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Questions Regarding Rules 2.1
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Post relevant questions here.
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| February 11, 2010, 9:08 pm
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Quoting 000 000

As far as re-posting mocs go, would i.e. using a previously posted minifig with gun get me D.Q.'ed, even if it is only part of a larger diorama or something like that?


You may use previously posted minifigs in subsequent and multiple MOCs.
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| February 11, 2010, 9:33 pm
Would the disqualified person be informed of the reason why he was, or do they just get kicked?
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| February 11, 2010, 9:37 pm
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Quoting 000 000
Would the disqualified person be informed of the reason why he was, or do they just get kicked?


The judges would contact the individual first, gather details, make a consensus, inform the individual, and then the entire field of players.

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| February 11, 2010, 9:46 pm
Lets say, there was a certain tree design that i've used in one of my mocs before. Could I use it again?
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| February 11, 2010, 9:52 pm
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Quoting Brian peczyna
Lets say, there was a certain tree design that i've used in one of my mocs before. Could I use it again?


In my experience, I've never seen two trees exactly the same in the 'real world'. You may keep the design (or spirit of design), but the build must be new each time.
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| February 11, 2010, 10:23 pm
Do we post our Moc's here in this group, or in our own private groups?
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| February 13, 2010, 11:26 am
Hello!

I had a question in regards to photos. Are custom backgrounds allowed, such as adding a space scene to the background of a photo, or are only white backgrounds allowed.

Thanks,

Philip
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| February 13, 2010, 1:06 pm
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Quoting Mech Man
Do we post our Moc's here in this group, or in our own private groups?


I'm going to be nice and suggest you read the Rules 2.1 post.

Quoting Philip Stark
Are custom backgrounds allowed, such as adding a space scene to the background of a photo, or are only white backgrounds allowed.


The way you present your creation is up to you, different judges have different preferences. So, yes, custom backgrounds are allowed.


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| February 13, 2010, 1:35 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta

I'm going to be nice and suggest you read the Rules 2.1 post.

Quoting Philip Stark
Are custom backgrounds allowed, such as adding a space scene to the background of a photo, or are only white backgrounds allowed.


The way you present your creation is up to you, different judges have different preferences. So, yes, custom backgrounds are allowed.



Ok, I found it, I'm sorry for being a pest.
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| February 13, 2010, 1:44 pm
Ok, thanks for the quick answer. :-)
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| February 13, 2010, 3:13 pm
Can I include the sigfig of someone else who isn't on my team in a moc?
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| February 13, 2010, 4:48 pm
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Quoting Brick Freak
Can I include the sigfig of someone else who isn't on my team in a moc?


Yes, as long as it doesn't violate any other previously stated rules, and it must be in good spirited fun.
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| February 13, 2010, 4:59 pm
Ok. Thank you.
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| February 13, 2010, 5:04 pm
I've just been informed by a friend that my first entry, in the Steampunk category, has the wrong title format. I'd change it, but Dave has already given his rating on it.

So, do I change it to a more appropriate name or just leave it like it is?
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| February 13, 2010, 8:23 pm
I've got a question about the rating system. Once all the judges have rated an entry, are the ratings added up for a score out of a possible 20? Or do you take an average from the four ratings?
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| February 13, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Quoting jason corlett
I've got a question about the rating system. Once all the judges have rated an entry, are the ratings added up for a score out of a possible 20? Or do you take an average from the four ratings?


We'll add it up for a score out of 20. But either way, it would be the same score.

Quoting Areetsa C
I've just been informed by a friend that my first entry, in the Steampunk category, has the wrong title format. I'd change it, but Dave has already given his rating on it.

So, do I change it to a more appropriate name or just leave it like it is?


The name is fine, as long as it's posted in the MOCathalon group and your team's group AND the team name and group name are the first line of the 'Introduction' OR of the post.

So, you don't need to change anything.

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| February 13, 2010, 11:31 pm
Ah, good to know. Thanks for answering.
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| February 14, 2010, 1:43 am
Having just stumbled onto this group (and it looks really fun!), am I open to joining/recruitment into a team or am I too late?

If I am, I'll wait until the next big MOC-contest...
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| February 14, 2010, 8:03 am
What about previously established characters in the story category? For instance, what if I wanted to do a special backstory comic of Glomshire Knights (it would have all new builds) or a new Chip Philson adventure? I'm pretty sure that fits in the rules, so let me get to my other question: Are the judges going to set up a thread that keeps running team totals so we can see how we're stacking up against the competition or do we have to wait until the contest is over? I think a centralized scoreboard everyone can see is good idea, but you're the judges . . .
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| February 14, 2010, 9:33 am
i only own bionicle is that fine?
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| February 14, 2010, 10:45 am
I have a question regarding the "Short Story/Song/Poem" category. If I want to build a MOC relating to a song, do I have to write the song, or can I use a popular song? Ex. Could I build something along the lines of what Chris Phipson built for the song, "Enter Sandman"?
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| February 14, 2010, 10:57 am
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Quoting Gringat the Repugnant
Having just stumbled onto this group (and it looks really fun!), am I open to joining/recruitment into a team or am I too late?

If I am, I'll wait until the next big MOC-contest...


It's a little too late, sorry.

Quoting The Abyss -"do you know who i am? cuz i don`t!"
i only own bionicle is that fine?


I only answer questions of players that are on teams participating in the MOCathalon, is that fine?

Quoting Dennis Price
What about previously established characters in the story category? For instance, what if I wanted to do a special backstory comic of Glomshire Knights (it would have all new builds) or a new Chip Philson adventure? I'm pretty sure that fits in the rules, so let me get to my other question: Are the judges going to set up a thread that keeps running team totals so we can see how we're stacking up against the competition or do we have to wait until the contest is over? I think a centralized scoreboard everyone can see is good idea, but you're the judges . . .


Previously used minifigs are like sigfigs, they're public domain; you may use them willy-nilly.

I have volunteered to keep a spread-sheet of the scoring. I'm guessing once a week updates (sorry if that's not frequent enough, but we base our schedule on Goldman's willingness to actually show up and vote)
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| February 14, 2010, 10:59 am
Not minifigs -- characters. Anyone can make a a Gil or Ewart, but I'm the only one who can use them. Chip Philson is another story; ONLY members of the Chip Philson Fan Club have permission to use the character Heather Braaten and I created. However, I fully intend to use said characters during this contest. Yeah, a weekly update of the scoring will work for me. Thanks Dave!
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| February 14, 2010, 11:07 am
Quoting Dave Kaleta

Yes, as long as it doesn't violate any other previously stated rules, and it must be in good spirited fun.


For Clone Wars, would it be acceptable to use one custom clone as a commander, and the rest normal?

Of course I understand this is a story, so that is one reason a Commander is important. Especially with my idea... mwahaha...
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| February 14, 2010, 12:08 pm
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Quoting Flare .

For Clone Wars, would it be acceptable to use one custom clone as a commander, and the rest normal?

Of course I understand this is a story, so that is one reason a Commander is important. Especially with my idea... mwahaha...


Get you Sharpie out and Sharpie-up those clones!

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| February 14, 2010, 12:50 pm
I have posted a MOC. Unbeknownst to me, comments were disabled on it. Therefore, the judges have not commented and scored it. May I delete it without being penalized?



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| February 14, 2010, 12:50 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta

Get you Sharpie out and Sharpie-up those clones!



Hahaha, you are too kind, my good sir.
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| February 14, 2010, 12:51 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta

once a week updates


It'll be like when I was a kid and everybody in the neighborhood would gather around the ONE TV set in town to watch Ed Sullivan on Sunday night!
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| February 14, 2010, 12:58 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta

Get you Sharpie out and Sharpie-up those clones!


I have 'nother question: When will the judges be judging next? I'm just curious. Because my first entry will be out soon, hehe. :)
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| February 14, 2010, 1:25 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta
Post relevant questions here.


i have yet another question. For "short story/poem/song", could I use like a theme song from a TV show, and build around that? Or do I have to write the story/poem/song from scratch?
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| February 14, 2010, 5:49 pm
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Quoting Ryan T.
Not the update though. In fact, I actually tore some of it apart for some extra pieces.


Here, since you're not getting what the others have told you...

You STARTED the build before the games. If you post ANY portion of the build then you WILL be DQ'd. Nothing that was put together before the games started can be used in ANY way, shape or form.
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| February 14, 2010, 5:51 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
For Monochrome, does the minifig head need to be black?


Monochrome means "one color" right? If the rest of the build is black... I'll let you fill in the rest of the sentence here.
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| February 14, 2010, 5:52 pm
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Quoting Flare .

Or do I have to write the story/poem/song from scratch?


You do not have to write it yourself if you're using a song. But I'd do the writing myself for the other two... but I'm not a judge so I'm just hazarding a guess here.
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| February 14, 2010, 5:54 pm
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Quoting Flare .

OK.... BTW, do you have any clue around when Dave was born?

You might read this as inappropriate and rude, and if you are you are misreading it...


Yes I do have an idea of when he was born. Am I going to tell that information about someone else out here on the internet without their permission? No... No I'm not.

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| February 14, 2010, 6:02 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Yes I do have an idea of when he was born. Am I going to tell that information about someone else out here on the internet without their permission? No... No I'm not.


I didn't think so. Ah, I hope he watched this show as a kid...

I'll just have to go with my guess, that every AFOL has watched this show once in his life...
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| February 14, 2010, 6:05 pm
For the 100 peice thing could it be a vig? Just wondering.
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| February 17, 2010, 9:05 am
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Quoting Masked Builder
For the 100 peice thing could it be a vig? Just wondering.

It can be anything. just remember to include a picture of all the disassebled pieces.
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| February 17, 2010, 9:22 am
Okay thanks.
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| February 17, 2010, 11:36 am
I'm not sure were to put this Question, or something you judges might call a "Stupid Complaint", so I posted it here. What I don't get is that the judges are giving the AFOL's MOCs Fours and Fives, getting their teams 17 to 20 points each MOC. I do know that AFOL's don't add as many MOCs as the Y/TFOLs, but they still get those 20 points each MOC, when a Y/TFOL MOC might get a ten or a thirteen points. Some, no, MOST teams don't even have a AFOL, like my team, and Because of this I don't get why AFOL's are praised so much for their creations, because if a Y/TFOL made a creation to scale of One of Chris' MOCs, like His Martini Maker, it would get 2 to 3 points instead of what they SHOULD get, which would be 4 to 5 points from each judge. So in short, I really don't understand why the AFOLs aren't judged harder.
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| February 19, 2010, 2:03 pm
Quoting Legoz R Us
I'm not sure were to put this Question, or something you judges might call a "Stupid Complaint", so I posted it here. What I don't get is that the judges are giving the AFOL's MOCs Fours and Fives, getting their teams 17 to 20 points each MOC. I do know that AFOL's don't add as many MOCs as the Y/TFOLs, but they still get those 20 points each MOC, when a Y/TFOL MOC might get a ten or a thirteen points. Some, no, MOST teams don't even have a AFOL, like my team, and Because of this I don't get why AFOL's are praised so much for their creations, because if a Y/TFOL made a creation to scale of One of Chris' MOCs, like His Martini Maker, it would get 2 to 3 points instead of what they SHOULD get, which would be 4 to 5 points from each judge. So in short, I really don't understand why the AFOLs aren't judged harder.

While I am not a judge, I am an AFOL and one of the 20 point score receivers, so I will take the time to comment. First, I will say that the judging has not been perfect, but this is the first time such a competition has been put on and I believe they are trying very hard at a job that entails a lot of work and no reward for them. As for the high scores, my AFOL teammate has posted two MOCs for a total of 16 points and I've seen others receive the same kind of low scores. They know that AFOLs tend to have more to work with and take that in to account. Also, I think that the diverse opinions of the judges lends to a checks and balances. Again, it's not perfect because human opinion is involved. Lastly, I think you might be mistaking some of the TFOLs for AFOLs, as their are some that are doing quite well, such as Jason Corlett and Sven Junga. Just remember, in a contest there is only one winner and a bunch of non-winners. Try not to take it personally, but instead use it as an opportunity to study the skilled builders and improve your own technique. I am proud of my score and worked hard to get it, changing things many times before I posted it, but that doesn't mean that I expect the same with my next creation. I would love it if my team won, but I'm not pinning any hopes on it, just having fun building. I hope that helps you a little, we just want everyone to have fun and get to know other builders, not have hurt feelings. I hope you have fun with the rest of the competition and I look forward to seeing what you bring.~H
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| February 19, 2010, 4:03 pm
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Quoting Legoz R Us
I'm not sure were to put this Question, or something you judges might call a "StXXid Complaint", so I posted it here. What I don't get is that the judges are giving the AFOL's MOCs Fours and Fives, getting their teams 17 to 20 points each MOC. I do know that AFOL's don't add as many MOCs as the Y/TFOLs, but they still get those 20 points each MOC, when a Y/TFOL MOC might get a ten or a thirteen points. Some, no, MOST teams don't even have a AFOL, like my team, and Because of this I don't get why AFOL's are praised so much for their creations, because if a Y/TFOL made a creation to scale of One of Chris' MOCs, like His Martini Maker, it would get 2 to 3 points instead of what they SHOULD get, which would be 4 to 5 points from each judge. So in short, I really don't understand why the AFOLs aren't judged harder.

Ok, I had a hard time making this pass because of the "stXXid" word, but it's OK since you said it yourself, so you're not offending anybody.
You did well to address this issue, because it allows me to clarify this: we don't rate "by name" (I myself don't even check the builder's name before judging, unless my eye slips or I recognize the style).
Since there hae been some mishaps recently, I need to point out that judgements can't be only based on the build's quality: since we're only humans, no matter how hard we try, our opinions will be influenced by the context in which we happen to judge each time.
At one point we may be tired and miss some details, or the batch of posts we're judging is of higher/lower overall quality, or we don't like the subject you chose... there are many variables that may cause, from day to day, better MOCs to be judged lower than below-average ones. And obviously the opposite.
So beyond all the judges' efforts to be objective, it's also a matter of luck on your part. There's nothing to do about it.
As a last clarification, I'd like to ask you to check the "20 points Club".
You will see that there are only 3 members so far, and one of them is barely over 18. See if you can do better than them. I can't :(
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| February 19, 2010, 4:56 pm
For the sake of bigger and better pictures, could I post a link to say, a folder on Brickshelf that contains my entry?
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| February 20, 2010, 3:50 pm
George lawlor has written that he can't build for our team. Can we simply search a new member or isn't that allowed?
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| February 20, 2010, 4:08 pm
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