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Round Two, Group C
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 Group admin 
All right, Group C moblings, break out the switchblades and brass knuckles, because once again it's time to rumble!

Alex Fojtik
Blake Baer
Joshua Christenson
Jøsh !
Cade
Heath 'kik36' Flor
K l a y
Brendan Dore

Your category comes from the fevered imagination of Dennis Price, and it is...
"One Red Brick"
(What this means is, your entry will have exactly ONE red brick -- no more, no less -- strategically and intentionally used. If he so chooses, Mr. Price may unleash the full awesome force of his mighty Admin powers and peremptorily disqualify entries that contain a number of red bricks other than one. You've been warned.)


Post a link to your entry in this thread by 11:59 pm, June 6th, or be disqualified.

Once that deadline passes, post your scores for your groupmates' entries in this thread by 11:59 pm, June 9th, or be disqualified.


This round, one builder with the lowest score in the group will be cut.
To even up the groups next round, other low scorers may be cut as well.


GO!

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| May 27, 2010, 3:10 pm
I can't tell if I'm excited, or scared.
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| May 27, 2010, 4:17 pm
And don't try to get cute and have a picture of a single red brick either. I will slam the DQ hammer down on that one as well.
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| May 27, 2010, 8:58 pm
I'm presuming any brick in the red family will suffice, as I may need to cater to my fetish for transparent pieces (aka trans red).

Let me know otherwise.
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| May 27, 2010, 9:48 pm
Quoting Dennis Price
And don't try to get cute and have a picture of a single red brick either. I will slam the DQ hammer down on that one as well.


You didn't say anything about using Red plates or tiles though. :P
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| May 27, 2010, 9:51 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

You didn't say anything about using Red plates or tiles though. :P


Whoops, I took it as any red piece. Dennis, can we get clarification. Brick meaning brick or brick meaning LEGO element?

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| May 27, 2010, 10:00 pm
Quoting Alex Fojtik

Whoops, I took it as any red piece. Dennis, can we get clarification. Brick meaning brick or brick meaning LEGO element?


Rules say we can't ask for clarification. I think I will be a good boy this time around and only use one red element though LMAO
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| May 27, 2010, 10:07 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor

Rules say we can't ask for clarification. I think I will be a good boy this time around and only use one red element though LMAO


Rules again! Okay, moblings, ya'll are the judges so I'll just say I'm using a red element and will not penalized bending of the rules. Good luck!

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| May 27, 2010, 10:25 pm
 Group admin 
This is definitely one of those categories where the Group C mob would be well-advised to let each other know where they stand.

Does "red" mean just plain old red, or can it mean trans-red, dark red, or sand red? Would you be apt to mark Alex down if he used trans-red as his "One Red Brick"?

Is "brick" used here in the generic sense of any Lego element, or does it mean red plates, tiles, and whatever are OK? Would using a bunch of red slopes and minifigs be within the letter of the law but violate the spirit?

This is what you have to decide. You guys are the judges. Letting your groupmates know how you plan to interpret the category would be a good political move, rather than throwing low scores around for rulebending with no prior warning.
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| May 27, 2010, 11:34 pm
Quoting Shannon Young
This is what you have to decide. You guys are the judges. Letting your groupmates know how you plan to interpret the category would be a good political move, rather than throwing low scores around for rulebending with no prior warning.


Well I think you kinda threw that out the window when you threatened Dennis' wrath. That makes it out to be up to Dennis' interpretation instead of ours. Now if you were to call off your death dog, then I agree that we as a group could come to our own interpretation freely. ;)

As it stands I believe it means one red (basic red color only) LEGO element, as using other red pieces would distract the attention away from your center red piece. And that my friends is how I will personally judge your builds..

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| May 28, 2010, 12:10 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor
That makes it out to be up to Dennis' interpretation instead of ours.

Not at all. As long as you can truthfully argue that your entry contains exactly one red brick -- however you choose to define that -- you won't be disqualified. But if you have to channel your inner lawyer and argue semantics to persuade others how your entry fits the category, I would guess you're probably going to get low scores anyway.

How you as judges decide to treat your groupmates' inevitable pushing of the envelope is completely up to you.
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| May 28, 2010, 1:44 am
Quoting Shannon Young

... channel your inner lawyer and argue semantics ...

yep that is me. I think I will personally try to mess up the rules just to argue.

Anyhow I always hate when people call a random Red element a Brick. I personally believe that a red Brick is just that. Any size of 1x?, 2x? 4x? and 8x?. They are all bricks. However if somebody decided to be cheeky and to like maybe 3 plates that would be an automatic low score from me. Hey Dennis congrats on a super frickin hard category!
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| May 28, 2010, 9:57 am
Quoting Shannon Young
... channel your inner lawyer and argue semantics...

Yep that's me in a nutshell.

Anyhow the category is "One Red BRICK" naturally means a brick not another element. I hate when people combine the two into one big happy family. Uh-uh. One red element is far easier than one red brick. Go ahead and try to use the element but you will end up getting a lower score from me now matter how good the MOC itself was.
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| May 28, 2010, 10:38 am
Hmmm. Now I'm torn between assimilating to the mob's wishes and my own ideas. What a devious contest!

Blake, I respectfully disagree. I think one red element would be acceptable and will judge my fellow moblings by this standard.
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| May 28, 2010, 1:00 pm
OK, for me any red element will count as a red brick. Just thought I should add that in this discussion.
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| May 28, 2010, 1:25 pm
 Group admin 
Since the category is titled One Red BRICK and not One Red PIECE, I think the intent is clear. But if you guys want to go tapdancing in a minefield, that's up to you.
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| May 28, 2010, 2:15 pm
Quoting Blake Baer
Yep that's me in a nutshell.

Anyhow the category is "One Red BRICK" naturally means a brick not another element. I hate when people combine the two into one big happy family. Uh-uh. One red element is far easier than one red brick. Go ahead and try to use the element but you will end up getting a lower score from me now matter how good the MOC itself was.


WOW didn't realize this was a hotly debated topic. I guess there really is a difference.

There are 8 different "Brick" categories on Bricklink that I think sufficiently fulfill the definition.

http://www.bricklink.com/browseTree.asp?itemType=P
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| May 28, 2010, 2:50 pm
I suppose I'll take them. Though I still prefer all entries from the main title "Brick". Good call though. And just let me find one of you who uses a red element outside those groups...
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| May 28, 2010, 3:08 pm
I finished! http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/205674
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| June 2, 2010, 6:30 pm
Boom! Here is my humble entry. I had a little better foothold this time due to the fact that one of my soccer leagues ended. Whew. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/205989
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| June 4, 2010, 11:55 am
I am under a time crunch, and have a LOT to get done this weekend. Therefore I humbly submit my entry a couple days early. I hope that you all enjoy it!!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/206137
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| June 5, 2010, 2:42 am
Well, here it is: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/206577
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| June 6, 2010, 8:25 pm
Unearthing the Element:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/206582
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| June 6, 2010, 9:17 pm
 Group admin 
Disqualified for not building:
Joshua Christenson
Brendan Dore



Everyone else get to judging!
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| June 7, 2010, 1:22 am
Ok, let's start judging:
Klay: you get 3 points from me. The build isn't bad but the lava could be done a bit mor interesting.
Blake Baer: The building is great and the photography too. Makes 5 points
Heath Flor: The idea is great and was realised quite well, but I dislike the ears. 4 points!
Cade: I'm not sure about this. Is the brick red because all the blood? I don't know. The minifig action is good. 2 and 1/2 points
Alex Fojtik: Your Moc is the work of a genius. This perfect work gets 5 points!
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| June 7, 2010, 3:11 am
My Gosh I hate Mondays!!!
Anyhow... Here are the scores as I see fit. Surprisingly all of you used elements in the "Brick" category. Well more points to you.
In order of post.
. KLAY .-(3)I didn't get the entire body bag idea but the build wasn't too terribly bad.
HEATH-(4)I love the idea of Rudolph! The red nose was what really took me.
JOSH-(4)Sushi?! Really? Yuk! On another hand that was such a solid build and presentation...
CADE-(3)I will score you the same as KLAY. Not sure I like the random red Brick without a purpose.
ALEX-(5)I don't like to use decimals but it would have been a 4.5. However I want to make it easy on the Young. Great Idea!!! Love the drips and the bionicle hand. so I went ahead with a five. Good stuff!

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| June 7, 2010, 11:03 am
Ok, here we go:

Klay: Score of (3). I like the idea and the presentation is clean, but red doesn't seem like the wisest color choice for hiding a body. I also would not have known it was a body bag unless you told me.

Blake Baer: Score of (4.5). It would seem our thinking is not so different. I respect any build that tries to put layers of meaning into it. While the hand turned out nicely, I wanted to see more build with the black bricks somehow.

Heath'kik36'Flor: Score of (3.5). Its cute. Its fun. It has a red brick.

Josh !: Score of (4). I appreciate the fact that the red brick is well disguised as something else, something I was trying to figure out and ultimately failed at.

Cade.: Score of (2.5). Nothing wrong with the build and the presentation is pretty nice, but it doesn't take much to replace a grey brick in a diorama with a red one.

Good luck, mob-mates!
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| June 7, 2010, 1:02 pm
Blake Baer: Score of 4. While the hand and story is great, it's just that it's a pile of bricks without them. But I liked it, so 4.
Heath Flor: Score of 4.5. Fantastic representation of Rudolph, as far as a Cubedude can be. The only problem is not your fault. It's the eyes. I wish TLG made them in brown.
Jøsh !: Score of 5. Excellent, and great idea!
Cade: Wait, what? Sorry, dude, but score of 2.
Alex Fojtik: Score of 5. Just. Pure. Awesome.
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| June 7, 2010, 5:39 pm
Klay- (2.5) Sorry man, I have no idea where you see the red brick to be a body bag. And unfortunately I think it's a megablock at that. ><

Blake- (5) The hand reaching for the red brick in the sea of darkness is beautiful. Great job!

Josh!- (5) Using the red brick as the center piece of your sushi build was excellent! Not to mention the great use of the minifig bases.

Cade- (2) The diorama itself looks pretty good....the use of the red brick, not so much.

Alex- (5) HOLY MOLY!!! What an amazing build! The effects of the black SNOT dripping off of the red brick are astounding!!! Very well done my friend!!
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| June 8, 2010, 4:03 pm
Quoting K l a y
Blake Baer: Score of 4. While the hand and story is great, it's just that it's a pile of bricks without them.

Wow really? "KLAY while your MOC was great it is nothing without it?" really? That IS MY MOC!!!
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| June 8, 2010, 9:04 pm
Klay: A body bag? Sorry, but I don't see it. 2.5 points

Blake: I loved it. The name, the feel of the MOC, the hand, everything. 5 points.

Josh: I don't like sushi, but this was a genius idea! 5 points.

Alex: Uh... Woah. If I could go over 5 I would. 5+ points.
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| June 9, 2010, 10:29 pm
Cade you forgot to judge mine.
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| June 9, 2010, 10:37 pm
 Group admin 
Hmm...

Cade, I'm going to dock half a point from your total score this round for incomplete judging.

Heath, I'll just average yours up without him.
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| June 10, 2010, 12:51 am
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