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Well, we have something like this on Flickr, so I though I'd make one here. That, and Mech Tech rhymes.

Talk about your construction and building techniques of your mechs. Visit the Flickr thread http://www.flickr.com/groups/930783@N21/discuss/72157608554670631/
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| December 31, 2008, 6:11 pm
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I have one tip: the pieces you want to stay away from at all costs are the brick slopes - using them chunkifies your mech.
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| December 31, 2008, 6:24 pm
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Quoting Will Thomas
I have one tip: the pieces you want to stay away from at all costs are the brick slopes - using them chunkifies your mech.


That's true, I use curved wedges and slopes, not just your run of the mill slopes~LL

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| December 31, 2008, 6:28 pm
I cannot access flickr, so I can't check your link. But, as far as techniques go, I often use a joint type that consists of an L shaped plate, with a 1x1 brick on one end of the L, a 1x1 brick with a technic peg hole on the other end, another L plate on top of that all and a part visible here: http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/483
to hold the arm on. I find this joint to be very agile and easy to build, taking very little space on a side torso.

Edit: I haven't noticed anything wrong with brick slopes; my Zenith uses them in quantity and looks rather sleek, in my opinion.
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| December 31, 2008, 6:31 pm
Quoting Will Thomas
I have one tip: the pieces you want to stay away from at all costs are the brick slopes - using them chunkifies your mech.
not entirely true . i've used them to pretty good efect in 1 or 2 of mine. they might just work best on larger mechs, I don't know.

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| December 31, 2008, 9:46 pm
Quoting Knoll grey
not entirely true . i've used them to pretty good efect in 1 or 2 of mine. they might just work best on larger mechs, I don't know.


Nyet, comrade. A lot of things I have seen and made are quite small and use the aforementioned slopes quite well; May I point one to my Zenith series and the torso assemblies of such?

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| January 1, 2009, 2:24 am
Quoting Areetsa C

Nyet, comrade. A lot of things I have seen and made are quite small and use the aforementioned slopes quite well; May I point one to my Zenith series and the torso assemblies of such?
i'll have to check those out. i mostly use them for covering stuff up that a square or rectangular piece would draw attention to

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| January 1, 2009, 7:54 pm
Quoting Knoll grey
I'll have to check those out. I mostly use them for covering stuff up that a square or rectangular piece would draw attention to.


Are we referring to the 1x1 'cheese slopes' or the full sized bricks with diagonal sides?

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| January 1, 2009, 8:42 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Are we referring to the 1x1 'cheese slopes' or the full sized bricks with diagonal sides?

i personally don't have any of the really small slopes and i wish i did, but i was talking about the full sized slopes bricks
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| January 1, 2009, 10:50 pm
The city sets have a lot of those 1x1 slopes, mostly in red, yellow and blue. If you live in America they should be fairly cheap, if not, welcome to my world, where lego costs twice as much as it does in over in Obamaland.
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| January 4, 2009, 12:12 am
price isn't as much a factor as me not buying legos in like, 10 years or so, so i just man it out and use what i've always had.
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| January 4, 2009, 7:41 pm
Don'tcha mean Sith mind control? O_O
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| January 7, 2009, 4:17 pm
Well, I haven't heard of anyone wanting to revolt and kick him out, so I'm assuming you folk like him. See, the nuttier factions tend to make more stink when they lose and more noise when the win, so all we hear down south from oz is 'obamaobamaobamaYESchangechangechange'. Why don't you guys just vote for Putin if you want a commie?
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| January 7, 2009, 5:37 pm
Actually Obama's a socialist. Heading towards commie and maybe fascist.
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| January 7, 2009, 5:39 pm
Quoting Xiazeran .

That must stink.. and not all americans are Obama-obsessed. I wouldn't know the exact percentage, maybe 50-60 something that haven't lost their minds to Obama's "mind trick".

???? math check 50-60???
regardless. if he can shoot force lightning, then USA becoming another galactic empire is alright with me
P.S what would his sith name be?
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| January 7, 2009, 7:12 pm
Quoting Elite Marshal Katana
Actually Obama's a socialist. Heading towards commie and maybe fascist.


Socialists, commies, all the same. They all take your stuff and give it to their cronies.

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| January 7, 2009, 8:00 pm
Amen, brother.
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| January 7, 2009, 8:47 pm
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I not sure what this has to do with Mechs, but I'll add: He's our Pres. ,and whether or not we like him, we need to respect the position.~LL
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| January 7, 2009, 9:42 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Elite Marshal Katana
Actually Obama's a socialist. Heading towards commie and maybe fascist.


Socialists, commies, all the same. They all take your stuff and give it to their cronies.


Socialism takes everyone's wealth/materials/work, lumps it together then redistributes it among everyone according to their needs: if family #1 has, say, 6 children and #2 has only 3, the materials given for child care to family #1 would be twice that of the child care materials given to family #2. Think of it like the USSR (or the book 1984), each given only what they need to perform for the common good. Obama isn't quite that bad, I hope.

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| January 8, 2009, 12:06 am
It has everything to do with mechs; after you folk try to revolt, he'll transform into iObamabot and herald the age of the machine.

Also, the USSR was not communist; the men on top had everything and the peasants had nil.
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| January 8, 2009, 12:07 am
They tried to be though Stalin and the rest abused their power. Ultimately communism kills itself, the goal is to remove the need for a central gov't, everyone working for the collective good, but with no gov't there is no state/country just a bunch of people living in close proximity working to survive, there is no center of power.
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| January 8, 2009, 12:13 am
The americans were no better. They tried to kill australian troops. Story at:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/war/news/article.cfm?c_id=359&objectid=10520276

Perhaps after reading it you can understand why I don't like you people very much.
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| January 8, 2009, 12:55 am
Sorry if I offended, I wasn't trying to, or trying to start an argument or anything like that I was just sharing my opinion.
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| January 8, 2009, 1:04 am
I am not attacking you; I am snapping at americans in general for the criminal acts planned by some of your own people.
I just stumbled across that story, and I am very, VERY ANGRY that ANYONE could even THINK of such deeds, let alone plan to carry them out.
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| January 8, 2009, 1:06 am
Well, humans are humans, every culture does that to each other (even to themselves) to some degree, no matter how big or small.
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| January 8, 2009, 1:10 am
If they had had the guts to poison their own people, the domestic and international outcry would have been tremendous. Acts like that qualify as war crimes when carried out under pretence of conflict, and I think shooting the responsible scientists would have been a good idea.
Although I am an Imperialist, so that sort of thing comes naturally to me.
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| January 8, 2009, 2:36 am
whatever, yhis is all a litttttle bit off topic. don't you think? i thought i'd end the 3 day silence. :P
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| January 10, 2009, 8:57 pm
My trick: Well, obviously it seems quite hard to make a frame...but it takes a while to come with an idea. I always make a sketch (draw LEGO parts) with some de-construction and begin to select (random) pieces for frame. After building the frame, I remove random pieces to fit 'em with the same color of pieces and the rest is piece of cake :D!
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| January 11, 2009, 6:48 pm
Obama is a socialist? Since when? Lrn 2 politics.

Obama is authoritarian/economically conservative, although not nearly as far right as McCain. He is portrayed as a socialist from the conservative camp. The only real contender from the libertarian/economically liberal camp was Dennis Kucinich who dropped out of the presidential race early on.

It's all good though, kids. When Obama reigns over the world he will have his Ministry of Mecha to crush any thoughtcrime :)
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| January 19, 2009, 4:35 pm
Quoting Knoll grey
whatever, yhis is all a litttttle bit off topic. don't you think? i thought i'd end the 3 day silence. :P

trippy, i'm replying to my own response!
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| January 19, 2009, 9:01 pm
Quoting Dali Zheng
authoritarian


Obama is not authoritarian; put ME in charge and I'll show you authoritarian: I'll invade china, afgana- afgeniston- that place next to iraq, iran and countless other countries I haven't heard of before.

Yes, I know, lern 2 geography. So what? As long as I get to kick off the new years with a BANG, so to speak, and as long as I get to start the REAL 'War to end all wars', I'll be happy.

You know, I really don't know what I am doing with this; methinks I had better stop before I end up tripping over meself like I did with the fed thing.
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| January 20, 2009, 9:37 pm
on the political spectrum obama is more authoritarian as opposed to libertarian. lern 2 politics pls
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| January 20, 2009, 10:00 pm
This is nothing to do with Mech Tech, so please STICK to the THEME!
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| January 21, 2009, 11:30 am
This is a general discussion topic now. THREAD HIJACK, MATE!

Very well, let us change the subject. The moot for this debate is now the type of pie that tastes best: I believe blackberry pie to be ideal, as it is both delicious and it's usually home-made so there are no icky mouse heads stuck in it. 'Tis also fairly clean to eat, if you're careful and know what to do.
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| January 21, 2009, 3:42 pm
pumpkin pie, fools
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| January 22, 2009, 10:23 am
Apple or Strawberry PIE :D :P!
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| January 22, 2009, 1:53 pm
FOOLS ALL OF YOU!!! FOOOOOLLLLLSSSSS!!!!!
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| January 22, 2009, 7:07 pm
Knoll Gray, did you went high?
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| January 23, 2009, 2:26 pm
I'd say so.

Grey, I wish to ask a question of thee: Art thou or were thee in ye old intoxicated state caused by overimbibing or chemical abuse? If so, couldst thou standst to lendeth me some in pill or powder form?
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| January 23, 2009, 3:01 pm
Yup. The bit at the end that seems to have been chopped off says: Operator of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory, in case you wanted to know.
I sent a letter to Sean asking if it was too long to keep. I do not desire to be banned over a bit of mockery.

I plan to get rid of it in a few days, as any posts I make like this will have the new title chock-full of spurious titles of rank that I awarded to myself attached.
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| January 23, 2009, 3:21 pm
Had to dispose of it. Sean did not like the thought of mockery going on in his kiddies site. Perhaps someone should point him towards Kelso and Phippy...
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| January 23, 2009, 6:40 pm
Quoting Areetsa, Elite Arc Super Sturm Kommando, Comrade Commander, Cloned Presidential Emperor SuperKing, Lord and Admiral of the Five-Hundredth-and-Forty-Second Starfleet of the Imperial Zenexabas Armed Forces, Duke of Edmondburg, Operator of Willy Wonka's Choc
I'd say so.

Grey, I wish to ask a question of thee: Art thou or were thee in ye old intoxicated state caused by overimbibing or chemical abuse? If so, couldst thou standst to lendeth me some in pill or powder form?

Quite...
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| January 23, 2009, 10:30 pm
um.. getting back to the topic related to the title of this conversation, i was wondering if any of y'all could give me a few pointers on arm joints.. thanks.
-Jamaal
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| January 27, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Jamaal Blanchette
um.. getting back to the topic related to the title of this conversation, i was wondering if any of y'all could give me a few pointers on arm joints.. thanks.
-Jamaal


I usually just use click joints for the elbows, for the shoulders check out my Combat Armor Skeleton MOC. I agree with Xiazeran by the way, mincemeat pie rocks!
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| January 27, 2009, 7:31 pm
Quoting Will Thomas
I have one tip: the pieces you want to stay away from at all costs are the brick slopes - using them chunkifies your mech.


I use brick slopes all the time, then again I like my mechs being a bit more on the chunky/clunky side, kind of like a tank or Battletech stuff.
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| January 27, 2009, 7:36 pm
Quoting Jamaal Blanchette
um.. getting back to the topic related to the title of this conversation, i was wondering if any of y'all could give me a few pointers on arm joints.. thanks.
-Jamaal




I don't often give some tips, but here are some: If you're using Exo-Force joints, I suggest you to make the less possible bulky (if you're not making a heavy mecha), and for the legs, it's up to you. Now, if these tips aren't suitable for you, I suggest you to grab a pencil and a paper and draw more-or-less a mecha you wish to draw, and so get the pieces of what you want to (at least) make. Sometimes, I use this when I'm having problems making a mecha, which is very useful. Hope this tips can help you. Keep Brickin'

-LEGO 19-
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| January 27, 2009, 7:38 pm
I reccomend plate hinges for small mecha.

Now, what y'all think you're doin' in mah pai thred?
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| January 27, 2009, 9:08 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
I reccomend plate hinges for small mecha.

Now, what y'all think you're doin' in mah pai thred?


Talking about pie and LEGO of course :P
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| January 27, 2009, 11:12 pm
thanks for the tips guys, the reason i asked is because im in the middle of finishing off my recent mech, and only have the arms to do.
ill be sure to post it when its done.

Thanks again.
-Jamaal
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| January 28, 2009, 8:33 am
i agree with Areetsa C, plate hinges are my absolute,best,favorite,i-could-not-live-without-because-i-use-it-in-almost-all-of-my-more-advanced-stuff-like-mecha-and-hardsuits-or-basically-anything-that-uses-a-plate-hinge!,piece....whew!
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| January 31, 2009, 9:06 pm
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I like using wedge plate for smaller Mechs. ~LL
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| February 7, 2009, 3:25 pm
A quick comment: didja know that Western barrel pieces make wonderful gun barrels?

My new super-heavy strider project is to have three of those per arm weapon mount.

Now, I need help: does anyone have a good technic leg design for large mecha, preferably able to support a great deal of weight?

Bricks get heavy fast, and this project is going to use a lot of them.
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| February 7, 2009, 7:36 pm
i know what you mean, AT-7's arms are almost too heavy for the old joints to hold them. posing it for the pictures was a nightmare, they kept popping off so i eventually just took them off to adjust the position. on leg design My symphony call assault mech's legs can hold way more weight than what is equipped to the mech, i hope the pictures have a side view leg shot.
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| February 12, 2009, 10:06 am
No, I looked at it.

The thing I'm working on is probably going to be at least as tall as my Deimos, and most likely around twice the weight. Those are minimal estimates. The true size may be larger or slightly smaller.
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| February 12, 2009, 3:17 pm
sorry about lack of side pictures. i wrote down the plan to build it again, so i could just make the leg and post pics of that?
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| February 13, 2009, 9:29 am
Look, the thing I refer to is already immensly heavy for lego; it is the size of a small building and I only have the torso and one arm-actually two, but I have not converted the second to the new joints- completed.


Chances are, the legs you refer to would splinter and collapse under the weight.

I will probably end up using worm joints anyway, but I have no idea how to use them properly.
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| February 13, 2009, 2:25 pm
i am insulted! i actually took the time to remake them and test the weight, it can hold about 4 pounds.
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| February 27, 2009, 10:15 pm
Bigger is not necessarily better. I, for one, am not impressed by scale. I find technic click joints the best for large scale mechs such as the ones found in the AT-ST set. Plate hinges are too weak. I prefer pneumatic T pieces, they're the best all-around joints.
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| March 8, 2009, 11:34 pm
Well, I've been doing some thinking and believe that this one will use a technic frame with plates covering the gaps; the guns aren't that long and neither is the cockpit, but I estimate that a couple of- wassit called? ATPT? The tripod lego starwars walker thing: it uses clicky joints that I intend to obtain.
I intend to use one per knee, and a dog-leg design with the the legs fused to the hips with a worm joint: won't be agile, but it will work.

The lower legs and feet are the problem, however.


Anyhow, I do not believe this remake will be too heavy, but... I haven't started yet.
I have the beginnings of the right arm with it's triple autocannon, but everything else is unthought of.

Does anyone have a good, agile, load-bearing shoulder joint?
The arms are probably going to be rather heavy, especially the left one.
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| March 9, 2009, 12:06 am
The technic joint I'm talking about are these two pieces:
http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=86&itemID=39336
http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=85&itemID=39335
These are very strong in my opinion. 4 sets of these joints come with the AT-ST set. If you absolutely must make an extremely heavy weight-bearing joint, use a worm gear. The downside is that a worm gear won't let you move the joint easily.
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| March 10, 2009, 6:47 pm
i wish i had a couple sets of those, i would make so many more mecha
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| March 11, 2009, 10:10 am
Quoting Dali Zheng
The technic joint I'm talking about are these two pieces:
http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=86&itemID=39336
http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorID=85&itemID=39335
These are very strong in my opinion. 4 sets of these joints come with the AT-ST set. If you absolutely must make an extremely heavy weight-bearing joint, use a worm gear. The downside is that a worm gear won't let you move the joint easily.




Check also the EXO-FORCE Set: Mobile Defense Tank (it has 4 of those). Pretty useful for lagre and bulky mechs.
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| March 11, 2009, 12:33 pm
i don't like the exoforce personally, it isn't the actual sets so much as the minifigs, they are just so LAAAAME! its like a super corny DBZ rip off, their names definitely don't help their case at all either! i'm sorry if anyone likes the minifigs!
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| March 17, 2009, 10:32 am
The early figs aren't too bad; take away the hair and give them a proper helmet and they look fine.


Zheng: yes, those were the parts I'm planning to use. For the knee joints; I only have two complete joints, so I'm going to use them on the smallish joint that actually needs them.

I think I'll use click joints, or maybe worms; or both, depending on how heavy the various arms end up.
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| March 17, 2009, 5:44 pm
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I tend to use technic joints for arms and stuff, but they make weak legs. For legs, I go with exo-force click joints. ~LL
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| May 17, 2009, 9:43 pm
Quoting Will Thomas
I have one tip: the pieces you want to stay away from at all costs are the brick slopes - using them chunkifies your mech.


I agree with you that they make your Mech chunky, but some Mechs look good chunky so you could use them to 'add some meat to your Mech!'
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| May 27, 2009, 5:57 am
i couldn't live without slopes!
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| May 28, 2009, 8:59 am
yeeees, it is awesome!
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| June 2, 2009, 8:54 pm
quite... <--My awesome catch phrase! people don't notice too often, but i say this all over the place.
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| June 2, 2009, 9:02 pm
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