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Lamentable Lego Group , What have you done?
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This is the 6th time i have tried to add the following conversation. What is wrong with Moc-pages???? As a result i refuse to type in the same thing time after time. Especially when it was of some substance. Anyway the point is The Lego Group are robbing us blind. Quality is not what it was 30 years ago. My mini-figs are still fine despite being in more than well played with vintage condition. The same can not be said for the one's that i have brought lately . It is insulting to charge for a premium product that prided itself on quality, and yet not deliver that expectation. If i wanted cheap chinese rubbish (s3 mini-figs are made in china) i would buy there lego rip off , AND only pay a fraction of the price. LIFT your game The Lego Group , or you risk losing a future generation of AFOL's and there children.
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| January 25, 2011, 9:40 pm
Hey Oggy, working on anything spesh at the moment? I'm just making revisions to some of my existing mocs. Apart from that I'm considering an entry for the latest contest.
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| January 25, 2011, 11:01 pm
Quoting Jonas James
Hey Oggy, working on anything spesh at the moment? I'm just making revisions to some of my existing mocs. Apart from that I'm considering an entry for the latest contest.

HI there Jonas, Yeah i kind of figured people would be missing my point. I wasn't having a go at this "group" , rather the "Lego Group" of companies. But for some reason moc-pages won't submit any of my conversation. I have tried 6 times so far.
My little rant was to do with the quality of Lego today and the price premium they demand. The gap is growing frustratingly further apart. It seems every brick you like to name "cracks". This never happened 30 years ago. The s3 mini-figs are made in China. How much of the rest of it is too??? If i wanted too buy Chinese rip off's , i would. And i would pay a fraction of what lego demand.
As for what i am up to, well i just had the power connected to the "Lego container" yesterday, so am finishing off the interior so the founding fathers of my "Empire" can lay the first "bricks". May the lord have mercy on the souls of the non-brickleavers. All hale King Oggy..
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| January 25, 2011, 11:20 pm
Yeah, I read about your container a while back and thought "what an excellent idea".

I can't say I've noticed a drop in quality of product though. Any particular pieces in mind from your experience? No doubts about the expense though, it certainly is a rich man's sport!
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| January 25, 2011, 11:51 pm
Yeah I noticed that the rapper minifigures hat was a differant plastic and the tennis player I got 3 weeks ago aleady has a crack in its torso and one other thing bring back the classic head !!!!
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| January 26, 2011, 2:40 am
Quoting Jonas James
Yeah, I read about your container a while back and thought "what an excellent idea".

I can't say I've noticed a drop in quality of product though. Any particular pieces in mind from your experience? No doubts about the expense though, it certainly is a rich man's sport!
The torso's crack at the back where the lugs on the legs go in. The back of there arms crack. Tiles, bricks, plates, cheese slopes all seem to suffer. I have noticed the cheese slopes on my B-double have cracks. These have never been placed on other bricks. Knowing what Lego was like 30 years ago , the product today is uncomparabley poorer in quality. Ooohh i also see one of my opening comments finally turned up at the top!!!

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| January 26, 2011, 3:27 am
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I have seen cracks on bricks but that is about it as far as pieces go. Usually the 1 x 1 bricks. I havent had a problem with any minifigs but I dont play with them. Usually get thrown in a bin until its time to add them with a building or vehicle.
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| January 26, 2011, 10:08 am
I noticed the same thing. In the Lego tractor-trailer set (3221), the pieces are all different colors for the chassis. It was a mix of blue, gray, and black plates and it looked awful. The same goes for the trailer axles. It looks like something I would have done when I was five. Rainbow Warriors from the Lego Company? Unacceptable. Prices went up and quality went down. Something needs to be done.
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| January 26, 2011, 12:02 pm
Quoting Brian Lyles
I have seen cracks on bricks but that is about it as far as pieces go. Usually the 1 x 1 bricks. I havent had a problem with any minifigs but I dont play with them. Usually get thrown in a bin until its time to add them with a building or vehicle.
Not every brick or mini-fig does Brian.But it is a lot more common, and i also think you have missed the point. Lego is supposed to be played with by kids. Whilst we Adults may be careful in how we handle the bricks, remember that it is a building toy ,whose main sales pitch has always been creativity and the ability to make different things using the same bricks. Therefor in my mind the product should be able to stand up to the toughest tests , not being handled only once and still crack.

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| January 26, 2011, 12:17 pm
I have been out of my Dark Ages for a few months now and agree with the cracking issues. Mainly occurs on the cheese slopes, tiles and 1x2 grates. Maybe we never had these issues growing up cause these parts did not exist. Either way, it is not good enough by Lego to use cheap materials.
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| January 26, 2011, 9:11 pm
was just re-attaching heads and legs to my youngest's mini-figs, and found a new one. A dirty great crack in the back of a head. Like i said earlier, this stuff is meant to be played with by kids and should be able to handle fair wear and tear.
I thought the same thing , that maybe it was just the new range of weird bricks. But a head and torso's ,c'mon you have no control over quality if you outsource your product.
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| January 26, 2011, 9:53 pm
It is indeed ridiculous. I bought some parts just to do some tests on, and I found out that Lego is using a softer, more brittle plastic, that can't hold up to crush tests. The older 1x1 studs held up fine. The new ones? Not so much. I'm afraid to buy any of the collectible minifigs because of the cracking issues and such.
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| January 26, 2011, 10:03 pm
Quoting Oggy the 2nd
was just re-attaching heads and legs to my youngest's mini-figs, and found a new one. A dirty great crack in the back of a head. Like i said earlier, this stuff is meant to be played with by kids and should be able to handle fair wear and tear.
I thought the same thing , that maybe it was just the new range of weird bricks. But a head and torso's ,c'mon you have no control over quality if you outsource your product.


We don't have any of the collectable mini-fig's, but if they are cracking, that is lame. My kids are still quite young, so I am still just trying to train them not to pull bricks apart with their teeth!

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| January 26, 2011, 10:05 pm
My kids are only young so we do not have any collectible mini-figs. I am still trying to train them not to use their teeth to get the bricks apart. It is frustrating to use a tile and see a crack in it, turn it around to try and hide the blemish only to see a crack in the other end too.
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| January 26, 2011, 10:38 pm
Quoting Elk Guard
My kids are only young so we do not have any collectible mini-figs. I am still trying to train them not to use their teeth to get the bricks apart. It is frustrating to use a tile and see a crack in it, turn it around to try and hide the blemish only to see a crack in the other end too.
Get yourself a brickseperator Elk. I thort they were pretty lame , until i used one. Certainly better than a jeweller's screwdriver or a knife! We havn't had a lot of collectable mini-figs (I only had my enlightenment in June), it is the run of the mill figs that come with sets that i have found the worst so far.

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| January 26, 2011, 11:44 pm
One way to look at his problem may be environmental issues in Europe may have caused the plastic used to be less durable. LEGO uses ABS, but maybe the quality of the beads that LEGO is forced to use has declined as a result of something that LEGO can't control. Or the new, brighter colors that are used may be of a slightly different formula than the old colors. Anyway, just a thought.
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| January 27, 2011, 2:01 am
Quoting Eric and Lawson B
One way to look at his problem may be environmental issues in Europe may have caused the plastic used to be less durable. LEGO uses ABS, but maybe the quality of the beads that LEGO is forced to use has declined as a result of something that LEGO can't control. Or the new, brighter colors that are used may be of a slightly different formula than the old colors. Anyway, just a thought.

Eric, i would hope that the Lego Group if aware of quality issues would act. Surely if changes to the plastic formular was forced on them by onerous EU regulations , they would have followed up to make sure that these types of issues didn't happen. Personally i am not so sure. Having gone through financial difficulties a few years ago, maybe one of there briefs to get back in the black was to use a cheaper form of plastic that they hoped would do the job. What ever the reason for it, i hope they return to the formular that earned them there reputation.
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| January 27, 2011, 3:53 am
Quoting Oggy the 2nd
Get yourself a brickseperator Elk. I thort they were pretty lame , until i used one. Certainly better than a jeweller's screwdriver or a knife! We havn't had a lot of collectable mini-figs (I only had my enlightenment in June), it is the run of the mill figs that come with sets that i have found the worst so far.


We have a seperator, but only use it occasionally. I usually get tasked with pulling everything apart while the helper monkey's....i mean the kids....get to sort the colours.

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| January 27, 2011, 9:28 am
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