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Questions Regarding Updated Rules
 Group admin 
Read all the rules first, then do it again, then read them out loud. THEN and only then, post your questions here.
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| February 5, 2010, 11:05 pm
Do all the categories become known on February 14th?
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| February 6, 2010, 10:36 am
I am somewhat confused by the category paragraph. When you say "Each team will try to build in as many of the categories as they can" and then further say "The teams must decide who is building in which category", does that mean that players do not need to fill every category, but the team does? That's how it seems to me, but I want to be sure. (I did say once that I could be slow at times)
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| February 6, 2010, 11:07 am
Could you provide a example of how you want mocs that are to be entered titled? I just want to make sure I got it right....
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| February 6, 2010, 11:28 am
It appears now that each of us must build a different category initially. The confusing part --- do we have to wait for all members to submit before we can start on a different category? or can a fast-building member go on to the next creation?
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| February 6, 2010, 12:22 pm
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Quoting Commander Calle (a.k.a. Tyler Halliwell) .
Do all the categories become known on February 14th?


All 30 categories will be announced Friday, February 12th (the day before the games start).

Quoting robert ball
I am somewhat confused by the category paragraph. When you say "Each team will try to build in as many of the categories as they can" and then further say "The teams must decide who is building in which category", does that mean that players do not need to fill every category, but the team does? That's how it seems to me, but I want to be sure. (I did say once that I could be slow at times)


Players do NOT need to build in every category. The entire team must build in all 30 categories before you can build in a category a second time.

Quoting 000 000
Could you provide a example of how you want mocs that are to be entered titled? I just want to make sure I got it right....


We'll give you a little flexibility to title your creation, BUT the 'introduction' must say the team name and the category built in. Example:
"Kamp Kaleta's Komandos in the category of Batman".

Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
It appears now that each of us must build a different category initially. The confusing part --- do we have to wait for all members to submit before we can start on a different category? or can a fast-building member go on to the next creation?


You can speed ahead as much as you like. But, your team may not duplicate any of the 30 categories UNTIL all 30 have been covered.



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| February 6, 2010, 1:00 pm
Is there a cut-off date for people joining this Moc-Athalon?
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| February 6, 2010, 8:36 pm
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Quoting Brick Freak
Is there a cut-off date for people joining this Moc-Athalon?


You must have a complete team of five formed by Friday the 12th.
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| February 6, 2010, 8:44 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta

You must have a complete team of five formed by Friday the 12th.

So when the 12th rolls around, is this group going to be changed in to a private group that only members can see?

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| February 6, 2010, 8:49 pm
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Quoting Brick Freak
So when the 12th rolls around, is this group going to be changed in to a private group that only members can see?


No, anyone can see it, just no more players can sign up for the games.

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| February 6, 2010, 8:50 pm
Do we add our creations to this group, or to our own team group? Also, are the judges that joined our personal groups the only judge for us or do judges alternate. i am sorry if this was already answered. if it was, I didn't see it.
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| February 6, 2010, 9:13 pm
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Quoting Commander Calle (a.k.a. Tyler Halliwell) .
Do we add our creations to this group, or to our own team group? Also, are the judges that joined our personal groups the only judge for us or do judges alternate. i am sorry if this was already answered. if it was, I didn't see it.


Add your creation to the MOCathalon group and your team's group. It will make it easier to tally up the final results.

Make sure you invite all five judges to your team group. They should all join as they will all be voting on each creation.

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| February 6, 2010, 9:24 pm
Could you guys mabey post the catagories two days before the contest starts? Becuase teams need to disscus who's building what, and sometimes it takes a while for everyone to reply. I just don't think one day is enough to figure everything out.
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| February 6, 2010, 10:22 pm
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Quoting Brian peczyna
Could you guys mabey post the catagories two days before the contest starts? Becuase teams need to disscus who's building what, and sometimes it takes a while for everyone to reply. I just don't think one day is enough to figure everything out.


Aw, but that's the whole fun of the game! We feel your pain, but you do know the day the categories will be announced, so you'll have to coordinate. We will announce them early in the day to give you a little extra time to scheme.


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| February 6, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta
Read all the rules first, then do it again, then read them out loud. THEN and only then, post your questions here.


You said:
"There will be 30 different categories in which to build. Each TEAM will try to build in as many of the categories as they can. If, and only if, you cycle (and post) in every category, your TEAM may attempt the categories a second time (and possibly, though highly unlikely, more). THE LIST OF CATEGORIES WILL BE ANOUNCED FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 12TH (until then, speculate as you will). Important note: your team must coordinate who is building what. No duplication within a category is allowed. The teams must decide WHO is building in WHICH category. This is why team work is essential to the competition."

Earlier, Chris said that it doesn't matter what categories your teammates are building from. Now you say something different? Am I misunderstanding you?
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| February 8, 2010, 12:34 pm
Quoting Dave Kaleta
Read all the rules first, then do it again, then read them out loud. THEN and only then, post your questions here.

I read it to myself. Read it aloud to myself and read it out loud to my brother. And I still don't understand something.

Is the contest about posting quickly? Or building well? Will we be given opponents like in the MOCplympics? Unless I get these rules down - I'm not going to be sticking around. (How can one possible compete in a contest he doesn't understand?)
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| February 8, 2010, 2:22 pm
Quoting Caleb Cutlass-Crocodile Blanchet
I read it to myself. Read it aloud to myself and read it out loud to my brother. And I still don't understand something.

Is the contest about posting quickly? Or building well? Will we be given opponents like in the MOCplympics? Unless I get these rules down - I'm not going to be sticking around. (How can one possible compete in a contest he doesn't understand?)



@Blaze....Yes, they changed that portion of the rules. Now your team must actually work as a team. I think it makes much more sense that way.

@Caleb.....how you build, what you build, what speed you build really depends on your team strategy. The game is about teamwork. You will not be going up against anyone directly. It's a team effort. The team with the most amount of points at the end of the game wins. You post in the categories that your team decides are best for you and the judges will score you strictly on your entry.


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| February 8, 2010, 3:17 pm
Quoting Heath 'kik36' Flor
@Caleb.....how you build, what you build, what speed you build really depends on your team strategy. The game is about teamwork. You will not be going up against anyone directly. It's a team effort. The team with the most amount of points at the end of the game wins. You post in the categories that your team decides are best for you and the judges will score you strictly on your entry.

Ah - totally makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up... now to find a team that wants me...
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| February 8, 2010, 3:56 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Flare .

You said:
"There will be 30 different categories in which to build. Each TEAM will try to build in as many of the categories as they can. If, and only if, you cycle (and post) in every category, your TEAM may attempt the categories a second time (and possibly, though highly unlikely, more). THE LIST OF CATEGORIES WILL BE ANOUNCED FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 12TH (until then, speculate as you will). Important note: your team must coordinate who is building what. No duplication within a category is allowed. The teams must decide WHO is building in WHICH category. This is why team work is essential to the competition."

Earlier, Chris said that it doesn't matter what categories your teammates are building from. Now you say something different? Am I misunderstanding you?


There will be thirty categories. All thirty categories must have mocs posted to them before the team can start the cycle again.

You cannot build the same category as a team mate.

As a team, you must get through all the categories.

Eg:
suppose there are two team members: "A" and "B". and there are five categories "1", "2", "3", "4", and "5".

As a team they decide that:
"A" will build in categories 1 and 4.
"B" will build in categories 2, 3, and 5.

They have now completed all the categories, and decide to cycle through them again:
"A" builds in 2 and 5
"B" builds in 1, 3, and tries for 4, but the game ends before he/she finishes.

As a team they have entered nine mocs, but in each cycle, there are no duplicate categories.

Hope this helps.

Lee
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| February 9, 2010, 9:43 pm
Quoting Lee Jones

There will be thirty categories. All thirty categories must have mocs posted to them before the team can start the cycle again.

You cannot build the same category as a team mate.

As a team, you must get through all the categories.

Eg:
suppose there are two team members: "A" and "B". and there are five categories "1", "2", "3", "4", and "5".

As a team they decide that:
"A" will build in categories 1 and 4.
"B" will build in categories 2, 3, and 5.

They have now completed all the categories, and decide to cycle through them again:
"A" builds in 2 and 5
"B" builds in 1, 3, and tries for 4, but the game ends before he/she finishes.

As a team they have entered nine mocs, but in each cycle, there are no duplicate categories.

Hope this helps.

Lee


That makes complete sense now, thanks for clearing it up for me!
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| February 10, 2010, 9:13 am
Quoting Lee Jones

There will be thirty categories. All thirty categories must have mocs posted to them before the team can start the cycle again.

You cannot build the same category as a team mate.

As a team, you must get through all the categories.

Eg:
suppose there are two team members: "A" and "B". and there are five categories "1", "2", "3", "4", and "5".

As a team they decide that:
"A" will build in categories 1 and 4.
"B" will build in categories 2, 3, and 5.

They have now completed all the categories, and decide to cycle through them again:
"A" builds in 2 and 5
"B" builds in 1, 3, and tries for 4, but the game ends before he/she finishes.

As a team they have entered nine mocs, but in each cycle, there are no duplicate categories.

Hope this helps.

Lee

Ok, this confused me a little. I see a duplication there: In the first cycle A builds 1 and 4, B builds 2,3 and 5. In the next cycle A builds 2 and 5, B 1, 3 and 4. This means B has build 3 for two times! I've read this part for 1000 times, either it's wrong there or I'm totally going crazy.
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| February 10, 2010, 11:45 am
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Quoting Louis K.
Ok, this confused me a little. I've read this part for 1000 times, either it's wrong there or I'm totally going crazy.


Yeah, I think it's a typo.

It should read: "In the first cycle A builds 1 and 4, B builds 2,3 and 5. In the next cycle A builds 2, 3 and 5, B 1 and 4."

Let's just make this clear. You (as an individual) can NEVER build the same thing twice. AND you must wait until your entire team has built all 30 categories before any of you can repeat a category someone else has built in.
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| February 10, 2010, 11:51 am
Quoting Dave Kaleta

Yeah, I think it's a typo.

It should read: "In the first cycle A builds 1 and 4, B builds 2,3 and 5. In the next cycle A builds 2, 3 and 5, B 1 and 4."

Let's just make this clear. You (as an individual) can NEVER build the same thing twice. AND you must wait until your entire team has built all 30 categories before any of you can repeat a category someone else has built in.

Thanks! Now it's clear to me :)
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| February 10, 2010, 11:54 am
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Quoting Dave Kaleta

Yeah, I think it's a typo.

It should read: "In the first cycle A builds 1 and 4, B builds 2,3 and 5. In the next cycle A builds 2, 3 and 5, B 1 and 4."

Let's just make this clear. You (as an individual) can NEVER build the same thing twice. AND you must wait until your entire team has built all 30 categories before any of you can repeat a category someone else has built in.


Actually, it wasn't an error. I don't see where in the rules that it states that a player can't build in a category a second time if it is in the second (or third cycle).

That is, if the whole team has completed all the categories once, a builder should be able to build in the same category a second time - it is a whole new cycle after all.

If this restriction is, indeed, the intention of the rules, then we had better clarify this.

I don't mind either way, it is just not how I interpreted the rules.

Lee
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| February 10, 2010, 1:57 pm
Picture Size Question: Do you have any preferences with picture sizes? Should they all be large? Do you prefer default sizes?
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| February 10, 2010, 6:55 pm
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I'm going to assume this is the question to which I got the email about. Can an individual build in the same category more than once after his team has cycled through the list?

Although I am a mere mortal in these games now and the final decision is in the very capable hands of the judges, there was never a restriction on this before. As far as I'm concerened (and the judges CAN overrule this if they see fit) why NOT put your best (for example) castle builder in castle twice? It would be a sound team decision that would garner you more points.

Again, just my two cents. The final decision is that of the judges.
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| February 10, 2010, 7:07 pm
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Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Picture Size Question: Do you have any preferences with picture sizes? Should they all be large? Do you prefer default sizes?


The Larger picture options are nicer to view as it can save a bunch of time clicking on all of them it it isn't necessary.

That being said, I am not going to dock points for thumbnail pics, but it always a good idea to keep the judges happy ;-)

Lee
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| February 11, 2010, 1:33 am
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Quoting Chris Phipson
I'm going to assume this is the question to which I got the email about. Can an individual build in the same category more than once after his team has cycled through the list?

Although I am a mere mortal in these games now and the final decision is in the very capable hands of the judges, there was never a restriction on this before. As far as I'm concerened (and the judges CAN overrule this if they see fit) why NOT put your best (for example) castle builder in castle twice? It would be a sound team decision that would garner you more points.

Again, just my two cents. The final decision is that of the judges.


Sorry mere mortal, you have been trumped by a nickle.

The rules have been changed, and we will post a new set of revised rules to save people the headache of trying to read through the various posts to make sense of this game.

It now stands in official black and white: a builder may only build in any given category once. It does not matter what cycle that the team is in.

For example:
If Chris builds in the category "Purple Monkey Onion" in the first cycle (assuming his team can even get to a second cycle). Then he may not build in the "Purple Monkey Onion" category again in any following cycles. Another team-mate would have to build in it in the second cycle.

Hope that helps.

Lee

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| February 11, 2010, 1:43 am
Quoting Lee Jones

The Larger picture options are nicer to view as it can save a bunch of time clicking on all of them it it isn't necessary.

That being said, I am not going to dock points for thumbnail pics, but it always a good idea to keep the judges happy ;-)

Lee


Though I personally find that larger pictures take like forever to load... so...

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| February 11, 2010, 11:44 am
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Quoting Lee Jones
For example:
If Chris builds in the category "Purple Monkey Onion" in the first cycle


And let me just say that I for one can't WAIT to build a Purple Monkey Onion!


Quoting Lee Jones
(assuming his team can even get to a second cycle).


Assuming we make it half way through the first cycle... but then again, we all know what assuming does...

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| February 11, 2010, 4:31 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson
Quoting Lee Jones
For example:
If Chris builds in the category "Purple Monkey Onion" in the first cycle


And let me just say that I for one can't WAIT to build a Purple Monkey Onion!


MMM... your getting me hungry...
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| February 11, 2010, 4:41 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

And let me just say that I for one can't WAIT to build a Purple Monkey Onion!




I thought you WERE a Pur- never mind.
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| February 11, 2010, 4:52 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Chris Phipson
Quoting Lee Jones
For example:
If Chris builds in the category "Purple Monkey Onion" in the first cycle


And let me just say that I for one can't WAIT to build a Purple Monkey Onion!


Quoting Lee Jones
(assuming his team can even get to a second cycle).


Assuming we make it half way through the first cycle... but then again, we all know what assuming does...

Especially for you - it gets you feeling like your favourite body part ;-)

Lee
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| February 11, 2010, 4:57 pm
Question: Since people like to see poor Mister Bones maimed and destroyed so much, will there be a Kill Mister Bones category? Or maybe a "I love sheep" category.....I'm just spitballin' here.
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| February 11, 2010, 4:58 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
Question: Since people like to see poor Mister Bones maimed and destroyed so much, will there be a Kill Mister Bones category? Or maybe a "I love sheep" category.....I'm just spitballin' here.

A minifig torture category.... Genius. I know a way to shish-ka-bob them on a lightsaber.
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| February 11, 2010, 5:05 pm
Quoting Ryan T.
A minifig torture category.... Genius. I know a way to shish-ka-bob them on a lightsaber.

HAHAHA, I was joking, but you may be on to something!
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| February 11, 2010, 5:06 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
HAHAHA, I was joking, but you may be on to something!

I'm always on to something. Whether it be my bed, the pole I put my tongue on, or your crime.
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| February 11, 2010, 5:10 pm
Quoting Ryan T.
I'm always on to something. Whether it be my bed, the pole I put my tongue on, or your crime.

CRIME?? How did you find out abou....I mean, um....what crime?
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| February 11, 2010, 5:11 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
CRIME?? How did you find out abou....I mean, um....what crime?


http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=8969&topicid=44164#comment-449929

Read that.
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| February 11, 2010, 5:14 pm

Who? It's a private group.
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| February 11, 2010, 5:17 pm

Um, what is it? The group is private
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| February 11, 2010, 5:17 pm
Quoting Mister Bones
Um, what is it? The group is private


Its private but anyone can join, so just join to read it. Or don't. It will probably just be a waste your time, but hey, is anything here not?
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| February 11, 2010, 5:24 pm
In the rules it said: Your team must finish all thirty catagories. Does that mean that if a team fails to complete all the catagories, they automaticaly lose?
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| February 11, 2010, 8:35 pm
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Quoting Brian peczyna
In the rules it said: Your team must finish all thirty catagories. Does that mean that if a team fails to complete all the catagories, they automaticaly lose?


Must finish all 30 BEFORE you can start repeating categories. Maybe your team will only do 19 total; that's okay.
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| February 11, 2010, 9:00 pm
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