in each shot. You've already got the pics edited, it's just a matter of getting zoomed in a bit. Remember, you don't need the entire ship in the pic. Offset it, then the focus is more on the missile action. Hope this was helpful!

I had to let the Red Baron live, so I've added a final photo to the the MOC. I think it's quite a good one for this group.

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=341289&id=/user_images/90763/1348054668m
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| September 19, 2012, 7:43 am
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Wicked! I like that cartoon action!
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| September 19, 2012, 9:04 am
Quoting El Barto !
Wicked! I like that cartoon action!

Here's a better version. This is the final one! Honest! I need to go back to finishing my Tax Return...

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=341289&id=/user_images/90763/1348063730m
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| September 19, 2012, 10:05 am
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Wicked! One more thing to distract you. There's no reason the missile needs to be to scale with the ship. You may have noticed that in my pic. Especially in the Classic Space genre, there are plenty of missile designs that would be cool to use. Just sayin'.
Crunch those numbers!
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| September 19, 2012, 10:24 am
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